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Industrial
May 31, 2001

Everyone here wishes I would ragequit my life

RBX posted:

Is antichrist any good?

It's basically a random collection of unrelated horror images. Watch it if you want to see a woman try to kill her husband then not try to kill him then try to kill him again for no reason, repeat ad nauseum.

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Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

Formerly known as
Krazyface
Hair Elf
Are the Poltergeist sequels worth watching?

MOAR
Mar 6, 2012

Death! Put your jacket on or you'll get frostbite!

Krazyface posted:

Are the Poltergeist sequels worth watching?

I don't think either come close to the original. I thought 2 had some good effects for the time and I think it's OK to watch that.

3 on the other hand is just bad.

Neumonic
Sep 25, 2003

This is my serious face.

Industrial posted:

It's basically a random collection of unrelated horror images. Watch it if you want to see a woman try to kill her husband then not try to kill him then try to kill him again for no reason, repeat ad nauseum.

I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure the point is she is trying to get him to kill her because she went crazy and let the kid die.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

Industrial posted:

It's basically a random collection of unrelated horror images. Watch it if you want to see a woman try to kill her husband then not try to kill him then try to kill him again for no reason, repeat ad nauseum.

Don't forget the genital crushing!

hypersleep
Sep 17, 2011

Industrial posted:

It's basically a random collection of unrelated horror images. Watch it if you want to see a woman try to kill her husband then not try to kill him then try to kill him again for no reason, repeat ad nauseum.

Yeah it's not for everyone but I don't think you understood the movie at all.

I thought it was pretty drat good. The cinematography was beautiful.

Industrial
May 31, 2001

Everyone here wishes I would ragequit my life

hypersleep posted:

Yeah it's not for everyone but I don't think you understood the movie at all.

I thought it was pretty drat good. The cinematography was beautiful.

I definitely did not understand the final scene, feel free to explain that one.

H.P. Shivcraft
Mar 17, 2008

STAY UNRULY, YOU HEARTLESS MONSTERS!

Industrial posted:

I definitely did not understand the final scene, feel free to explain that one.

I doubt you'll be persuaded the film's any better, but since you asked:

The short of it, in my sense of the movie, is that he is being confronted with the countless women who have been rendered faceless subjects of scientific/psychological inquiry, exploitation, and horrific projection over the course of history by male authority figures like himself. This could only happen after confronting his wife's own radically internalized misogyny, which he in part fosters despite his own pretensions of liberalism. He is the 'antichrist' of the title -- a seemingly benign healer, seeking to restore harmony, who only engenders chaos.

Other people might have other takes. I'd like to hear them, if so!

hypersleep
Sep 17, 2011

H.P. Shivcraft posted:

I doubt you'll be persuaded the film's any better, but since you asked:

The short of it, in my sense of the movie, is that he is being confronted with the countless women who have been rendered faceless subjects of scientific/psychological inquiry, exploitation, and horrific projection over the course of history by male authority figures like himself. This could only happen after confronting his wife's own radically internalized misogyny, which he in part fosters despite his own pretensions of liberalism. He is the 'antichrist' of the title -- a seemingly benign healer, seeking to restore harmony, who only engenders chaos.

Other people might have other takes. I'd like to hear them, if so!

This was pretty much my understanding of the ending. You explained it much better than I would have.

sethsez
Jul 14, 2006

He's soooo dreamy...

H.P. Shivcraft posted:

I doubt you'll be persuaded the film's any better, but since you asked:

The short of it, in my sense of the movie, is that he is being confronted with the countless women who have been rendered faceless subjects of scientific/psychological inquiry, exploitation, and horrific projection over the course of history by male authority figures like himself. This could only happen after confronting his wife's own radically internalized misogyny, which he in part fosters despite his own pretensions of liberalism. He is the 'antichrist' of the title -- a seemingly benign healer, seeking to restore harmony, who only engenders chaos.

Other people might have other takes. I'd like to hear them, if so!

Yeah, that's pretty much how I took it as well. It's blatantly symbolic but far from random or unrelated to the rest of the movie.

Slasherfan
Dec 2, 2003
IS IT WRONG THAT I ONCE WROTE A HORROR STORY ABOUT THE BUDDIES? YOU KNOW, THE TALKING PUPPIES?
Londons Frightfest has posted it's 13th programme for this year. I already got my tickets booked.
http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/56859/film4-frightfest-announces-incredible-line-fright-flicks

Awesome Andy
Feb 18, 2007

All the spoils of a wasted life

MOAR posted:

I don't think either come close to the original. I thought 2 had some good effects for the time and I think it's OK to watch that.

