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UnquietDream posted:I finished Long Earth yesterday and I'm still digesting it, there were a few moments of hyper-characterisation as in 'quick we have to convey that these people are British in a way every reader will get, shove everything remotely connotes British into them'. But other than that I enjoyed it, but it's something that's so open to a sequel that without one it seems almost a lesser work. By that I mean that they introduce a lot of interesting concepts which I feel weren't fully explored within the book and would benefit from more in-depth analysis which by necessity would require revisiting the world. I'm inclined to agree with that assessment. There's a lot of setup, but not a great deal of plot. It puts me in mind of Dante's Inferno, actually - it's not about what you see so much as about the journey.
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I haven't read it yet, but I picked up a copy and I'm pretty sure the blurb on the dust jacket mentions that it's the start of a new series, doesn't it?
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Jul 6, 2012 08:54
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At the very least it's part one of a two part (for now) series. There's plenty of room (lol) for more stuff in the same setting.
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Jul 6, 2012 17:46
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UnquietDream posted:I finished Long Earth yesterday and I'm still digesting it, there were a few moments of hyper-characterisation as in 'quick we have to convey that these people are British in a way every reader will get, shove everything remotely connotes British into them'. But other than that I enjoyed it, but it's something that's so open to a sequel that without one it seems almost a lesser work. By that I mean that they introduce a lot of interesting concepts which I feel weren't fully explored within the book and would benefit from more in-depth analysis which by necessity would require revisiting the world. Haven't read it yet, but I'd swear I heard that's exactly what it was ; the first in a series of collaborations between the two authors. E: f, b
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Jul 6, 2012 21:51
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Yeah I'm dumb, checked out the dust jacket and it does say 'The Long Earth is the first novel in an exciting new collaboration between the creator of Discworld Terry Pratchett and the acclaimed SF writer Stephen Baxter'
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Jul 7, 2012 15:37
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I really hope Pratchett has The Last Discworld novel already planned out. He's already making plans for his own death, so I could see him being an author making the effort to have a grande finale that really IS a grande finale with no possibility of the author having a change of heart.
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Jul 7, 2012 16:15
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Mister Roboto posted:I really hope Pratchett has The Last Discworld novel already planned out. He's already making plans for his own death, so I could see him being an author making the effort to have a grande finale that really IS a grande finale with no possibility of the author having a change of heart. If I were writing a brilliant, brilliant Discworld show for HBO a-la Game Of Thrones I'd have started by fixing The Last Hero as the finale and work backwards from there. It just works so well, and it's even got one of those great final lines that Pterry's normally so hit and miss about.
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Jul 7, 2012 21:58
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An HBO show about the City Watch, done as one of those sprawling, ensemble-focused series that HBO is so good at (like True Blood, The Wire, The Sopranos, and Game of Thrones) would own all of the bones.
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Jul 7, 2012 22:41
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Mister Roboto posted:I really hope Pratchett has The Last Discworld novel already planned out. He's already making plans for his own death, so I could see him being an author making the effort to have a grande finale that really IS a grande finale with no possibility of the author having a change of heart. Nilbop posted:If I were writing a brilliant, brilliant Discworld show for HBO a-la Game Of Thrones I'd have started by fixing The Last Hero as the finale and work backwards from there. It just works so well, and it's even got one of those great final lines that Pterry's normally so hit and miss about. Yeah, The Last Hero is pretty much the final discworld novel. No need to gently caress with that. It's got all a brilliant theme of despair to it, and then, right at the end, it's hopeful. "Are you dead or not?" she said. Cohen scanned the snow. "Well, the way I see it, we don't think we are; so why should we care what anyone else thinks? We never have. Ready, Hamish? Then follow me, boys!" Oh, and just before that is one of my favorite lines from any discworld novel: "I ain't dead!" roared Mad Hamish. "I'll knock any man doon as tells me a'm dead!" Elector_Nerdlingen fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Jul 7, 2012 |
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Jul 7, 2012 23:40
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Mister Roboto posted:I really hope Pratchett has The Last Discworld novel already planned out. He's already making plans for his own death, so I could see him being an author making the effort to have a grande finale that really IS a grande finale with no possibility of the author having a change of heart. I don't really know if I'd want a Last Novel. It's not like the stories had a beginning to start with. I'm pretty sure that's been a theme in several of the books; no ends, no beginnings, just people and things that happen to them.
