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So the first signs of the Jem-pocalypse have appeared: This is usualy how it starts with little exclusives here and there before getting a fullblown toyline and TV show. They were rumored to be working on a redesign last year for some yet to be assigned promotion. Honeslty I'm not expecting the new Jem stuff to be geared towards the original demographic, it's probably going to follow certain other shows that the Hub has had success with. That and the SDCC exclusive is super expensive, holy crap.
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Vaerai Archon posted:So the first signs of the Jem-pocalypse have appeared: I guess the price is truly, truly outrageous. 
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Jul 13, 2012 16:25
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Seems like The Hub has finally grown tired of showing the same handful of episodes of GI Joe Renegades and Transformers Prime over and over, and have started showing GI Joe Sigma Six and Transformers Animated. I remember not liking either of those shows when they came on, but Jesus Christ they are ugly, ugly shows. I'm glad the era of anime dominating US animation blocks is finally in its death throes, that was a terrible decade or so for television.
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Jul 14, 2012 05:16
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raditts posted:Seems like The Hub has finally grown tired of showing the same handful of episodes of GI Joe Renegades and Transformers Prime over and over, and have started showing GI Joe Sigma Six and Transformers Animated. I remember not liking either of those shows when they came on, but Jesus Christ they are ugly, ugly shows. I'm glad the era of anime dominating US animation blocks is finally in its death throes, that was a terrible decade or so for television. Transformers animated wasn't anime inspired at all. The guy who did all the designs was from Michigan, he was also INSANE. The transformers past present and future all became "his" creations and he had a mental breakdown about the Transformers continuity. He lashed out at fans and other people across the internet in a weekly rampage and any criticism about the show he took personally. The last two seasons of Transformers animated were incredibly good, infact better than the last two seasons of Beast Wars. They really hit their stride and did some of the best characterization of any other incarnations of the franchise. They had another season planned but CN found out about the Hub and axed TFA from Cartoon network. But yeah Transformers Animated is nothing like anime, they're heavily stylized yes, but not anime stylized. This however, this was Transformers anime at it's peak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whsKhNmMLto Unliked the Transformers animated, the toys transformed exactly the way they were depicted in the show. The animated toys weren't junk though but they did have to mold false kibble and detailing onto the figures so they would match up with their show counterparts(since some of the parts detached or were moved to the back). But Cybertron/Galaxy Force they were all super powered Robot Wars type anime robots.\ Also Renegades wasn't Japanese styled either, it was Malaysian styled. Shows like The Batman and Jackie Chan Adventures used this same style. Tons of Malaysian cartoons have the exact same style. Vaerai Archon fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Jul 14, 2012 |
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Jul 14, 2012 05:46
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Vaerai Archon posted:So the first signs of the Jem-pocalypse have appeared: Rumored? They straight up included it in their presentation to my company of upcoming shows alongside the Dark Crystal spinoff series and something else I don't remember. Target demo is the exact same as all other Hub stuff, kids 6-12 and their Gen X parents who are watching the TV with them. There is not a more 80s network around.
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Jul 14, 2012 07:20
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MOM! Phineas and Ferb are crossing over with Marvel Comics!
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Jul 14, 2012 12:07
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Vaerai Archon posted:Transformers animated wasn't anime inspired at all. The guy who did all the designs was from Michigan, he was also INSANE. I said Sigma Six, not Renegades. Sigma Six was definitely done by a Japanese studio. As for Transformers Animated, I only made it through to the second episode before I wanted to kill myself, but I don't know how you can look at that pile of trash and see no anime influence there. This just seems like a bizarre level of brand synergy to me. raditts fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Jul 14, 2012 |
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Jul 14, 2012 16:27
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Hmmm... interesting That article posted:In “Phineas and Ferb: Mission Marvel,” Spider-Man, Thor, Iron Man and Hulk arrive in town after their powers are accidentally removed by the evil Dr. Doofenshmirtz. That sounds disturbingly competent for Doof.
