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I guess its the 'new' Nemesis? The name is kinda dumb :/
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meant to post in homebrew thread. For beer talk, I guess, Sam Adam's Imperial White is not very good at all. Reminded me of Odell's Imperial Pilsener, in that it's a style that gains nothing by being 'double'. global tetrahedron fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Jun 25, 2012 |
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Sirotan posted:I guess its the 'new' Nemesis? The name is kinda dumb :/ I don't generally like anything above 8% but I would track down one of those if it had the same art but was instead called "Master Key" or "Skeleton Key."
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Jun 25, 2012 23:12
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I have a thing.
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Jun 26, 2012 06:04
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FreelanceSocialist posted:I have a thing. Forgot to mention I'd tried that at RFD's event. Not bad, it's almost like a crisp apple cider witbier with a bit of spice. And of course, very polarizing like typical DFH.
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Jun 26, 2012 13:21
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I'm excited to open it - it sounds interesting. Does the cayenne and cilantro give it a little kick at all?
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Jun 26, 2012 14:14
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Not so much a kick, just a tingly kinda warmth on the finish. Didn't get any cilantro.
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Jun 26, 2012 14:17
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I'm in Columbus, Ohio to see Modest Mouse and I picked up some beer here/on the way. I got a variety case of Duck-Rabbit brewery with their Milk Stout, Amber Ale, Porter, and Brown Ale while in Pennsylvania, then in Ohio I visited some small beer store near Barley's Downtown I think it was in the North Market. Great loving selection I found a Brew Kettle Tunguska, 4 pack of Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale, Bruery / Elysian / Stone La Citrueille Cèleste de Citracado, Evil Twin Imperial Biscotti Break, and a Two Brothers Pillar of Salt. I could have easily spent $300 getting everything I wanted but I don't have that kind of money. Next time.
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Jun 26, 2012 21:33
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Any Michigan goons want to meet me at HopCat in Grand Rapids this Thursday and/or Friday? The girlfriend and I are driving up from the Cincinnati area for a very beer-focused vacation. We're planning visits to Founder's, Bell's, Dark Horse and New Holland. Any other places in the area I should check out? We only have 4 days off work together, so we can't venture too far away. In a perfect world we'd have time to make stops in Akron, Ann Arbor, Traverse City and Chicago too, as well as have unlimited money to spend on booze... Is there anything available in MI thats not available in OH/KY? 3 Floyds regular lineup is the only thing that comes to mind, but I'm sure there's some I'm missing.
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Boulevard's brewmaster and one their longest tenured employee (Trip) did the first pitch at the Royals game tonight. When they showed up on TV, I had to break open my last bomber of Long Strange Tripel. drat, that's a delicious beer! Linked below if anybody is not familiar with the beer/brewery. http://www.boulevard.com/BoulevardBeers/long-strange-tripel/
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Merkin Muffley posted:Any Michigan goons want to meet me at HopCat in Grand Rapids this Thursday and/or Friday? The girlfriend and I are driving up from the Cincinnati area for a very beer-focused vacation. Three Floyds doesn't distribute at all to Michigan, Ohio is lucky to get just bombers. Are you going to be in the area on Monday? That's when Founders Frangelic Mountain Brown will be released at the brewery.
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Corbet posted:Three Floyds doesn't distribute at all to Michigan, Ohio is lucky to get just bombers. Are you going to be in the area on Monday? That's when Founders Frangelic Mountain Brown will be released at the brewery. What about Indiana? We'll be spending most of our drive on SR-27 and I-69... We get some of their seasonal bombers down here, but its a crapshoot for the most part. Unfortunately, we're leaving town Saturday, I almost cried when I saw the release date. We booked the trip quite awhile ago, but never really looked closely at what was going on until yesterday. Oops. Merkin Muffley fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Jun 27, 2012 |
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Jun 27, 2012 05:37
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 Yesterday, was a good day. I am sure you guys are familiar with most of these but the only one new to me, the Achel dubbel was much more than I expected (maybe it's the bland label?). One of the best dubbels I have tried to date. I urge everyone to drink all of these at least once! belgians > *
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Jun 27, 2012 16:47
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I had some of that St Bernardus Wit this weekend. That beer is so freakin good.
