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i swear to god jj abrams is obsessed with lens flares. even the opening titles of alias had fake lens flares that looked really bad
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I was just imagining the worst of star trek, lost, and Whedon together. It would be the perfect storm of overly elaborate mythos with lame quips and probably a musical episode.
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Jul 5, 2012 03:14
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its probably due to the problem when directors get famous and more control they listen to other people less and just go and gently caress it all up liek star wars (which are not great films not even the first ones but the original trilogy are pretty good fun popcorn adventure films that lucas couldnt do on his own) ahhh spiders posted:lmao is this an agreement lmao or a disagreement lmao? if you disagree then what have they done thats really good? i liked True Lies, black hawk down, prometheus, cant think of anything else they did that was good but compared to their earlier stuff it was bad avatar was complete and utter dreck so dont say that one jj trek was a good film except for all the fuckng lens flares. it was a fun adventure sci fi movie. they should not have had spock in it, totally unrequired
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prometheus is what you get when you make a lost movie basically
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Jul 5, 2012 03:15
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Gladiator was pretty cool, but I was a 13 year old proto neck beard when I first saw it.
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JJ abrams stuff is like...it has the overly broad appeal of poo poo that has been focus grouped to death coupled with a singular focus and vision that comes from a hyper-competent auter you've gotta respect the guy but at the same time none of it feels personal. it's hyper commercial stuff that thrills massively but is ultimately forgettable
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Jul 5, 2012 03:18
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E2M3 posted:is this an agreement lmao or a disagreement lmao? (movies directed by them) black hawk down, gladiator, american gangster, matchstick men, body of lies, titanic, true lies, at the very least agreed that the most prolific vulcan in star trek shouldn't have been in a movie about almost all of the vulcans being killed.
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Watching Aliens now. How did Cameron gently caress up Space Marines in Avatar when they're so awesome here?
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I hate how now that I'm an adult I can't figure out how I feel about a film until some time has passed I hated Children Of Men/loved Avatar when they were first released, but then my opinions switched because I kept thinking about CoM and not Avatar
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Jul 5, 2012 03:21
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mjs6643 posted:Watching Aliens now. How did Cameron gently caress up Space Marines in Avatar when they're so awesome here? how did he "gently caress up space marines"? what is this stupid idealised vision of space marines in power armor that heinlein/warham retards seek?
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Jul 5, 2012 03:22
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TOOT BOOT posted:I hate how now that I'm an adult I can't figure out how I feel about a film until some time has passed sounds about right
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Jul 5, 2012 03:24
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i remember the marines in avatar being basically the same as the ones in aliens: regular marines wearing plastic spraypainted armour
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Jul 5, 2012 03:24
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Yeah, but they were just overly evil in avatar. There was slightly more depth in aliens
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Jul 5, 2012 03:26
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mjs6643 posted:Yeah, but they were just overly evil in avatar. There was slightly more depth in aliens they weren't bad guys in aliens though
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Jul 5, 2012 03:27
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the xenomorphs in aliens and the marines in avatar were just following orders
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I'm probably biased because I loving hate avatar.
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die hard is the best straight up 80s action movie but i think aliens was a better movie overall terminator, the road warrior, first blood, and conan the barbarian are the other best 80s action movies ahhh spiders posted:(movies directed by them) i didnt like most of those, black hawk down was good and i mentioned true lies already but overall the rest are inferior i really wanted to like american gangster and matchstick men too but hated htem both body of lies lol no titanic i refuse to see so no comment gladiator i didnt see yet Bedshaped posted:i'm wil wheaton irl i loved your work in the last prostitute and toy soldiers mr wheaton
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ahhh spiders posted:i'm not sure i'd call t2 and aliens the best action movies of all time but they're really good. aliens isn't really an action movie maybe not the best scifi, but probably two of the most influential movies in the action jonrah
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The directors cut of Alien 3 (the real as in not the aborted version that Fox released) is actually a coherent, depressing, moody as gently caress, dark monster movie. And I kind of like it. It's too long though. I went back and watched the theatrical release and it basically makes no sense. Got the bluray set on amazon for about 20$ a month ago, it's nice.
