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Question for you guys : How often do you attend a class / school / dojo / instructional session, how often do you practice on your own, and how often do lift weights and work on conditioning? Do you have a "real job," too? I only ask because spending 20 hours a week on their Martial Arts is a lot different if that's your only obligation, or if you're working 40 hours a week, too.
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niethan posted:Crosspost. Okay this was a really weird fight
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Jul 11, 2012 02:12
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Pagan posted:Question for you guys : How often do you attend a class / school / dojo / instructional session, how often do you practice on your own, and how often do lift weights and work on conditioning? Do you have a "real job," too? I only ask because spending 20 hours a week on their Martial Arts is a lot different if that's your only obligation, or if you're working 40 hours a week, too. 2.5 hours x 5-6 times per week instruction/sparring/rolling. Haven't lifted in the last couple of months since my school changed locations (we used to be in the back of a normal gym so we got membership there as part of the deal) but I've been thinking about mixing it back in. Only problem is that I have gym access at work and home but they're both lovely machine/aerobic equipment/couple of dumb-bell setups, no squat racks etc. I work a real (boring) job full-time, 45 hours per week on average. If I didn't have a real job I imagine I'd train morning and night and spend 90% of the time injured.
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Jul 11, 2012 02:20
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If we're posting awful fight videos here's mine Rd1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeBUVphQ6I0&feature=youtube_gdata_player Rd2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw-5I0ZxGIo&feature=youtube_gdata_player Rd3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yjgSM1JQIk&feature=youtube_gdata_player I'm in the black shorts, it was my first fight, his 5th, my mouth guard fell out 3 times which is why I got a point deducted. I also got kicked in the liver heaps. Only started to feel comfortable towards the end of the 3rd round. Didn't gas out or anything but needed to be more aggressive and loosen up, was too tense and everything felt awkward/half speed. Lost the decision obviously.
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Jul 11, 2012 02:30
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gimpsuitjones posted:If we're posting awful fight videos here's mine I don't know anything about kickboxing(?) but I'll agree that you needed to be more aggressive and you did eat a lot of kicks. It looked like you were on to something at the beginning of r2 but then backed off about halfway through. It looked like you went all out at the end of r3 but still had plenty of energy left maybe start going harder sooner? My opinion doesn't really mean much as I'm not a striker but either way it was a fun fight to watch. Good first fight.
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Jul 11, 2012 04:41
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Back in college, I did kendo for about a year. Never got so far as to do a tournament, but I had a lot of fun. Now it's a few years later, I'm older and fatter but trying to get in better shape again, so I'm planning to try doing some suburi and other solo things. Are there any other kendo goons in the SF Bay Area? It's kind of a drive to any dojo around here, so I was hoping a local kendoka could share some info. Also, does anybody know about shinkendo? There's a place very close, but from the limited wikipedia page it doesn't necessarily seem that close to kendo, despite the name.
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Jul 11, 2012 04:44
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Guilty posted:You cut weight primarily because you want to be the biggest fucker in your weight category. The guys at the top are most likely to have the longest reach for striking. Also because carrying around fat isn't useful at all. If you can bring more muscle mass into the fight, more power to you, definitely do that. The only advantage is that you can carb load the night before. Oh no bro I know what weight cutting is any why to do it, I've done it for grappling comps. In this case we originally agreed on a catchweight that was a kilo over my walking around weight (he proceeded to miss that weight by a bit), so there was no reason to cut weight for me here.
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Jul 11, 2012 05:19
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Pagan posted:Question for you guys : How often do you attend a class / school / dojo / instructional session, how often do you practice on your own, and how often do lift weights and work on conditioning? Do you have a "real job," too? I only ask because spending 20 hours a week on their Martial Arts is a lot different if that's your only obligation, or if you're working 40 hours a week, too. I have two kids 7 and 10 and I am a high school English teacher and cub scout den leader. Right now it is summer obviously so I have way more time so I am going about 4 times a week at an hour a time. They just started bjj on Tues and Thurs from 7:30 to 9. If I add that into the stand up classes I'd be going Mon-Thurs and Sat. That's not going to happen even now and who knows how mich things will fall apart when swork and scouts start up again.
