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nexus6 posted:I remember when we didn't have ads in our mobile games. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games, and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in our mobile games, no siree. Television ads don't usually pop up in the middle of the screen, though. They happen during scheduled breaks. Product placement is a better analogy, but even that rarely interrupts the flow. I don't mind ads in games, but that's probably because I don't play any games that have ads.
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precision posted:Television ads don't usually pop up in the middle of the screen, though. They happen during scheduled breaks. Product placement is a better analogy, but even that rarely interrupts the flow. Ads do pop up in the middle of the screen* and it pisses me off just as much as ads in the notification tray. * Warning: Really large GIF. Lowen SoDium fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jul 5, 2012 |
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Jul 5, 2012 17:57
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Lowen SoDium posted:Ads do pop up in the middle of the screen and it pisses me off just as much as ads in the notification tray. Yes, this is something new and horrible. Fox Sports has been around for a long time and didn't used to have a dumb little robot that ran on to the screen and pointed to their sponsors during lulls in the game. Ads have now become intrusive to the point that they are degrading the experience of the product that they surround, and shrugging your shoulders and saying "oh well" is one step toward being a spoon-fed brainwashed corporate zombie. Don't accept it. (I know that you, Lowen SoDium, are specifically not accepting it - this is aimed at anyone who would defend the practice).
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Jul 5, 2012 18:02
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edit: ^^^^ I sort of agree with you but "spoon-fed corporate zombie" is the kind of talk that makes these discussions turn into nightmares. Please don't do that.Lowen SoDium posted:Ads do pop up in the middle of the screen* and it pisses me off just as much as ads in the notification tray. Oh yeah, I forgot about those. Those seem to mostly be in sports programs, as far as I've seen. Most TV I watch is via Hulu or in some other way on my computer (box sets) so I don't see those much. They are annoying as poo poo when college football season rolls around, I'll give you that. precision fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Jul 5, 2012 |
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Jul 5, 2012 18:03
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nexus6 posted:I remember when we didn't have ads in our mobile games. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games, and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in our mobile games, no siree. With the exception of TV and radio they're not actively grabbing at your attention. TV and radio ads are, but are generally in fenced off commercial breaks - sporting events being the near single exception, where there's animated poo poo all over the screen at pretty much all times throughout the program. Mobile notification ads are obnoxious because they're using an active channel that we're currently conditioned to regard as reserved for priority communications as designated by us, and getting ads on that channel is really jarring.
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Jul 5, 2012 18:17
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Midjack posted:Mobile notification ads are obnoxious because they're using an active channel that we're currently conditioned to regard as reserved for priority communications as designated by us, and getting ads on that channel is really jarring. Don't they also use up a nonzero amount of network bandwidth? I can't imagine they'd be the one thing that pushes someone over their data limit (if they even have one) but still, that's another reason for them being kind of dodgy.
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Jul 5, 2012 18:19
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It's terrible when there is something important and I'm waiting to hear from a friend/family member about something and my phone vibrates; I grab it and it's "Free Facebook Contest Giveaway! Just give us personal info!" from some dumb game I haven't played in a month. This is one step from full blown telemarketer, in my opinion. Edit: I have email notifications turned off. My offender was Zenonia 4. Which has since been removed. FuzzyPickles fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jul 5, 2012 |
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Jul 5, 2012 18:38
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Yeah, I hate that too! Wait, I'm thinking of email. Do you have a whitelist for your inbox or something?
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Jul 5, 2012 18:48
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nexus6 posted:I remember when we didn't have ads in our mobile games. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games, and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in our mobile games, no siree.  I saw an ad in my mobile game once. A big, floating ad that lit up with every color of the rainbow, plus some new ones that were so beautiful I fell to my knees and cried. For one brief moment, I felt the heartbeat of creation, and it was one with my own.
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Splizwarf posted:Yeah, it seems like a weird knee-jerk thing for some people. Shucks, I have Woot Watcher installed which runs entirely on notifications. If I don't want my phone to wake me up at night over dumb stuff, I turn off my notification sounds; shocking, I know. What do you guys do when a random email or drunk-text wakes you up? Call up the sender and rage at them? v poo poo, there's a vast different between getting a requested notification from a setting in an app saying NEW EMAIL or WEATHER ALERT versus getting an unrequested/unsolicited notification from a game saying "BUY OUR poo poo NOW". It's not a "weird knee-jerk".
