|
Ever since Google disabled GPU acceleration in a Chrome update I haven't had any more kernel panics
|
#
?
Jul 8, 2012 19:52
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 14, 2024 11:57 |
|
|
My TB display does that, but it's only occasional, like once a day occasional. If it only happens while watching HSN it might be the display trying to kill itself.
|
|
#
?
Jul 8, 2012 19:55
|
|
|
Ask Me About Loom posted:http://unreal-designs.net/AppleBytes/?p=164 when i try to install it tells me "you do not need this update"
|
|
#
?
Jul 8, 2012 21:03
|
|
|
I have a early 2011 15in MBP and I really need a HDD upgrade for storage. Will I have to do anything special with the 128GB SSD which has a partition for Windows 7? Or hopefully, I will just be able to buy a 500GB HDD and pop it in and both Mac/Windows will automatically detect it as a new drive.
|
|
#
?
Jul 8, 2012 21:59
|
|
|
Sean_Miller posted:I have a early 2011 15in MBP and I really need a HDD upgrade for storage. Will I have to do anything special with the 128GB SSD which has a partition for Windows 7? Or hopefully, I will just be able to buy a 500GB HDD and pop it in and both Mac/Windows will automatically detect it as a new drive.
|
|
#
?
Jul 8, 2012 22:30
|
|
|
japtor posted:If both OSes will be using it for storage, if you don't want to be using any extra software (to read the other OSes format) your only choice is formatting it ExFAT (or plain old FAT, but that sucks). You could split it up 50/50. Both OSes can read (but not write) the other's format.
|
|
#
?
Jul 8, 2012 22:57
|
|
|
Since I hardly use Windows 7 I will be using the storage for Mac. I still haven't upgraded to Lion yet.
|
|
#
?
Jul 8, 2012 22:58
|
|
|
I have a high end early 15" 2011 macbook pro, is it worth it to upgrade to retina? I don't have an SSD so that is mostly my motivation for wanting to upgrade, other than the beautiful screen of course..
|
|
#
?
Jul 8, 2012 23:40
|
|
|
damaca posted:Thanks for that. Will see about this tomorrow.
|
|
#
?
Jul 8, 2012 23:41
|
|
|
Bastard Priest posted:I have a high end early 15" 2011 macbook pro, is it worth it to upgrade to retina? I don't have an SSD so that is mostly my motivation for wanting to upgrade, other than the beautiful screen of course.. Do you want insanely sharp fonts in a handful of apps and screen tearing and other issues until who knows when?
|
|
#
?
Jul 8, 2012 23:41
|
|
|
Bastard Priest posted:I have a high end early 15" 2011 macbook pro, is it worth it to upgrade to retina? I don't have an SSD so that is mostly my motivation for wanting to upgrade, other than the beautiful screen of course.. Just buy an SSD
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 00:15
|
|
|
Bastard Priest posted:I have a high end early 15" 2011 macbook pro, is it worth it to upgrade to retina? I don't have an SSD so that is mostly my motivation for wanting to upgrade, other than the beautiful screen of course.. no
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 00:39
|
|
|
Sonic Dude posted:AlphaDog and damaca, it sounds like you both have the REP issue (if you have the 15" model). There's a 4-5 minute test that any Apple Store or AASP can run for you to confirm (referred to as "VST," in case you get a new person or someone who hasn't done it before). Sonic Dude posted:It's free if that's the issue. And if it's not covered in beer. Yeah, that's what I thought too. We took it to an Apple Store and waited for nearly 3 hours when they were "testing" it. It "failed" a graphics-related test, and they said that couldn't possibly be true, so they got a few other people to come and test it again (3 or 4 times) until it "passed", then said they'd hold on to it "for more testing". A few days later, they returned it saying that they "could not replicate the issue" and therefore there was nothing wrong with it. Apparently they didn't read the error logs, and they didn't take the printouts that I'd brought with me. I'm pretty disgusted by the whole situation, to be perfectly honest. What was the test it "failed" multiple times before "passing"? Why do you even do a test if you're going to keep repeating it until it miraculously says all is well? Why couldn't they replicate the well-documented issue? Why did they not want to read/keep the error reports I printed for them (which all pointed to the same issue)? If that was because they'd read the error log, then having read the error log, why would they say "it's fine"? I'm guessing that it was because it was nearly at the end of the REP period and given that she got pissed off and waited a few weeks before doing anything further, that period has now expired. Elector_Nerdlingen fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Jul 9, 2012 |
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 00:39
|
|
|
I have a G4 and G5 running 10.5.8. I'd like to use Bluetooth mice with both of them but I don't care for any of the apple ones. My main concern is lag. Do I have to worry about which BT adapter I get with respect to lag? How about mice? Are all 3rd party BT mice laggier than apple's? Or will there always be noticeable lag regardless of what adapter/mouse I use?