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Jul 11, 2012 05:22
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I work 45hr weeks (no overtime as an intern) and I train 3.5-5hr a day. 5hr on Sunday, 3.5 on normal days. But I'm absurdly tired/out of it at the moment, and it's certainly not applicable with social obligations. I also take saturday off.
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Jul 11, 2012 05:28
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Pham Nuwen posted:Back in college, I did kendo for about a year. Never got so far as to do a tournament, but I had a lot of fun. Now it's a few years later, I'm older and fatter but trying to get in better shape again, so I'm planning to try doing some suburi and other solo things. If swords are your thing, have you considering going West and switching to fencing? It's also loads of fun.  My training is dependent on the university's schedule. During the school year I drill twice a week for two hours each and am able to open bout 2 a week for another two hours (getting, roughly, 3-7 bouts). Also, I bout at a separate club most of the time for another two hours a week. When it's not, once or twice a week of open bouting is all I get.
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Jul 11, 2012 05:41
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Is an hour really enough for Muay Thai? I'm back home for a bit and the gym does hour classes too. I paid for the 2 weeks I was down, unlimited classes. However, I'll be visiting more frequently over the weekends. What do you guys think is a fair "per class" rate? They're cool dudes. And let me gently caress off for an hour on the bags while they start their BJJ class.
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Jul 11, 2012 05:46
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Christoff posted:Is an hour really enough for Muay Thai? quote:What do you guys think is a fair "per class" rate? Depends on where you live.
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Jul 11, 2012 06:05
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Pham Nuwen posted:Back in college, I did kendo for about a year. Never got so far as to do a tournament, but I had a lot of fun. Now it's a few years later, I'm older and fatter but trying to get in better shape again, so I'm planning to try doing some suburi and other solo things. Shinkendo is Toshiro Obata's creation. I believe it is primarily composed from his background in Toyama-Ryu and Yoshinkan Aikido. It's not koryu or a gendai family art, but if you wanted to learn how a Japanese sword is supposed to be used it is not a bad place to start and is more readily available. Iai schools are'nt bad either. But ZNKR iaido is significantly different than koryu or gendai iai schools. I would try looking into the local colleges or asking asking on e-budo. Christoff posted:What do you guys think is a fair "per class" rate? They're cool dudes. And let me gently caress off for an hour on the bags while they start their BJJ class. Pagan posted:Question for you guys : How often do you attend a class / school / dojo / instructional session, how often do you practice on your own, and how often do lift weights and work on conditioning? Do you have a "real job," too? I only ask because spending 20 hours a week on their Martial Arts is a lot different if that's your only obligation, or if you're working 40 hours a week, too. If I'm feeling lucky, I'll do about an hour and a half of BJJ 2-3 days per week. I used to train 3-5 days per week but my gym is no longer near my house. (The old gym went under, the instructor has some mental issues and even though he's got a 'new' gym a couple miles away, I want nothing to do with the guy.) Currently I don't do any lifting or conditioning training because by the time the weekend rolls around I am dead tired. I am generally dead tired during the evening, thus why I'm not practicing as much these days. If I lived closer to my gym, and had non-lovely working hours. (A 9-5 job.) I would probably be less burnt out and train more often. If I ever go to graduate school, I might make one last effort to train often. (10-20 hours per week.) As you get older, your career looms ahead of you and so do family obligations. Its nice to think that if you train hard and put in the hours that you'll be a world champion and be able to support your family and yourself, but unfortunately the real world is not that nice. I actually recall reading an interview with some up and coming brown belt in his early twenties, who graduated from college with an engineering degree. He talked about how he 'abandoned' his career (not really true since most people dont start their careers until their late twenties or early thirties.) went pro (trains full time) and "If you follow your dreams and work hard, everything will turn out a-ok." I think specifically he left his job, to train BJJ full time, and got some sponsors, and competes. Maybe he moved cross country too, I can't remember. Which is a nice thing to think, but very very rarely does life turn out so.... nicely. Senor P. fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Jul 11, 2012 |
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Jul 11, 2012 06:24
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gimpsuitjones posted:If we're posting awful fight videos here's mine I don't think that's awful at all. Gustsy performance against a guy who knew what he was doing in there. Surprised you didn't gas, you should look as good as him in your 5th fight.
