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Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Oh god drat I didn't realize each one of those was a 5 pack, that's pretty awesome.

All I have is a few rolls of Portra 400 and Ektar 100 left in my fridge :( I need to restock. And never again with Ektar.

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eggsovereasy
May 6, 2011

QPZIL posted:

Oh god drat I didn't realize each one of those was a 5 pack, that's pretty awesome.

All I have is a few rolls of Portra 400 and Ektar 100 left in my fridge :( I need to restock. And never again with Ektar.

Ektar is awesome

MrBlandAverage
Jul 2, 2003

GNNAAAARRRR

eggsovereasy posted:

Ektar is awesome

As long as you're shooting in bright sunlight. And as long as you don't overexpose. Or underexpose. And as long as you don't need the dynamic range you get from other negative film...

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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MrBlandAverage posted:

As long as you're shooting in bright sunlight. And as long as you don't overexpose. Or underexpose. And as long as you don't need the dynamic range you get from other negative film...

This is correct. Ektar basically has slide-film latitude.

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

Paul MaudDib posted:

This is correct. Ektar basically has slide-film latitude.

Ektar is the only slide film Kodak still makes. :snoop:

alkanphel
Mar 24, 2004

8th-samurai posted:

Ektar is the only slide film Kodak still makes. :snoop:

Maybe that's why they canned all their other slide film...

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

alkanphel posted:

Maybe that's why they canned all their other slide film...

No it's because after Kodachrome was discontinued there weren't any Kodak slide films worth buying.

alkanphel
Mar 24, 2004

8th-samurai posted:

No it's because after Kodachrome was discontinued there weren't any Kodak slide films worth buying.

I cannot argue with that!

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

So I just bought a roll of Kodachrome 64 today... I've got some Ektachrome Panther and Ektar 100 coming soon too but was the Kodachrome 64 a complete waste?

scottch
Oct 18, 2003
"It appears my wee-wee's been stricken with rigor mortis."
It sure was.

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

Quantum of Phallus posted:

So I just bought a roll of Kodachrome 64 today... I've got some Ektachrome Panther and Ektar 100 coming soon too but was the Kodachrome 64 a complete waste?

Nope. You own a piece of photographic history...that no one can develop so don't bother shooting it.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Bragging rights only I guess :sigh:

Molten Llama
Sep 20, 2006

8th-samurai posted:

Nope. You own a piece of photographic history...that no one can develop so don't bother shooting it.

That no one can develop right now. There are some insane people making decent progress at a replacement for K-14 process.

Not that I'd get your hopes up.

But you might possibly maybe be able to shoot and process Kodachrome again in the possibly-distant future. Myself, I'd jam the film in the freezer for shooting in that fairytale future.

Genderfluid
Jun 18, 2009

my mom is a slut

Molten Llama posted:

That no one can develop right now. There are some insane people making decent progress at a replacement for K-14 process.

Not that I'd get your hopes up.

But you might possibly maybe be able to shoot and process Kodachrome again in the possibly-distant future. Myself, I'd jam the film in the freezer for shooting in that fairytale future.

Unless you have access to a full photo lab and know enough about the development process to jerry rig the necessary k-14 chemicals, that roll will never be developed as a color film. You can, however, develop it as black and white, though it looks kind of lovely

bobmarleysghost
Mar 7, 2006



So here is the first scan from the expired Portra 160VC.
Not bad at all for a 9 year old film! (I said it expired in 2005 but it's actually 2003).

Shot it at 160, like it's no biggie.

The Gooniest Goon
Jul 10, 2010

Paul MaudDib posted:

Nikon lenses? Are you kidding? Except for the Pre-Ai thing (overcome by a KEH $60 <= Nikkormat FT2 body), Nikon's lenses are super compatible. You can throw a modern supertele/superfast wide lens onto that same body as long as it's got the prongs. And if you're willing to reach back to Pre-AI lenses, the glass gets pretty cheap. There's a lot of slightly-slow (f/3.5-4) and/or early design versions which can be had for cheap as well. They're absolutely great for your average shooter, the quality probably exceeds the kit lens on digital. At every point through it's history, Nikon has been a pro brand. "pro" for the 60s will more than suffice for most people.

I have been shown the light. Thank you. KEH isn't really an option for me though. Their cross-border shipping costs are absurd.

