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raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Trat is rad. You can go around there and eat seafood, there's a row of homes that European exiles have taken over but made the bottom floor into halfassed stores so it's like waking around in Eurohomes, there's a rinky dink Chinese temple, and best of all if you wanted to disappear from society forever you could easily do that in Trat and no one would care. Oh also you can buy that one Lady's yellow medicinal oil magic potion all around town.

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ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Morricone posted:

Thank heaven for 7-11.
Jews did 7-11 :tinfoil:

On a separate note, Southeast Asia is currently having loony tunes weather, so while the broad strokes of "it's rainy season" or "it's dry season" apply, the weather patterns of the last two years really have been bizarre to the point where even Thai people (who normally set their watches by the weather) are like YEAH OKAY I GIVE UP. Rainy season started like 3 months early this year, stopped just before it normally starts and then started again a month later. We've had torrential downpours, flooding, droughts and all kinds of crazy poo poo throughout the region.

imnotinsane
Jul 19, 2006
I will buy an umbrella and bring a raincoat. Rain is sure better than ice and snow, I really hate ice because I slip in it and look like a fool.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
http://news.yahoo.com/cambodians-ask-magic-log-lottery-numbers-153854573.html

I love it when the Cambodians find some magical cow that births kittens or snake that used to be a little boy or something - this go round doesn't disappoint:

quote:

Cambodians ask 'magic log' for lottery numbers

A large log dug up in Cambodia has drawn thousands of visitors who believe it possesses healing powers and can predict winning lottery numbers, a local official said Thursday.

Some 4,000 to 5,000 people have already been to see the 13-metre-long log (42 feet) that was discovered earlier this month when a family excavated a pond in western Pursat province, Prey Yeang village chief Hun Nov told AFP by phone.

"They believe the log has magical powers," he said, adding that visitors were coming loaded with offerings such as pig heads and boiled whole chickens after some locals who touched the wood won money in the lottery.

"At least one hundred people a day visit the log to ask for lottery numbers and to cure their illnesses," he said. "They believe in superstition."

Cambodians are highly superstitious, particularly in the countryside where people continue to merge animist practices with Buddhism.

Hun Nov said some believers rubbed talcum powder onto the wood, hoping to see lucky lottery numbers, and others drank water from the pond and smeared nearby mud onto their bodies in a bid to cure their ailments.

While the village chief himself is not convinced of the log's powers, "We, the authorities, have no right to stop them," he said.
Be sure to visit the magic log on your trip, Pursat isn't far from Phnom Penh (it's between Poipet and Phnom Penh, basically).

imnotinsane posted:

I will buy an umbrella and bring a raincoat. Rain is sure better than ice and snow, I really hate ice because I slip in it and look like a fool.
Bring some non-flip flop shoes to wear (like sanuks or crocs something) that won't flip grimy, disgusting water up the backs of your legs as you walk. Also, avoid loose tiles on the sidewalk unless you want a geyser of watery snot and piss to shoot up your leg - I loving hate it when that happens.

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jul 26, 2012

Ringo R
Dec 25, 2005

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If you're of average height you'll find that most Thai ladies with their umbrellas open is at perfect eye-gouging level. Also, I was on the bus today and it was raining. At the last stop all the people waiting for the bus quickly formed a tight half circle around the door with no gap for passengers getting off the bus (It rains! Want to get on bus!). I was the first to get off and just dived into them, pushing them aside. Maybe insulted some of them but hey, people need to get off the bus. I want to slap all the people who stand right in front of opening Skytrain doors. And those who stop before getting on an escalator.


/ThaiVisa Poster

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Haha, that is a TV response, but I actually do just walk right into Thai people who block doorways. You have to go along to get along here and all that, but for gently caress's sake, what am I supposed to do when Nan and Lek are too loving stupid to leave even the slightest gap for my comparatively gigantic American rear end to exit the bus or train? Just stand on the train? I've never seen a culture where such polite people so pervasively do not get the concept that you have to let stuff out of the contained area of the train car before you can put more stuff in. It's not exactl rocket science. Unless it's an old lady or old man I just walk through them like I didn't even see them.