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http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/pages/community/news/show?title=2012-best-beers-in-america I post this mainly because I love bitching about lists like this. My major  's:90 Minute at 3rd. Four Sierra Nevadas in the top 12, including the wildly mediocre Ruthless Rye. Fat Tire anywhere in the top 50, let alone 20th. Generally ludicrous amounts of IPAs in the top of the list, with the first porter showing up at 21. Hilariously bad representation from absolutely phenomenal breweries like Victory, North Coast, Great Lakes, etc. I could go on, but why bother. And just to back up my bitching with my own list of 25 perfect US beers and some perfect imports. No real order. http://pastebin.com/0V6iQnHT ShaneB fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Jun 27, 2012 |
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Jun 27, 2012 18:19
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The list is generally CA/CO-biased. Plus no Texas 
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Jun 27, 2012 19:19
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SUPER HASSLER posted:The list is generally CA/CO-biased. I believe there was some Rahr beer that got up there in 2011. But don't forget, it's a reader's choice poll (aka popularity contest).
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Jun 27, 2012 19:24
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ShaneB posted:http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/pages/community/news/show?title=2012-best-beers-in-america NO NOT ESB I SAID IPA
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Jun 27, 2012 19:33
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Newcastle is the 7th best importahahahaahahahahahaha
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You can tell its a bullshit list because Pliny the Younger is on the list but there's basically no way enough people have actually *had* PtY given its rarity to get put on any voted list. The entire list is just IPAs because BA sperglords don't like anything but barrel aged stout and IPAs.
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Angry Grimace posted:You can tell its a bullshit list because Pliny the Younger is on the list but there's basically no way enough people have actually *had* PtY given its rarity to get put on any voted list. The entire list is just IPAs because BA sperglords don't like anything but barrel aged stout and IPAs. I would imagine the proportion of active AHBA members who've had it is a bit higher than the general beer drinking population.
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ShaneB posted:http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/pages/community/news/show?title=2012-best-beers-in-america Dogfish 120 being on that list makes me weep for the beer world.
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CalvinDooglas posted:I would imagine the proportion of active AHBA members who've had it is a bit higher than the general beer drinking population. Sure, but its distributed very sparingly in 2 states out of 50 for one day per bar its served in. It's also overrated, if only because you can't possibly meet PTY's hype level.
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ShaneB posted:http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/pages/community/news/show?title=2012-best-beers-in-america You really think Bruery's Otiose is a top 25 beer? I enjoyed it and have a couple more bottles of it but I don't think it's a top 25 beer. If I had go give The Bruery a spot in the top 25, I'd put Oude Tart on it over Otiose.
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Angry Grimace posted:Sure, but its distributed very sparingly in 2 states out of 50 for one day per bar its served in. It's also overrated, if only because you can't possibly meet PTY's hype level. It's distributed to more than 2 states. I agree with the rest of what you said, though. Having had PtY before, I'm pretty certain that it wouldn't really stand out in a blind line-up of DIPAs. It's good but not remotely worthy of the insane hype.
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ShaneB posted:Hilariously bad representation from absolutely phenomenal breweries like Victory, North Coast, Great Lakes, etc. I agreed with you until I got here. Prima, Rasputin, Edmund are all among those breweries' best beers. Unless you meant they should have all been ranked higher?
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cryme posted:I agreed with you until I got here. Prima, Rasputin, Edmund are all among those breweries' best beers. Unless you meant they should have all been ranked higher? And more of them.
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ShaneB posted:And more of them. Seriously. Out of breweries I've had, I think Great Lakes has the best year-round lineup. The Dortmunder, Eliot Ness, and Edmund Fitzgerald are all outstanding and probably near the top of the heap for their respective styles.
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Dortmunder Gold is the only beer that makes me feel like I am cheating on craft beer by drinking PBR. I never realized how much I would miss GLB until I moved away.
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crazyfish posted:Seriously. Out of breweries I've had, I think Great Lakes has the best year-round lineup. The Dortmunder, Eliot Ness, and Edmund Fitzgerald are all outstanding and probably near the top of the heap for their respective styles. Edmund Fitzgerald is probably the best year round porter on the planet and everything they make is good. But I'll take Founders, Bells, and probably FFFs, just off the top of my head.