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Jul 14, 2012 16:37
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raditts posted:Seems like The Hub has finally grown tired of showing the same handful of episodes of GI Joe Renegades and Transformers Prime over and over, and have started showing GI Joe Sigma Six and Transformers Animated. I remember not liking either of those shows when they came on, but Jesus Christ they are ugly, ugly shows. I'm glad the era of anime dominating US animation blocks is finally in its death throes, that was a terrible decade or so for television. Dan Vs. is the only thing I really watch on the hub.
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Jul 14, 2012 16:47
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Oh sure for the first couple of years it'll all be fun and games and a great lighthearted comic but then Jeph Loeb will get involved and suddenly you've got a dead Phineas and Spiderman while the rest of the living characters have to team up with Candice's half-cyborg future baby to stop Eduardo's trans-dimensional meep army before Doof can sell his soul to devil to get his marriage back.
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Jul 14, 2012 16:52
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thelaughingman posted:Dan Vs. is the only thing I really watch on the hub. If I hadn't happened across Dan Vs. randomly one day and laughed my rear end off I probably would've never watched it, because the commercials made it look like the worst show. Speaking of which, I haven't seen commercials for it in a while, did they cancel it to make room for more Hasbro '80s toy cartoon revivals?
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Jul 14, 2012 18:22
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raditts posted:
Well for one thing, character proportions. You have Sari, while she does have big eyes and the mouth they arn't drawn the way animes eyes or mouths are drawn. It's still definetly a heavily western influenced character other than the possible spikey hair tufts. The rest of the humans are all very geometric based shapes, they're not normal human proportions at all. Granted some heavily stylized anime characters have that type of body too, but if you're talking traditional anime characters, they have functioning topographical anatomy. Yes anime characters have things that end in sharp edges but just because something has sharp edges doesn't make it anime. Then you have stuff like teen titans which mixed the two styles together to a somewhat effective means and then you have Avatar which was definetly 100% anime stylized. I mean compare this:  to something like this  and animated really doesn't look anime at all. Granted Transformers in the 1980's was originally entirely Japanese before it was brought over to America, but Animated was the most western take as far as cell animation goes, with Beast Wars and Beast Machines and the Bay movies probably being the most. But we're to the point where if western animation wants to look or mimic anime it can do so incredibly effectively without halfassing it. Vaerai Archon fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Jul 14, 2012 |
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Jul 14, 2012 18:37
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raditts posted:If I hadn't happened across Dan Vs. randomly one day and laughed my rear end off I probably would've never watched it, because the commercials made it look like the worst show. Speaking of which, I haven't seen commercials for it in a while, did they cancel it to make room for more Hasbro '80s toy cartoon revivals? Not as far as I know. They just finished the second season and the first season is coming out on DVD on the 17th. Vaerai Archon posted:Well for one thing, character proportions. You have Sari, while she does have big eyes and the mouth they arn't drawn the way animes eyes or mouths are drawn. It's still definetly a heavily western influenced character other than the possible spikey hair tufts. (Derrick J. Wyatt) is working on the Ben 10 Omniverse. he was responsible for the character designs on Teen Titans and TFA. thelaughingman fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Jul 14, 2012 |
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Jul 14, 2012 18:59
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thelaughingman posted:(Derrick J. Wyatt) is working on the Ben 10 Omniverse. he was responsible for the character designs on Teen Titans and TFA. Oh hey, another Ben 10 series, like THAT hasn't outstayed it's welcome and it's using the TF:A animation style. That's just fantastic. If I what I want to be reminded of one thing, is how I'm not getting a season four of that show.