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Jul 8, 2012 00:07
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Pope Guilty posted:An HBO show about the City Watch, done as one of those sprawling, ensemble-focused series that HBO is so good at (like True Blood, The Wire, The Sopranos, and Game of Thrones) would own all of the bones. There's already plans for a City Watch TV series.
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Jul 8, 2012 01:13
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As morbid as it sounds, when Terry finally decides to go, I kind of hope he's buried with a sign that says "I ATEN'T DEAD" on his chest. Because as long as we have his books, he never will be. 
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Jedit posted:There's already plans for a City Watch TV series. Well, if it's HBO, I hope they keep the nudity down to Pratchett levels. The only tits in the City Watch should be Nobby and Colon.
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precision posted:As morbid as it sounds, when Terry finally decides to go, I kind of hope he's buried with a sign that says "I ATEN'T DEAD" on his chest. Or his gravestone is just a big marble obelisk with a stonecarving of a little wooden sign saying the above. Oh my God I feel morbid now.
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Jul 8, 2012 05:19
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Nilbop posted:If I were writing a brilliant, brilliant Discworld show for HBO a-la Game Of Thrones I'd have started by fixing The Last Hero as the finale and work backwards from there. It just works so well, and it's even got one of those great final lines that Pterry's normally so hit and miss about. Haha, I said that exact same thing like months ago in this very thread. It's funny to see your own opinion given back to you. The Last Hero really does work as a finale, ESPECIALLY as it manages to incorporate elements of the first Discworld books into the modern stylings.
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Jul 8, 2012 05:29
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Mister Roboto posted:Haha, I said that exact same thing like months ago in this very thread. It's funny to see your own opinion given back to you. It was actually your post that made me go back to TLH and look at it in that light and find that it just works perfectly!
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Wolfechu posted:Well, if it's HBO, I hope they keep the nudity down to Pratchett levels. The only tits in the City Watch should be Nobby and Colon. Not sure we've read the same novels, since you seem to be forgetting Captain "finds time to be naked in almost every book" Angua.
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Jul 8, 2012 15:33
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Mr. Moon posted:Not sure we've read the same novels, since you seem to be forgetting Captain "finds time to be naked in almost every book" Angua. Time for a watchman nude scene listing: Angua Vimes Sally Carrot (off camera) Dorfl Honorary guest star Ridcully
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Jul 8, 2012 15:43
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Carrot was nude on-camera in Men at Arms too.
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Jul 8, 2012 16:09
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I'm sure HBO could find plenty of excuses to get Sally and Angua naked. Also exposition scenes where Moist talks through his latest plans while Adora gets dressed. Basically cast Iain Glen as Moist is where I'm going with that because it would be great.
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Jul 8, 2012 18:37
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Chris Hemsworth for Carrot please, if nudity becomes a prerequisite.
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Jul 8, 2012 18:58
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precision posted:I'm sure HBO could find plenty of excuses to get Sally and Angua naked. Iain Glen is 15-20 years too old for Moist. He'd be a good Vimes though. Hemsworth wouldn't be a bad choice for Carrot actually. He looks the part, the only thing is that little pause he does before he talks where you just know it's the body waiting for the blood to reach all the important bits.
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Jul 8, 2012 19:02
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Iain Glen is basically what Vimes looks like in my head.
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Jul 8, 2012 19:14
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I'm retarded, I had Iain Glen confused with Aidan Gillen. Littlefinger as Moist is where I was going with that. I'm just gonna say what we're all thinking: Peter Dinklage as Cheery Littlebottom. Jerome Flynn (Bronn) as Nobby, OF COURSE. And whoever played King Robert as Fred Colon. Ugh I hate that this will never happen.