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Tried the Voodoo Doughnut tonight with my roommate. I got through about 3 sips and he finished almost 1/3 of his glass before we both drainpoured the rest. Still though, worth the experience. After that, I had a Sierra Nevada Kellerweis and he had a Monday Night Eye Patch to wash out the taste. Both of them were pretty solid, although our judgement might have been skewed from just trying to rid the taste of the Voodoo 
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enthe0s posted:After that, I had a Sierra Nevada Kellerweis and he had a Monday Night Eye Patch to wash out the taste. Both of them were pretty solid, although our judgement might have been skewed from just trying to rid the taste of the Voodoo SN Kellerweis is one of my favorite wheat beers, including German varieties- definitely drink it with a fresh mind/palate combination. anybody had the Bruery's Fruet? i'm way curious, but even more wary about spending thirty effing dollars on a bottle.
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ShaneB posted:http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/pages/community/news/show?title=2012-best-beers-in-america No joke, four of those top 5 are some of the highest quality beers brewed in this country. And the other one is Dogfish.
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Tomorrow I am spending my day off traveling to Wisconsin (yeah I know but they have explosives and Minnesota doesn't). Definitely grabbing some New Glarus stuff - anything else I should look for?
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nuncle jimbo posted:Tomorrow I am spending my day off traveling to Wisconsin (yeah I know but they have explosives and Minnesota doesn't). Definitely grabbing some New Glarus stuff - anything else I should look for? Dancing Man Wheat for sure. Shouldn't have any problem finding it. Also the Raspberry Tart.
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Got a chance to do a side by side of both halves of the Lost Abbey/New Belgium collaboration. Lost Abbey's bottles are called Mo' Betta Bretta, New Belgium's are Brett Beer. There is absolutely no contest. Mo' Betta smells like a brett beer with decent funk, flavor is cleanly sour with a great pineapple/lychee finish. Brett Beer smells like canned green beans, asparagus, and day-old urine and tastes like stale malt with virtually no sourness or brett character at all. It's a night and day difference that confuses me given they're the same batch. Add to this the fact that New Belgium pasteurizes their bottles (probably half of what's wrong with the flavor in the first place) and there's literally no reason to buy Brett Beer. It will never improve, while Mo' Betta Bretta will continue to develop because it's still alive and doing what brett does as it ages.
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Pasteurizing didn't ruin the beer - I guess it just wasn't good to start with. NB ages and blends, then pasteurizes. I'm on the fence when it comes to pasteurized beers. There are some that were meant to be experienced exactly as blended (like many of the NB LoF series) and not meant to be aged further. In those cases, pasteurization is a good thing. It ensures the beer I open and pour is the beer the brewers meant it to be - that it hasn't changed. Sometimes, when I see people bragging about cellaring things like Cantillon gueze, I have to wonder - do they have any clue about the process that beer went through? Blending is serious business and many of those beers were not intended to be cellared for several years. FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Jun 28, 2012 |
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In addition to the list I posted earlier, I also picked up a 12.7oz 3 Fonteinen Oude Geuze to try the style. It was only $9 so what the hell right?
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FreelanceSocialist posted:Pasteurizing didn't ruin the beer - I guess it just wasn't good to start with. NB ages and blends, then pasteurizes. I'm on the fence when it comes to pasteurized beers. There are some that were meant to be experienced exactly as blended (like many of the NB LoF series) and not meant to be aged further. In those cases, pasteurization is a good thing. It ensures the beer I open and pour is the beer the brewers meant it to be - that it hasn't changed. Point taken about aging maybe not being what the brewers intended when they put so much effort into mixing, but if anything can be compared directly to champagne I'd say it's geuze. The major champagne houses are just as expert at mixing multiple vintages to produce a desired flavor profile as geuze makers, and older bottles of some champagnes are very much sought after. Some mixes may be best fresh and fall off quickly, while others may develop into different, interesting, still delicious things. It's a risk, but kind of a fun thing to do. Midorka posted:In addition to the list I posted earlier, I also picked up a 12.7oz 3 Fonteinen Oude Geuze to try the style. It was only $9 so what the hell right?
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I just meant aging pasteurized sours. You might get some oxidation and some other minor chemical changes going on, but there are no bugs munching away. The FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Jun 28, 2012 |
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