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During the recent concert, a total of 230 staff members moved together. The difference in ‘determination’ that the T-ara members have talked about did not mean whether or not the members could stand on stage.

If someone becomes lazy, or self-centered, and thinks only of oneself, that performance has no reprieve but to suffer flaws, and that kind of stage shines only on the outside. On the inside exists only a shallow longing to ‘show’ something. That is what ‘determination’ means – determination for the stars and the staff members alike.

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Ilgan Sports: The press release is a bit vague. It seems to have actually inflated the controversy.

Kim Kwang Soo: I can’t reveal everything. It’s the least amount of courtesy for the departing member. Please think carefully about who will be hurt if the truth is revealed.

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Ilgan Sports: If you go into a little more detail, would that not quell the controversy?

Kim Kwang Soo: There were so many issues, but I really do not want to shed light on any of them, so I am keeping quiet. There were many examples of yelling at the members and breaking down the teamwork. How would the T-ara members feel, who had trained for over three years? I hope this issue is not inflated any further, (Hwayoung) I hope you stay quiet.

Jamesman posted:

Jamesman posted:

I want to at least keep liking Hyomin, but right now I have no idea what the hell is going on and I have a feeling I'm going to end up hating her before this is all over.

Hwayoung just tweeted "...진실없는 사실들" which, if I'm translating right, means "That's some bullshit right there."

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According to CCM, after their Budokan concert and return to Korea on July 27th, T-ara was preparing to go on stage for a live broadcast of KBS‘s ‘Music Bank‘. With only two groups before them left to go, Hwayoung suddenly decided that she did not want to perform on stage that day.

CCM had decided that due to her leg injury, Hwayoung would sit on a chair on stage for her rap segment, and so the girls had successfully completed their camera rehearsal before the broadcast. However, Hwayoung suddenly changed her mind and refused to go on stage with 2 groups left to go.

The agency stated that in order to prevent an accident on live TV, members Eunjung and Hyomin were pressed to learn Hwayoung’s rap segment in the short amount of time they had before their turn. With the new pressure, Hyomin was clearly nervous and ended up making a mistake during the rap segment.

On the way home, Hwayoung, in front of fans and reporters, threw down her crutches and sat on the floor, threatening to yell at the managers in public. It has also been revealed that Hwayoung has shown both fans and reporters a similar side to her, with unacceptable actions and behavior on the set of ‘Music Bank’.

CCM CEO Kim Kwang Soo stated, “We will not be revealing any more of Hwayoung’s similar behaviors outside of the ‘Music Bank’ incident because we do want to protect her. I am also sorrowed by the words left on Hwayoung’s Twitter.”

Archer2338 posted:

Yeah. Translated literally, it's "People without truth..." ie: you guys are a bunch of bullshitters.

Poor Hwayoung. I do sort of see where the conflict is coming from, though. Korea has this culture of emphasizing unity as a whole. IE: You should never ever fail the group. With professionals, that leads to some crazy rear end self-sacrifice that wouldn't be understandable for Westerners. I'm guessing because Eunjung, Jiyeon, and other T-ara members decided to go on despite their injuries, Hwayoung, who I am guessing opted out (totally reasonable, of course), became the "bad" team member.

And Hwayoung is the member that came in much later, right? Maybe this issue wasn't just the concert-injury issue becoming inflated? Possible jealously of the older members since she came in after Tara gained more fame?

qbert posted:

Holy poo poo, CCM.

http://www.allkpop.com/2012/07/ccm-reveals-the-dark-side-of-hwayoung-mudslinging-ensues


Translation, "Look at what a horrible person she is! Isn't she HORRIBLE??!? Oh, but we won't reveal anymore, to protect her image. "

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Following the T-ara controversy with member Hwayoung being kicked out of the group, Hwayoung tweeted and implied that the situation presented to the public was, “facts without truth“. This resulted in a mudslinging contest, where CCM retaliated by revealing the dark side of Hwayoung. However, many believe that Hwayoung is falsely being put in a bad light and have stepped up to the plate.

An SBS PD, after seeing the controversy unfold, defended Hwayoung by tweeting that he would no longer cast T-ara.

It seems as though the tweet was deleted shortly afterwards, however it sparked yet another round of controversy with fans now leaning towards Hwayoung being the victim of bullying and unfair treatment.

Due to this controversy, it’s been reported that T-ara is also facing issues with their upcoming concert, as all but 600 tickets to their concert were returned.

