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No. This flask: http://mutt.bigcartel.com/product/get-hosed-up-64oz-flask
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i have reached the stage in my bar studying process where i have stopped sleeping entirely 2:20 am i am naked, reading crimlaw flashcards. my girlfriend comes out of the bedroom and she's very tired and squinting because she's not acclimated to the light. she looks in my direction and says "is that you???" and im all like "IM NOT SURE"
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Jul 12, 2012 13:53
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nm posted:Kern County PD is hiring right now. You have to live in Bakersfield though. They're getting high speed rail! In 2017
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Jul 12, 2012 13:57
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tau posted:No. This flask: http://mutt.bigcartel.com/product/get-hosed-up-64oz-flask + tailored suit with corresponding pocket
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Jul 12, 2012 14:16
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Meatbag Esq. posted:Today I learned that there are even crazies in patent cases. When I was at OGC at the PTO, I wrote a brief arguing against a pro se who was trying to get a secrecy order on his application even though DoD, DoE, etc. had no interest in giving him one.
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Jul 12, 2012 14:28
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Feces Starship posted:i have reached the stage in my bar studying process where i have stopped sleeping entirely hahaha Dude, relax a little bit. It's good that you're working hard, but don't drive yourself crazy. Four Cooley campuses. 1000 Cooley grads every year. 87% pass rate.
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Jul 12, 2012 15:08
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I guess Barbri didn't scare enough people taking Maryland because they are now offering the MD Essay Advantage program for free to everyone. That or they do this every year just for good public relations.
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Jul 12, 2012 15:12
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Those programs (conveniently scheduled after they terrified half the class by grading their essays poorly) were about a grand a pop when I took the Massachusetts bar, and I knew people that took 2-3 of them over the course of the summer. Given that the standard BarBri course really over-prepares you for the bar exam if you study EVERYTHING they give you, it's crazy how many add-on programs they offer. Well, it's ridiculous in one sense, but it makes great business sense at the same time.
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Jul 12, 2012 15:47
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Feces Starship posted:i have reached the stage in my bar studying process where i have stopped sleeping entirely Soothing Vapors posted:hahaha I'm going to have to disagree with my friend across the aisle here. You should keep studying this hard in order to avoid the absolute shame of being beaten by Cooley grads. Warning: This advice is primarily due to my desire to observe your descent into madness.
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Jul 12, 2012 15:48
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Court is stupid. The cool tv shows never said I'd be waiting around outside the courtroom for hours.
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Jul 12, 2012 16:22
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:When I was at OGC at the PTO, I wrote a brief arguing against a pro se who was trying to get a secrecy order on his application even though DoD, DoE, etc. had no interest in giving him one. Why'd you go OGC to examiner?
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Jul 12, 2012 18:50
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Mons Hubris posted:Why'd you go OGC to examiner? law school internship (or externship, whatever; either way I got credit for it)
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CaptainScraps posted:Court is stupid. The cool tv shows never said I'd be waiting around outside the courtroom for hours. You can get so confused that you'll start in to race down long wiggled roads at a break-necking pace and grind on for miles across weirdish wild space, headed, I fear, toward a most useless place. The Waiting Place... ...for people just waiting. Waiting for a train to go or a bus to come, or a plane to go or the mail to come, or the rain to go or the phone to ring, or the snow to snow or waiting around for a Yes or a No or waiting for their hair to grow. Everyone is just waiting. Waiting for the fish to bite or waiting for wind to fly a kite or waiting around for Friday night or waiting, perhaps, for their Uncle Jake or a pot to boil, or a Better Break or a string of pearls, or a pair of pants or a wig with curls, or Another Chance. Everyone is just waiting.
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Soothing Vapors posted:hahaha It's not even fear. It's this much weirder thing. During the day I get up, work for between eight and nine hours, have dinner with my lady and then we relax or run around Reeds Lake or something. Then we brush teeth/prayers/turn out the light and my eyes just shoot open and all of a sudden it is MOST DEFINITELY TIME TO WORK. It's like I have some sort of bar-anxiety sundowners
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Feces Starship posted:It's not even fear. It's this much weirder thing. During the day I get up, work for between eight and nine hours, have dinner with my lady and then we relax or run around Reeds Lake or something. Then we brush teeth/prayers/turn out the light and my eyes just shoot open and all of a sudden it is MOST DEFINITELY TIME TO WORK. It's like I have some sort of bar-anxiety sundowners It happened to me, I was talking about the bar with my bar-study bro and he was like "man, we both passed and we only studied for like 6 hours a day" and I was like "uuhhhh I went home and spent like 9pm-3am every night studying by myself until I had drank enough beer to fall asleep" Considering we both passed I was clearly doing it wrong.
