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jadebullet posted:I am guessing that the answer is probably not, but does anyone know if Forgeworld would sell only part of a kit upon request? The reason I ask is that the helmets from the Ravenguard upgrade kit are exactly what I am looking for for my assault marines(corvus pattern, adapted into beaks) but as I am not making a Raven Guard army the shoulder pads and backpack are not needed, and I am not a fan of the bolters. Buy the pack, make a mold of the one bit, cast the bits, return the FW pack. Just be careful with it while it's in your possession. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Ghodfather posted:I keep flirting with the idea of getting into Warhammer. A comic book / gaming store I occasionally visit often has a ton of people playing, and it always fascinates me. The way of easing into is to buy 10-man AOBR Tac squads, or 20-man Ork Boy squads on ebay for relatively cheap to bulk up your forces. It'll give you enough to try out the game, and see if you like it.
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Assault BA with rhinos, razorbacks a LR or two, and space wolf cav as allies. Is this a good idea? I just want to use bear cav and the thunderwolves are basically the same idea. Otherwise my bear cav would just be bikes on 60mm bases. In that case I would want to ally some sweet gunline xenos cause marines are boring as gently caress.
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Deviant posted:Anyone have any scrap green sprue? Necron rods, templates, counters, etc. Need to make more crystals. Sure, soon. Pm me
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So I'm hearing that forge world content is generally reasonable these days. With the proliferation of FW books that have come out over the years, is there a good way of telling which books actually fit this category? I find it incredibly confusing to keep track of if you haven't dropped a lot of money on the books.
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xiw posted:So I'm hearing that forge world content is generally reasonable these days. With the proliferation of FW books that have come out over the years, is there a good way of telling which books actually fit this category? I find it incredibly confusing to keep track of if you haven't dropped a lot of money on the books. I've been wondering this as well. I play imperial armies so are there IG books other than DKoK that are decent? Cataphract posted:Imperial Armour Volume One - Imperial Guard & Imperial Navy Shows what I know, I thought each book did a different race. panascope fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Jul 25, 2012 |
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panascope posted:I've been wondering this as well. I play imperial armies so are there IG books other than DKoK that are decent? Imperial Armour Volume One - Imperial Guard & Imperial Navy Imperial Armour Volume Two - Space Marines & Forces of the Inquisition Imperial Armour Volume Three - The Taros Campaign (Tau, Imperial Guard and Space Marines) Imperial Armour Volume Four - The Anphelion Project (Tyranids, Imperial Guard and Space Marines) Imperial Armour Volume Five - The Siege of Vraks Part One (Death Korps of Krieg, Dark Angels & Chaos Renegades) Imperial Armour Volume Six - The Siege of Vraks Part Two (Death Korps of Krieg & Chaos Renegades) Imperial Armour Volume Seven - The Siege of Vraks Part Three (Space Marines & Chaos Renegades) Imperial Armour Volume Eight - Raid on Kastorel-Novem (Orks, Elysian Drop Troopers & Raven Guard) Imperial Armour Volume Nine - The Badab War Part One (Focusing on renegade and loyal Space Marine Chapters) Imperial Armour Volume Ten - The Badab War Part Two (Focusing on renegade and loyal Space Marine Chapters) Imperial Armour Volume Eleven - The Doom of Mymera (Eldar vs Imperial Guard, Space Wolves) Imperial Armour Aeronautical - Update and compilation of fliers and anti-aircraft units
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Sneaky Homunculus posted:Lurker posting his Space Sharks. These own, Space Sharks own, Terminators own, 40k owns.
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ANAmal.net posted:These own, Space Sharks own, Terminators own, 40k owns. Welp there's a thread title.
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Phyresis posted:How the gently caress are grots BS3 if conscripts are BS2? I've never shot a gun in my life but I'd bet you that I can shoot a laser gun better than a god drat goblin. There was an 40K CJ article about Frateris Militia from back in the day that had humans at BS2.