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 00:43
|
|
|
I had a decent experience a while back with this Logitech but it seems like everyone besides Apple is cutting corners in design and firmware. It doesn't feel as good as a wired or dongle mouse. If you need a dongle anyway, maybe get one of the non-bluetooth ones. Licensing the bluetooth standard apparently costs enough that companies will put out fewer products and fewer revisions that use them. Honestly, good wired mice are dirt cheap, they feel as good if not better and they last longer.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 00:53
|
|
|
AlphaDog posted:Yeah, that's what I thought too. It's possible you could be covered, further reading through the public Apple documentation shows this repair is covered for two years from purchase date as seen here: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS4088?locale=en_US but that's for the US, I'm not sure about Australia. These are the three symptoms Apple lists for this specific issue: • The computer intermittently stops displaying video on the built-in display or on an external display, resulting in a black or gray screen • The computer's display intermittently hangs/freezes • The computer experiences random/intermittent shutdown I also thought you were the guy with beer in his computer but that does not seem to be the case. I'd recommend escalating your issue to their Lead Genius, and not one of their managers because the managers don't know what the gently caress to do about this kind of stuff and would just make the Lead do all the legwork anyway. If it fails VST and if you're out of the two year mark, if there was documentation made of the symptom under warranty then there is a 45 day period where a repair can still be performed and covered by Apple after the two year mark ends. 1997 fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Jul 9, 2012 |
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 00:55
|
|
|
I'm a big fan of wired mice but in this case it's not really what I want. I'm game to at least try out a few to know for sure. Just wanted some insight on where to start.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 00:56
|
|
|
1997 posted:It's possible you could be covered, further reading through the public Apple documentation shows this repair is covered for two years from purchase date as seen here: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS4088?locale=en_US but that's for the US, I'm not sure about Australia. OK, I'll probably try that for her then. It's doing all those things, and doing them more frequently as time passes. It might be out of the REP period and also out of the 45 day period by now though. Like I said, she cracked the shits with them completely, so she didn't try to escalate at the time. I think the fact that we watched it fail a test a few times and then were told that there was nothing wrong with it is what pushed her that tiny bit too far. I'll try again with them, but she's pretty much decided on a PC now anyway - she bought the macbook because of past experience with Apple's reliability and service, and her confidence in that is now completely shot. Also, she/we can't afford a computer that expensive these days, and she no longer needs a laptop. Of course, if we can get it fixed under REP and then sell it, that's a way better option than selling it as-is (neither of us are dishonest enough to as to try to pass it off as working perfectly). Edit: Either way, if we get more than $500-600 for it, that's a new desktop PC that will do everything she wants, and that I can maintain and upgrade. I should say here that I by no means dislike Macs, and I was even considering a desktop Mac about a year ago, before realising I just didn't have the money. Elector_Nerdlingen fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Jul 9, 2012 |
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 01:21
|
|
|
AlphaDog posted:Yeah, that's what I thought too. I went through this runaround with a bad Mac Mini for months. Constant freezes and kernel panics and they wouldn't fix poo poo because they couldn't figure out what was wrong with it. Without a specific hardware issue to point to, they consider it a software error and that's "not our problem" (yes, even when you point out to them it's their drat software, too!). If you're in California or a state with similar warranty laws, it may not matter if the warranty period expired; if you brought the machine in with that issue before the warranty ended and they failed to fix it, you are probably still covered until they do. You can try calling AppleCare and escalating the issue up the chain, but that didn't help me at all. What will help you most is if you can pin down some way to quickly and consistently reproduce the freeze/panic/crash every time. Once you have that, and it's reproducible even after a clean install and/or network boot from a known good system at the Genious Bar, they'll have to acknowledge it. (I eventually got my Mini replaced when I discovered it couldn't connect to certain wifi networks at all.)