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Jul 12, 2012 19:39
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I studied a couple of hours each day and certainly never past sundown, at least until the final week or so. WORKED FOR ME
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Jul 12, 2012 19:56
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zzyzx posted:They have the world's tallest thermometer! Bun Boy 4 lyfe.
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Ive been doing noon to 1 or 2 but I'm a frequent breaks kind of guy so it probably balances out. Things are gonna get weird next week.
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Jul 12, 2012 22:33
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CaptainScraps posted:Court is stupid. The cool tv shows never said I'd be waiting around outside the courtroom for hours. Criminal lawyers don't have to wait. The bailiffs let us in whenever.
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Jul 12, 2012 23:17
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Welp, things aren't as hopeless as I thought. I sent out 6 resumes yesterday and got a call back today for an interview tomorrow. Corporate transactional associate in Oakland, California.
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nm posted:Criminal lawyers don't have to wait. The bailiffs let us in whenever. The Crown (prosecutor) in one court today has a history with my client. He knew I was there for him. I was signed up on the list, and the courtroom was almost empty. He called the lawyer signed up behind me. I stared daggers at him, he stared back and asked if there's any unrepresented people in the body of the court with a matter. After a while of that bullshit I noticed the sign up list with my name on it was entirely crossed-out, and I politely asked why he skipped me. He innocently said "oh I didn't see your name on it." loving rear end in a top hat. It's almost as bad as the courthouse that now forces law students, paralegals, and other agents to sit in the body of the court when waiting for a matter, and they get put on a different list that doesn't get called until they feel like it.
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Martin Random posted:Corporate transactional associate That sounds awful.
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Martin Random posted:Welp, things aren't as hopeless as I thought. I sent out 6 resumes yesterday and got a call back today for an interview tomorrow. Corporate transactional associate in Oakland, California. Good luck.
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Jul 13, 2012 03:46
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Martin Random posted:Welp, things aren't as hopeless as I thought. I sent out 6 resumes yesterday and got a call back today for an interview tomorrow. Corporate transactional associate in Oakland, California. Dammit, I am too late to talk to you about practicing The Law in Long Beach. Ahh, well, good luck with your norcal shenanigans.
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Cormack posted:Dammit, I am too late to talk to you about practicing The Law in Long Beach. Ahh, well, good luck with your norcal shenanigans. Hey, if you have any gigs down there, I still have an interview with a firm down there and haven't been hired up here quite yet. I am looking at my deal sheet and updating it, and holy loving poo poo, I have a great resume. I must have been massively depressed or something to stop shopping this around.
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Just in case someone happens to have a good answer to this: What are job opportunities like in Antitrust right now, particularly antitrust litigation, or just handling antitrust issues for an M&A team, somewhere in California?
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Inertiatic posted:Just in case someone happens to have a good answer to this: What are job opportunities like in Antitrust right now, particularly antitrust litigation, or just handling antitrust issues for an M&A team, somewhere in California? lovely. Like every other lawyer job opportunity: lovely. There was actual competition for the recent DA position in Kotzebue, Alaska, which is a far shittier place than Florida and Bangladesh. Unless of course you get into Stanford, in which case they're decent but not great because you will be competing against your classmates (because nobody else has a chance).