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Jul 14, 2012 19:13
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thelaughingman posted:
Yes I know, but the point I was making was that Teen Titans was definetly far more anime influenced than Transformers Animated. Since they use the same artist you can easily compare and contrast the two. That was mostly my basis for saying that Transformers Animated really isn't anime styled mostly because of the previous work he did where it definetly was intended to be anime influenced or styled. Vaerai Archon fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Jul 14, 2012 |
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Jul 14, 2012 19:25
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thelaughingman posted:Dan Vs. is the only thing I really watch on the hub. Oh, Dan Vs. is good? I've never really given it a shot 'cause the commercials didn't really sell it. The only thing I watch on The Hub is old Batman reruns and The Aquabats! Super Show. Speaking of which, everybody should watch The Aquabats! Super Show. Like right now. Go watch it.
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I think you mean The Aquabats! Super Show! Two exclamation points.
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Jul 14, 2012 21:27
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That's one of the ugliest art styles I've ever seen.
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Jul 15, 2012 01:33
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Saying Animated season 2,3 were better than BW season 2,3 is just plain wrong. It had some good ideas but they're all offscreen. I am not counting shoving as many references to the past as possible into the show, putting in every idea that comes to mind, as "good writing". There were a lot of unfunny jokes, things that happened because the plot needed them to, and unlikable characters who had no empathy for anyone like Bulkhead. Explaining any of that would be pointless because this isn't the Transformers thread. But here's an example: Decepticons were supposed to be a bigger threat, Autobots were not built for war, so they needed human villains for the episodes without them. Alright, not bad. this bunch of useless fucks were the human villains they used  It was better than the 3-4 years of anime, but I could not recommend it to anyone who doesn't really like Transformers and playing spot the reference. (And even then, they have to not be that in love with Beast Wars - Animated Rattrap sells information to cons, and Blackarachnia is a self-pitying mess who aggressively uses her sexuality to get what she wants).
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Jul 15, 2012 02:09
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If you told me that picture was from an episode of The Powerpuff Girls that I'd never seen, I wouldn't doubt you one bit.
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Jul 15, 2012 05:02
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raditts posted:If you told me that picture was from an episode of The Powerpuff Girls that I'd never seen, I wouldn't doubt you one bit. The little girl in pink is literally a palette-swap of a Powerpuff Girls villain, right down to having the same voice actress. I've never been a big Transformers fan but probably the only thing I liked a Transformers Animated was Weird Al as Wreck-Gar.
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Jul 15, 2012 05:35
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Okay there was just a short before Young Justice that was like Samurai Champloo style animation but it looked kinda cel shaded. It was an action scene of a tailed thief stealing something and then fighting a guy. I know this is vague as hell but I was so surprised by how awesome the animation looked and it just went by so fast. I'm hoping someone else saw it and knows what I'm talking about. Does anyone know what the hell that was? Is it a new show CN is coming out with or just a short to make me hate them?
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Jul 15, 2012 15:44
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ConanThe3rd posted:Oh hey, another Ben 10 series, like THAT hasn't outstayed it's welcome and it's using the TF:A animation style. That's just fantastic. If I what I want to be reminded of one thing, is how I'm not getting a season four of that show. To be fair, from the video, it looks like it's more in line with the original Ben 10 series which was pretty good. Focusing on Ben as a super hero rather than like, Kevin-Gwen-Ben drama~~
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Jul 15, 2012 15:56
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Sockser posted:To be fair, from the video, it looks like it's more in line with the original Ben 10 series which was pretty good. Focusing on Ben as a super hero rather than like, Kevin-Gwen-Ben drama~~ That doesn't solve the root problem. That it's more Ben 10. There's cheating the Three Season rule and then there's just being obnoxious. ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Jul 15, 2012 |
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Jul 15, 2012 17:12
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Every time a show I like on Cartoon Network is cancelled I blame Ben 10 for still existing even though it's probably not true.ChaosReaper posted:Okay there was just a short before Young Justice that was like Samurai Champloo style animation but it looked kinda cel shaded. It is something called Bat Man of Shanghai. That was a Catwoman one and there will be ones featuring Batman and Bane over the next couple of weeks. All the DC nation shorts could be potential shows but chances are they will not be.