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 01:29
|
|
|
Shaocaholica posted:I have a G4 and G5 running 10.5.8. I'd like to use Bluetooth mice with both of them but I don't care for any of the apple ones. My main concern is lag. Do I have to worry about which BT adapter I get with respect to lag? How about mice? Are all 3rd party BT mice laggier than apple's? Or will there always be noticeable lag regardless of what adapter/mouse I use? Like fleshweasel says, I'd just go with one of the Logitech RF mice and don't look back. I got an M505 on sale for only $20, and Staples has all of the M3XX line on sale for the same price; their RF technology feels much more responsive than Apple's implementation of Bluetooth and it works OOTB. You don't need to install Logitech Control Center software unless you like random kernel panics. FWIW I used to spec out Logitech's own Bluetooth mouse with a recharger cradle (that lit up when you put the mouse in, ooooh) in one studio and none of the artists used it (although they specifically asked for it because they saw it in MacWorld) because they said it was too jumpy. And this was with iMac G5s with their built-in Bluetooth.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 01:34
|
|
|
Choadmaster posted:I went through this runaround with a bad Mac Mini for months. Constant freezes and kernel panics and they wouldn't fix poo poo because they couldn't figure out what was wrong with it. Without a specific hardware issue to point to, they consider it a software error and that's "not our problem" (yes, even when you point out to them it's their drat software, too!). Yeah, that sounds familiar. I'm in Australia, but our warranty laws are pretty good, so I guess we might be OK. I'm trying to phrase this question in the least confrontational way possible, because I'm not a Mac user and I don't understand: Does OSX not have some sort of error logging they could look at and say "gently caress, yeah, there's the problem right there, it was X"? I would think that would be easy enough to do if you always knew exactly what hardware was in there.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 01:42
|
|
|
Thanks BB and FW. Any good review sites that test wireless mice with emphasis on lag? For some reason I got the impression that BT was more responsive than dongle-RF.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 01:53
|
|
|
AlphaDog posted:
Most Mac Genius' ignore the Console logs for the vast majority of issues, and rely on the internal ASD testing. (takes X hours to complete and gives specific errors) then they we can say 'oh hey, RAM failed, time to replace that' or whatever. Not sure why you're being given the run around. Just curious, which store are you taking your machine to? (you can PM me if you'd prefer).
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 01:55
|
|
|
AlphaDog posted:Yeah, that sounds familiar. I'm in Australia, but our warranty laws are pretty good, so I guess we might be OK. Logs are compiled from various sources around the system in Utilities/Console.app. Not sure if the issue will appear, but it's worth checking out.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 01:55
|
|
|
I think I hosed up. I tried to upgrade the RAM on my 2011 Macbook Pro and now it wont power on. The battery test light doesn't work, if I plug it in the light on the adapter is very dim and if I put the old RAM back in it still doesn't turn back on. I got nothing. Anyone know how I can fix this? Edit: GOT IT! I did a power reset on the thing, just unplugged the battery from the motherboard. It's working now with my RAM upgrade. BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Jul 9, 2012 |
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 02:20
|
|
|
BigRed0427 posted:I think I hosed up. Are you sure you're pushing the RAM in all the way? I've probably swapped RAM a hundred times and never had a problem. But if it's your first time you just might not have it in right.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 02:34
|
|
|
AlphaDog posted:Yeah, that's what I thought too. Not sure why they didn't just accept the failure that it showed in the first place (unless the manager said they were covering too many repairs or something else stupid), but it's not unheard of for people to just run that test 500 times and see how it goes.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 03:43
|
|
|
Who here has the rMBP? Got mine a few days ago and I'm pretty bummed out by how laggy/choppy it feels. Is anyone running ML on theirs/does that make it better? My 2011 MBP is a better experience at this point, and as good as the retina screen looks it isn't worth a laggy UI.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 05:02
|
|
|
I've been on the MBPr for about a week after it was announce, and I haven't had any of the choppiness. If it means anything, it's plugged in most of the time. However, Chrome has caused 2 kernel panics for me. Not as bad as my Hackintosh, and with a SSD and how Lion auto restores, I'm back up in like 15 seconds anyways.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 05:31
|
|
|
Sonic Dude posted:It's probably no consolation, but the VST is terrible and barely works - that's why they ran it multiple times. I can't empty quote, but this would be worth it. To contribute, the issue is a pain, because intermittent issues are drat hard to replicate. VST tho was a very quickly put together test, and it shows.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 05:51
|
|
|
