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dexter6
Sep 22, 2003

HorseDickSandwich posted:

I've never set labels in Gmail because I've never really understood the need. I get my fair share of email, and maybe I'm just used to sifting through all of it.

How are you all setting up labels? Is there something I'm missing out on by not categorizing my email? I'm just curious as to how other people use them because I never have.
Labels for me are for different subject areas. Each mailing list I belong to (Rock Climbing Club, Family List Serve, Fire Department List serve, etc.) is a label. Additionally, I have a deals label which marks emails as read and archives them automatically. I use this for things like J. Crew, Groupon, etc. Things I don't need to read, but when I want something I can sift back through this label to see if what I want was sent recently.

The color codes are really cool, and the filters are pretty smart. So I can do things like, if an email contains "XYZ" and/or sent from email address ending in somethingawful.com apply this label and do this.

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luvd
Sep 29, 2011


don't like omelettes but i'll eat crepes all day long
iA Writer is on offer for one more day (I think).

http://www.iawriter.com/

Both Mac and iOS.

pipes!
Jul 10, 2001
Nap Ghost

HorseDickSandwich posted:

I've never set labels in Gmail because I've never really understood the need. I get my fair share of email, and maybe I'm just used to sifting through all of it.

How are you all setting up labels? Is there something I'm missing out on by not categorizing my email? I'm just curious as to how other people use them because I never have.

They play really nice with Filters/Rules. Stuff I need a paper trail for but don't need to actually read gets labeled/tagged in all the appropriate ways and then marked as read and moved out of the Inbox. I also have labels for notifications for all the various social media/web service sites I use, which, when colored, lets me quickly see what needs attention immediately and where, and what can be put off for a bit.

I also know a lot of people use them for statuses for projects, like "Todo," "Followup," etc., but personally I think the stacked conversation view combined with practicing Inbox Zero handles that without the need for extra fussing.

Mass-enabling the Show if Unread in the Label List is also another good way to see what's currently squawking at you.

PunkRockTuba
Apr 29, 2007

Is that you, John Wayne? Is this me?

dexter6 posted:

Labels for me are for different subject areas. Each mailing list I belong to (Rock Climbing Club, Family List Serve, Fire Department List serve, etc.) is a label. Additionally, I have a deals label which marks emails as read and archives them automatically. I use this for things like J. Crew, Groupon, etc. Things I don't need to read, but when I want something I can sift back through this label to see if what I want was sent recently.

The color codes are really cool, and the filters are pretty smart. So I can do things like, if an email contains "XYZ" and/or sent from email address ending in somethingawful.com apply this label and do this.


pipes! posted:

They play really nice with Filters/Rules. Stuff I need a paper trail for but don't need to actually read gets labeled/tagged in all the appropriate ways and then marked as read and moved out of the Inbox. I also have labels for notifications for all the various social media/web service sites I use, which, when colored, lets me quickly see what needs attention immediately and where, and what can be put off for a bit.

I also know a lot of people use them for statuses for projects, like "Todo," "Followup," etc., but personally I think the stacked conversation view combined with practicing Inbox Zero handles that without the need for extra fussing.

Mass-enabling the Show if Unread in the Label List is also another good way to see what's currently squawking at you.

Wow, these are awesome. I guess I've always thought in these ways, but never actually knew to assign specific categories to them. I'm in grad school right now and a label would be an amazing way to keep track of the mounds of poo poo I get for school.

I also really like it for groupons/facebook/twitter etc. especially since you can mark them as read. One of my biggest problems is my inbox is full of poo poo and I would love to be able to have it empty, but still be able to easily access all of the emails when needed.

Shmoogy
Mar 21, 2007
http://www.apple.com/osx/uptodate/

The program is now active:

https://uptodate.apple.com/UtdPrepareAction.action

Don't forget to apply as soon as you can, before you forget!

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.

Shmoogy posted:

http://www.apple.com/osx/uptodate/

The program is now active:

https://uptodate.apple.com/UtdPrepareAction.action

Don't forget to apply as soon as you can, before you forget!

Speaking of, they sure are playing it close with the launch info. We're in the last week of July and there's no mention (right?) of when you can get ML.

decypher
Aug 23, 2003

Who else see da leprechaun say yaaaa!

Feenix posted:

Speaking of, they sure are playing it close with the launch info. We're in the last week of July and there's no mention (right?) of when you can get ML.

Technically, they could wait until Tuesday the 31st, which is a whole week and a day away.

I really hate speculation but my guess is that it'll be released this Wednesday. July 25th was reported by some rumor site this weekend as well, but honestly I thought it would be the last Wednesday of July from the get-go.