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Jul 8, 2012 19:26
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Alan Rickman as Captain Carrot.
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John Malkovich as the vampire news photographer. Dwayne Johnson as Sgt. Detritus. Your move. 
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FactsAreUseless posted:Alan Rickman as Captain Carrot. Alan Rickman as Vetinari. Or get Jeremy Irons to do it again. Jeremy Iron's Vetinary was the bee's knees.
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Jul 9, 2012 08:18
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Iacen posted:Alan Rickman as Vetinari. Or get Jeremy Irons to do it again. Jeremy Iron's Vetinary was the bee's knees. I always liked Charles Dance's Vetinari in Going Postal.
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Jul 9, 2012 08:24
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Iacen posted:Alan Rickman as Vetinari. Or get Jeremy Irons to do it again. Jeremy Iron's Vetinary was the bee's knees.
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FactsAreUseless posted:No. For, say, a Men at Arms movie I'd get Patrick Warburton to play Vetinari. Going off how he played Puddy in Seinfeld, this would actually work pretty drat well. Except the high-fives.
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Vetinari: A gaunt, thin, snake-like figure. Puddy: A big beefy guy who looks vaguely like Superman might look if he let himself go. Seems fitting.
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Mister Roboto posted:Vetinari: A gaunt, thin, snake-like figure. I meant his deadpan demeanor. Obviously the physicality is off, but the way Warburton can deadpan a "That's right" with an implied "Now get out of my office"... look, dammit, it's a metaphor, all right?!
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Peter Dinklage as Cheery and Warburton as Vetinari? Reverse that and use camera tricks on Warburton to make him look shorter and then you're talking.
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Iacen posted:Jeremy Iron's Vetinary was the bee's knees. Jeremy Irons' portrayal was pretty abysmal, to be honest. I like the idea that he was imitating Terry's voice, but you can't sound even vaguely threatening like that. Charles Dance loving owned at it.
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Jul 9, 2012 18:05
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Christopher Walken could pull off a Vetinari. Well, maybe he's a bit TOO creepy and gaunt.
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Jul 9, 2012 18:06
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We haven't heard anything about the Terry Jones watch TV series for over a year, have we? I hope it hasn't died quietly.
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The_Doctor posted:Jeremy Irons' portrayal was pretty abysmal, to be honest. I like the idea that he was imitating Terry's voice, but you can't sound even vaguely threatening like that. Charles Dance loving owned at it. I really couldn't take him seriously after he called Rincewind a "little scamp" or whatever it was. There's no universe in which Vetinari would use those words in that order, ever.
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Jeremy Irons without the glasses is how I imagine Vetenari to look in my head, But Charles Dance, is how I imagine him to act and sound. And while she didn't do alot in Going Postal, I thought that Ingrid Bolsų Berdal made a pretty decent looking Angua:  She's got that slightly feral look about her, and that sharp gaze. Since reading that Kidby based his version of Vimes off Clint Eastwood, I can't not picture him as a slightly younger Eastwood. Mel Smith for Colon, I have no idea for Nobbs. Or for Carrot. And Christopher Lee for Death. That heavy graven voice, falling like slabs. YES.
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Pesky Splinter posted:Jeremy Irons without the glasses is how I imagine Vetenari to look in my head, This I can agree with. Jeremy Irons' look was absolutely spot on, but I seem to recall him lisping a bit? Anyway, while Dance's mannerisms were much more on the spot (One of the best things about Going Postal), I can't shake Irons' version. Anyway, I looked to see if I could find something about the Watch series and instead found this on Wiki: quote:Terry Pratchett's Unseen Academicals is a proposed two-part television adaptation of the book of the same name by Terry Pratchett to be produced by The Mob, which will be first broadcast on Sky1, and in high definition on Sky1 HD. Filming was set to take place in 2011; however, filming has been postponed and will be broadcast in 2013 instead. I hadn't heard that before, I think.
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Pesky Splinter posted:Jeremy Irons without the glasses is how I imagine Vetenari to look in my head, Basically this, yeah. Though I thought he was said at some point to have black hair and a black goatee?
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