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Jul 5, 2012 03:38
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ahhh spiders posted:the directors cut of aliens ruins the movie Aside from the Newt part and the sentry guns, what was different? The Ripleys daughter stuff?
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Jul 5, 2012 03:39
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ahhh spiders posted:the directors cut of aliens ruins the movie
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Doesn't it add more crap about the colony before the aliens take over?
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Jul 5, 2012 03:41
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LmaoTheKid posted:Aside from the Newt part and the sentry guns, what was different? The Ripleys daughter stuff? it can't be this part  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHYGgOXww48 also, rip bob arctor
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Jul 5, 2012 03:41
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LmaoTheKid posted:Aside from the Newt part and the sentry guns, what was different? The Ripleys daughter stuff? the whole part with the colonists before the marines arrive kills the mystery
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Jul 5, 2012 03:42
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Alien and terminator are horror movies aliens and t2 are action movies Alien 3 and terminator 3 are bad movies
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Jul 5, 2012 03:42
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can we compile a list of "proper" sci fi movies? as in, actual conceptual sci fi? I like sci-fantasy and poo poo as well but proper sci fi is hard to come by -2001 -primer -solaris -stalker -alien -blade runner uhhhhhhhhh ? EDIT: the fly
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Nice!
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E2M3 posted:jj trek was a good film except for all the fuckng lens flares. it was a fun adventure sci fi movie. they should not have had spock in it, totally unrequired the entire movie is about the result of something spock did how is that unrequired i'm not saying that the story was good or that it even made sense if you think about it for more than a minute but still, hes basically the reason for literally everything that happens in the entire loving thing
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ahhh spiders posted:they weren't bad guys in aliens though they were lovely bad guys with no depth or arc at all now im filmsperging a bit but i read an article re: the original treatment which sounded way better than the film we got where it focused more on how hosed up earth is and why everyone acts like assholes on pandora it didnt make it sound like it would become an epic film but it was more coherent at least http://www.chud.com/21969/project-880-the-avatar-that-almost-was/ LmaoTheKid posted:The directors cut of Alien 3 (the real as in not the aborted version that Fox released) is actually a coherent, depressing, moody as gently caress, dark monster movie. And I kind of like it. It's too long though. yep it could have been an inferior version of alien david fincher is awesome and only made 2 bad films including alien3 so i blame fox FMguru posted:deleted scenes are deleted for a reason the dleeted scenes in alien with the guy being changed into an egg are even worse i'm shocked to this day that guy from return of the lviing dead had anything to do with this film and im glad they cut some of his dumber ideas
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ahhh spiders posted:the whole part with the colonists before the marines arrive kills the mystery Yeah. I can see that. When I was younger I got the two part Dark Horse Newts Tale and it was cool as hell to see them get in.
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amf5 posted:the entire movie is about the result of something spock did how is that unrequired well yeah but they didnt need to bring nimoy into it they coulda olded up syler for that it was pandering plain and simple
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E2M3 posted:well yeah but they didnt need to bring nimoy into it they coulda olded up syler for that who gives a poo poo
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Jul 5, 2012 03:46
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alien 3 didn't just have pacing problems though the whole concept was just too loving grimdark aliens infesting your body and raping you from the inside out is bad enough, you don't need to add prison cabin fever to the mix
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I guess to serious post the thing I like about aliens is that they're all cavalier with their training and depleted uranium assault rifles and then it all just goes to hell over the course of the movie. It's an action movie, but for an 80s action movie it's not nearly as triumphant as a Rambo movie or Die Hard. It's a bit more Lovecraftian.
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Amethyst posted:alien 3 didn't just have pacing problems though i liked the way it bounced back from the militarization of aliens no guns, just improvised poo poo but yeah, it was a little too dark corridors of doom
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ahhh spiders posted:who gives a poo poo hmmm actually just realized i dont i hope they do a sequel with whopper Goldberg as Guinean tho best part of tng
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JustFrakkingDoIt posted:i liked the way it bounced back from the militarization of aliens on top of the ultra grim setting, they then decide to kill off all four protagonists from the previous film in the most horrible way possible whoever wrote that screenplay must have been having a bad year EDIT: also lance hendriksen turning up at the end was dumb as poo poo goddamn I hated that movie
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