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I am so stoked for the new chaos codex! They were my favourite army but I really lost interest in them with the latest codex as the amount of variation they had got cut out. All I really want from the new codex is for Defilers to become better (I love the model), and for Cultists to have the detonate ability like in Dawn of War 2. But I feel like if I can make a cultist explode, a cultist will explode every turn. BOOM! Why did you detonate that cultist? It's first turn and you are nowhere near me! Because I can! BOOM! Fashionable Jorts fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Jul 25, 2012 |
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Flying Guillotine posted:There was an 40K CJ article about Frateris Militia from back in the day that had humans at BS2. Yeah, I have the WD wherein the Sisters of Battle were unveiled for the first time and the Frateris Militia are basically white grots, but with less coordination.
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Speaking of IA stuff, I heard rumors that the next book was going to be Necrons and some chapter of Marines. Has that released yet? Curious to see what new Necron stuff they come out with.
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Dominion posted:Welp there's a thread title. ANAmal.net posted:These own, Space Sharks own, Terminators own, 40k owns, we owe. There we go.
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I just played a match against Orks with my Tyranids. The Swarmlord, a Trygon Prime, and a Tervigon were clustered enough to all be under a large blast template. My opponent shot at it with the Shokk Attack Gun. He rolled double sixes. In one fell swoop over 700 points of giant bugs were gone. Also, at the start of my turn one, that Tervigon spawned 3 termigants. He also stole the initiative. 
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Master Twig posted:I just played a match against Orks with my Tyranids. The Swarmlord, a Trygon Prime, and a Tervigon were clustered enough to all be under a large blast template. My opponent shot at it with the Shokk Attack Gun. He rolled double sixes. In one fell swoop over 700 points of giant bugs were gone. Who the hell takes the Swarmlord to a 700 point match?  VVV Ah OK, I read the points and saw the Swarmlord and was very confused for a minute. bhsman fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Jul 25, 2012 |
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bhsman posted:Who the hell takes the Swarmlord to a 700 point match? It was an 1850 game. The swarmlord is 280, the Trygon Prime 240, and the way I was running the Tervigon had him around 200. That's 700 points worth of creatures killed by a 95 point model. At that point all I had left was my Hive Guard and a winged Hive Tyrant, plus a spore full of devilgaunts who had yet to show up.
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Hey, how long does it take for an order to ship from Dicebucket? The basic prices seem pretty good, but I wanna know how much it all comes out to if I don't want it to take forever to get here.
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Just picked up a ravenwing pack and a space marine commander on a bike to ally into my IG. Gonna have a biker gang with meltas on the loose, and it will be glorious 
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Sorry for the incoming wall of text, but I had my first proper win with Dark Eldar last night, against my fellow noob Space Marine player. yay! Super short battle report: Lots of Raiders (DE transport), moved around and outflanked Marines that didn't move much, Marines missed lots of heavy weapons rolls, Dark Eldar assaulted off vehicles and wiped out terminators The longer battle report: I used 3 Raiders stuffed with Kabalite Warriors, 1 Venom with Wyches, 4 Scourges and 1 Raider with Archon, 4 Incubu and 5 Wracks (new models I wanted to try out, also I'm not sure I was allowed to put 2 units on 1 transport); Marines had 2 Terminator squads with Cyclone missiles, 2 tac squads and one Devastator heavy weapons squad. No objectives, just annihilation and more rules learning. Tactical error right at the start: Placed covering terrain too far forward. I should have put them no more than 12" from the table edge to keep everything in cover. Marines won initiative and deployed fully behind cover, I was able to place the transports so only a couple of shots were able to be taken in the first round. First couple of rounds involved movement, Marines moved up and didn't realize the Heavy weapons fire snap shots if they move, so he was only able to knock 1 hull point off a Raider. I then moved the Raiders from cover to cover, taking out one Terminator with a Cyclone missile and a couple of tactical Marines. Marines didn't move the following turn so they could shoot their heavies, which all missed except wrecking a Raider so the troopers disembarked into a crater-filled ruin, then the Raiders and Venom started taking out the Heavy weapons squad and tac squad. The dreaded Orbital Bombardment completely missed and the Scourges and a Raider started moving to outflank