The release of the new 'uptodate' website further supports this.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


:siren: Carbon Copy Cloner is no longer donationware :siren:

http://www.bombich.com/software/updates/ccc-3.5.html

The latest version is now commercial ($39.95) but it's only $29.96 until August 12th.

CCC 3.5 works for Snow Leopard, Lion, and Mountain Lion.

You can use it on a 30-day trial. If you paid them a donation in the past, you can email them to get a registration.

Edit: you can still use v.3.4.x versions but they're only qualified for Tiger and Leopard.

Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Jul 23, 2012

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.

decypher posted:

Technically, they could wait until Tuesday the 31st, which is a whole week and a day away.

I really hate speculation but my guess is that it'll be released this Wednesday. July 25th was reported by some rumor site this weekend as well, but honestly I thought it would be the last Wednesday of July from the get-go.

The release of the new 'uptodate' website further supports this.

Oh I know they could release it on the last day and not be "liars". I didn't mean that. I was just shocked they haven't yet *said* when it's coming out, what with only about a week left. :)

wizard sticks
Feb 16, 2005
they took down the update website.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009

Feenix posted:

Oh I know they could release it on the last day and not be "liars". I didn't mean that. I was just shocked they haven't yet *said* when it's coming out, what with only about a week left. :)

Lion was released the day after they announced it in a 'oh hey, Lion goes on sale tomorrow' way.

Shmoogy
Mar 21, 2007

Feenix posted:

Speaking of, they sure are playing it close with the launch info. We're in the last week of July and there's no mention (right?) of when you can get ML.

It's going to be announced during their earnings call tomorrow afternoon and available Wednesday-- the same thing happened with Lion.

e: vv You are correct, mea culpa.

Shmoogy fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jul 23, 2012

Experto Crede
Aug 19, 2008

Keep on Truckin'

Shmoogy posted:

It's going to be announced during their earnings call tomorrow afternoon and available Wednesday-- the same thing happened with Lion.

You assume

(A safe assumption, but don't go stating it as fact)

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Binary Badger posted:

:siren: Carbon Copy Cloner is no longer donationware :siren:

http://www.bombich.com/software/updates/ccc-3.5.html

The latest version is now commercial ($39.95) but it's only $29.96 until August 12th.

CCC 3.5 works for Snow Leopard, Lion, and Mountain Lion.

You can use it on a 30-day trial. If you paid them a donation in the past, you can email them to get a registration.

Edit: you can still use v.3.4.x versions but they're only qualified for Tiger and Leopard.

Welp, back to Super Duper for me

Thoom
Jan 12, 2004

LUIGI SMASH!
Doesn't Super Duper also cost money?

Wario In Real Life
Nov 9, 2009

by T. Finninho
You can clone with SD for free.

Sonic Dude
May 6, 2009

You Am I posted:

Welp, back to Super Duper for me
CCC is worth every cent of $40 $30 on sale. Years of getting it for free (unless you donated) was quite a bonus.

brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer
It's probably worth it if you are a computer janitor and clone drives every day. It is probably not worth it if you just bought an SSD and want to transfer your poo poo one time.

Sonic Dude
May 6, 2009

fleshweasel posted:

It's probably worth it if you are a computer janitor and clone drives every day. It is probably not worth it if you just bought an SSD and want to transfer your poo poo one time.
So use the 30 days you get for free. That should hopefully cover your single use, unless you have an inconceivable amount of data that takes ≥31 days to clone.

kapalama
Aug 15, 2007

:siren:EVERYTHING I SAY ABOUT JAPAN OR LIVING IN JAPAN IS COMPLETELY WRONG, BUT YOU BETTER BELIEVE I'LL :spergin: ABOUT IT.:siren:

PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR IGNORE LIST.

IF YOU SEE ME POST IN A JAPAN THREAD, PLEASE PM A MODERATOR SO THAT I CAN BE BANNED.

You Am I posted:

Welp, back to Super Duper for me

Why use CCC over SuperDuper anyway?

(I Paid for SD long ago, so I have always used it anyway.)

luvd
Sep 29, 2011


don't like omelettes but i'll eat crepes all day long
Is the difference between something like Super Duper and Time Machine that SD gives you more control over your backups? Or is it something more complicated that I'm missing?