Also, schoolkids are the absolute worst here. What the gently caress is that about? Heh. They're not mean-rude, they're just completely oblivious to anyone around them.

Ringo R
Dec 25, 2005

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They're busy updating their Facebook status! I like to peek at what people do on their phones on buses/trains/whatever and it's been nothing but:
Unlock phone entering long password
Slowly scroll through apps
Open Facebook app
Slowly scroll through posts
Lock phone, stare at bus window for 0.5 seconds, repeat step 1.


/ThaiVisa Poster
Level up! Level 2 (+2 Creepy Expat, +1 Angry Me Missus, 50% more likely to jump from Pattaya condo)

Modus Operandi
Oct 5, 2010
The wacky weather is a real problem for me now because i'm staying at a friend's condo which happens to be located in a soi that magically becomes a stream even in a mediocre rainstorm. So I can become trapped at various times unless I want to sink my feet into possibly poo water to get somewhere. The special happy time bonus is that taxis don't like to go here too even though it's located by embassies. ^_^ Plus there's a few hi-so townhouse sois along the way and during school hours they clog that poo poo right up with their suvs and big mercedez.

Modus Operandi fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Jul 26, 2012

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Ringo R posted:

They're busy updating their Facebook status!
This or BBChat, yeah. Bangkok is the most Facebook-connected city in the world and, from what I can tell by looking over their shoulders, 90% of that is just Thai pictures of food they're eating, Thai girls making puffy faces in close up shots and pets dressed up humiliatingly.

eviljelly
Aug 29, 2004

ReindeerF posted:

pets dressed up humiliatingly.

god bless thailand

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
I quite enjoy seeing Thais move to New York and slowly begin to de-retard their online presence. First they get rid of the six or seven emoticons before and after their cutesy nickname, then they such to their real name, then they start posting pictures of places they went to that are pictures of the place instead of a picture of them pointing at said place, but the food pictures never stop and if there's a dog in a pumpkin outfit its going to get instagrammed.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Haha, I'd never thought of that, but it's true. I watched a Thai chick I used to work with do that after moving overseas to Seattle. Within a year it almost looked like an adult's Facebook page.

Jonnymonster
Mar 26, 2007
Snatch Goblin

ReindeerF posted:

Thai girls making puffy faces in close up shots

What is the go with this? I have seen full facebook profiles with only puffy face close up pictures. Surely after a while one would realise they ain't getting any more mileage out of it?

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Jonnymonster posted:

What is the go with this? I have seen full facebook profiles with only puffy face close up pictures. Surely after a while one would realise they ain't getting any more mileage out of it?
I don't have a non-pejorative thing to say about it, except that it's a mix of infantilization and kawaii (narak, here) culture. Try to imagine your goal in life is to do nothing that could cause so much as a second's controversy while also trying to appeal to others, what would you do on Facebook? Post pictures of food, yourself looking (what you think is) cute and puppies. That's the broadbrush stereotype of the thin veneer of uber-politeness that rests atop Thai culture. It changes as people get older and among the more educated crowd, so you start to see political stuff and international news events, but particularly among university and twenty-something chicks it's absolutely ridiculous. Cambodia's pretty much the same from what I've seen. Just thousands and thousands of fish-face internet disease poses. It's probably not hugely different among Western kids in terms of the utter banality, but one thing about Asians is that they are complete and total hams for a camera. That is a legit cultural difference. Almost any Westerner would think it's the height of self-absorption to sit around posting pictures of yourself posing on facebook, but that's totally non-weird over here.

My favorite exception is when some girl is having a breakup with her boyfriend or something and it goes all passive aggressive.

EDIT: Thai women carry pillows like this around the office into their thirties - true story.

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jul 27, 2012

Jonnymonster
Mar 26, 2007
Snatch Goblin

ReindeerF posted:


My favorite exception is when some girl is having a breakup with her boyfriend or something and it goes all passive aggressive.


A few weeks ago there was a post from a fairly well educated Thai friend of mine on Facebook, who it seems has broken up with her European fly in boyfriend. Normally when she gets upset its all lyrics and song posts from random US R&B artists, but this time she went on a rant about some girl basically being mutton dressed up as lamb, and how she can put all the makeup in the world on but she is still a whore! I think this is the first time i've actually seen a Thai girl go off in a public domain.

