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DontMockMySmock
Aug 9, 2008

I got this title for the dumbest fucking possible take on sea shanties. Specifically, I derailed the meme thread because sailors in the 18th century weren't woke enough for me, and you shouldn't sing sea shanties. In fact, don't have any fun ever.

JesusSinfulHands posted:

If only the antediluvian wizarding population realized the wonders of :siren: Free Porn :siren: on the Internet.

I wonder how much of this she thought of beforehand, and how much is retroactive "poo poo, I have to find some way to justify why there are wizarding radios and cars, but no TV or internet".

I thought the answer was quite clear - wizards are eighty years behind on their technology. TV and Internet just haven't trickled into their world yet.

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Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

quote:

Though hotly denied by subsequent generations, there is ample evidence to suggest that the first Lucius Malfoy was an unsuccessful aspirant to the hand of Elizabeth I, and some wizarding historians allege that the Queen's subsequent opposition to marriage was due to a jinx placed upon her by the thwarted Malfoy.

Wanna read that fanfic SO BAD :allears:

e: That's really what the HP fanfiction community needs: more historical works, less Snape-sex and its ilk.

Pththya-lyi fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Jul 11, 2012

HeavnlyJelybean
Oct 18, 2004

:byodame: nice job, hero!
I just friend requested a bunch of people who were listed a few pages back, so if you see a request from RiverWombat96, that's me!

AwesomePossum
Dec 12, 2009

ShardPhoenix posted:

Anyone who's a fan of Harry Potter and just a little bit of a 'sperger (this means you) should read Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality. It's arguably better written than the original series and twice as awesome.

Had me by the first chapter, will enjoy reading this.

On topic, I never read any of the books until this January. I enjoyed the hell out of the movies, thought they were great. Just never got around to reading any of the books.

Honestly, wish I hadn't sometimes, she writes angsty emo teenage twats very well.

Bad Wolf
Apr 7, 2007
Without evil there could be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometime !

AwesomePossum posted:

On topic, I never read any of the books until this January. I enjoyed the hell out of the movies, thought they were great. Just never got around to reading any of the books.

For me, this is the best way to enjoy works that have been made into movies. I saw the Lord of the Rings movies before I read the books, and the same with Harry Potter. Seeing the movies first means you won't get annoyed or confused by stuff like "Why did they change that?" or "Why did they leave this out?". By reading the books after seeing the movies, you get to enjoy how much more story you find and how richer the fictional world is. The other way around, no matter how good or faithful the movie adaptation is, you'll miss the stuff they have to leave out due to story flow, time constraints etc.

I'm actually kinda bummed I've already read "The Hobbit" because of that.

Edit : For example, If I had read HP first, I'd be constantly asking myself when watching the movies "OK, but where is Peeves? He was awesome!"

Blight
Jan 17, 2011
But when you read the books first you get the freedom to picture everything yourself, instead of what the moviemakers tell you to think. That's my favourite thing about reading.

Seeing the movie after the book is still fun, seeing if others had the same view on the book as you. That is not often the case, but then you get to enjoy a new way of looking at it.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Bad Wolf posted:

Edit : For example, If I had read HP first, I'd be constantly asking myself when watching the movies "OK, but where is Peeves? He was awesome!"

Not having Peeves in the movies sucked if for no other reason than the Weasley twins leaving Hogwarts was just SO much better in the book (not to sound like that guy cause I love the movies). The part where the Weasley twins go "GIVE HER HELL FOR US PEEVES!" and then he salutes them is so good. Them leaving was just not done as well in the movie. Not having Peeves also meant that great little scene where McGonagall tells Peeves to turn the screw the other way to undo the chandelier (to gently caress with Umbridge) wasn't in the movie either.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
They chose an actor for him and everything, it was going to be Rik Mayall.

thebardyspoon fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Jul 12, 2012

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

thebardyspoon posted:

They chose an actor for him and everything, was going to be Rik Mayall.

WOOF - oh that crazy Lord Flashheart

Eggnogium
Jun 1, 2010

Never give an inch! Hnnnghhhhhh!
I also recently read the books and watched the movie for the first time, and I'm wondering if it was ever explained by the movie producers why Hagrid was completely absent from the battle of Hogwarts. Was he just unavailable for shooting that month? It's not like they were squeezed for time, they could have taken out of all the screentime they gave Flitwick.

