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wattershed
Dec 27, 2002

Radio got his free iPod, did you get yours???

Captain Shortbus posted:

Please report back on this. I almost bought one earlier this week, but I couldn't justify $20 for a bottle. If it's great, that could change.

Other than it being ridiculously scummy and maybe illegal, what is the hell is stopping me from selling bottles of Pliny on eBay at a greatly inflated price?

Or, is it just those two things and I'm missing out?

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SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

Indeed, Austin is in my opinion a great beer location in the US by this point. I think it's earned this.

Also on Sixth Street is a "brewpub" called Lovejoy's. I put "brewpub" in quotes because they indeed brew some of their own beer (the IPA is good), but really it is an incredibly ugly-looking biker diver bar where people play pool for big money. It's an awesome atmosphere, definitely, but don't expect some sort of high cuisine to go with it.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

FreelanceSocialist posted:

I have a lot of branded glassware of all types, but I never use any of it. It just sort of accumulates due to my job. For regular use, I have some nonics. For tasting/note-taking/reviewing, I just use stemless red wine glasses. The nonics are easy to clean and pleasing to hold. The stemless glasses accentuate the different qualities I look for in appearance and in aroma and lend themselves to sipping, while the thinner walls seem to allow the beer to warm faster, which is also important if you want a complete picture of how a specific beer behaves. And they're dishwasher-safe and cheap/easy to replace, as well. Always important.

I kind of laugh every time I see a BA review that begins with "Poured from a such-and-such into my [BIG NAME BREWERY] [HYPE-TRAIN BEER] [ULTRA-SPECIFIC GLASS STYLE]..."

I have a few tulips, but I really like those elongated tulip-style (not the short fat ones, I don't actually know what they're called) pint glasses for drinking normal gravity beers. My friends will laugh if I pull one out for them so I have a pretty big supply of typical local brewery branded pint glasses.

I was bored at work today and read a few of these reviews today. I gotta say, it's really easy to craft and/or summarize the vast majority of lovely BA-style reviews.

1) Establish your beer credibility by describing in exact detail the circumstances that surrounded moving the beer from Vessel A to Vessel B, e.g. "[p]oured from a such-and-such into my [BIG NAME BREWERY] [HYPE-TRAIN BEER] [ULTRA-SPECIFIC GLASS STYLE]...;"

2) Proceed to a long form description of the lacing left in the glass, because it establishes your deep insight into beer knowledge as only true, deep, thoughtful beer cognoscenti understand the connection between retained foam on the glass and overall beer quality;

3) Describe the beer with half of the contents of their mother's spice rack. Attempting to describe the beer by comparing it to its nominal style guidelines or by naming a specific ingredient, grain or hop contained in the beer will causes you to lose all credibility on the reviewing site. Ex: "I detect notes of allspice, duck fat, dog farts, chamomile, and jasmine and a little bit of cinammon buried underneath the lavender notes."

4) Give the beer a 90 (or 4/5 average) even if you did not like it.

//

A friend and I went to a couple of local brewpubs in LA and I was rather shocked by how marginal the on-site brewed stuff was. Super over-bittered IPAs and acrid Imperial Stouts with way too much astringent black malt character. Are there any decent breweries in LA? Why not?

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
I've kind of moved towards doing the A/S/T/M/O thing and just putting brief notes in, because if it takes more than thirty seconds to read, it's useless.

wattershed posted:

Other than it being ridiculously scummy and maybe illegal, what is the hell is stopping me from selling bottles of Pliny on eBay at a greatly inflated price?

Nothing, really.

FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Jul 7, 2012

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Captain Shortbus posted:

Please report back on this. I almost bought one earlier this week, but I couldn't justify $20 for a bottle. If it's great, that could change.

A person who's taste I trust very much says it's one of the best things he's had in a while. I'd jump at it for $20.

nah
Mar 16, 2009

Corbet posted:

You guys have really ramped up the release of barrel aged offerings. Is there any strategy on how often you'll be releasing them? Completely random? We've seen 3 different Barrel aged beers in the last month.

Absolutely no strategy. I imagine most other notable breweries spend a lot pf time devoted to marketing and release strategies but uh we don't. At all. We have a couple big events a year but otherwise just play it by ear. With the Cognac Church I told Joey after we bottled it Monday, "Hey I'm going to start selling these Friday" and he said "Okay" and that was that. It kinda owns.

funkybottoms: depends on what vibe you want. Want to be all alone with your thoughts and a flight of beers, come in on a Monday morning. Want to be around beer geeks, come Thursday nights. Want a food truck and/or special cask beer, come Friday or Saturdays. Either way let me know when you're there!