ReindeerF posted:

EDIT: Thai women carry pillows like this around the office into their thirties - true story.


A friend of mine has this as her Facebook profile pic.... I think hers might even be a fake, because this one looks of far better quality and hers looks more of what you would expect at a market. What it is meant to be?

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Jonnymonster posted:

A few weeks ago there was a post from a fairly well educated Thai friend of mine on Facebook, who it seems has broken up with her European fly in boyfriend. Normally when she gets upset its all lyrics and song posts from random US R&B artists, but this time she went on a rant about some girl basically being mutton dressed up as lamb, and how she can put all the makeup in the world on but she is still a whore! I think this is the first time i've actually seen a Thai girl go off in a public domain.
:lol: I saw this once when half the office quit and one girl got really pissed, but even then it was all third person. "I guess SOMEONE doesn't...[etc]"

Jonnymonster posted:

A friend of mine has this as her Facebook profile pic.... I think hers might even be a fake, because this one looks of far better quality and hers looks more of what you would expect at a market. What it is meant to be?
Doraemon! What Doraemon is, though, aside from some cartoon character, I have no idea.

Senso
Nov 4, 2005

Always working

ReindeerF posted:

Cambodia's pretty much the same from what I've seen. Just thousands and thousands of fish-face internet disease poses.

FYI, same thing in Vietnam. Close-ups of face or doing the "peace sign", etc. All the time.

ReindeerF posted:

EDIT: Thai women carry pillows like this around the office into their thirties - true story.

In my office, men carry those. The guy sitting next to me has a pink pig pillow he hugs while working.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Senso posted:

In my office, men carry those. The guy sitting next to me has a pink pig pillow he hugs while working.
Woah, have not seen that! I can sort of see the part where they keep it in the chair for comfort reasons, but the part that freaks me out is adults walking around in business clothes clutching a cartoon pillow at the loving office. Simply mind-blowing.

I'm guessing if Laos had offices it'd be like this, but everyone there is asleep under their stilt-house.

Finch!
Sep 11, 2001

Spatial Awareness?

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Senso posted:

In my office, men carry those. The guy sitting next to me has a pink pig pillow he hugs while working.

You can't say that without taking a photograph... and sharing it with us.

Jonnymonster
Mar 26, 2007
Snatch Goblin

Finch! posted:

You can't say that without taking a photograph... and sharing it with us.

Seconding this!
Pics or it didn't happen ;)

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

ReindeerF posted:

:lol: I saw this once when half the office quit and one girl got really pissed, but even then it was all third person. "I guess SOMEONE doesn't...[etc]"
Doraemon! What Doraemon is, though, aside from some cartoon character, I have no idea.

Doreamon is robot. He help the people. He friend with the boy. He is on cartoon show name Doreamon. I wish he real. Doreamon Japan people robot.

^^ My best recollection of an essay I got in response to an assignment I gave to college age students when I taught in Thailand.

My further Doreamon research via NYC Thais tells me that: 1) He has an infinite front pocket from which any useful item can be instantly extracted, 2) if you get into his desk there is a time machine cum teleporter in there, 3) he is a cat robot who is scared of rats because a rat chewed off his ears, 4) he had a beanie with a propellor that he freely distributes allowing for manned flight, 5) he is especially popular in Thailand because his cartoon has been on there forever, 6) most Thai people can basically sing the theme song even though it's in Japanese.

Oh and he has a yellow girlfriend called Doremi.

Many plot lines involve Doreamon helping the lead human character with his bully problems or his love interest.

raton fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Jul 27, 2012

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Leave it to the Japanese to build a robot cartoon monster that teleports cum.

Modus Operandi
Oct 5, 2010
I bet if you wanted to scar Thai minds forever just find some Doraemon porn somewhere and post it up.