Blight
Jan 17, 2011

Eggnogium posted:

I also recently read the books and watched the movie for the first time, and I'm wondering if it was ever explained by the movie producers why Hagrid was completely absent from the battle of Hogwarts. Was he just unavailable for shooting that month? It's not like they were squeezed for time, they could have taken out of all the screentime they gave Flitwick.

He was there, with his dog and giant-halfbrother. Later he was held capture by voldemort.

Eggnogium
Jun 1, 2010

Never give an inch! Hnnnghhhhhh!

Blight posted:

He was there, with his dog and giant-halfbrother. Later he was held capture by voldemort.

In the movie, and I'm not talking about directors cut or anything if that exists, his first appearance is in the forest after his capture, and the only giants we see are on Voldemort's side.

Bad Wolf
Apr 7, 2007
Without evil there could be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometime !

Blight posted:

He was there, with his dog and giant-halfbrother. Later he was held capture by voldemort.

I liked that bit in the book, if only because I couldn't help but think of The Simpsons.

"Agh, I have to save the wee spiders!"
"Agh, save me from the wee spiders!"

Blight
Jan 17, 2011

Bad Wolf posted:

I liked that bit in the book, if only because I couldn't help but think of The Simpsons.

"Agh, I have to save the wee spiders!"
"Agh, save me from the wee spiders!"

Yeah, me too. I love that Grawp just threw Hagrid through the window.

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.
Yam Slacker
My experience with the first three Harry Potter books and movies solidified my attitude toward all film adaptations: If I read or am familiar with the source material and/or have a positive attachment to them, I have no interest in the adaptations.

I can catch a few minutes or even most of a film on TV but it's almost background noise that I can turn off at any minute. I have no interest in going to a theater or buying/renting videos.

None of it compares to experience of reading.

TiltedAtWindmills
Sep 4, 2009
How did I watch all of the movies without noticing that Peeves was missing? :psyduck: What is wrong with me?

McFoxigator
Jun 13, 2011

Life is full of twicky decisions...

Blight posted:

But when you read the books first you get the freedom to picture everything yourself, instead of what the moviemakers tell you to think. That's my favourite thing about reading.

Seeing the movie after the book is still fun, seeing if others had the same view on the book as you. That is not often the case, but then you get to enjoy a new way of looking at it.

Agreed. I like to see how I think of things and then see how the directors think of things. I do love it when our ideas of a story link up. The Harry Potter movies looked almost exactly as I imagined they would. :allears:

GoodApollo
Jul 9, 2005

TiltedAtWindmills posted:

How did I watch all of the movies without noticing that Peeves was missing? :psyduck: What is wrong with me?

Wasn't he in the first two? Pretty sure he was at least in the first.

spixxor
Feb 4, 2009

TiltedAtWindmills posted:

How did I watch all of the movies without noticing that Peeves was missing? :psyduck: What is wrong with me?

Exactly what I was thinking. And I'm usually a nitpicker with book adaptation movies, too!

McFoxigator
Jun 13, 2011

Life is full of twicky decisions...

GoodApollo posted:

Wasn't he in the first two? Pretty sure he was at least in the first.

I think I remember him in the first one for sure. I seem to confuse my imagined version with the film version regarding the first two books just because of how long ago they were though.

Dopefish Lives!
Nov 27, 2004

Swim swim hungry

GoodApollo posted:

Wasn't he in the first two? Pretty sure he was at least in the first.

You might be thinking of Nearly Headless Nick, played by John Cleese, who was in the first two movies. I believe that they cast a British comedian to play Peeves and even filmed some scenes with him, but they ended up on the cutting room floor.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I'm pretty sure that he wasn't in the movies, based on the fact there are many Peeves scenes I am sure I would remember, and I can't remember any of them actually happening in the movies.

MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Dopefish Lives! posted:

You might be thinking of Nearly Headless Nick, played by John Cleese, who was in the first two movies. I believe that they cast a British comedian to play Peeves and even filmed some scenes with him, but they ended up on the cutting room floor.