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Inertiatic posted:Just in case someone happens to have a good answer to this: What are job opportunities like in Antitrust right now, particularly antitrust litigation, or just handling antitrust issues for an M&A team, somewhere in California? That depends. Hard times with instability mean work dries up, but hard times with stability mean a lot of M&A activity, because companies are hurting and there are deals to be had. Right now we are in the latter situation; corporations are cash rich, with few if any investment or growth opportunity. What can they do to generate growth except buy each other in "strategic" acquisitions? If you can't grow the pie, buy the whole thing and unfairly raise what a slice costs. When it's cold outside, bigger animals survive. Generally, for California, the scene is pretty bad, except in the bay area. Tech startups are still strong, as is M&A activity there... but this wouldn't really deal with antitrust. Generally, gotta be a small cog in a big firm to deal with that. I never did antitrust lit. Wanted to. Partner took me aside one day, sat down and said, "Martin, I have news for you. We won." That's the general sentiment on the corporate side when it comes to anti-trust stuff in the US. Anti-trust lit depends on mergers and a political climate that leans toward enforcement. I don't know if you noticed, but we aren't particularly willing to enforce regulations except as window dressing in this country lately. I don't know about finding work on the govt side. The story is different in Europe, where they still break things up. I don't know if you noticed, but there's going to be a loving revolution over there. If you want to be a specialist you can learn french. Be prepared to be that weird of-counsel expert in the french court system that nobody talks to but can get away with saying insane things and drying his underwear on lines in his office. What's your school, what year are you, etc. Your chances vary dramatically depending on if you're in the "pipeline" for new associates at these firms. Martin Random fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Jul 13, 2012 |
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CmdrSmirnoff posted:It's almost as bad as the courthouse that now forces law students, paralegals, and other agents to sit in the body of the court when waiting for a matter, and they get put on a different list that doesn't get called until they feel like it. Right. The BC and Ontario lawyers were talking about that the other night. Out here in the wild west, it's based on seniority of who's in the courtroom, so the lawyers go first, then students, then agents, then duty counsel, and then the unrepresented. If I'm lucky, I might be able to get my docket over with in an hour. If I'm unlucky, I'll be floating between 4 to 8 courtrooms for 2 hours before getting to speak to one matter. But non-lawyers get to sit with lawyers? Craziness. I'm still sitting behind the bar and will be until I'm called.
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Martin I am sorry I was mean to you the other day; I'm under a lot of stress right now and I really like reading your stories. You did not deserve it I hope you get that job man
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Just had a phone interview, 10 minutes. Went well. I'm very qualified and at the exact level of expertise as one of their outgoing associates who just went inhouse at Symantec. The partner I'm hoping to work under says they got left the lurch and need someone NOW NOW NOW and seems pretty cool to work with. I told him I could be living in Oakland next week. Early next week I'm going to be contacted for an in-person interview. Feces Starship posted:Martin I am sorry I was mean to you the other day; I'm under a lot of stress right now and I really like reading your stories. You did not deserve it Haha don't worry about it, I saw you were studying for the bar and instantly forgave anything you might do or say. I will never understand the, like, anger some people have over those threads, even after so long. For what it's worth, I feel that over a long marathon stretch the human brain can only really productively study for 4-6 hours per day, in 1 hour chunks maximum. The rest of your time should be spent processing that information by moving your body and traversing stimulating but intellectually undemanding and un-captivating environments. Change your scenery while leaving enough mental space to process what you've just learned and the variety of stimulation will help you encode the information. Believe it or not, after an intense study period, a good walk through the park, a little drive around town, or time spent folding laundry or raking the leaves counts as study time too. Your brain is processing what you learned and popping it into the right boxes. Frequent naps are especially useful. Study, nap, study, nap, study, close your eyes and concentrate on structurally contextualizing what you just learned through visualization techniques, nap, la la la. The brain is an organ of the body that relies up on sleep, low stress, proper regular diet, daily routine, and processing time to function in an ideal way. Studying too hard is like pushing on a sponge to get it to absorb more water. Take fish oil every day, and creatine. When I went to law school, I was considered a little eccentric for following a "brain lifestyle" routine involving getting up extrordinarily early, going to bed extraordinarily early (9:30 pm), napping a lot during the day between study sessions, napping as a form of studying, not studying intensely before finals, and taking slow, deliberate walks. Meditate, starve yourself of overstimulation and brain junk food such as television and other stuff that you "zone out" to, and exercise. Ideally, you should just relax in the three days leading up to your bar exam. You'll do fine. If you're having trouble chilling out, fold some laundry and listen to dharma talks by Jack Kornfield. http://www.dharmaseed.org/teacher/85/talk/1466/19920301-Jack_Kornfield--eightfold_path_of_practice_right_effort_and_mindfulness.mp3 When I took my bar exam, I was staying in a hotel room sandwiched between the machinery running an elevator shaft and a room where a couple was loving-fighting-loving all hours. A guy near me during the exam just got this distant look and started puking all over himself. Stank. I did fine. Idiots do fine. Just get a C and you pass the class. Take it easy. Sorry for the long post, lost my fiance' and decompressing from the interview. Martin Random fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Jul 13, 2012 |
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Gembolah posted:Edit: Wait, are you asking about antitrust work in California? All the work I know of is in NY and DC. With technology these days, any sizeable firm with a significant presence in either of those markets will spin out AT work to their satellite offices, especially junior-level work. Because there's really no reason to see people face to face or even leave your office for most assignments, its easily spun off to satellites. The only way I see him doing it is if he'd be working with a partner in DC or NY for any AT he could catch and eating general corporate M&A poo poo. Doable. Not insane. Hell, I did the equivalent with financial regulatory law at my old firm.