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Jul 15, 2012 18:50
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Robotnik DDS posted:Every time a show I like on Cartoon Network is cancelled I blame Ben 10 for still existing even though it's probably not true I dunno, it's not as if Turner is giving you much room to argue otherwise. Ben 10 is thier Spongebob and at this point I don't know what one is worse.
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Jul 15, 2012 18:57
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I think there are different individual reasons though. I mean Robotomy had animation that was too expensive for the ratings it got. Sym-Bionic Titan was similarly expensive and launched without a toy line to support it. Problem Solverz was too niche/terrifying/great. And I honestly don't think if Ben 10 had gone off the air after a normal run, the marketing resources or ratings would just happen to go to the shows that I like as opposed to Generator Rex or whatever else. Also I would happily let a mediocre show like Ben 10 stay on in perpetuity if I could erase Johnny Test from existence.
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Jul 15, 2012 19:23
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Problem Solverz was awful. I have no idea why people keep saying it's secretly good.
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Jul 15, 2012 19:27
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I don't think it's secretly good I just think it is good. But I mean like the great majority of shows that started out on adult swim it is basically love it or hate it with no middle ground. It also seems like a terrible idea to try to make money based on the idea that it is a thing that kids want to watch in the afternoon.
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Robotnik DDS posted:I don't think it's secretly good I just think it is good.
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Neo Helbeast posted:Problem Solverz was awful. I have no idea why people keep saying it's secretly good. Because if they said it was actually good, they'd (rightfuly) get slapped upside the head. ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Jul 15, 2012 |
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Jul 15, 2012 22:13
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Bunch of videos for TMNT out from SDCC: Opening Title Actual clip from the show 'Meet Kraang' Sizzle reel Comic-Con panel
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Jul 15, 2012 23:30
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Xerox Kopy posted:Oh, Dan Vs. is good? I've never really given it a shot 'cause the commercials didn't really sell it. The only thing I watch on The Hub is old Batman reruns and The Aquabats! Super Show. E: Barudak posted:Oh sure for the first couple of years it'll all be fun and games and a great lighthearted comic but then Jeph Loeb will get involved and suddenly you've got a dead Phineas and Spiderman while the rest of the living characters have to team up with Candice's half-cyborg future baby to stop Eduardo's trans-dimensional meep army before Doof can sell his soul to devil to get his marriage back.
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E: Double post
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Recycle Bin posted:Bunch of videos for TMNT out from SDCC:
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Recycle Bin posted:Bunch of videos for TMNT out from SDCC: I heeeeear Rob Paulson yaaaaaaay.... I'm not especially fond of the Turtles' designs--don't like their bulky limbs, for instance--but, the choreography, writing, and voice work seems solid so far. Things are looking up, overall. And, Splinter's design is awesome, even though he doesn't have Mako's voice.
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Jul 16, 2012 01:34
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It is weird to hear Raphael's voice coming out of Donatello
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Tartarus Sauce posted:I'm not especially fond of the Turtles' designs--don't like their bulky limbs, for instance--but, the choreography, writing, and voice work seems solid so far. Things are looking up, overall. They're so fun to draw, though, which is nice when you're drawing them 10 hours a day. Love 'em or hate 'em, this is the first iteration to give them distinct body shapes. The original series and the 2k3 turtles all had the exact same silhouettes. In this one, Donny is tall and lanky, Raph is bulky, Mikey is short and chubby and Leo (of course) is average. When boarding, we almost never have to explicitly call out which turtle is which 
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I thought the animation was really good, which is more than I can say for some other entirely 3D shows (*cough* Green Lantern *cough). I don't like the gap in Donatello's teeth (or is it a missing tooth? Can't tell.) Seems like it'll be a fun show though.
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Tartarus Sauce posted:I heeeeear Rob Paulson yaaaaaaay.... The costs of having him phone in a voice-acting job from the other side were just too expensive, I'm afraid. Didn't they have Kevin "Elmo" Clash do his voice in the original movie, or was that just the puppeteering?
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