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Jul 11, 2012 07:58
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Pagan posted:Question for you guys : How often do you attend a class / school / dojo / instructional session, how often do you practice on your own, and how often do lift weights and work on conditioning? Do you have a "real job," too? I only ask because spending 20 hours a week on their Martial Arts is a lot different if that's your only obligation, or if you're working 40 hours a week, too. I have a (boring) real job as well during your regular office hours. The club I go to is only open 4 days a week in the summer, and I don't have a regular schedule at all (I just go to the classes that suit me on a given day!) but I usually train boxing and savate 4-5 times a week from 1h15min for up to 3 hours a day. I average about 30 hours of training a month, or an hour per day. I don't train outside of the club regularly, nor do I lift weights. I don't think I could both work at the office and train 3 hours every day in addition to that. I would either transform into a zombie or get so overtrained I would just get worse with every session.
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Jul 11, 2012 12:46
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Back in college, a buddy and I trained together at two different schools - one was bjj, one was a mix of everything - for 5-6 days a week, for 2-4 hours a day. When college ended, I went to grad school and my training dropped tremendously, and then stopped altogether for about 7 years. He continued to train hard, but he stayed in his entry-level job for about four years before getting a marginal promotion. End result: My buddy is now an instructor, and I am not. I have have a wife, a house, a son (who I adore), a graduate degree, and a job that pays much more than his, whereas he just got married, lives in a small apartment, and has a much lower earning potential. I recently got back into training, because I love this stuff, and there are many days where I regret not taking the path that he took. Sometimes I really wish that I had focused my twenties on training, rather than on my "real" career. Now I have a family and a mortgage payment and I can only give 4-6 hours a week to training, if that. But I love my wife, I love my kid, and I have a solid career. It's all about tradeoffs. If you are young, and passionate about martial arts, spend as much time as you can training - you will have less time later in life. Get as much knowledge as you can burned into your muscle memory. The opportunity costs for training get much steeper as you age.
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Jul 11, 2012 15:03
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I am mid twenties, standard office job and train 2 to 3 times a week an hour or so of rolling then an hour helping with teaching. I wish I could do 4x a week regularly but my body and schedule makes that difficult. I don't do any outside workouts, I used to do kettle bells on my off days but hard workouts six days a week was making it hard to focus. If I never make it past brown belt, I am fine with that but I hope to train the rest of my life.
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Jul 11, 2012 15:26
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niethan posted:Oh no bro I know what weight cutting is any why to do it, I've done it for grappling comps. In this case we originally agreed on a catchweight that was a kilo over my walking around weight (he proceeded to miss that weight by a bit), so there was no reason to cut weight for me here.
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Jul 11, 2012 16:03
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I'm mid-twenties and a teacher; currently have a free summer! Whoo! I train with my teachers for three 2ish hours sessions a week, I train on my own for probably 5-10 hours a week, I lift and I run three times a week or more. It's a lot for me, since I'm making up for spending most of my life as a fat gently caress, and it's really draining and sore. I'm doing Karate and Kobudo, so while it's intense there isn't much physical damage to recover from. Nobody's punching me in the head repeatedly. I'm lucky in that I can make my job for the summer to get in shape and learn some poo poo.