3 on the other hand is just bad.

Just watched 3 recently, it is bad for lots of reasons, but it also has some cool stuff going for it. Some of the jump scares are done nicely until the whole mirrors everywhere thing gets played out.
Also the little girl died just before filming wrapped and so the ending has a double which is weird.

Spermanent Record
Mar 28, 2007
I interviewed a NK escapee who came to my school and made a thread. Then life got in the way and the translation had to be postponed. I did finish it in the end, but nobody is going to pay 10 bux to update my.avatar
Wow, Evidence is somewhat...out there. Stick with the annoying characters and there is something of a payoff. I usually hate found footage but this managed to avoid most of the more irritating/stultifying cliches.

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011
So I just found out that Hostel: Part III is directed by the same guy who directed Intruder (1989), one of my favorite slashers.

My interest is now definitely piqued.

User-Friendly
Apr 27, 2008

Is There a God? (Pt. 9)

WickedIcon posted:

So I just found out that Hostel: Part III is directed by the same guy who directed Intruder (1989), one of my favorite slashers.

My interest is now definitely piqued.

It's on Netflix. It's alright, mildly disappointing.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

It was better than I expected for DTV. Kind of distracting for me since that "Vegas casino" is so obviously one I used to go to all the time here when I played poker, though.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Darko posted:

It was better than I expected for DTV. Kind of distracting for me since that "Vegas casino" is so obviously one I used to go to all the time here when I played poker, though.

Meaning it's in Delaware or Colorado or something?

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!
I caught Grave Encounters on a whim this weekend. It was on one of the Showtime channels, I was on the computer, and thought "eh, I'm a sucker for haunted asylums."

A few days later, and I can't quite put my finger on it, but that movie hosed with my head. The tipping point was when they break open the front door to the asylum, but instead of the outdoors, it's another corridor. And when they find a sign that says "EXIT," it's another corridor. And when they get to the staircase leading to the roof, it's walled off.

Nothing fancy, but it's a nice take on the "found footage" genre.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Jack Gladney posted:

Meaning it's in Delaware or Colorado or something?

It was shot in Detroit at one of the downtown casinos. The casino shots all have the carpeting/etc. which all have the casino names on them. It's one of those movies I was going to be an extra on, but was too lazy to do it. A couple of friends are in it in the bg, though.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"

CobiWann posted:

I caught Grave Encounters on a whim this weekend. It was on one of the Showtime channels, I was on the computer, and thought "eh, I'm a sucker for haunted asylums."

A few days later, and I can't quite put my finger on it, but that movie hosed with my head. The tipping point was when they break open the front door to the asylum, but instead of the outdoors, it's another corridor. And when they find a sign that says "EXIT," it's another corridor. And when they get to the staircase leading to the roof, it's walled off.

Nothing fancy, but it's a nice take on the "found footage" genre.

I liked it, but they stole too much from other sources for my liking. The "hand demon" youtube video was copied almost direction, and the ending was taken from a scene in the remake of House On Haunted Hill.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

User-Friendly posted:

It's on Netflix. It's alright, mildly disappointing.

I found it to be fairly enjoyable except for Kip Pardue. He's awful in everything.

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



Coffee And Pie posted:

I liked it, but they stole too much from other sources for my liking. The "hand demon" youtube video was copied almost direction, and the ending was taken from a scene in the remake of House On Haunted Hill.

And the whole concept is basically House of Leaves.

foodfight
Feb 10, 2009

weekly font posted:

And the whole concept is basically House of Leaves.

That is selling House of Leaves a bit short.

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

foodfight posted:

That is selling House of Leaves a bit short.

And also really playing up the movie by implying it is anywhere near the vague thematic space of House of Leaves, which is to say implying the incredibly mediocre movie is good.

e: Also read House of Leaves.

Mulva fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Jul 7, 2012

Gorman Thomas
Jul 24, 2007
I'm not sure if it strictly classified as horror but I'm watching Possession (1981) on TCM right now and holy poo poo is it a trip. It's wonderfully shot and has fantastic acting by Isabelle Adjani and Sam Neil(!).

edit update: holy poo poo the climax (heh) is :stare: :stare: :stare:

Gorman Thomas fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Jul 7, 2012

justlikedunkirk
Dec 24, 2006
Yeah Possession is bonkers in the best way imaginable. Supposedly Isabelle Adjani came close to a full nervous breakdown after making it, and I can believe it. I don't think I've ever seen someone throw themselves into a role like that before.