They cast Rik Mayall as someone in the thread said earlier

He talks about it here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9pioZ9TQ9E

He would have been a pretty good fit.

cocoavalley
Dec 28, 2010

Well son, a funny thing about regret is that it's better to regret something you have done than to regret something you haven't done

MrFlibble posted:

They cast Rik Mayall as someone in the thread said earlier

He talks about it here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9pioZ9TQ9E

He would have been a pretty good fit.

Oh, he would have! Welp, at least he still got paid.

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


I hope we get to see the scenes they filmed with him one day. They sound amazing.

Need more Pottermore content. :argh:

Azubah
Jun 5, 2007

Autumncomet posted:

Need more Pottermore content. :argh:

I'm kinda okay with throwing dead babies out of the garden mini-game they have going.

Fateo McMurray
Mar 22, 2003

AwesomePossum posted:

Had me by the first chapter, will enjoy reading this.

On topic, I never read any of the books until this January. I enjoyed the hell out of the movies, thought they were great. Just never got around to reading any of the books.

Honestly, wish I hadn't sometimes, she writes angsty emo teenage twats very well.

I read the first two "chapters" and couldn't continue. Harry is 10 years old and talks like a university professor. No 10 year old would ever talk like this, or think like the writer is having Harry think. Complete trash.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

FateoMcSkippy posted:

I read the first two "chapters" and couldn't continue. Harry is 10 years old and talks like a university professor. No 10 year old would ever talk like this, or think like the writer is having Harry think. Complete trash.

Sounds like you avoided the theoretical debate about raping luna lovegood. It is very bad.

blastron
Dec 11, 2007

Don't doodle on it!


Basically, the Methods of Rationality is a wankfest where the main character is a super-intelligent rationalist who literally gets superpowers for being a rational humanist. The author also lets his rather peculiar views sink in and it goes into some weird territory. If you can put forth the enormous effort it takes to suspend your disbelief when reading it, it's actually pretty enjoyable. It does a good job filling in all the big plot holes in the books, and the writing's not bad; you just have to get past Harry being a blatant authorial self-insert.

Olanphonia
Jul 27, 2006

I'm open to suggestions~
Finally remembered that Pottermore was a thing and did my signup stuff. My wand is 14.5""[:smuggo:] Acacia and Unicorn Hair, slightly yielding. Sorted into Hufflepuff.

Not crazy about my username (StormSilver20676), but whatever

UndyingShadow
May 15, 2006
You're looking ESPECIALLY shadowy this evening, Sir

blastron posted:

Basically, the Methods of Rationality is a wankfest where the main character is a super-intelligent rationalist who literally gets superpowers for being a rational humanist. The author also lets his rather peculiar views sink in and it goes into some weird territory. If you can put forth the enormous effort it takes to suspend your disbelief when reading it, it's actually pretty enjoyable. It does a good job filling in all the big plot holes in the books, and the writing's not bad; you just have to get past Harry being a blatant authorial self-insert.

Yeah, basically, just pretend wizard school starts at about 15 and you're dealing with an especially bright child genius, then its an acceptable way to kill a few hours at work.

Fateo McMurray
Mar 22, 2003

Paragon8 posted:

Sounds like you avoided the theoretical debate about raping luna lovegood. It is very bad.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat. Please tell me you're making that up.

McFoxigator
Jun 13, 2011

Life is full of twicky decisions...

FateoMcSkippy posted:

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat. Please tell me you're making that up.

And that's why I don't read much fan fic. But this is a joke...isn't it?

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

FateoMcSkippy posted:

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat. Please tell me you're making that up.

Hahahahaha, nope.

quote:

Not really thinking about it, Harry popped the top on his next can of Comed-Tea and prepared to drink. "Are you kidding me? That's even worse than Muggle journalism, which I would have thought was physically impossible." Draco snarled. "She has some sort of perverse obsession about the Malfoys, too, and her father is politically opposed to us so he prints every word. As soon as I'm old enough I'm going to rape her."