Going to 7venth Sun today. Going to drink a lot of good hoppy beers. Going to get hammered again. I need to curtail my big sloppy messy weekends :ohdear:

InsensitiveSeaBass
Apr 1, 2008

You're entering a realm which is unusual. Maybe it's magic, or contains some kind of monster... The second one. Prepare to enter The Scary Door.
Nap Ghost
I drank a Delerium Tremens last night and it was good, but I wouldn't put it as the best beer I ever had. How much of it's "best beer in the world" is hype?

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
Dogfish Head managed to inadvertently make a pretty good beer. I tried Positive Contact on draft yesterday. It's supposed to be a beer/cider hybrid, based on a 9% witbier but made with Fuji apples, roasted farro, cayenne peppers, and cilantro.

You can't taste *any* of that stuff, except the apples, which make it taste like a pretty decent tripel and nothing like a wit. If you wanted to make a tripel I'm not sure why you wouldn't just make a tripel instead of making an imperial wit and adding a bunch of weird poo poo to it, but at least it tastes good in the end.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

InsensitiveSeaBass posted:

I drank a Delerium Tremens last night and it was good, but I wouldn't put it as the best beer I ever had. How much of it's "best beer in the world" is hype?

I wasn't aware it was considered the "best in the world". It's a good Belgian. Duvel is often rated higher than DT.

FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Jul 7, 2012

nah
Mar 16, 2009

InsensitiveSeaBass posted:

I drank a Delerium Tremens last night and it was good, but I wouldn't put it as the best beer I ever had. How much of it's "best beer in the world" is hype?

Someone called it that back in like 96 or 97 and they've stood by it. Similar to PBR in that regard.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Phanatic posted:

Dogfish Head managed to inadvertently make a pretty good beer. I tried Positive Contact on draft yesterday. It's supposed to be a beer/cider hybrid, based on a 9% witbier but made with Fuji apples, roasted farro, cayenne peppers, and cilantro.

You can't taste *any* of that stuff, except the apples, which make it taste like a pretty decent tripel and nothing like a wit. If you wanted to make a tripel I'm not sure why you wouldn't just make a tripel instead of making an imperial wit and adding a bunch of weird poo poo to it, but at least it tastes good in the end.
Because Dogfish Head

Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

CYBER SLIMER posted:

Absolutely no strategy. I imagine most other notable breweries spend a lot pf time devoted to marketing and release strategies but uh we don't. At all. We have a couple big events a year but otherwise just play it by ear. With the Cognac Church I told Joey after we bottled it Monday, "Hey I'm going to start selling these Friday" and he said "Okay" and that was that. It kinda owns.


You must be good friends with the Swamp Head guys, any idea when the PVW Roosevelt will be bottled?

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

Angry Grimace posted:

Because Dogfish Head

I honestly thought I was drinking an apple version of Noble Rot. Kind of a letdown. Not a bad beer, just not as :catdrugs: as I had hoped.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.
I'm confused as to where you guys are getting the classification of Positive Contact, nowhere on the DFH website or quick-sips does it claim it anything other than a beer/cider hybrid. It never mentions any specific style. The only classification I can find of it is Beeradvocate listing it as a Witbier.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

CYBER SLIMER posted:

funkybottoms: depends on what vibe you want. Want to be all alone with your thoughts and a flight of beers, come in on a Monday morning. Want to be around beer geeks, come Thursday nights. Want a food truck and/or special cask beer, come Friday or Saturdays. Either way let me know when you're there!

i wish it was me- it's my older brother who is not quite as beer-geeky as me, so i might have to shame in into going because his in-laws live about an hour away. if so, i'll make sure he knows to look out for you.

speaking of CCB, our region got kegs of a few things we hadn't seen before- Ligero and Table Saison- so i got real excited when a restaurant owner posted that he had Cucumber Saison. turns out it was Stateside Saison run through cucumber, cilantro, and green pepper, so i passed, disappointed.

Toebone
Jul 1, 2002

Start remembering what you hear.

Wolfy posted:

I'm going to visit my family in the Bay Area and I was wondering if anyone who lives up there can tell me where to find Pliny the Elder. It's absolutely impossible to find down south.

I had good luck finding fresh bottles at Whole Foods last time I was in SF

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Midorka posted:

I'm confused as to where you guys are getting the classification of Positive Contact, nowhere on the DFH website or quick-sips does it claim it anything other than a beer/cider hybrid. It never mentions any specific style. The only classification I can find of it is Beeradvocate listing it as a Witbier.