On a semi-related note, I managed to inadvertently disassemble the film-winding mechanism this afternoon (cranked it the wrong way), and just now put it back together using nothing but my intuition. I lost my roll in doing so (and I had just finished it off), but it's a victory for me. :unsmith:

The Gooniest Goon fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Jul 7, 2012

widunder
May 2, 2002
I've been lusting for a cheapo Soviet Leica clone lately (after getting my hands on a Zenit TTL and realizing that "hey, this isn't so bad after all"). What do you guys recommend? My friend has a FED-3 that he seems happy with it, I'm looking at one of those, a FED-2 or maybe a Zorki. Any thoughts?

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

nemoulette posted:

I've been lusting for a cheapo Soviet Leica clone lately (after getting my hands on a Zenit TTL and realizing that "hey, this isn't so bad after all"). What do you guys recommend? My friend has a FED-3 that he seems happy with it, I'm looking at one of those, a FED-2 or maybe a Zorki. Any thoughts?

I like my Zorki 6 from Fedka.com just be careful winding it as some people have issues tearing film. Be prepared to align your rangefinder though just in case.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.
Zorki 4K is probably the safest bet. It's a smooth-operating, solid piece of machinery. The other models are chancier, quality-wise. The 4K was one of those things where they made a bazillion of them because the design was good enough and they left it alone.

Spedman
Mar 12, 2010

Kangaroos hate Hasselblads
I got my FED-2 from fedka.com too, along with a "new old stock" Jupiter 8-1, really happy with it. Just have to keep in mind the winding/shutter peculiarities.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

I've got a couple of Zenit E's and on the one I've tried to use, which has a perfectly fine body, the light meter seems to be really insensitive. It'll tell you to go wide open unless you're in really bright light, is this a known problem with the E or is my light meter fecked?

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

Quantum of Phallus posted:

I've got a couple of Zenit E's and on the one I've tried to use, which has a perfectly fine body, the light meter seems to be really insensitive. It'll tell you to go wide open unless you're in really bright light, is this a known problem with the E or is my light meter fecked?

It's boned. The Zenit E has a selenium cell meter and they lose sensitivity with time and exposure to light.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Aww nuts, it's in perfect condition otherwise.

widunder
May 2, 2002

HPL posted:

Zorki 4K is probably the safest bet. It's a smooth-operating, solid piece of machinery. The other models are chancier, quality-wise. The 4K was one of those things where they made a bazillion of them because the design was good enough and they left it alone.
Looks neat (non-K version), thanks!

http://youtu.be/Nyt4MqJkp7I

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

nemoulette posted:

Looks neat (non-K version), thanks!

http://youtu.be/Nyt4MqJkp7I

No no. Get the 4K, not the non-K version. The non-K uses a knob for film winding which is really annoying because sometimes you'll get a camera where it's smooth winding but then you get one that's gritty and hard to turn and you'll get sore fingers if you shoot a lot. The lever winder on the 4K is far, far superior because it's easier and faster to use. The only advantage the non-K has is that it has strap lugs.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
I really want to try something like the Zorki 6 and the prices seem really right, but my only hesitation is having an entirely unmetered camera. Until now I've been a primarily Aperture Priority shooter, and the thought of switching to Sunny-16 for all my guesstimation is just a little scary. I'm talking for walkabout "gotta get that pic oops its gone" shooting, not "hey I've got time to sit and think about this exposure for five minutes, maybe whip out my pocket light meter" shooting.

widunder
May 2, 2002

HPL posted:

No no. Get the 4K, not the non-K version. The non-K uses a knob for film winding which is really annoying because sometimes you'll get a camera where it's smooth winding but then you get one that's gritty and hard to turn and you'll get sore fingers if you shoot a lot. The lever winder on the 4K is far, far superior because it's easier and faster to use. The only advantage the non-K has is that it has strap lugs.
Yeah definitely looking at the K version, just liked the video.

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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Zombotron posted:

I have been shown the light. Thank you. KEH isn't really an option for me though. Their cross-border shipping costs are absurd.