on the right while staying completely hidden by cover. Marines still didn't move that much, which was a mistake because they were bunched up, and the Raiders moved up to do broadsides on the tactical squads and Devastators, which forced two of them into falling back, one of which went completely off the board (yay first kill point). Just before the Wyches assaulted the Marine commander had to leave, his girlfriend was picking him up (seriously), so I continued the game since it was just down to assaults at this time, and I needed the practice, having never done assaults off vehicles. The Terminators were bottlenecked in building alleyways, but the Wyches assaulted, didn't take any out but the Chapter Master and his Terminators moved in and killed 4 Wyches in one go from the Chapter Master. I should have rolled for Leadership but it wouldn't have mattered, the last Wych died the following turn. Then the Archon and Incubi moved in. I didn't realize it when I selected them, but the Incubi's power weapon and the power fist on the Archon drop their initiative to 1, but then the chain fist does the same thing so it evened out. The Incubi killed 2 and the terminators killed 2, then the Archon dropped the Chapter Master in one attack, doing 3 wounds to the Chapter Master's 2, which the Archon's clonefield ignored. Then the Wracks moved in on the same squad the Wyches had attacked, one from each side died in the initial assault but by then it was all over. Slaves and the recently dead taken back to Comorragh, etc., etc. Lessons learned/remembered: Premeasuring attack LOS before moving is a good thing Wyches (or any unit) can disembark, toss grenades then assault out of open-top vehicles My Incubi and Archon (when equipped with power fist) have Initiative 1 (Unwieldy), so Archon should use the huskblade and/or agonizer to get his I7 back Wyches can really hold up a big group with their 4+ Invulnerable in close combat Twin-linked weapons don't roll 2 dice, they just reroll misses 40 splinter rifle shots against Terminators don't do a whole lot Terminators have 5++ vs Dark Lances Wound allocation still kills a guy if there are only 4 models, 5 wounds and 4 saves Assault wound allocation is a bitch, even killing models if they are nowhere near the killing model Need to remember Leadership tests at the end of each close combat
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Deviant posted:Anyone have any scrap green sprue? Necron rods, templates, counters, etc. Need to make more crystals. These guys have got you covered. Also, I think I love you. I am currently getting together some 1/48 and 1/72 scale vehicles to make my own Brotherhood of Nod force. Are you looking to do the same, or go GDI? Thinking of having my force have weapons from between Tiberian Sun, and Tiberian Wars. Modern, but not too futuristic. Troops will come from Mantic's Corporation dudes, and Defiance Miniatures Germans whenever they pull their finger out and get them done.
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krushgroove posted:My Incubi and Archon (when equipped with power fist) have Initiative 1 (Unwieldy), so Archon should use the huskblade and/or agonizer to get his I7 back Whoa whoa whoa. How the gently caress are you equipping a power fist on an Archon? Do you see the list of Options for the Archon on page 84? That's what you can purchase for an Archon. I don't see power fist on that list. Power fists are a loving Imperial weapon (the Chaos Space Marines stole some.  ) We don't let dirty stinking elves have that poo poo. And where are you getting the impression that Incubi have Unwieldy weapons? Klaives are +1S, AP3, Melee, two-handed. Not Unwieldy.
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ImperialGuard posted:Hey, how long does it take for an order to ship from Dicebucket? The basic prices seem pretty good, but I wanna know how much it all comes out to if I don't want it to take forever to get here. Usually takes a couple/few days to actually ship, and then normal shipping times after that. I think I ended up getting my stuff around a week later each time.
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Phyresis posted:Whoa whoa whoa. How the gently caress are you equipping a power fist on an Archon? Do you see the list of Options for the Archon on page 84? That's what you can purchase for an Archon. I don't see power fist on that list. Power fists are a loving Imperial weapon (the Chaos Space Marines stole some. Sorry - it's a power something, the old metal model comes with it. DE codex says 'power weapon' is an option for the Archon, and the model has a huge hand claw thing. The rules say go with what is on the model so I went with power fist, maybe it should have been power klaw, but they have the same stats anyway (melee, specialist, unwieldy). As for the klaives, the codex says 'Klaives are power weapons that confer +1 S' as you say, but again for power weapons the 6th ed book says 'look at the model' and 'if it's an axe or haldberd, it's a power axe', so I went with the stats for Power Axe. Am I reading the book too literally? I don't want to try to cheat my friends but I don't want to shaft myself either.
