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Beef Hardcheese
Jan 21, 2003

HOW ABOUT I LASH YOUR SHIT


I picked this up on the Steam sale, and was wondering what general opinion was regarding keyboard + mouse versus a 360 controller for GTA 4. I like and am used to the former, but I played this a bit on the 360 when it first came out and really liked the analog triggers and more sensitive joysticks.

Edit: I should add that I don't actually own a 360 controller, so I guess my question really is "Does a controller make the game play $40 better?"

Beef Hardcheese fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Jul 24, 2012

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Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Install Gentoo posted:

Both VC and SA had the luxury of taking all the best music of the general time period they were set in and putting it together.

Vice City, for example, was set in 1986, but the music used comes from 1981-1989. San Andreas is set in 1992 but music used (not counting the country station which goes back farther) but has music from between 1986 and 1994 in it.

Meanwhile, IV was set in 2008 and released in 2008. Obviously couldn't use future music. There was the 80s station and the classic rock station which had significantly older music, but otherwise everything else was stuff from between 2004 and 2008. Smaller time to select from and all.

Liberty Rock was loving boss, but it was weird how you had stuff like "Goodbye Horses" and "Mama" on the same station. It was like they had some random poo poo that didn't fit any other station and just stuck it there.

I just hope that when V hits we get a really awesome West Coast focused G-Funk/Rap station.

Fayez Butts
Aug 24, 2006

Simon Draskovic posted:

I picked this up on the Steam sale, and was wondering what general opinion was regarding keyboard + mouse versus a 360 controller for GTA 4. I like and am used to the former, but I played this a bit on the 360 when it first came out and really liked the analog triggers and more sensitive joysticks.

Edit: I should add that I don't actually own a 360 controller, so I guess my question really is "Does a controller make the game play $40 better?"

I bought the game on Xbox day one then got it on a computer a year later. I'd have to say that the mouse and keyboard controls are pretty much perfect.

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot

Simon Draskovic posted:

I picked this up on the Steam sale, and was wondering what general opinion was regarding keyboard + mouse versus a 360 controller for GTA 4. I like and am used to the former, but I played this a bit on the 360 when it first came out and really liked the analog triggers and more sensitive joysticks.

Edit: I should add that I don't actually own a 360 controller, so I guess my question really is "Does a controller make the game play $40 better?"

No, it's not $40 better. The only thing a gamepad is good for in GTA is those times when you want to relax and cruise around slowly.

That said, a gamepad is worth owning in general, there are plenty of games where you'll get SOME use out of it. You also don't have to get a $40 360 controller. If I were buying one now, I'd probably go for one of those $25 PDP PS3 wired controllers and use MotionInJoy.

davebo
Nov 15, 2006

Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito
College Slice
Having a PS2 controller for driving in San Andreas then switching to mouse/kb for walking was great, but going from ps3 gta4 to just m/kb on the pc, the only thing I missed was an analog accelerator. Now that you can actually free look in a car the mouse is handy.

Mice Everywhere
Sep 7, 2007

I love animal porn! So F* you if you don't accept that!
If V has a bunch of countryside then I hope it has a cheesy country music station like SA. I don't even particularly like country music, but when you're in the middle of nowhere on a motorcycle it just feels so right.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

It feels right when you roll through the Las Venturas strip on a Freeway too :clint:

mayodreams
Jul 4, 2003


Hello darkness,
my old friend
I play the GTA III games with only a mouse and keyboard, but with GTA IV, i use the 360 pad for driving because I found the keyboard cumbersome for it.

I don't even like country, but I'd rock K-Rose on a freeway in the country side and just tool around. Driving around Vice City and listening to the amazing music is one of my favorite gaming memories.

AngryCaterpillar
Feb 1, 2007

I DREW THIS

Mike Tysons CARFAX posted:

Is there any hope that actual gameplay could look this good? The answer is no, right?

I can't imagine the 360 or PS3 being able to handle this. Please tell me I'm wrong

Perhaps if some effort is put into a Wii U port?

widunder
May 2, 2002
I just finished Donald Love's missions in GTA III for the iPad and I suggest that people complaining about the driving in GTA IV go play some GTA III.

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



K-rose is one of the best channels rockstar has made.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

nemoulette posted:

I just finished Donald Love's missions in GTA III for the iPad and I suggest that people complaining about the driving in GTA IV go play some GTA III.

While I agree GTA IV driving is better than the III-era's driving; judging against the way you have to play the iPhone/iPad/Android version is just plain unfair to III. Driving was a lot better on PS2/Xbox 1 controllers or the PC - although not as good as GTA IV.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

Zedd posted:

K-rose is one of the best channels rockstar has made.