Pinball
Sep 15, 2006




I've made it to Bangkok, and today (my fifth day) I climbed Wat Arun and saw some monks with iPhones. Is this a thing? I thought monks had to give up all possessions. Also nobody will help me practice my lovely Thai because they all speak a little English anyway. :(

Pinball fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Jul 29, 2012

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Pinball posted:

I've made it to Bangkok, and today (my fifth day) I climbed Wat Arun and saw some monks with iPhones. Is this a thing? I thought monks had to give up all possessions.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, visit Pantip while you're in Bangkok. Your head will explode.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
So for Vietnam, should I bring boots or should I wear dress shoes? I'll be in Saigon for 5 days. On the one hand I probably won't leave the city, but on the other it's the rainy season and I hear the roads suck.

eviljelly
Aug 29, 2004

Toussaint Louverture posted:

So for Vietnam, should I bring boots or should I wear dress shoes? I'll be in Saigon for 5 days.

Is this a joke?

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Get those waiter shoes I tell people to get in the Travel Gear thread.

No boots. No actual dress shoes.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
Yeah, I had just woken up. Meant gym shoes.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
I got the skinny on the fish face photos. It's called "ab baew" in Thai, which is a mashup of "ab" from abnormal (the English word) and "baew" which is something like appearing to be cute. Anyway, if you search ab baew in Thai you get like 1.5 trillion results all of whom are Thai chicks, but for some reason the first result is a hairy farang dude.

There is also an ab baew association on Facebook and ab baew forums and guides on how to make ab baew faces. No poo poo.

Also, I saw one of my Thai pet peeves in action today and it reminded me to post about it. I'm not a big animal lover, but I don't like to see otherwise non-threatening or non-annoying animals having problems. On that note, average Thai people (speaking generally) love to give snacks to dogs that follow them around. If you notice, anytime you're carrying a plastic bag a dog will start following you and trying to sniff it. Most of these snacks come on a stick - sausage balls, grilled pork, whatever. I give dogs here this kind of stuff, but like anyone with half a second's thought between impulse and action I remove the meat from the stick. Not our Thai friends, heh. I have watched countless dogs sitting there trying to chew through a stick and often ending up swallowing it, part or whole, to get the meat. Mind-boggling. I'm surprised that average Thai people don't just leave cans of pet food outside and expect the dog to chew through it to eat it.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
At least they don't go out of their way to harm them like in Georgia. Kicking dogs is practically a sport in the caucuses.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Toussaint Louverture posted:

At least they don't go out of their way to harm them like in Georgia. Kicking dogs is practically a sport in the caucuses.
The Korean thread reports a lot of dog abuse there. Here, we have the opposite problem. The majority of the dogs in this country, at least as far as I can tell from extensive travel and running around random neighborhoods and rural areas, should be exterminated and the rest neutered and spayed. Of course, this is Thailand, so that won't happen. They are a legitimate public nuisance and problem here, though, beyond anything I've ever seen anywhere else in my life. There's a short list of daily life annoyances that go beyond the piddly stuff we bitch about when we're just commiserating. Like the BTS behavior and sidewalk stuff is annoying, but not a real problem. The dogs are a real problem, like the lack of clean water distribution is a real problem (causing enormous waste to ship containerized water around) and like the plastic bags that litter the country are a real problem and the 13 year-olds driving motorbikes are a real problem and so on.

The solution is just to let the immigrants openly hunt them instead of prosecuting them for it, heh. I love it when some story hits the news about a Burmese laborer or a Laos dog rustler stealing someone's dog and eating it. Every Thai dog owner goes ape poo poo.

Pinball
Sep 15, 2006




ReindeerF posted:

Every Thai dog owner goes ape poo poo.

There are Thai dog owners? I haven't seen a single one so far, just a lot of street dogs that make me sad to look at. I figured Thailand just didn't have a pet-owning culture.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Pinball posted:

There are Thai dog owners? I haven't seen a single one so far, just a lot of street dogs that make me sad to look at. I figured Thailand just didn't have a pet-owning culture.

Thai people love their dogs but the idea of ownership is a bit different. They generally own their dogs like a farmer here owns his barn cat.

