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Sporadic posted:I posted this theory before but try to think of it this way. Vince give (who he considers) his good friend a cushiony color commentator gig with the idea that it's a job for life ala Gorilla Monsoon. And how does Randy repay him for that kindness? BY SPITTING HIS GODDAMN FACE AND GOING OVER TO THE COMPETITION! I thought Randy left, among other talent, was because at the time the WWF was suffering huge losses and PR issues because of wrestler deaths and steroid scandals? I remember reading that Vince was cutting pay for managers and commentators by 30-50% during this time.
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On that note, why does Vince have such a hate on for JJ? Aside from the obvious, was there a particular offense?
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gypsyshred posted:On that note, why does Vince have such a hate on for JJ? Aside from the obvious, was there a particular offense?
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ColeM posted:I thought Randy left, among other talent, was because at the time the WWF was suffering huge losses and PR issues because of wrestler deaths and steroid scandals? I remember reading that Vince was cutting pay for managers and commentators by 30-50% during this time. I think Savage wanted to wrestle, but Vince was on a youth kick at the time and was not interested in the older guys wrestling anymore. So Savage went to WCW, got a pile of money and got to wrestle some more. And hey, maybe he was right because he continued to be a pretty big star in WCW. If Vince was slashing commentator pay as you say, if Savage was affected by that it would make his decision to jump to WCW easy.
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Savage left in 1994 because WWF was phasing him out into an announcer and Hogan got him a gigantic money deal to main event. The original WCW idea was to run a year-plus long Megapowers II type angle, but Hogan's star started fading and they never got to the breakup. It was, by all accounts, a fairly cordial departure for Savage from WWF.
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The most likely explanation I've heard involves Macho Man's Slim Jim ads. Someone on here once described a scenario where Macho got the endorsement deal totally on his own and there was little (or no?) mention of the WWF in the ads. This obviously pissed Vince off, since it was promoting Macho but not the company and Vince/the WWF didn't get his fair shake of the money.
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joshtothemaxx posted:The most likely explanation I've heard involves Macho Man's Slim Jim ads. Someone on here once described a scenario where Macho got the endorsement deal totally on his own and there was little (or no?) mention of the WWF in the ads. This obviously pissed Vince off, since it was promoting Macho but not the company and Vince/the WWF didn't get his fair shake of the money. doesn't explain Vince going after him in 98, well after Savage had gotten that endorsement deal.
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joshtothemaxx posted:The most likely explanation I've heard involves Macho Man's Slim Jim ads. Someone on here once described a scenario where Macho got the endorsement deal totally on his own and there was little (or no?) mention of the WWF in the ads. This obviously pissed Vince off, since it was promoting Macho but not the company and Vince/the WWF didn't get his fair shake of the money. I remember hearing something like that too at one point. How Slim Jim was sponsoring WWF when Macho was there, and when he left for WCW he took Slim Jim too and that upset Vince. And then wasn't there a whole lot of talk about how much Vince loved Savage and he was more hurt by him leaving than anyone else? I wish we knew the whole story, it's so interesting.
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Perigryn posted:It might've been how he left the company by holding him up for money he was owed or else there was the chance he'd leave with the IC title he was supposed to lose to Chyna (his contract expired the day before said match). It's thought that Russo, who left around the same time, might've had a hand in that 'oversight'. I think it was a more broader "Jeff Jarrett is a difficult person to work with" thing. From what I've seen of WCW, TNA and his WWF runs, there seemed to be a bit of little dog complex going on.
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triplexpac posted:I think Savage wanted to wrestle, but Vince was on a youth kick at the time and was not interested in the older guys wrestling anymore. Foley mentioned that when he started commentating on Smackdown Vince started him out at entry level announcer pay. It wouldn't surprise me if they did the same to Savage too
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Lone Rogue posted:We should torture someone by making them watch Bash 2K/Beach 2K and NBR and then watch Wrestlemania XI, In Your House 1 and King of the Ring 95 and decide which was worse. I'll do this. You think I'm kidding but I'm not, I'll do this.
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The "Savage was mad at being demoted to announcer and having younger wrestlers pushed over him" thing also seems weird, because back issues of the Observer talk about Savage sincerely telling Vince that he was retiring from in-ring wrestling around 91-2 despite Vince trying to goad him into taking on more house shows and storylines. I think it's a wrestling mystery we'll never get the answer to.
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Dickeye posted:I'll do this. You think I'm kidding but I'm not, I'll do this. I will join you. I love bad wrestling and I especially like WCW wrestling.
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We'll get an answer eventually because nothing stays secret in wrestling.
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El Duke Silver posted:doesn't explain Vince going after him in 98, well after Savage had gotten that endorsement deal. Yeah but in 1998 WCW was still around and Vince would be getting one of their biggest names. After they were gone Vince could handle doing things based on his own personal grudges and what have you.
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Dickeye posted:I'll do this. You think I'm kidding but I'm not, I'll do this. I'm still sad your '98-99 RAW project tapered off.