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Japanese T-ara staff tweet: I was a translator/assistant during T-ara's magazine shoot. Back then (around February), Hwayoung definitely did not talk to anyone. She was always calm. She didn't talk to the makeup artists or the other members. She only focused on her work. She always smiled at the staff. She left a good impression.

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“I am a member of Hot Chicks, an exclusive dance team for T-ara, and am also working with Davichi, KARA, Brown Eyed Girls, Rainbow Pixie, and more.
It was around the time the Japanese concert took place. We were getting big with our “Lovey Dovey” shuffle dance after Hwayoung was admitted, and getting ready to perform “Roly Poly” for our year-end performance.

During one of the rehearsals, it was a situation where Kwang Soo had jam-packed our schedules, so both the dancers and the members of T-ara who had just completed their day’s work were extremely sensitive and on edge.

Still, everyone was mustering up their last bit of strength and practicing, when Hwayoung messed up a little bit of the choreography.

Seeing this, Jiyeon and Soyeon then sarcastically scoffed at her, saying, ‘Since you already decided to join, you should maybe work a little harder.’

Hwayoung then became a little depressed, but the dance leader mediated the situation and the rehearsal resumed.

But Hwayoung maintained an uncomfortable expression on her face, and Jiyeon who saw this slapped Hwayoung across the cheek and told her that because she had come in late to the already-established group T-ara, she needed to act sensibly and to rehearse without that expression on her face.

The atmosphere became extremely tense, and Hyomin took Jiyeon outside, telling her that she should just be the bigger person.

Even after Hwayoung’s ‘exposure’ incident, everyone was indifferent towards her, rather than comforting.

After the incident, T-ara went on hiatus to prepare for “Day By Day” and because of events with Davichi and Brown Eyed Girls, I could only see T-ara on TV.

Seeing them on the small-screen, I thought that the girls’ relationship with Hwayoung had improved, but these girls who are all grown don’t want to sit by her in the car so they blatantly play rock paper scissors right in front of her face.”

Lyer posted:

Was there ever a TV drama about idol drama? Because this poo poo is entertaining as all hell.

Lyer posted:

I can't vouch for the quality (it's on facebook), but for those who don't want to hunt down the video file, it's here. This site also has some other stuff subbed as well, if you want to check it out.

qbert posted:

Anyone who wants to get into IC, Pimple Break are a great set of episodes to start on. It starts off a little slow, but builds to an insane finale full of crazy twists, backstabs, and pretty much the best parts of Korean variety.

Lyer posted:

daaaaaayyyyaaaaam:

http://www.allkpop.com/2012/07/t-aras-former-back-up-dancer-claims-jiyeon-once-slapped-hwayoung


Wow, this is like the gift that keeps on giving. Lots of people coming out in support of Hwayoung. I'm wondering if the normal populace has to deal with bullying on a daily basis and they just have to endure that poo poo and are now lashing out. I'm honestly surprised at the level of hate T-ara is getting. Although I wonder how much of it is attributed to the press release of CCM blaming Hwayoung. I bet if they just stated "we have decided to part ways" and no explanation given, it would have been much, much better.

Archer2338 posted:

Yeah, Korean schools have a -lot- of bullying problems (especially nowadays), so I think majority of the Korean populace can relate personally to Hwayoung.
From what I read, it seems like Hyomin, Eunjung, and Jiyeon are being mentioned (since they're the most popular, I guess). Are the other members in this bullying thing as well? What about that newest member (aram? or whatever)?

Lyer posted:

daaaaaayyyyaaaaam:

http://www.allkpop.com/2012/07/t-aras-former-back-up-dancer-claims-jiyeon-once-slapped-hwayoung


Wow, this is like the gift that keeps on giving. Lots of people coming out in support of Hwayoung. I'm wondering if the normal populace has to deal with bullying on a daily basis and they just have to endure that poo poo and are now lashing out. I'm honestly surprised at the level of hate T-ara is getting. Although I wonder how much of it is attributed to the press release of CCM blaming Hwayoung. I bet if they just stated "we have decided to part ways" and no explanation given, it would have been much, much better.

Archer2338 posted:

Fortunately(?) this and the other rumor about Jiyeon striking a trainee both turned out to be false; idiot netizens making up stories, that's what it is. The leader of the supposed dance team made a public statement saying that the practice area was opened to the public so slapping was out of the question.