Yeah I'm not a country fan at all (except for some of the older stuff ala New Vegas' radio). But K- Rose is just a beautiful mix of really good songs. I ended up finding the soundtrack box but really only listen to the Vrock and K-Rose discs.

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

Man, GTA2 is more brutal than I remembered. $50,000 to save your game? $5,000 to get your car resprayed? Limited lives? No in-game map? :gonk: (I wandered aimlessly for like half an hour looking for the save point until I pulled up an online map on my phone, really would have appreciated an arrow pointing at the church at all times)

Even if I'm completely spoiled by modern games, it's still a lot of fun to play this and cause all kinds of mayhem while listening to the excellent radio stations. My favorite is probably Heavenly Radio with its completely ridiculous Christian pop. (:buddy:: "JE-SUS MY SAVIOR, MY FAVORITE FLAVOR!")

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Dr. Ohnoman posted:

Man, GTA2 is more brutal than I remembered. $50,000 to save your game? $5,000 to get your car resprayed? Limited lives? No in-game map? :gonk: (I wandered aimlessly for like half an hour looking for the save point until I pulled up an online map on my phone, really would have appreciated an arrow pointing at the church at all times)

Even if I'm completely spoiled by modern games, it's still a lot of fun to play this and cause all kinds of mayhem while listening to the excellent radio stations. My favorite is probably Heavenly Radio with its completely ridiculous Christian pop. (:buddy:: "JE-SUS MY SAVIOR, MY FAVORITE FLAVOR!")

Hey, GTA 1 didn't even have save points while in the levels! GTA 2 is considerably less brutal since saving exists at all.

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

Install Gentoo posted:

Hey, GTA 1 didn't even have save points while in the levels! GTA 2 is considerably less brutal since saving exists at all.
I completely forgot GTA 1 only allowed saving between levels. I haven't played it in an even longer time than 2, except for a very brief test run when I got it on Steam a couple of years ago.

Ron Burgundy
Dec 24, 2005
This burrito is delicious, but it is filling.

Dr. Ohnoman posted:

really would have appreciated an arrow pointing at the church at all times)

The TV truck antenna always points to the church.

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

Ron Burgundy posted:

The TV truck antenna always points to the church.
Oh hey, that's good to know. Thanks, maybe the next time I play I won't be as hopelessly lost.

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.
The worst thing about the San Andreas boxset is that it completely misses out SFUR, which is a shame because I always thought that DJ was hilarious.

GyverMac
Aug 3, 2006
My posting is like I Love Lucy without the funny bits. Basically, WAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAHHH
HHHHHHHHHHHHHH

DrVenkman posted:

The worst thing about the San Andreas boxset is that it completely misses out SFUR, which is a shame because I always thought that DJ was hilarious.

Hahaha, yeah thats the radio with that crazy german dj. I hope it makes a return in GTA 5.

sirbeefalot
Aug 24, 2004
Fast Learner.
Fun Shoe

Knightmare posted:

For the other dude playing with the FPS mod, did you ever find a decent car interiors texture pack that works?

I honestly haven't looked for one yet. Haven't had much time for the game in the past week or so.

Creature
Mar 9, 2009

We've already seen a dead horse

Mice Everywhere posted:

If V has a bunch of countryside then I hope it has a cheesy country music station like SA. I don't even particularly like country music, but when you're in the middle of nowhere on a motorcycle it just feels so right.

There's nothing like cruising around the countryside in a ute listening to 'Horse With No Name'. :)

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

Welp, I'm glad I actually decided to look up the San Andreas sidequest rewards before going off to spray over all the gang tags in Los Santos. I thought the reward for that was infinite sprint, but apparently that's in Saints Row 1 instead and in SA you get the infinite sprint from doing burglary missions.

Also, I finally got to experience the sheer joy that is flipping your fire truck ten levels into the firefighter side mission, with ten minutes on the clock and no hurry whatsoever. "Eh, I'll just cut through here, I'll save a couple of secOH gently caress PLEASE DON'T FLIP OH poo poo NOOOO :suicide:" Paramedic missions were fun too, especially as CJ began to starve to death around level 9 (fortunately so slowly that I had at least 75-80% health left at the end) and my ambulance got rear-ended by a truck as one of the patients on level 12 was entering it. He got stuck under the truck for a couple of seconds but eventually made it somehow. I probably would have ended up hurling my laptop out of the window if that dude had died.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I thought I'd be smart and do the firefighting in Angel Pine. Don't make that mistake. Burning people run from the cars and stop right on the steepest part of a rocky incline where you can't spray them from above or below and the firetruck doesn't have anywhere near the sort of grip required to stop next to them.

