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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Bavius posted:

Droppod wolves are awesome in 6th. You land where you need to be, the reserves are better, the mishaps are less punishing, you get a 6 inch move after you deep strike (please correct me immediately if wrong here), and you can do grey hunters for the entire deep strike force which are still great troops and work really well when you are imediately in range to rapid fire.

Nice! I could possible do a drop a GH and BC squad down near each other have them got nuts in the shooting phase, and if there's anything left, the BC can charge in and mop up whats left.

Well, drop + land raider for at least one BC squad.

kannonfodder posted:

I'd also forgotten about them for some time now, until I found one of the boxes they ship things in when looking for some sprues. I managed to find drop pods, under Warhammer 40k-> Space Marines -> Boxed Sets -> about halfway down the page (Ctrl+F for "Drop")

Weird, as i did crtl+f with drop and it was just red. I'll check again later.

I pretty much use my smurf drop pod to deliver my sternguard, though I keep thinking I may be wasting it in that capacity. I think I fell in love with doing that when in a tourny, they killed the emperors champion in one turn of shooting.

I don't think I've used an Ethereal since the current Tau book. I'm going to be very disappointed if the new Tau book, when ever it comes out, doesn't have the Barracuda.

I was thinking, when they do a new Marine codex, I wonder what they would actually add. Obviously the Stormtalon, but maybe the Stormraven, but outside of that, what can they add? New Special Characters? Model wise everything but a handful of things are plastic, and even then, i doubt they'd make a plastic thunderfire cannon, though on second thought, the thing is a bitch to put together. Wait, there was an old Epic marine model that was an anti-air whirlwind like thing, maybe that?

xtothez posted:

Sure they can. Eldar/DE are Battle Brothers, which means IC's can join each others units and friendly psychic powers can be cast on them. The only restriction is that they can't join an allied transport. That does sound like a pretty mean unit.
I wonder if the Harlequins can benefit from Power Through Pain...

Crap, you're right, i forgot BB let you have ICs join any unit.

twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Jul 12, 2012

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xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

BOLS posted posted:

The most powerful we’ve found so far is Eldrad Fortuning a unit of Harlies (take the Harlies from the Eldar codex as they can be Fortuned) with attached Archons with Shadowfields.

twistedmentat posted:

I don't think you can do that, as allies cannot have a unit from one army be joined by an IC from another. They seem to be saying "take the unit from one codex because its the same unit, but has better rules in the other one. your opponent won't notice".

Sure they can. Eldar/DE are Battle Brothers, which means IC's can join each others units and friendly psychic powers can be cast on them. The only restriction is that they can't join an allied transport. That does sound like a pretty mean unit.
I wonder if the Harlequins can benefit from Power Through Pain...

The Supreme Court
Feb 25, 2010

Pirate World: Nearly done!

Kaysette posted:

This is what the cool kids are using as psykers (cool kids include me and... me)

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat490066a&prodId=prod1120119

Wow. I didn't know that GW still sold Necromunda gangs, but when did they updage the Redemptionists? The sculpts are classier but lack the character of the old ones.


Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

Pretty much this. Old schoold redemptionists were awesome.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

The Supreme Court posted:

Wow. I didn't know that GW still sold Necromunda gangs, but when did they updage the Redemptionists? The sculpts are classier but lack the character of the old ones.
The new ones don't have the Exterminator+everything combo for some reason :(

WINNERSH TRIANGLE
Aug 17, 2011

The Supreme Court posted:

Wow. I didn't know that GW still sold Necromunda gangs, but when did they updage the Redemptionists? The sculpts are classier but lack the character of the old ones.




What are you talking about, Skull Head Dude owns as heck.

ChrisAsmadi
Apr 19, 2007
:D

The Supreme Court posted:

Wow. I didn't know that GW still sold Necromunda gangs, but when did they updage the Redemptionists? The sculpts are classier but lack the character of the old ones.




They're actually the same I think, just that the heads and arms are separate from the bodies, so one set is built differently.

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me
That redemptionist kit would be perfect for various Inquisitorial Henchmen if any of you are looking to pick up some GK allies.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP
I'm sure some well adjusted individual will have an army that consists of Klansmen Redemptionists alongside Nazi Guard, just for that fully offensive impact.

WhiteOutMouse
Jul 29, 2010

:wom: will blow your mind.
Deathcult assassins.
Wargear: Flak armour, two power weapons.

So, which two should we bring? One lance and one mace? v:v:v

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me

WhiteOutMouse posted:

Deathcult assassins.
Wargear: Flak armour, two power weapons.

So, which two should we bring? One lance and one mace? v:v:v

I was thinking 1 lance 1 maul. I don't think you need AP3 in the 2nd turn of assault most of the time because you should generally crush on the charge. I think 1 or 2 double axe assassins should be good as well.

WhiteOutMouse
Jul 29, 2010

:wom: will blow your mind.
Double axe? These weapons are not specialist, the bonus attack applies to either weapon profile!

So maybe all Lance & Axe, since we may need the AP2 and S5 will still do a number on vehicle butts.

