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thexerox123 posted:I think that's a separate issue, which is lack of innovation. The internet/smartphones/tablets should be vastly changing print journalism, but news organizations seem to make it an afterthought. Worrying about the cost of staples really doesn't need to be relevant anymore. I wouldn't exactly call livestreaming a positive innovation. Rolling news coverage is one of the reasons for why news is so poo poo nowadays.
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Kin posted:I wouldn't exactly call livestreaming a positive innovation. Rolling news coverage is one of the reasons for why news is so poo poo nowadays. I would argue that the two examples I used for livestreams aren't handled in the same negative way as 24-hour news coverage in general, but that is probably fairly debatable. Either way, though, that just makes the list of genuine news innovation even shorter.
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Joe Swash on million pound drop is quite something, a real blow for charities though.
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thexerox123 posted:I would argue that the two examples I used for livestreams aren't handled in the same negative way as 24-hour news coverage in general, but that is probably fairly debatable. They produce the same effect. The constant and needless drive to push out information every minute of the day shifting the priority from producing high quality, researched, periodical journalism to producing minute by minute updates that don't offer any real insight to the happenings. We don't need live streams for news coverage because, unsurprisingly, it's not often that newsworthy information occurs every minute. If quality and research were still considered worthy investments in general journalism, the various news stations would have multiple boots on the ground gathering and reporting information in a coherent manner so that every hour we could be told of any notable things that happened. Instead they've opted for the cheaper live streams so that we can see the "dramatic" events unfold as they happen, pimping them to the drama loving addicts that fill this country. If bias is an issue, people still have the means to capture and provide their own content. In fact, despite all of these live streams, it seems that the majority of evidence of oppressive and authoritative abuse on citizens is coming from the citizens themselves. If you're looking for actual innovation in journalism, it's come in the form of putting the camera in the hands of the public. We just need to get some "professional" journalists to actually loving report on it now.
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Kin posted:If bias is an issue, people still have the means to capture and provide their own content. In fact, despite all of these live streams, it seems that the majority of evidence of oppressive and authoritative abuse on citizens is coming from the citizens themselves. That's exactly what i was already saying. The Livestream HD broadcasting backpacks were given out to actual members of the Occupy public who already had good, established streams. Hell, Occupy is pretty much the best example for this sort of thing: http://occupystreams.org/ A bunch of people were following the streams here on the forums, collating and commenting on news from all different sources, and keeping up on the various live feeds. It was far more enriching, engaging, and informative than any news broadcast could possibly be. These aren't 24-hour news streams, Livestream isn't a news site at all... but they're examples of what you're saying, during exceptional situations. AJE's net stream for Egypt's uprising was also partly right on the ground (not sure it was in public hands, though). & even just AJE's stream of above Tahrir square was useful for putting international eyes on the situation. thexerox123 fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jul 29, 2012 |
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I've become obsessed with Wallander. Finished watching all the UK episodes yesterday and now I'm moving on to the Swedish version. There are 26 episodes in 2 series all almost 90 minutes. I'm crying.
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Metrication posted:I've become obsessed with Wallander. Finished watching all the UK episodes yesterday and now I'm moving on to the Swedish version. There are 26 episodes in 2 series all almost 90 minutes. I'm crying. Just you wait. Your desire for desperately bleak Nordic crime drama will soon take over your life. Next it'll be Forbrydelsen. Then Borgen. Then The Bridge. And then you'll start going about in horrible knitted jumpers and saying "Tak".
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Junkenstein posted:Haha. Well done Danny Boyle. You know you did something right when stuff like this starts appearing. Every now and again, those witless bastards totally out do themselves. But, as Sion says, there would be people crunching their toast this morning nodding along to this article. Its a bit chicken and egg, did they already believe itt, or has it been conditioned into them? I also wonder if they will still be bleating about banana republics when we need to use Weimar leveles of bloody cash to buy a loaf or some milk.
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marktheando posted:Did people really like the bit with the Queen? I found it horribly embarrassing and awful.
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Irisi posted:Just you wait. Your desire for desperately bleak Nordic crime drama will soon take over your life. Next it'll be Forbrydelsen. Then Borgen. Then The Bridge. And then you'll start going about in horrible knitted jumpers and saying "Tak". I still well up occasionally upon thinking of The Bridge. That's not normal, is it?
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Benzene posted:I still well up occasionally upon thinking of The Bridge. That's not normal, is it? Of course it is. Saga. 
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Hoops posted:The entire ceremony was at once embarassing, inspiring, awful, great, confusing and made perfect sense all at the same time. I've genuinely never seen any creative offering that was like it. There was that one time when wee Jimmy Krankie fell off a beanstalk and broke 'his' leg.
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Kin posted:If you're looking for actual innovation in journalism, it's come in the form of putting the camera in the hands of the public. We just need to get some "professional" journalists to actually loving report on it now. Mr Curtis agrees
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Irisi posted:Just you wait. Your desire for desperately bleak Nordic crime drama will soon take over your life. Next it'll be Forbrydelsen. Then Borgen. Then The Bridge. And then you'll start going about in horrible knitted jumpers and saying "Tak". Oh I just finished series 1 of Borgen on DVD. It was brilliant! What other nordic drama would yous suggest?