Tgent
Sep 6, 2011
So I watched Lake Mungo recently, and it's by far the scariest movie I've ever seen. I've seen Ringu, Blair Witch, REC, The Descent, Alien and so on, but Lake Mungo actually kept me thinking about it for days, and I'm still a bit creeped out when I picture the climactic scene. Any recommendations for similar stuff? Unfortunately Lake Mungo might be near unbeatable for me since I spent a lot of time in desert/outback Australia as a child, making that setting particularly effective. Being made to jump isn't what I consider scary in the slightest, I want some kind of disturbing revelation that keeps me thinking about it. I really like The Orphanage, for instance.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
There isn't really a lot like Lake Mungo, unless you just want to count every muted supernatural film, like Requiem, or The Innocents.

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

Tgent posted:

So I watched Lake Mungo recently, and it's by far the scariest movie I've ever seen. I've seen Ringu, Blair Witch, REC, The Descent, Alien and so on, but Lake Mungo actually kept me thinking about it for days, and I'm still a bit creeped out when I picture the climactic scene. Any recommendations for similar stuff? Unfortunately Lake Mungo might be near unbeatable for me since I spent a lot of time in desert/outback Australia as a child, making that setting particularly effective. Being made to jump isn't what I consider scary in the slightest, I want some kind of disturbing revelation that keeps me thinking about it. I really like The Orphanage, for instance.

I think Lake Mungo really is the best of its kind. I have yet to find such an eerily affecting movie that created dread and suspense out of nothing, really. Something about the documentary aspect of it lent it some weird legitimacy and I just got really into it. My brain stopped thinking of the "it's a movie" aspect and my disbelief was suspended.

Crackerman
Jun 23, 2005

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

There isn't really a lot like Lake Mungo, unless you just want to count every muted supernatural film, like Requiem, or The Innocents.


Tunnel Movie is quite similar in that it's a fake documentary rather than strictly "found" footage. It's not as good but I liked it and there's some genuinely creepy moments, but it's a bit too grounded (sort of) compared to Lake Mungo for it to be as effective for me.

The big scare in Lake Mungo still haunts me when I'm alone at night.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

Crackerman posted:

The big scare in Lake Mungo still haunts me when I'm alone at night.

So much this. I didn't even like Lake Mungo as much as lot of people in this thread and I would still say its worth watching for that moment alone.

f#a#
Sep 6, 2004

I can't promise it will live up to the hype, but I tried my best.
Welp, you guys convinced me to rent Lake Mungo, and yeah, I was surprised at how subdued it kept itself. Some of those atmospheric dolly shots were really beautiful, and it added the slightest bit of tension at the right moments.

But still, the movie didn't really scare me—it had, like, two tricks up its sleeves, and it used one way too often. The "digital zoom to a corner of the frame" effect was reused for every scare, both before and after Mathew's hoax reveal. In that particular moment, the filmmakers defused the tension of the narrative but just kept on using the same techniques. At least show the ghosts moving in or out of view, they couldn't have been there 'til morning every time! The climax scare does change it up, but then it just sort of abruptly ends when the characters affirm that yep, there's no resolution to be had here, moving on.

Bo Berry
Sep 21, 2011

Easy breezy beautiful colored world I'm in love with you
R-O-Y-G-B-I-V your colors are a comedy

Industrial posted:

It's [Antichrist] basically a random collection of unrelated horror images. Watch it if you want to see a woman try to kill her husband then not try to kill him then try to kill him again for no reason, repeat ad nauseum.

I'm not a big fan of Von Trier, but he never seems too concerned with spelling out character motivation. He's kind of subtle about somethings and painfully direct about others. I've heard that he intentionally made Antichrist the Von Trieriest of his movies and I'd be willing to believe that. It's an odd one, for sure, but it has a lot of tension, good looking scenes, and some things to think about as people have already mentioned. If you're a horror fan and you're interested in Von Trier, you might as well start here, though be prepared for something unusual.

CobiWann posted:

I caught Grave Encounters on a whim this weekend. It was on one of the Showtime channels, I was on the computer, and thought "eh, I'm a sucker for haunted asylums."

A few days later, and I can't quite put my finger on it, but that movie hosed with my head. The tipping point was when they break open the front door to the asylum, but instead of the outdoors, it's another corridor. And when they find a sign that says "EXIT," it's another corridor. And when they get to the staircase leading to the roof, it's walled off.

Nothing fancy, but it's a nice take on the "found footage" genre.