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krushgroove posted:Sorry - it's a power something, the old metal model comes with it. DE codex says 'power weapon' is an option for the Archon, and the model has a huge hand claw thing. The rules say go with what is on the model so I went with power fist, maybe it should have been power klaw, but they have the same stats anyway (melee, specialist, unwieldy). Power fist isn't an option. On page 61 of the BRB, you will see that there are four types of power weapons: sword, axe (the Unwieldy one), maul/staff, and lance. Klaives are "unusual power weapons" which are also explained on that page, and clarified in the FAQ (which you definitely need to read and keep on hand.) They certainly aren't axes, every mention of them says they are blades/swords and they don't look like anything like axes. Axes have a haft and are primarily crushing weapons. You don't have to hamstring yourself by forcing yourself to take the upgrades that are actually modelled on your Archon. Why are you assuming that that stupid hand claw thing is a power weapon? Why does it have to be anything? It's just some dumb claw. Just get whatever options you want. You are definitely shafting yourself at the moment. Sorry if I came off a bit harshly; I just want to make sure you're clear on this weapon stuff.
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Only plain power weapons get the axe/spear/sword/maul thing. If its got its own name, it uses its rules and defaults to AP3. Since Klaives are Klaives, and not just a generic power weapon, they don't get to be axes. Power fists are also not listed in that section, so I'm not sure where you got power weapon = power fist. You could, however, buy a power weapon for the Archon and model it as a sword/axe/whatever, but power fists and klaws are not the same thing as power weapons. Husk blades or an Agoniser are probably a better bet.
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krushgroove posted:1 Raider with Archon, 4 Incubu and 5 Wracks (new models I wanted to try out, also I'm not sure I was allowed to put 2 units on 1 transport); Not to jump on the bandwagon (especially since I don't play Dark Eldar) but I'm pretty sure you can't do this either.
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krushgroove posted:40 splinter rifle shots against Terminators don't do a whole lot I meant to offer some advice about this as well. PeterWeller disagrees with me, but I think splinter weapons are crap for the most part (except for double cannon Venoms.) If you crunch the numbers they just aren't impressive. They're like bolters that are better at wounding Monstrous Creatures and the occasional T5 unit but can't shoot down vehicles. 10 Warriors in a Raider shoot 20 poison shots (assuming blaster + cannon) = 13.333 hits = 6.666 wounds = 1.111 dead Terminators or 2.222 dead Space Marines per broadside (plus the blaster kill). It's just not that impressive. That unit plus ride costs 175 points and is almost certainly going to die next turn. I just don't think that's the right way to play Dark Eldar. What's the correct way? I have no idea, but the new Eldar Codex should help a lot.
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OK, I gotcha - I need to read the FAQ more closely and make notes in the codex for sure. This was the first time I've been able to assault in a while, and I thought that the klaives were standard power weapons. On the Archon sometimes I use the power(claw/whatever) as the generic option, but I do prefer the huskblade/agonizer combo - the only thing about that is I don't know how to split the attacks between the two, or if they need to be split up, because one does instant death. e: On the broadsides, I used that math hammer site someone gave me a while back to do the numbers and yeah it's not impressive. It really hit home when I watched a DE vs Necron batrep on Miniwargaming.com last week, the guy took shitloads of Venoms and a Ravager or two and wiped the table clean of Necrons. And apparently a lot of players are scared when they see a case full of Venoms get opened up. All I've got right now are a bunch of Raiders and one Venom, plus an unbuilt Ravager so I'm trying to figure out how to load out the Raiders with Wyches (I only have 15 at the moment) for best effect. It worked out this time but against better players I'll have a tough time. CyberLord XP - Yeah I've updated my list already, I only realized the error after the 2 units had disembarked. I was more excited to learn that Wych assaults hadn't been screwed over, really. krushgroove fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Jul 25, 2012 |
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krushgroove posted:On the Archon sometimes I use the power(claw/whatever) as the generic option, but I do prefer the huskblade/agonizer combo - the only thing about that is I don't know how to split the attacks between the two, or if they need to be split up, because one does instant death. You have to pick one or the other before you attack. Some special unique weapons allow you to split your attacks between two modes but those are very rare and it will be stated clearly that they can do so. I don't like huskblades because the Archon is only S3; anything worth instant killing (which isn't a whole lot, frankly) is going to be T4 or higher, more likely a T6 Monstrous Creature. I would go venom blade + agoniser. You use the agoniser vs. Space Marines and the venom blade vs. Terminators and really crappy guys. I really like Lelith now, but she might be a bit too expensive. Eternal Warrior would have been nice (but impossible because GW allocates that USR for fluff reasons now) but she does have a pretty decent save and AP1. It's just a shame that she gets splatted by, well, everything. e: Get a couple of Razorwings ASAP. They are like the best thing Dark Eldar have at the moment. Phyresis fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Jul 25, 2012 |
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Venoms were great last edition when you could have Ravagers and Blasterborn demech everything and then clear up the tiny 5man squads of MEQ (which were well out of their melta range) with splinter cannons while the Wracks inside the Venoms scored for you. Now with infantry being more viable, hull points being a thing (and Venoms only having 2 with AV10) and 3-man units of Wracks not really cutting it for anything except sitting at the back and hiding and hoping nothing comes near them, Venoms are a lot less viable and I don't rate them much any more.