For this recipe I meat a friend at the rooftop Birreria in NYC and we tested a whole mess of different fresh ingredients in a base of Belgian white beer.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

Thanks for the link, I didn't see that blog post.

Powdered Toast Man
Jan 25, 2005

TOAST-A-RIFIC!!!
So, I'm going here tonight: http://www.brickstorepub.com/draughtbeer/

Any recommendations? I like Belgian ales so that selection looks interesting to me, although I've had a couple of them before. I also love IPAs...

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

i see that this place is in GA- do you live in the state? if not, try the local brews; if you do, the only things that stand out as non-standard offerings are the Allagash Victoria and Gulden Draak 9000 (and the Sweetwater, but they don't get distribution in VA).

VVV $12.99- suck it, NOVA! VVV

funkybottoms fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Jul 7, 2012

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

If you know the words, you can join in too
He's bigger! faster! stronger too!
He's the newest member of the Jags O-Line crew!
Frangelic mountain for $21? No thanks Westover Market.

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

If you know the words, you can join in too
He's bigger! faster! stronger too!
He's the newest member of the Jags O-Line crew!
Infected Blue Mountain Dark Hollow from my 2009 bottle and the newest 2012 batch :(

Beware VA buyers.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Munkaboo posted:

Infected Blue Mountain Dark Hollow from my 2009 bottle and the newest 2012 batch :(

Beware VA buyers.

Farmhouse brewery :v:

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
I almost bought a case of Frangelic just to ebay most of it. Almost.

Wizbro
Jul 6, 2012
I've recently moved from Texas to Manitoba and am having trouble finding good beers to drink. I wouldn't say I'm picky but I never really got the taste for a lot of beers. Pretty much the only beers I drank came out of the Shiner family. Their Bock to be more specific. I've been trying to find a suitable replacement but most Canadian beers don't really taste good to me. I can drink Keith's occasionally but lately I've turned to MGD as my "gently caress it I just want to get drunk" beer.

Any northern goons got some suggestions for poo poo I can try out?

Josh Wow
Feb 28, 2005

We need more beer up here!

Wizbro posted:

Any northern goons got some suggestions for poo poo I can try out?

I'm not Canadian but I thought Sleeman's Cream Ale and Honey Brown Lager were pretty good when I had them.

Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!

Captain Shortbus posted:

Please report back on this. I almost bought one earlier this week, but I couldn't justify $20 for a bottle. If it's great, that could change.

Take my opinion with a grain of salt because I'm a beer newb, but I loved this stuff. Sour, fruity, very complex. I've really never had anything like it. Definitely worth the price.

Chinston Wurchill
Jun 27, 2010

It's not that kind of test.

Josh Wow posted:

I'm not Canadian but I thought Sleeman's Cream Ale and Honey Brown Lager were pretty good when I had them.

Sleeman's is probably the best of the widely distributed Canadian beers. Mill St. and Steamwhistle (Ontario) are good if you can get them out there. Granville Island (BC), Big Rock (Alberta), and Unibroue (Quebec) have some good varieties too. As for local stuff, I have no idea if it's any good but you could check out Half Pints and Fort Garry. In terms of finding more exotic beers, try The Cavalier Inn or Luxalune. I am assuming that you live in/near Winnipeg.

Good luck!

Chinston Wurchill fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Jul 7, 2012

Wizbro
Jul 6, 2012

Chinston Wurchill posted:

Sleeman's is probably the best of the widely distributed Canadian beers. Mill St. and Steamwhistle (Ontario) are good if you can get them out there. Granville Island (BC), Big Rock (Alberta), and Unibroue (Quebec) have some good varieties too. As for local stuff, I have no idea if it's any good but you could check out Half Pints and Fort Garry. In terms of finding more exotic beers, try The Cavalier Inn or Luxalune. I am assuming that you live in/near Winnipeg.

Good luck!

Thank for the help! Both replies. I picked up a few Sleeman's Honey Brown Larger for tonight. I am enjoying it fully. I've tried Fort Garry because of the local loyalty to it but I didn't really like it. You gave me a good list to try out though.

(I do live in/near Winnipeg)

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Munkaboo posted:

Infected Blue Mountain Dark Hollow from my 2009 bottle and the newest 2012 batch :(

Beware VA buyers.

drat, that sucks on the 09. had the current batch on tap and thought it was fine, but haven't popped a bottle yet. the bad Isabel bottles were taken back by the distributor, but i only saw one complaint of "strong chemical off flavors" outside of that.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Holy poo poo Stone Ruination 10th Anniversary is exceptional. I've got all of the hops in my mouth right now. All of them.