On a semi-related note, I managed to inadvertently disassemble the film-winding mechanism this afternoon (cranked it the wrong way), and just now put it back together using nothing but my intuition. I lost my roll in doing so (and I had just finished it off), but it's a victory for me. :unsmith:

I'll cross-ship for people, and fill the box with cheap American film if you want too.

widunder
May 2, 2002
Ektar 100 is nice but drat it I can't get the CanoScan 8800 to scan my negatives nicely. Also, scratches that don't turn up on the prints seem to turn up when I scan the negatives, what gives?

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
So I think I'm over my no-aperture-priority fear and am about to order the Zorki 6 from fedka. Any reason I should be looking at a 4K instead? Anyone have both/used both that could offer some insight?

Not sure if this belongs in the gear thread or here, but I figure you guys would be more familiar with these old socialist baddies.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Martytoof posted:

So I think I'm over my no-aperture-priority fear and am about to order the Zorki 6 from fedka. Any reason I should be looking at a 4K instead? Anyone have both/used both that could offer some insight?

Was looking at the Zorki 6 earlier today actually, seems pretty nice, let me know how you find it.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Quantum of Phallus posted:

Was looking at the Zorki 6 earlier today actually, seems pretty nice, let me know how you find it.

I emailed Fedka to see if he'd switch the rigid Industar-50 with the collapsible one and how much more that would cost, but if I don't hear back from him by EOD I'll order with the fixed lens and worry about it later.

I mean a camera with a lens for $99; at that price I can afford to experiment.

I suppose I could find one cheaper on eBay, but I generally dislike eBay and I'd rather go with fedka's solid reputation for standing behind his sales.

I'll definitely post back once I receive it with as much detail as I can.

e: Zorki ordered. May god have mercy on my commie camera owning rear end :ohdear:

e2: In the meantime, I got a Yashica Eletro 35 GSN from Paul MaudDib and I'm really anxious to dig into it to fix the Pad of Death and get out on the street SHOOTIN'!

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Jul 10, 2012

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Martytoof posted:

I mean a camera with a lens for $99; at that price I can afford to experiment.

I've been looking at them on eBay for about €40-70 as Buy it Now auctions. I hate bidding on stuff but I've never had a problem with Buy it Now.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Any opinions on Fuji Reala? It's the cheapest decent 100 ISO film on Adorama, and I'm about to take a vacation where I need to stay on a budget :shobon:

MrBlandAverage
Jul 2, 2003

GNNAAAARRRR

QPZIL posted:

Any opinions on Fuji Reala? It's the cheapest decent 100 ISO film on Adorama, and I'm about to take a vacation where I need to stay on a budget :shobon:

I get magenta casts in anything other than direct undiffused sunlight, so for my purposes it's in the unusable category along with Ektar.

Is your vacation far away enough that you could get some lightly expired Portra 160NC off eBay instead?

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.
In my opinion, the Zorki 4K is a better camera than the 6. The 6 has nice features like a hinged back but the 4K is a better-operating machine. It also has a far better viewfinder. The 4K's viewfinder is big and bright as Russian rangefinders go.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Welp, too late for now. Gotta live with the 6 until next paycheck :3:

ASSTASTIC
Apr 27, 2003

Hey Gusy!
Where do you guys buy chemicals from? I'm trying to develop some Fuji Neopan 100ss. I hear that D-76 is a good process...?

I've got a developing can and scanner. Just need the chemicals.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
There are/were two camera shops in my town that sold chemicals, and the big chain store (Henry's) doesn't stock any chemicals anymore (at least mine doesn't), but can order just about anything I want.

I actually prefer it over ordering from the internet. I'll support the small store if they have what I want or can order what I need. Otherwise I'll check the chain store, and if THEY can't order it, only then will I turn to the internet.

I'm not sure why I prefer this. Probably just an excuse to go to the camera store and geek out.

So basically I guess check your yellow pages or google for camera stores in your area. The less "chain", the better chance they have of stocking some chemicals.

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eggsovereasy
May 6, 2011

ASSTASTIC posted:

Where do you guys buy chemicals from? I'm trying to develop some Fuji Neopan 100ss. I hear that D-76 is a good process...?

I've got a developing can and scanner. Just need the chemicals.

My local store or B&H, but I've been slowly falling in love with Rodinal lately which B&H won't ship so I order it from freestyle. D76 is a great general purpose developer. Tons of schools and labs use(d) D76. Ilford has ID-11 which is the same thing, not sure if there's a difference in price but worth checking out.

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