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Infantry becoming more viable and vehicles becoming more fragile hurt Dark Eldar, imo. Their Troops rank down at the bottom with Eldar and Tau and I'm not sure what they are supposed to do anymore. They have the worst allies chart besides lolnids. One battle brother with even shittier Troops and a bunch of desperate allies that can't score. Fantastic. There is no way a Kabalite Warrior is worth 9 points. Maybe 7.
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Phyresis posted:You have to pick one or the other before you attack. Some special unique weapons allow you to split your attacks between two modes but those are very rare and it will be stated clearly that they can do so. OK that's another note for my growing list of notes quote:e: Get a couple of Razorwings ASAP. They are like the best thing Dark Eldar have at the moment. Oh man another thing I have to buy... OTOH, flyers!
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Phyresis posted:Infantry becoming more viable and vehicles becoming more fragile hurt Dark Eldar, imo. Their Troops rank down at the bottom with Eldar and Tau and I'm not sure what they are supposed to do anymore. They have the worst allies chart besides lolnids. One battle brother with even shittier Troops and a bunch of desperate allies that can't score. Fantastic. There is no way a Kabalite Warrior is worth 9 points. Maybe 7. Again, they were fine last edition when you paid like 60pts for 5 and a blaster and then put them in a boat. 5-man units of GEQ aren't great this edition and Wyches in particular have been hit HARD by 6th - Overwatch is pretty brutal for them, their charge distance is a lot riskier and overall shorter, FNP is generally worse for them because they're T3 so lose it more often than Marines etc. do, Agonisers are only AP3. I'm really unconvinced by DE in this edition, I hit on one list which sort of worked but I'm having more fun playing Deathwing than I was with DE. The allies chart being purely about fluff, apparently decided on by two different people (one of whom is one of those huge loving nerds who gets upset by stuff like Orks and IG allying because they NEVER would, EVER, EVER, no your fluff examples don't COUNT, anyway no one would do it PROPERLY, they NEVER would), is a total pain in the balls.
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Did the Talos or Chronos improve in 6th, or are they still pretty poo poo?
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Corrode posted:The allies chart being purely about fluff, apparently decided on by two different people (one of whom is one of those huge loving nerds who gets upset by stuff like Orks and IG allying because they NEVER would, EVER, EVER, no your fluff examples don't COUNT, anyway no one would do it PROPERLY, they NEVER would), is a total pain in the balls. What the poo poo is this? Do Blood Axes not exist or something? IT'S IN THEIR loving CODEX. Not to mention the even fluffier option of Komandeering a large amount of Imperial Guard gear and vehicles and Orking them up.
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Phyresis posted:Komandeering a large amount of Imperial Guard gear and vehicles and Orking them up. Yeah pretty sure any allies I run with my Orks will mostly be Orks with stolen gear.
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CyberLord XP posted:Yeah pretty sure any allies I run with my Orks will mostly be Orks with stolen gear. I'm excited for rebel grots and necrorks.
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