Sevalar
Jul 10, 2009

HEY RADICAL LARRY HOW ABOUT A HAIRCUT

****MIC TO THE WILLY***
It's amazing even hearing about stories from a 2004 game, how babysitted we are with games these days. I will never do those ambulance missions ever again unless a HD REMAKE is made with some form of auto save. Or if they re introduce them in 5, a level saving option :colbert:

UnknownMercenary
Nov 1, 2011

I LIKE IT
WAY WAY TOO LOUD


Vice City Stories had a thing where it saved completion every 5 levels, but bumped up the reward requirement to 15. Beats getting to level 11 or 12 and then failing because of bullshit.

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

I tried to install the latest version of the Xbox textures mod for my Steam version of GTA3, but for some reason I can't get the thing to work even though I followed the instructions (it's missing a DLL file that should have been included in the automatic installer) :saddowns: Now the game looks like this:



Oh well, let's see if I can fix this without reinstalling the game.

edit: All right, it seems the installer put the important DLLs in the completely wrong folder. Now the mod works as it should.

DMorbid fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Jul 29, 2012

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

Dr. Ohnoman posted:

I tried to install the latest version of the Xbox textures mod for my Steam version of GTA3, but for some reason I can't get the thing to work even though I followed the instructions (it's missing a DLL file that should have been included in the automatic installer) :saddowns: Now the game looks like this:



Oh well, let's see if I can fix this without reinstalling the game.

I literally just did this and had that problem yesterday.

The problem is that the mod installer looks for /GTA3/ and the steam directory is /grand theft auto 3/, so it creates /GTA3/ within that folder. You need to go into that folder and copy all of the files to the correct location.

DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

Yeah, I just noticed that like a minute after I posted. Thanks for the quick reply anyways.

There's also this update for the 1.0 version of the mod, let's see if I can install it without loving up horribly. Apparently it isn't fully compatible with the Steam version (as in some of the improvements don't work), but it should work fine for the most part.

edit: yeah, the update seems to work okay, even though it moves the two DLLs back into the /GTA3/ folder and you need to put them back in the main directory.

DMorbid fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Jul 30, 2012

fingerling
Mar 7, 2010
I finished BoGT the other day, ahead of vanilaa IV, and thought it was a great story, the other characters are hilarious and rather in-depth.
I was hoping that Lost and Damned would be the same way, thus far though, I just hate it. I've probably done four missions, and just disliked every person in it, and the way you have to do everything (convoy on a motorbike :sigh: ). I don't think I'll be playing much more of L&D.

K8.0
Feb 26, 2004

Her Majesty's 56th Regiment of Foot
TLAD gets better as it goes. It's not as good as Gay Tony, but it's worth playing. It's also not all that long, and like Gay Tony it ties into the vanilla storyline.

Physical
Sep 26, 2007

by T. Finninho
I liked TLAD because I always had a bike to ride on. No more dealing with traffic, I just have to ride on the center line to get through congested traffic.

Dave Mustard
Jan 23, 2007
Let me introduce myself, I'm a social disease.
What? I thought TLAD was way better than TBOGT myself. Even if for the sawn off shotgun alone. I don't know, I think Johnny looks way more badass than any of the other protagonists in the IV series, too. Plus, I just like riding bikes...

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



If you're at all into even the idea of biker culture, TLatD is the best thing out of GTA IV. It's like playing an episode of Sons Of Anarchy.

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN
I liked the clubs missions and characters in TBOGT better. I actually like Luis as a protagonist more than any other GTA character

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Luis and what's his face from TLaD were very good characters. Not as good as Vercetti, but right after Claude. Carl was stupid and annoying and Nico was a whiny crybaby.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 25 days!

TheJoker138 posted:

If you're at all into even the idea of biker culture, TLatD is the best thing out of GTA IV. It's like playing an episode of Sons Of Anarchy.

Only entertaining and with 100% less Browalk.

Guydoingthis
May 24, 2010
What appealed to you guys about Luis? It's been awhile since I played, but I remember feeling like he had no personality or charisma at all.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Yeah, he was just like Claude. He was whoever you wanted him to be. Claude and Luis work because they are a blank slate and become whatever you want. Tommy works because he is a psychopath and you usually play GTA as a psychopath. CJ doesn't work because he's a little bitch and won't realize that all of his success is being jeopardized by trying to rep the hood. Nico doesn't work because he's a little bitch and keeps crying about "I was monster in home country, I am monster here." He has several opportunities to be something besides a gangster and leave his past behind but he ignores them and keeps crying about the situations he puts himself in.

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Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Capn Beeb posted:

Only entertaining and with 100% less Browalk.

I don't know what Browalk is, but Sons Of Anarchy is one of the best shows on TV right now, along with Breaking Bad, Mad Men, and Game Of Thrones. Sorry about your bad taste :(

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