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me

WhiteOutMouse posted:

Double axe? These weapons are not specialist, the bonus attack applies to either weapon profile!

So maybe all Lance & Axe, since we may need the AP2 and S5 will still do a number on vehicle butts.

Man, I assumed Axe was specialist because it's unwieldy. I think Lance + Axe is the way to go, then.

Naramyth
Jan 22, 2009

Australia cares about cunts. Including this one.

panascope posted:

Wait, they had a PBS kit? I thought they just sold metal psykers in blisters.

Edit: These are what I'm talking about.


Huh, I ctrl+f'd it and couldn't find it. Probably spelled sanctioned wrong. :v:

twistedmentat posted:

Empire Flagellants always seemed like the go to models for PBS.

I have 3 of the metal ones that I got in a deal. I am painted a couple up as my Primaris Pykers and am going to use Flagellants as my PBS. In fact I have a set on the way! :v:

Phyresis posted:

Man, I assumed Axe was specialist because it's unwieldy. I think Lance + Axe is the way to go, then.

Time to look for a kit with dudes that look death cult assassin-y and have lances and axes. :v:

Naramyth fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Jul 12, 2012

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

Naramyth posted:

Well that is basically 3-4 melta/plas squads at 1850. :v:

Yeah I really didn't think it was that many. Looks like you were right.

The point of the blob is that it's Stubborn on re-rollable Ld9. Anyone who cares to focus fire it will probably kill it, but not in less than a couple of turns, so it's unlikely to die completely and it's unlikely to run away. It hangs around on an objective, Goes to Ground every time anything good shoots it and hopes that everything else in your army is much more threatening than 20 Guardsmen in cover (which in fairness, it is) so that by the time your opponent is trying to kill them off then there's not enough time/weaponry available to really punish them.

turn it up TURN ME ON
Mar 19, 2012

In the Grim Darkness of the Future, there is only war.

...and delicious ice cream.

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Do you understand just how big the Fortress of Redemption is? Here's a picture from the Apoc game I played earlier this year:



The perspective's a bit off due to the camera angle, but notice how the fucker is bigger than a Hierophant Bio-Titan. I've never played in a tournament myself, but I can absolutely understand that the time restrictions alone would preclude anything more elaborate than the most basic terrain setup, and having to somehow deal with getting that thing on the table is clearly not worth the many, many headaches it would cause.

This picture needs to be explored more. Is that a Thomas the Tank Engine Tank? And a lego Valkyrie?

Naramyth
Jan 22, 2009

Australia cares about cunts. Including this one.

Corrode posted:

Yeah I really didn't think it was that many. Looks like you were right.

The point of the blob is that it's Stubborn on re-rollable Ld9. Anyone who cares to focus fire it will probably kill it, but not in less than a couple of turns, so it's unlikely to die completely and it's unlikely to run away. It hangs around on an objective, Goes to Ground every time anything good shoots it and hopes that everything else in your army is much more threatening than 20 Guardsmen in cover (which in fairness, it is) so that by the time your opponent is trying to kill them off then there's not enough time/weaponry available to really punish them.

That makes sense. That is definitely better then a minimum sized squad hanging out.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

SquadronROE posted:

This picture needs to be explored more. Is that a Thomas the Tank Engine Tank? And a lego Valkyrie?

Yes to the first, no to the second. It's a Thunderbolt being used as terrain.

The Valkyrie is on the other end of the table. :v:

Creepy Goat
Sep 19, 2010
Any UK hams that want some Sisters? Got a spare squad (7x bolters, 1x flamer, 1x melta, 1x stormbolter, 1x superior w/ power sword), painted and based. Look pretty nice in daylight, I just can't take photos of miniatures for poo poo. After £35 posted.





fe; Yeah gently caress drilling pewter barrels :colbert:

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
For those who care about such things NOVA released their primer for the upcoming tournament.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Man, I hope that GW never gets around to making plastic Sisters, because that would be the thing that forces me to get them. Especially now you can buddy up with IG for Fraternis Militia.

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me

Ashcans posted:

Man, I hope that GW never gets around to making plastic Sisters, because that would be the thing that forces me to get them. Especially now you can buddy up with IG for Fraternis Militia.

I've been waiting for plastic Sisters since I started playing 5th. All they would need is a 5-sister box with all the bits like the Grey Knights box, a plastic Immolator sprue, a plastic Exorcist sprue, and maybe like a Penitent Engine 2nd wave with some other new crap GW will try to foist onto us.

Miles O'Brian
May 22, 2006

All we have to lose is our chains
There is already a plastic Immolator sprue. In fact, anyone buying a Sisters rhino buys the Immolator box instead because its the same price and comes with the extra gubbins. The actual turret section really sucks but the decorative pieces you get are great. Although most of the panels don't really fit anywhere on the rhino at all... maybe its a terrible kit after all. I just like the top plate and glass canopy.

Incidentally, does anyone need a Dark Eldar battleforce? I've got one here, cellophane off but otherwise untouched, everything on sprue. Looking to offload it so I can pick up a couple of Immolators. :v:

Miles O'Brian fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jul 12, 2012

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me

Miles O'Brian posted:

There is already a plastic Immolator sprue.