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Heavy_D posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9FaIyc4vpU Adam Curtis is so great. Anybody who hasn't watched The Power of Nightmares should, it's fascinating/terrifying.
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Leyburn posted:A mixed race couple? Outrageous guardian propaganda. I think you mean the Grauniad  also, that article has been edited now, but when it first came out there were two paragraphs near the end that started differently but ended with the exact same sentence. Quality control from the Mail 
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They actually removed that line about the mixed race couple it seems http://botherer.org/2012/07/28/the-daily-mail-and-how-an-nhs-death-means-racism-is-fine/
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Metrication posted:I've become obsessed with Wallander. Finished watching all the UK episodes yesterday and now I'm moving on to the Swedish version. There are 26 episodes in 2 series all almost 90 minutes. I'm crying. Some fucker told me the UK Wallander was poo poo so I didn't watch it until they started showing season 3 on the beeb and it's amazing! Have you watched the movies? I really like Krister Henriksson in the TV show so I was a bit sad that they got that massive ham for the movies (Sebastian Bergman is pretty skippable imho). Although I didn't like the way they took the Isabelle Melin character in the second season (is it the same in the books?) Anyone who likes Nordic crime-y stuff should check out the Headhunter's movie, it's really fantastic and came out subbed in the UK a few months ago so it shouldn't be that hard to find.
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marktheando posted:Did people really like the bit with the Queen? I found it horribly embarrassing and awful. Yeah, same but nearly all of it. The torch and the NHS bit were nice I guess? It just wasn't very impressive. Then again the reasons why I didn't enjoy it seem to be the same qualities people claimed make it 'quintessentially british' or some poo poo. 
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Haha, oh yeah those guys. It's weird that for something that can be so full of really bizarre decisions, the worst one was making those guys try and dance.
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Hoops posted:Haha, oh yeah those guys. It's weird that for something that can be so full of really bizarre decisions, the worst one was making those guys try and dance. The worst one was making them hold back. They should have stripped down to waistcoats and done the automaton, like original Industrial Era Tycoons.
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It made a pleasant change from stuff like trooping of the colour, and all that stuff. It may have been a little confusing for some lad in the Soloman Islands to watch, but for what it was, it was enjoyable. Lets face it, it could have been far, far worse. Also, as I spend plenty of time in the condition, I'm used to being confused. I must admit, the dancing industrialists did remind me of Electric 6's Gay Bar video, though.
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Rolled Cabbage posted:Some fucker told me the UK Wallander was poo poo so I didn't watch it until they started showing season 3 on the beeb and it's amazing! Have you watched the movies? I really like Krister Henriksson in the TV show so I was a bit sad that they got that massive ham for the movies (Sebastian Bergman is pretty skippable imho). Although I didn't like the way they took the Isabelle Melin character in the second season (is it the same in the books?) Haven't watched the films... I will add it to the list !
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That's the best drat rock bending I've seen since 2010.
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le chat posted:Yeah, same but nearly all of it. The torch and the NHS bit were nice I guess? It just wasn't very impressive. Then again the reasons why I didn't enjoy it seem to be the same qualities people claimed make it 'quintessentially british' or some poo poo. Is it just me or he riffing pretty hard on Metropolis? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPNaaogT8fs) Maybe Aiden Burley was on to something.
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I really enjoyed the opening, as I was terrified that it would be awful. I was getting annoyed at the queen though, she looked so loving grumpy the whole time, for the world to see. Smile! Wave! I know you are old as gently caress, and Andrew's viagra is running low but stop looking so pissed off  .
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henpod posted:I really enjoyed the opening, as I was terrified that it would be awful. You mean phillip, right? 
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It's the loving queen mate, don't try and jolly along her maj.
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My expression was the same when we showed the entire world our wanky boring soap opera clips.
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This week's Bug is worth checking out, the best youtube comments so far and a pretty nice counting song by Buxton accompanied by a Cyriak video.
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incredible bear posted:This week's Bug is worth checking out, the best youtube comments so far and a pretty nice counting song by Buxton accompanied by a Cyriak video. "It's breakcore you fucknose!"
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Did anyone else notice the Mass Effect Galaxy Map Theme playing in the mission control scene right at the start of the newest Horizon? Have there ever been any other examples of video game music subtly slipped into TV? My girlfriend thought I was having a fit when I twigged it.
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It used the Illusive Man theme, too, at the end of the section on those microbes in the acidic river. Two of my favourite pieces of Mass Effect music! Made me pretty nostalgic for ME2.
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7seven7 posted:Did anyone else notice the Mass Effect Galaxy Map Theme playing in the mission control scene right at the start of the newest Horizon? Have there ever been any other examples of video game music subtly slipped into TV? My girlfriend thought I was having a fit when I twigged it. I think Death March from Red Alert was on Top Gear once.
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incredible bear posted:This week's Bug is worth checking out, the best youtube comments so far and a pretty nice counting song by Buxton accompanied by a Cyriak video. Uh, where do I go to see that?
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If you have Sky Atlantic, they show it throughout the week, and is probably on Anytime.
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Junkenstein posted:I think Death March from Red Alert was on Top Gear once. Hell March you NUMPTY 
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HoldYourFire posted:Hell March you NUMPTY Yeah, it is called Hell March.
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This will always be the best reappropriation of music for me.
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