DrFrankenStrudel
May 14, 2012

Where am I? I don't even know anymore...
My current favorite drinking beer right now is the Ipswich(massachusetts) Oatmeal Stout. I've had oatmeal stout before, but this one is something else. It's also reasonably priced in that $12ish for a 12 pack range>

On a somewhat unrelated note, I finally broke down and bought a 22oz Bomber of Arrogant Bastard Ale ($6 each). It easily has the most complex hop-character that I've ever tasted outside a beer festival/convention, I was quite impressed, though at the price tag I'm not sure if I'll be drinking significant quantities of it.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

Munkaboo posted:

Frangelic mountain for $21? No thanks Westover Market.

If it's over $15 here I probably won't buy it. I think I'm done buying $20+ bottles for now, I say this fully knowing I recently bought two Fruet's blindly. It just doesn't make sense to me when I have so many things to spend money on in real life that I've been blowing the money on expensive beer for whatever reason. I think I can live without some of the $15+ bombers for a while.

I say this as I enjoyed the heck out of a few Blue Moons at my buddy's house last night. He's generally a Coors Light drinker, but he's exploring slowly into craft beer so he made the transition to Blue Moon. If nothing more, Blue Moon is a great transition beer and it's not terrible, next time though I'm going to bring him a 4 pack of Allagash White to see how he feels about that.

Edit: Frangelic Mountain Brown was only $12.49, snagged one.

Midorka fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Jul 8, 2012

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
That's usually the witbier progression that I have people follow. Nine out of ten end up loving Allagash and start exploring more on their own when they realize beer can taste like anything, really. Granted, recommending beer to people will always be an individualized process.

FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Jul 8, 2012

Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

FreelanceSocialist posted:

That's usually the witbier progression that I have people follow. Nine out of ten end up loving Allagash and start exploring more on their own when they realize beer can taste like anything, really. Granted, recommending beer to people will always be an individualized process.

It's amazing seeing the look on somebody's face after they've had a Jolly Pumpkin beer for the first time. Granted, sometimes people aren't fans, but I've won over a lot of people who don't like beer with Jolly Pumpkin and farmhouse saisons in general.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.
Having a Harpoon Raspberry UFO; it's heavy on the raspberry tartness & light on the stereotypical hefeweizen profile. Luckily, it's not too sweet either, which is a relief. I hate when fruit beers taste like straight up candy. Pretty refreshing summer beer overall.

Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

I guess I should have served my Saison Brett to my wife in a plastic tumbler. She took one drink, saw the yeast, then handed the glass to me. She thought it was an interesting flavor, but couldn't get over the floating yeast. She's now drinking a Zon. I havent broken the news about Unfiltered Wheat to her yet.

Oh well. More Saison for me.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Cracked a Stoudt's DIPA. Malty and tons of alcohol. Finish is pleasant, a little creamy, pretty subdued for a DIPA. gently caress does it have heat, though.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.
I have no idea what to make of this Two Brothers beer, Pillar of Salt. The nose is odd somewhat chalky and dry reminding me a tad of play-doh even with only hints of citrus and no noticeable spice from the rye. The body is very bready, but also has that chalky play-doh and citrus and a rye spice only on the finish. I don't particularly like this, but I don't dislike it.

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get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Phanatic posted:

Dogfish Head managed to inadvertently make a pretty good beer. I tried Positive Contact on draft yesterday. It's supposed to be a beer/cider hybrid, based on a 9% witbier but made with Fuji apples, roasted farro, cayenne peppers, and cilantro.

You can't taste *any* of that stuff, except the apples, which make it taste like a pretty decent tripel and nothing like a wit. If you wanted to make a tripel I'm not sure why you wouldn't just make a tripel instead of making an imperial wit and adding a bunch of weird poo poo to it, but at least it tastes good in the end.
Because Dogfish Head's beers, especially their music-themed beers like this one, have that "let's throw a whole bunch of poo poo in and see if it works" philosophy behind it. I personally like their beers, but they're definitely the most gimmicky brewery out there. With that said, I should seek out the Positive Contact, which sounds like a step up from Faithfull Ale (I never had it but I heard it was disappointing).

By the way, my Ithaca 14th Anniversary Ale at the 4th of July party was a success. I loved it and two other people loved it, and the host would have loved it if he were more of a hophead. It's a black ale with lots of hoppiness and finishes like a stout.

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