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Minges posted:I'm still sad your '98-99 RAW project tapered off. 99-01, actually. But yeah that was just way too big to tackle and I burned out fast. Keep it short and sweet and make it something I can bitch about endlessly, like WCW, and I'm golden. A reminder that the last time I watched WCW I was drinking and I wrote a blog post while drinking and it degenerated from "I'm not sure what's going on here" to: quote:Russo is gnonna cut a promo on Flair and I hate him. THey fans hate him. They're yeling at him for making fun f Ric in fornt of his kid. tony says the Whole country is RUSSO COUNTRY and he's wrong the whole country i America. Stupid. Ric Flair came out and I don't know what he said because i Was getting my thidr drink but I bet he said I'M THE NATURE BOY WOOOOOO and he said Russo won;'t be Space Mountain IDK what that means. If flair wins they're shaving Russo's head and it's Flair and Reed vs Russo and David b/c Russo says David Flair is his son. WTF. I still don't know what the Space Mountain line means.
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Dickeye posted:I still don't know what the Space Mountain line means. Its his penis bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Jun 22, 2012 |
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bobkatt013 posted:Its his penis ...has he ever seen Space Mountain? I wouldn't want my penis looking like that. At all.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:...has he ever seen Space Mountain? I wouldn't want my penis looking like that. At all. It's not so much that Flair's penis is Space Mountain but that Flair *IS* Space Mountain and riding him is riding Space Mountain. To ride Flair is to ride his penis. So it still works out. Flair looking like Space Mountain would be an improvement.
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But Space Mountain sucks. It's a sub-par wild mouse coaster with a bunch of fog and lighting right out of a 70s/80s disco. I'm sure there's a metaphor in here somewhere...
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Pope Corky the IX posted:But Space Mountain sucks. It's a sub-par wild mouse coaster with a bunch of fog and lighting right out of a 70s/80s disco. When it opened, it was completely amazing! Now, not so much.
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We all loved Space Mountain more when we were young and it's lost some of its lustre, but none of us would even think of skipping it if we were in Tomorrowland. Ric_Flair.txt
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Space Mountain is one of the oldest rides in the park, but it's still the most popular one.
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OLDEST RIDE, LONGEST LINE WOOOOOOOOOO 
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I'm like Space Mountain, in that it's a ride that lasts three minutes.
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Lone Goat posted:Space Mountain is one of the oldest rides in the park, but it's still the most popular one. gently caress, then I guess I'm the Jack Rabbit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Rabbit_(Kennywood) "I come complete with double dip! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
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All this Flair talk is making me miss the old Flair/Mean WOOOO BY GAWD Gene promos every week on Nitro.
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triplexpac posted:All this Flair talk is making me miss the old Flair/Mean WOOOO BY GAWD Gene promos every week on Nitro.
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I think it was a video someone posted in the Youtube thread, but it was this Flair promo from way back when in WCW to build up a match with (I think) Ronnie Garvin. I may be wrong on the opponent. Either way, he goes into this weird part of the tirade where he tells the dude that, just like so many women, HE'S gonna ride Space Mountain before Flair rolls over (and the fun is done) and kicks him out of bed or something. It was really strange. Building up a match by telling the dude you're gonna gently caress him and then kick him out. Whatever works, I guess.
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If I have things on my computer, can I run a synctube? Because I'd be willing to do one with the Bash 2k/Beach 2k/NBR marathon next weekend.
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Dickeye posted:If I have things on my computer, can I run a synctube? Because I'd be willing to do one with the Bash 2k/Beach 2k/NBR marathon next weekend. Yes you can. Just bring it to the main one. I just have to warn you that NBR is not online.
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Perigryn posted:The best promos. Counterpoint: YOUR MUSTACHE IS CROOKED!
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404GoonNotFound posted:Counterpoint: YOUR MUSTACHE IS CROOKED! YOUR BEARD IS A LITTLE SIDEWAYS
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bobkatt013 posted:Yes you can. Just bring it to the main one. I just have to warn you that NBR is not online. Yes it is. I have it right now. Also what's the main synctube?
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Dickeye posted:Yes it is. I have it right now. http://www.synchtube.com/r/Manflurry It is just a lot of it had been taken off of youtube.
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bobkatt013 posted:http://www.synchtube.com/r/Manflurry Well that's why I was asking if it was possible to do it using videos from my computer or if I should just do a livestream or what. I don't know how this tubing thing works!
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Dickeye posted:Well that's why I was asking if it was possible to do it using videos from my computer or if I should just do a livestream or what. I don't know how this tubing thing works! Ah ya you need to but it on youtube, daily motion, or another uploading service.
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bobkatt013 posted:Ah ya you need to but it on youtube, daily motion, or another uploading service. Word. I'll figure it out in the next few days. I'll either do it next Saturday or in three weeks.
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Dickeye posted:Word. I'll figure it out in the next few days. I'll either do it next Saturday or in three weeks.
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