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Jul 11, 2012 17:16
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kimbo305 posted:Put up your first fight again, scout your opponent some for us, and put up some new sparring footage. I can do the first. My opponent doesn't have anything, anything online. I don't think he's ever fought before. I'll try to grab some sparring footage over the next couple of days. I feel like a shithead for breaking the 'no-taper' social norm and taking a day to just jumprope and try to feel less sore, but after thinking about it I definitely need time off before I injure myself. edit: I'm literally calling in sick ffff Fontoyn fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Jul 11, 2012 |
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Jul 11, 2012 17:16
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McNerd posted:I think the natural question is, why did you agree to such a fight instead of going down a weight class? My coach was organizing the event and asked me if I want to do a grappling match and I said I'm down for whatever. Originally we were both going to weigh in at 78 kilos but that gradually shifted up as my opponent showed his uselessness at cutting. It was really like You wanna fight Sure He's heavy Ok whatever
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Jul 11, 2012 17:32
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I only train on average 2x a week for 1.5 hours. Occasionally it'll be 3 times if I go on the Saturday class. I'm really not old ( 31 ) but I just don't have any more time/energy than that, what with work, social activities, and wanting to see my fiancee on a regular basis. With a 9-5 job and class starting at 7, by the time I get out of work, commute home, eat in 5 minutes and head out the door again, that leaves me with ( after showering/getting back from class ) ~1 hour before I go to sleep again. I just don't have the energy to do that more than twice in a work week - which is why the weekend classes are nice. I admit I envy you guys that can go 5+ times a week, I know that the more you do something ( anything ) the better you get at it, especially when it is something cumulative like a martial art. When I first started I was almost a little fanatic that I go to literally every single class available, but it just started burning me out. However I like to think this is a life-long endeavour/hobby, and I'm not aiming to become a pro fighter or anything, and I'm not on some sort of timeline ( must be at X level by Y date ) so I suppose in that sense it accomplishes exactly what I want - Exercise, Challenging myself, Hitting, Getting hit.
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Jul 11, 2012 17:34
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Fontoyn posted:My opponent doesn't have anything, anything online. I don't think he's ever fought before. I've been the designated simulation opponent for two guys at our gym prepping for fights. Each time, the only scouting info we had was word of mouth. It's very fun to use a completely different style and tactics, ones that are assigned to you instead of what you naturally go with. One guy's opponent was a karate guy who had fast hands and loved to use the spinning backfist. When I sparred, I did really weak fast punches and looked for the backfist. In the first minute, I actually landed the backfist really solidly. I have never since pulled one off. But at the last minute, the promoter switched the fight and my training partner lost in SD to a Muay Thai guy.
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Jul 11, 2012 18:17
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McNerd posted:I think the natural question is, why did you agree to such a fight instead of going down a weight class? MMA fights in Germany can be a little rare to come by. Sometimes you just fight because the opportunity is there. I'm pretty sure Stuttgart doesn't have that spectacular of a scene
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Jul 11, 2012 18:32
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I just got back from teaching in Japan for 2 years. While I was there I did about 6 months of karate. I'd like to get back into but I'm willing to try another style. I'm in a fairly small town and one of the only places around here advertises lessons in 8 or 9 different styles. Is this just bullshit? It seems like a pretty incredible claim unless they have 8 or 9 instructors working there.
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Jul 11, 2012 22:42
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Depends on how big it is. You could have Muay Thai/Kickboxing, Boxing, Wrestling, BJJ, MMA, and Judo in the same gym. Not likely, but it's possible
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Jul 11, 2012 22:44
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Depends, if they're very similar styles then one guy could probably handle the load. A judo bjj wrestling class could use the same staff. I knew a school owner with a brown belt in bjj and extensive pro kickboxing experience. He's a great athlete that just gets stuff very fast, and his students do well in both sports. The odds that it is legit are low but it's not impossible. Post a link to their site.
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Jul 11, 2012 22:54
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I know everyone's body is different but I have no idea how people are training 2+ hours 5 days a week. I'm a kickboxer and train 4x a week at peak, each one hour tops (I train during my lunch hour so I can't go any longer). 2 days straight and I like to have a break, 3 days and I can hardly function. I do push myself really hard during every session though, whether it's PT, sparring or just general bag work. Had the hardest spar I've had on Tuesday and I couldn't back up the next day.