My friend showed me that and she loves horror movies, some of them very bad. I was surprised at how good Grave Encounters is. It got a lot of things just perfect, though I thought it did get kind of silly at the end.
I don't think we get enough architectural horror. It's kind of a specific niche though all kinds of works have dealt with it. I remember Stephen King's minisereis Rose Red had a pretty strong impression on me as a child. Survival Horror games seem very interested in environments that change, forcing you the player to physically move through and interact with space that is changing. The most obvious example is probably Silent Hill, though a lot of games have done it to one degree or another. House of Leaves is the most well known example of this kind of horror, and it's a pretty good book in general. I really don't know why this kind of horror is so rarely featured in film.
Grave Encounters goes a little overboard in that it shows not just monsters, but a lot of them. It gets pretty cheesey fast, though the set-up and the middle of the movie get tense as hell and have some interesting stuff. The disturbing parts, and the parts likely to stay with you, aren't really the monsters. My favorite parts are the stuff you spoilered, it's unsettling in a way that's hard to describe.

Bo Berry fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Jul 9, 2012

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames
Speaking of Found Footage, I just watched Evidence.

It starts off as a sort of Blair Witch except with Bigfoot. It was actually really good! The main camera man is painted as a duck but the entire group makes it clear he's psychotic and his personality stops being abrasive and starts making sense. t builds up tension very very well and starts getting good.

Then the film goes absolutely loving bonkers.

You know how if you talk to a little kid and ask him to tell you a story he'll just throw everything he likes together? Like Optimus Prime fights zombies then Pokemon show up and Batman and then and then? This movie just goes from simple to the most convoluted, insane found footage I have ever seen. I have absolutely no idea what happened.

It's like someone found a decent horror film and then shoved the second half of a terrible action/horror movie onto it with absolutely no editing it together or connective story tissue.

It's actually fascinating.

homerlaw
Sep 21, 2008

Plants are the best ergo Sylvari=Best

OldTennisCourt posted:

Speaking of Found Footage, I just watched Evidence.

It starts off as a sort of Blair Witch except with Bigfoot. It was actually really good! The main camera man is painted as a duck but the entire group makes it clear he's psychotic and his personality stops being abrasive and starts making sense. t builds up tension very very well and starts getting good.


Ducks are by far the most awful of the animals

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames

homerlaw posted:

Ducks are by far the most awful of the animals

I'm going to leave that typo, I think it makes the film a lot more interesting.

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

The ending of evidence was loving insane and I have no idea what I watched but I watched the poo poo out of it.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

I've recently been marathoning the Friday the 13th movies, since they're apparently all on Netflix instant barring 5. Man, it's weird watching Jason in the early movies before he became a giant super zombie. In Part 2, he's just some crazy hillbilly in a potato sack who falls down a lot. You actually stand a halfway decent chance of surviving him, provided he doesn't sneak up on you and ninja you to death.

The Mutato
Feb 23, 2011

Neil deGrasse Highson

Crackerman posted:

Tunnel Movie is quite similar in that it's a fake documentary rather than strictly "found" footage. It's not as good but I liked it and there's some genuinely creepy moments, but it's a bit too grounded (sort of) compared to Lake Mungo for it to be as effective for me.

The big scare in Lake Mungo still haunts me when I'm alone at night.

I finished watching the Tunnel the other night and hate it. I've lived in Sydney all my life, but the only time that made things creepy were the stylised opening credits. The documentary format kills all the suspense. They spend about half the film on a behind the scenes doco footage type deal, which could be interesting but somehow they manage to introduce the most boring characters and romance subplots in 45 minutes. Even the scenes about the tunnel are terrible; eg the scene with the politician on the street was horrendously acted/directed.

Finally they get into the tunnel and you know exactly who is going to survive because only 2 characters are doing the loving talking head shots all film (<- only a spoiler if you are stupid as all hell). You get about 3 scenes with the monster, which is legit creepy, but just as the suspense reaches a tolerable level, the movie ends in a lovely irrational way. If they cut out all the documentary crap, added in some twists down in the tunnel and made it a REC style found footage film, it would have probably kicked some rear end.

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User-Friendly
Apr 27, 2008

Is There a God? (Pt. 9)

DeathChicken posted:

I've recently been marathoning the Friday the 13th movies, since they're apparently all on Netflix instant barring 5. Man, it's weird watching Jason in the early movies before he became a giant super zombie. In Part 2, he's just some crazy hillbilly in a potato sack who falls down a lot. You actually stand a halfway decent chance of surviving him, provided he doesn't sneak up on you and ninja you to death.

I'm pretty sure the idea was that he was literally human until Part 4 or 5, but afterward became a monster.

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