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Jul 5, 2012 19:45
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CLAM DOWN posted:poo poo, there's a vast different between getting a requested notification from a setting in an app saying NEW EMAIL or WEATHER ALERT versus getting an unrequested/unsolicited notification from a game saying "BUY OUR poo poo NOW". It's not a "weird knee-jerk". I have had strike fleet omega installed for a week or two and have only noticed two notifications in the last two days. I would consider someone uninstalling a game for offering what is essentially a coupon for the game and its own products, to be weird knee jerk. Dude who claims he was waiting for some emergency text message and who was taken on an emotional roller coaster by some notification, that's pretty weird as well. Maybe giving certain contacts custom notification sounds could save all of you from this emotional turmoil.
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Jul 5, 2012 20:00
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coyo7e posted:I have had strike fleet omega installed for a week or two and have only noticed two notifications in the last two days. I would consider someone uninstalling a game for offering what is essentially a coupon for the game and its own products, to be weird knee jerk. Of course that's weird and stupid, it's also hyperbole which is too common for my liking. I'm just saying, there's nothing wrong at all with really disliking ad notifications for a game that are unsolicited. It's not a problem with notifications in general, but we want those to be requested and not just game ads out of nowhere (especially if you've already bought an IAP like I have).
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Jul 5, 2012 20:04
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coyo7e posted:I have had strike fleet omega installed for a week or two and have only noticed two notifications in the last two days. I would consider someone uninstalling a game for offering what is essentially a coupon for the game and its own products, to be weird knee jerk. Or maybe this game could shut the gently caress up and folks like you would respect that people don't like their space intruded upon in this manner.
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Jul 5, 2012 20:13
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I haven't installed anything that did it to me, but I imagine if I'm having unsolicited coupons sent to me under the guise of a system notification, I'd be pretty pissed. Especially if it's a thing that I paid for.
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coyo7e posted:I have had strike fleet omega installed for a week or two and have only noticed two notifications in the last two days. I would consider someone uninstalling a game for offering what is essentially a coupon for the game and its own products, to be weird knee jerk. Or you could have a weird, hyperbolic knee-jerk reaction to someone saying they won't put up with ads that interfere with the normal use of the phone. No one is saying the game can't offer coupons, its how it delivers those that's the issue. By all means, as soon as I start up your game, pop up a screen asking me if I want to buy some points. But harassing people when they're doing nothing related to the game isn't a good way to go about it.
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Jul 5, 2012 20:23
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Yeah, I don't really see what's wrong with not wanting notifications over useless bullshit. It's my phone, not the developers. If they want to give me the option to use notifications, go ahead. If they're going to take advantage of non-game related functions of the OS to try to get my attention to spend more money on their game, screw them, it's getting uninstalled.
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Jul 5, 2012 21:24
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I must be really naive. I've never installed, nor even heard of, a game sending you text messages or whatever.  That should be literally illegal. As should blind-call telemarketing, which has begun happening on cell phones now, even though I never give my number to anyone, ever, except people I meet.
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Jul 5, 2012 21:32
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precision posted:I must be really naive. I've never installed, nor even heard of, a game sending you text messages or whatever. It's not text messages, read what we're writing. It's notification pushes.
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Jul 5, 2012 21:36
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precision posted:I must be really naive. I've never installed, nor even heard of, a game sending you text messages or whatever. It doesn't send you a text message; what it does is place a notification into your notification bar. Depending on your phone's settings, this either vibrates the phone, makes a beep, or lights up your notification LED... just as if you'd missed a text or a call. It is pretty annoying when your phone is lit up and it's not a message from a friend and is instead a game nagging you to give them money.
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Jul 5, 2012 21:39
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I thought some awesome new game came out  .
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CLAM DOWN posted:It's not text messages, read what we're writing. It's notification pushes. Right, I worded that poorly, I meant I didn't know having a game installed would make my phone beep at me as if I got a text or missed call. I don't think there's anything at all wrong about getting outraged that a game would do that. (And yes, if I get woken up in the night by a Drunk Text, I usually DO bitch the person out, but I'm far more likely to wake someone else up with one of those  )
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Jul 5, 2012 21:42
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The Android Gaming Megathread: Friends and Family or get off my phone! Personally, I find video ads that disable all your buttons for the duration of the unskippable video (whose raucous volume you can't lower thanks to the button lockout) to be a little more distasteful.