Yeah, but it's ugly as gently caress and the whole thing needs to be redone. Oh, you did mention that. Anyway I think the whole kit needs to be redesigned, and the Rhino itself is getting along in years...

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
No vehicle kits needs to be redesigned more than the Leman Russ. It's dinky and looks really dated.

Crackbone
May 23, 2003

Vlaada is my co-pilot.

Wrong. Eldar jetbikes. So. Badly.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
No, at least they're within the modern vehicle scale. Leman Russ models are smaller than Necron Scarabs. That is a true fact.

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me

Rapey Joe Stalin posted:

No, at least they're within the modern vehicle scale. Leman Russ models are smaller than Necron Scarabs. That is a true fact.

loving cracking up at this poo poo

could you imagine an IG player pushing around these tiny tanks

e: at least cover is easy to get

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

Now be a dear and
fuck the fuck off.

Phyresis posted:

loving cracking up at this poo poo

could you imagine an IG player pushing around these tiny tanks

e: at least cover is easy to get

When I was staff, I suggested a Chaos army, all with the same mutation of 'diminutive stature'. It's fluffy, the mutation existed in the game setting, it's competitive because cover would be so badass for it, and the army would be legitimate for tournaments as it'd be entirely GW models.

My Epic-in-40k project made two managers very unhappy with me. :v:

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me

Shockeh posted:

When I was staff, I suggested a Chaos army, all with the same mutation of 'diminutive stature'. It's fluffy, the mutation existed in the game setting,

That story is hilarious but wait, what? How tiny can Chaos mutants get? Like 1 foot tall?

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Crackbone posted:

Wrong. Eldar jetbikes. So. Badly.

What are you talking about? They redesigned the Eldar Jetbike in 2007, and it looks great!



They just never bothered to release the new version, that's all. :suicide:

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

How many Astartes do you know that roll like this?

Ashcans posted:

What are you talking about? They redesigned the Eldar Jetbike in 2007, and it looks great!



They just never bothered to release the new version, that's all. :suicide:

Actually it got turned into reaver jetbikes and were released. Looks at the jet thing on the back and the seats.

Could anyone point me in the direction of some good necron lists for 6th? I am liking the idea of 3 doom scythes flying around with canoptek everything.

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

Yea, I know. It's still unbelievably irritating that they actually had a prototype all set in 2007, and then just... didn't produce it. Not only that, they sat on it for what, four years, before finally releasing something similar for a different army.

The current Eldar Jetbike box was released in like 1993 or something. It is older than the average 40k player.

BadLlama
Jan 13, 2006

My eldar army is all the old models circa 2000. I can't play the army because they are all so ugly :(

numerrik
Jul 15, 2009

Falcon Punch!

Creepy Goat posted:

Any UK hams that want some Sisters? Got a spare squad (7x bolters, 1x flamer, 1x melta, 1x stormbolter, 1x superior w/ power sword), painted and based. Look pretty nice in daylight, I just can't take photos of miniatures for poo poo. After £35 posted.





fe; Yeah gently caress drilling pewter barrels :colbert:

I am not in the UK, but I am so very tempted to buy this, drat my weakness for building my sisters Army, I need to save money to buy an Exorcist for the next point escalation, not more troops. But they look so pretty...

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

BadLlama posted:

My eldar army is all the old models circa 2000. I can't play the army because they are all so ugly :(

Mine is all models circa 1990-1998. I think the newest thing I own is a Wave Serpent.

So many metal Wraithlords. So many.

BadLlama
Jan 13, 2006

Ashcans posted:

Mine is all models circa 1990-1998. I think the newest thing I own is a Wave Serpent.

So many metal Wraithlords. So many.

Aye and metal War walkers as well : / and the goofy looking Dark Reapers before they were redone. Id love to play my elder once more but I just can stand looking at them. Probably also because they were my first army and when you are 14 painting isn't exactly high quality.

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Rapey Joe Stalin posted:

No vehicle kits needs to be redesigned more than the Leman Russ. It's dinky and looks really dated.

Ork Buggies :colbert:

Ashcans
Jan 2, 2006

Let's do the space-time warp again!

BadLlama posted:

Aye and metal War walkers as well : / and the goofy looking Dark Reapers before they were redone. Id love to play my elder once more but I just can stand looking at them. Probably also because they were my first army and when you are 14 painting isn't exactly high quality.

The new walkers are boss, but I kind of have a soft spot for the old metal ones, I even repainted mine!



The new Wraithlords are just so much better than the old metal ones, though. It's amazing what difference a torso makes to a model. The problem is that I have 3-4 metal Wraithlords, so I really can't justify buying plastic ones for a game I don't even play much any more.

Same goes for Dire Avengers - the plastic kit is rad, but I have 15 of the old metal ones. Sigh.

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berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

S.J. posted:

Ork Buggies :colbert:
Oh hell yes. The Wartrakk and the Skorcha as well. Those topknot Orks are awful.

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