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I was the rear end in a top hat who studied for the bar only for two weeks beforehand with the conviser mini review (which isn't very mini; it was the largest book that year) (and also probably largely due to depression over job prospects leading me to wonder why the gently caress I should put any effort at all into studying), which actually caused me to lose a friendship with one of my closest law school friends because he was studying really, really hard and I barely studied and we both passed and he didn't believe that I didn't put any effort into it.
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Gembolah posted:This is just a shot in the dark, but I think that the poster would have a much better shot getting antitrust work with the state AG rather than in a satellite office of a firm. That being said, I have no idea how active California is in that area. Absolutely true. However, my sibling is a CA state AG, and they just got another furlough day and pay cut. They're slicing back HARD. Perhaps there might be spots opening up due to attrition because of constant paycuts and furloughs, but I can attest to the fact that anyone trying to get CA govt employment is really hosed right now.
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Third year law student here, going in to final year. I'm looking for some non-textbook literature that will really push me to my limits in terms of how I think about and approach copyright and IP - hopefully from both sides of the argument - in book length, with particular reference to the digital age and in a European context. I've (probably undeservedly) landed a dream internship/part-time salaried employment in this area and I know that if I really get my poo poo together on this one it's going to kick-start my career faster than loving anything. I need cutting-edge, thought provoking poo poo yesterday if I'm going to be able to capitalize on this opportunity as much as possible. If anyone has any good authors/books/blogs they'd like to recommend it would be much appreciated.
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Entropy238 posted:Third year law student here, going in to final year. I'm looking for some non-textbook literature that will really push me to my limits in terms of how I think about and approach copyright and IP - hopefully from both sides of the argument - in book length, with particular reference to the digital age and in a European context. I've (probably undeservedly) landed a dream internship/part-time salaried employment in this area and I know that if I really get my poo poo together on this one it's going to kick-start my career faster than loving anything. I need cutting-edge, thought provoking poo poo yesterday if I'm going to be able to capitalize on this opportunity as much as possible. If anyone has any good authors/books/blogs they'd like to recommend it would be much appreciated. I'm on it.
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Entropy238 posted:Third year law student here, going in to final year. I'm looking for some non-textbook literature that will really push me to my limits in terms of how I think about and approach copyright and IP - hopefully from both sides of the argument - in book length, with particular reference to the digital age and in a European context. I've (probably undeservedly) landed a dream internship/part-time salaried employment in this area and I know that if I really get my poo poo together on this one it's going to kick-start my career faster than loving anything. I need cutting-edge, thought provoking poo poo yesterday if I'm going to be able to capitalize on this opportunity as much as possible. If anyone has any good authors/books/blogs they'd like to recommend it would be much appreciated. Have you heard of this guy named Lawrence Lessig? EDIT: I heard there's an up-and-coming IP star named Paul Goldstein too. Maybe check his stuff out. EDIT 2: I guess Goldstein JUST came out with a new edition of his book. Looks like you could've gotten it yesterday too: http://www.amazon.com/International...+Press%2C+2012. tau fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Jul 14, 2012 |
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tau posted:Have you heard of this guy named Lawrence Lessig? I've spent a semester studying case-law based IP in a university in the British Isles that has a much better reputation than it deserves and the philosophy of it all wasn't dwelled on in any particular detail. This is helpful.
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