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Jul 5, 2012 21:46
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At night, my phone gets silenced and placed on my wallet face down, so it has no chance of waking me up
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Jul 5, 2012 21:48
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Splizwarf posted:The Android Gaming Megathread: Friends and Family or get off my phone! Nothing worse than this happening while you are taking a poo poo at work, and someone is in the stall next to you.
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Splizwarf posted:The Android Gaming Megathread: Friends and Family or get off my phone! Please tell me what apps include this, because I need to never install them.
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Splizwarf posted:The Android Gaming Megathread: Friends and Family or get off my phone! That would also be awful, and I'd probably not play that either.
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Splizwarf posted:Personally, I find video ads that disable all your buttons for the duration of the unskippable video (whose raucous volume you can't lower thanks to the button lockout) to be a little more distasteful. Wait, this is a thing now? Holy poo poo, that's terrible.
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Jul 5, 2012 22:00
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Yeah, I've never seen those, but I use AdAway so that may be why. Those being worse doesn't make notifications better though. I shouldn't have to mute my phone to stop games from bothering me while I'm not playing them.
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Jul 5, 2012 22:12
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MikeJF posted:Wait, this is a thing now? Holy poo poo, that's terrible. I've never heard of it, but I know Apple patented technology related to just that, yeah.
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Jul 5, 2012 22:33
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Splizwarf posted:The Android Gaming Megathread: Friends and Family or get off my phone! That poo poo won't even get installed. What the gently caress does this?
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Slashkun posted:http://androidandme.com/2012/07/games/final-fantasy-iii-gets-an-english-translation-hits-google-play-for-15-99/ Yeah, it's pretty good but the controls can be a little iffy. For one, the "analog stick" works wherever you put your thumb on the screen, but to activate anything you just tap anywhere on the screen when the prompt pops up. That means anytime you want to examine anything, talk to anyone, or open a chest, you have to position yourself facing it, stop, wait a second, and then tap the screen. It gets pretty obnoxious and for some reason they don't just allow multitouch.
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Jul 5, 2012 23:06
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You know, that's something I'd expect out of a free to play app, not a $16 app.
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Jul 5, 2012 23:38
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Is the Ur Quan Masters Android port any good?
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:You know, that's something I'd expect out of a free to play app, not a $16 app. Square is not known for well made ports. Their worst port is Chrono Trigger to the PSX, it was the Japanese version running in an emulator with a real time translation patch and it ran like poo poo.
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Well regarded iOS top-down racing game Draw Race 2 (NA version, Rest of the World version) got released on Android a few days ago. Its pretty interesting, before each race you draw lines around a circuit for your car to follow. The catch is that your speed is based on how fast you draw the racing line around the track, which is important since going fast into a corner will do things like send your car flying into a wall. Because of this it becomes more of a puzzle game than a typical racing game, though you still have some direct control of your car in the form of a nitro button. It's actually quite challenging early on because you have to try get your head around how to tackle the track, and from what I've heard it gets really hard later on. Its from Red Lynx, the Trials HD guys so it looks pretty slick, and there's about 180 races so its a pretty lengthy game. mrkillboy fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Jul 6, 2012 |
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Yaos posted:Square is not known for well made ports. Their worst port is Chrono Trigger to the PSX, it was the Japanese version running in an emulator with a real time translation patch and it ran like poo poo. Speaking of Chrono Trigger...this came out yesterday https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=br.com.parralax.games.chronotrigger.snesdroid&feature=search_result
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Wonder how long it'll take before that gets pulled.
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mrkillboy posted:Well regarded iOS top-down racing game Draw Race 2 got released on Android a few days ago. This looks awesome but "Not available in your country". It's published by EA and I'm in the US on AT&T on a stock unrooted S3.  What am I doing wrong?
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T00kus posted:Why would that happen? I'm pretty sure "ATH Developer" doesn't own the copyright to both Chrono Trigger and Rock'n'Roll Racing.
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