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Jul 11, 2012 23:58
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I like to train twice a day for about 3-4 hours total when I can, but work doesn't let me often.
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On a break until august right now, but my schedule from March to June was basically 3x 2h jits and 3x 1h lifting every week, plus some running.
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Jul 12, 2012 02:00
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henkman posted:Depends on how big it is. You could have Muay Thai/Kickboxing, Boxing, Wrestling, BJJ, MMA, and Judo in the same gym. Not likely, but it's possible That place I train at has almost exactly this. http://warriorgymdc.com/ Possible. Do some research.
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Jul 12, 2012 02:50
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FYI, there is now a subforum for the 2012 Olympic games. Fencers, boxers, wrestlers, TKDers, Judoka, please feel free to discuss the appropriate events, and anyone in any discipline that feels like putting together an informative OP for the above, please feel free.
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Jul 12, 2012 04:10
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henkman posted:Depends on how big it is. You could have Muay Thai/Kickboxing, Boxing, Wrestling, BJJ, MMA, and Judo in the same gym. Not likely, but it's possible That's pretty much it. They offer classes in: Brazilian Jiu-jitsu Jiu-Jitsu (Jujutsu/Jujitsu) Judo Kick Boxing Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) Muay Thai Sambo Wrestling Yoga So it looks like it's at least worth a look then. The website doesn't have a ton of other info on it but they do offer a consultation and a trial lesson.
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Jul 12, 2012 05:06
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Also on forced break until August, I do 2x-3x 1 hour Muay Thai classes, 1x 1.5-2.5 HEMA (sometimes teaching) and try and run/SS in the mornings. I'd love to add Judo/BJJ classes or do more MT or something but the combination of having a life, commuting by bus and every single gym in town deciding to train on the same days makes it rather tricky. Related, is it just in Holland that training Judo as an inexperienced adult is weird? At every gym there's only brown/black belt adults, all the lower belts are usually 16, max. It makes for very weird training, as I feel like a bitch for wasting BB training time and I don't learn poo poo from the lower belts as I can just pick them up and put them down, and they can't throw me for poo poo.
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Jul 12, 2012 09:24
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Dr_Amazing posted:That's pretty much it. They offer classes in: Might as well check them out and see if you like the teaching style. Also, whatever martial arts you decide to train there, I'd recommend also doing the yoga, it's fantastic for flexibility and balance.
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Jul 12, 2012 10:54
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Rhaka posted:Related, is it just in Holland that training Judo as an inexperienced adult is weird? Same here in Germany, but the way stuff like Judo and Karate is taught sucks anyway. The best way to learn useful Judo is to come across a grappling coach with Judo experience at a BJJ/MMA gym.
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Jul 12, 2012 11:57
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generatrix posted:Might as well check them out and see if you like the teaching style. Also, whatever martial arts you decide to train there, I'd recommend also doing the yoga, it's fantastic for flexibility and balance. I'd get into yoga if it was offered at my gym.
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Jul 12, 2012 17:00
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Got cock-punched twice while sparring last night for some reason. My NuttyBuddy can't arrive soon enough.
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Dr_Amazing posted:That's pretty much it. They offer classes in: A lot of those are pretty similar. MMA is just a fusion of any of those styles, BJJ, Jiu-Jitsu, Sambo and Wrestling are all very similar depending on how they are taught and Kick Boxing and Muay Thai are basically the same thing. This isn't necessarily bad, but keep in mind that they're actually presenting 3-4 things rather than 9.
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Somebody on bullshido compiled all of the stories by the "forever fat" guy into a blog. http://mrbadguyforeverfat.wordpress.com/ Very funny/depressing reading. The guy's had a lifetime of nothing but terrible martial art schools, has a bunch of horrible and embarassing stories, and the way he writes is hilarious.
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