Then Malfoy lays on a huge, multi-paragraph explanation of how to get away with raping an 11-year-old in the wizarding world and managed to throw in a "rationally, murder is worse than rape, so why's everyone make a big deal about rape, hmmmm? :smug:" and Harry quickly changed the subject instead of arguing.

Oh, also Harry goes on to say that "There were places in Muggle-land where it was still the same way, countries where that sort of nobility still existed and still thought like that, or even grimmer lands where it wasn't just the nobility. It was like that in every place and time that didn't descend directly from the Enlightenment." So basically that every single non-white society is just a barbarian land of rape and peasants.

Namtab was doing a reading of it in the TV Tropes thread before it got gassed, as the author is a troper, the relevant post is http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3470622&pagenumber=249&perpage=40#post404689242 if you want the whole terrible rape discussion. Namtab doesn't cut anything out, it's all there, in the original context so what you're reading is exactly what the author meant.

Methods of Rationality is the worst thing and I'd rather read a hundred Harry/Draco slashfics or whatever the gently caress than two chapters of MoR.

blastron
Dec 11, 2007

Don't doodle on it!


To be fair, that's used as one of the reasons why supergenius authorial stand-in Harry wants to dismantle the structure of the wizarding world and bring it up to modern standards. The author really does have some bizarre ideas about rape, though; one of his other stories that was supposed to be about far-future humans encountering aliens with incomprehensible ideals inexplicably launched into a bizarre tangent about how rape was apparently okay in the far future for reasons that would be incomprehensible to modern humans. :psyduck:

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

blastron posted:

To be fair, that's used as one of the reasons why supergenius authorial stand-in Harry wants to dismantle the structure of the wizarding world and bring it up to modern standards. The author really does have some bizarre ideas about rape, though; one of his other stories that was supposed to be about far-future humans encountering aliens with incomprehensible ideals inexplicably launched into a bizarre tangent about how rape was apparently okay in the far future for reasons that would be incomprehensible to modern humans. :psyduck:

Its a troper of course they have bizzare ideas about rape.

Fateo McMurray
Mar 22, 2003

WeaponGradeSadness posted:

Hahahahaha, nope.


Then Malfoy lays on a huge, multi-paragraph explanation of how to get away with raping an 11-year-old in the wizarding world and managed to throw in a "rationally, murder is worse than rape, so why's everyone make a big deal about rape, hmmmm? :smug:" and Harry quickly changed the subject instead of arguing.

Oh, also Harry goes on to say that "There were places in Muggle-land where it was still the same way, countries where that sort of nobility still existed and still thought like that, or even grimmer lands where it wasn't just the nobility. It was like that in every place and time that didn't descend directly from the Enlightenment." So basically that every single non-white society is just a barbarian land of rape and peasants.

Namtab was doing a reading of it in the TV Tropes thread before it got gassed, as the author is a troper, the relevant post is http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3470622&pagenumber=249&perpage=40#post404689242 if you want the whole terrible rape discussion. Namtab doesn't cut anything out, it's all there, in the original context so what you're reading is exactly what the author meant.

Methods of Rationality is the worst thing and I'd rather read a hundred Harry/Draco slashfics or whatever the gently caress than two chapters of MoR.

Good loving god. I am legit disgusted. gently caress that fanfic, and anyone who likes it.

SystemLogoff
Feb 19, 2011

End Session?

I've heard it only becomes worse from there, something about the author wanting to yell at Dumbledore for believing in the afterlife.

Hurry up and finish your new book JKR. :(

geeves
Sep 16, 2004

FateoMcSkippy posted:

Good loving god. I am legit disgusted. gently caress that fanfic, and anyone who likes it.

I read the first couple of chapters years ago. Holy poo poo it was awful.

I've mentioned this fanfic author before in this thread, but this is probably better written than the actual books. He dealt with some major health issues years ago, but is finally getting around to finishing "Years of Rebellion". "The Last Horcrux" is just as good.

http://yourfanfiction.com/viewuser.php?uid=3147

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Calef
Aug 21, 2007

UndyingShadow posted:

Yeah, basically, just pretend wizard school starts at about 15 and you're dealing with an especially bright child genius, then its an acceptable way to kill a few hours at work.

More than a few, since HPMOR is longer than the first three Harry Potter books combined.

Also much better.

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