Sonic Dude posted:AlphaDog and damaca, it sounds like you both have the REP issue (if you have the 15" model). There's a 4-5 minute test that any Apple Store or AASP can run for you to confirm (referred to as "VST," in case you get a new person or someone who hasn't done it before). Just came back from the AASP. Predictably, they had no idea what the VST was, even after showing them this thread and various google searches referencing it. Is there proper documentation I can refer to for this process? I can find people referencing the test, but not from Apple. They wanted $99 just to test the machine using ASD and 'have a look around inside'  Is VST available somewhere so I can download and run it myelf? EDIT: I can find the ASD easily enough. Perhaps I will give that a go as well. damaca fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Jul 9, 2012 |
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 06:01
|
|
|
Try going to a different Apple Store if you can. I avoid one of the stores in my city because they are known for bad service. Anyone in San Francisco: gently caress the one in the Stonestown mall. Go to the one at Chestnut St. Great service and not always mega packed like the one on Stockton.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 06:16
|
|
|
Could try the last resort "email the CEO" trick, Tim Cook's is tcook@apple.com apparently (or at least is one of the aliases), or the new head retail guy, have to take a wild guess on his email though.fleshweasel posted:I had a decent experience a while back with this Logitech but it seems like everyone besides Apple is cutting corners in design and firmware. It doesn't feel as good as a wired or dongle mouse. If you need a dongle anyway, maybe get one of the non-bluetooth ones. Licensing the bluetooth standard apparently costs enough that companies will put out fewer products and fewer revisions that use them. Honestly, good wired mice are dirt cheap, they feel as good if not better and they last longer. But yeah the safest/easiest thing is to just get one of their RF ones if you need wireless.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 09:50
|
|
|
grahm posted:Who here has the rMBP? I've recently installed the latest Mountain Lion Dev Preview on it and the performance is slightly better than Lion when using it at the native or the scaled 1680x1050 modes, although it's a bit choppier at 1920x1200 (unsurprising since it's rendering the desktop at 3840x2400 and scaling it back down to 2880x1800). There's still a few things that need tweaking in ML so I wouldn't be surprised to see increased performance in the final release.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 11:47
|
|
|
grahm posted:Who here has the rMBP? Mine's been perfectly fine, and I've been using both the 1680x1050 mode and 1920x1200 mode. Doesn't feel any slower than my 2009 MBP. I also don't use Chrome. however I am using Mountain Lion dev previews so that could have something to do with it 
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 13:09
|
|
|
Any Ontario goons have any experience dealing with Jump+? Rumor has it one is opening nearby and I'm in a region with no actual Apple retail stores (Future Shop being the closest reseller-only) and trying to decide if it's something to be happy about or if it's not a gamechanger at all.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 13:12
|
|
|
Mercurius posted:Have you got all the updates from software update? Mine was a bit choppy when I first took it out of the box but after a few rounds of updates and reboots it's pretty close to how my 2011 MBP was. Normally I despise Safari, but I've been running the beta on Lion (on the rMBP) and I think it's actually good enough, finally, that I don't immediately jump to Chrome to do everything. I do still have the Chrome dev channel installed (at least until the Retina awareness hits beta or stable) just in case I need it though.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 17:25
|
|
mediaphage posted:Normally I despise Safari, but I've been running the beta on Lion (on the rMBP) and I think it's actually good enough, finally, that I don't immediately jump to Chrome to do everything. I do still have the Chrome dev channel installed (at least until the Retina awareness hits beta or stable) just in case I need it though. What don't you like about Safari? I've noticed a lot of people don't use it and I'm curious as to why. I like how simple it is without being clunky. I have noticed that if left unattended it seems to grow out of control as far as memory usage though. I typically leave a lot of pdf articles up in tabs and over time it will really eat the hell out of my memory. I was never a fan of chrome but it seems to be the browser of choice these days for most of you users. Is it just that much more compact?
|
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 17:48
|
|
|
I use it because the auto-update system is good, has a wider selection of extensions, a better security record, and better security defaults (like click-to-run Java during the whole Flashback debacle). In addition, out of third party browsers, they'll never be able to match Safari in nativeness but they try really hard.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 18:39
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 14, 2024 11:57 |
|
|
Regarding the laggy UI of the Retina MBP: Could this be happening when it switches to the integrated Intel graphics? Maybe someone can try that gfxcardstatus app and force it to always use the discrete card.
|
|
#
?
Jul 9, 2012 19:05
|
|