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

SuperDuper let's you clone your whole drive manually. This gives you a bootable exact copy of your drive. Time Machine is automated, versioned, incremental backups so you can restore specific files after a crash or retrieve something that you accidentally deleted 10 minutes ago.

zalmoxes
Sep 30, 2009

:eurovision:
Both DiskUtility and dd come with the OS and do the same thing, or is there some reason to have CCC/SuperDuper?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

zalmoxes posted:

Both DiskUtility and dd come with the OS and do the same thing, or is there some reason to have CCC/SuperDuper?

Neither of those are what you would even remotely call 'user friendly'. My mom could use CCC.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Unless it's been tweaked since I last used it, SuperDuper flat out quits if it hits a disk error or says you should take it to a hd recovery specialist or something. CCC logs all I/O errors and saves the exact path of the problem file so you can avoid it or search for backups of it.

Mike Bombich has also tirelessly updated CCC for years, listens to users complaints, and has been great about supporting the drat thing essentially for free; for all the times CCC saved my bacon I thought it was only fair to throw some back at him (I bought it.)

Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Jul 24, 2012

echobucket
Aug 19, 2004
I just found an OS X easter egg. Don't know if this is there is earlier versions, but in the ML GM seed when you are downloading a file, you get a funny modified date on the file.



I had to google the date, and then I laughed.

Sonic Dude
May 6, 2009

Binary Badger posted:

Mike Bombich has also tirelessly updated CCC for years, listens to users complaints, and has been great about supporting the drat thing essentially for free; for all the times CCC saved my bacon I thought it was only fair to throw some back at him (I bought it.)
This is the main point to take away from the discussion.

I also don't know of any application in which you can do a file-level clone, and it moves the recovery partition too. If you're moving to an images or a non-HFS+ drive, it images the partition and throws it in /Library/something/, then automatically puts it back in place when you restore. Pretty awesome, especially if you're buying a new HDD or SSD and want to have the Recovery HD on the new drive as well.

Commercial licenses are expensive, but (again) are worth every penny.

beefnoodle
Aug 7, 2004

IGNORE ME! I'M JUST AN OLD WET RAG

Binary Badger posted:


Mike Bombich has also tirelessly updated CCC for years, listens to users complaints, and has been great about supporting the drat thing essentially for free; for all the times CCC saved my bacon I thought it was only fair to throw some back at him (I bought it.)

This. I bought it as well, having used it most recently just last month when I switched SSDs. I don't mind paying for good software.

It's also on a pre-ML sale for $29.

luvd
Sep 29, 2011


don't like omelettes but i'll eat crepes all day long
Would that be the best way to transfer everything from an old MBP to a new one then?

I was thinking I'd try Time Machine or even just ethernet it across.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009

If you don't need EVERYTHING then Migration Assistant actually does a good job of moving your stuff over.

Experto Crede
Aug 19, 2008

Keep on Truckin'

a bad poster yall posted:

Would that be the best way to transfer everything from an old MBP to a new one then?

I was thinking I'd try Time Machine or even just ethernet it across.

Stick the new macbook in target disk mode, hook it to the old macbook, wipe in disk utility and use CCC to do a bootable backup to the new macbook. When done it'll be hunky spunky.

Thoom
Jan 12, 2004

LUIGI SMASH!
Just make sure the old MBP is running an OS version that came out after the new one was released, otherwise you might be missing drivers.

luvd
Sep 29, 2011


don't like omelettes but i'll eat crepes all day long

Sprat Sandwich posted:

If you don't need EVERYTHING then Migration Assistant actually does a good job of moving your stuff over.

I think this is the best idea then as my current laptop has been with me for 4 years and is cluttered and bloated.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009

Well it does (if you let it) move your settings and apps and their data too, so if your laptop is full of useless/old poo poo it might be better to clean that up a bit before migrating.

With a nice Time Machine back-up at the ready just in case.

Irritated Goat
Mar 12, 2005

This post is pathetic.
No news on Mountain Lion or has the earnings call not happened yet?

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
So when is that earnings call happening?

[ poo poo, beaten. :) ]

FlashBangBob
Jul 5, 2007

BLAM! Internet Found!
Earning Call is after the closing bell, so 4 PM ET.

wolffenstein
Aug 2, 2002
 
Pork Pro
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2012/07/20FY-12-Third-Quarter-Results-Conference-Call.html

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009

FlashBangBob posted:

Earning Call is after the closing bell, so 4 PM ET.

That makes it in three and a half hours, right?

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FlashBangBob
Jul 5, 2007

BLAM! Internet Found!

Sprat Sandwich posted:

That makes it in three and a half hours, right?

Looks like its at 5 PM ET (which is in 4 and a half hours). They announce their earnings in a press release right after the closing bell, then an hour later they talk about it.

Then they release ML.

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