ReindeerF posted:

The Korean thread reports a lot of dog abuse there. Here, we have the opposite problem. The majority of the dogs in this country, at least as far as I can tell from extensive travel and running around random neighborhoods and rural areas, should be exterminated and the rest neutered and spayed. Of course, this is Thailand, so that won't happen. They are a legitimate public nuisance and problem here, though, beyond anything I've ever seen anywhere else in my life. There's a short list of daily life annoyances that go beyond the piddly stuff we bitch about when we're just commiserating. Like the BTS behavior and sidewalk stuff is annoying, but not a real problem. The dogs are a real problem, like the lack of clean water distribution is a real problem (causing enormous waste to ship containerized water around) and like the plastic bags that litter the country are a real problem and the 13 year-olds driving motorbikes are a real problem and so on.

The solution is just to let the immigrants openly hunt them instead of prosecuting them for it, heh. I love it when some story hits the news about a Burmese laborer or a Laos dog rustler stealing someone's dog and eating it. Every Thai dog owner goes ape poo poo.

Thai chicken shacks usually keep the leftover chicken carcass at hand after all the edible bits have been removed, then bread it (sometimes) and deep fry it. As far as I know this doesn't have a name in Thai or it's called something stupid that I refuse to accept as a name (like "chicken body" or whatever). They make popular treats for the family dog, although people eat them too. Upon voicing my concerns about feeding a dog a bag of what amounts to fried and coarsely chopped chicken bones (Dad was perpetually worried that our golden retriever would "choke on a bone") I was told by a Thai person that it was quite okay, that Thai dogs are tough and can eat anything, and that they like it a lot so therefore it's fine.

This person also had a dog that would shimmy up the space between the fence and a tree exactly like that one video on the internet so it could get out and contact mange and probably screw a lot of Thai bitches.

Dog video in question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXkTUyDxE04

Geng makkkkkkk

Also dog theft is a problem in Thailand. If your dog is cute people will steal it and either keep it or take it to JJ and sell it. Also nobody will be mad at them. The dog is cute, how could they be expected to resist the urge to steal something that is cute?

raton fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jul 29, 2012

Jonnymonster
Mar 26, 2007
Snatch Goblin

ReindeerF posted:

I love it when some story hits the news about a Burmese laborer or a Laos dog rustler stealing someone's dog and eating it. Every Thai dog owner goes ape poo poo.

A Russian woman in Siam Reap told me a story about a Cambodian who used poison to kill a neighborhood dog, so it could be fed to the family. Apparently dog liver is some kind of delicacy? They knew no better and decided to eat the liver which contained the toxins from the poison and it wiped out the group of them.
Not sure if this was some kind of Urban myth though.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Pinball posted:

There are Thai dog owners? I haven't seen a single one so far, just a lot of street dogs that make me sad to look at. I figured Thailand just didn't have a pet-owning culture.
There's a middle class in Thailand and they own dogs like we own dogs, especially when you get to the urban areas. There's also an upper class who are incredibly annoying Paris Hilton dog-owning types and they're the ones who go the most apeshit. The vast majority of dogs either live on the street or at the wat and are fed by people who come out and dump leftover rice and poo poo, but then do nothing for the dog's welfare. The consequence is pretty much what you've seen, rampant soi dog nonsense.

Fortunately, dogs here (99% of the time) aren't very big and are easy to back down if you get aggressive. I've had to jog through packs of 10-20 before and just run at them like herding cows to keep them at bay. Most of the time, just pointing at them keeps them from coming too close. Watch out, though, they're cowardly backbiters who love to sit still 'til you pass and then sneak up on your ankle.

Sheep-Goats posted:

I was told by a Thai person that it was quite okay, that Thai dogs are tough and can eat anything, and that they like it a lot so therefore it's fine.
I've had that discussion too. The concept of choking on a chicken bone (it's because they're small and break easy, for anyone reading) is completely foreign here, but I'm not surprised you got the "Thai _______ has special characteristics and therefore _________" argument. I've heard that one about electricity too. Thai physics not same your country na ka. It's not too bad, though, the Korean thread sounds like the answer to every question is "Korean culture is special, you do not understand about it" heh. Here it's mostly smiling and mai bpen rai. Want to electrocute yourself and choke your dog, be my guest Somchai!

Finch!
Sep 11, 2001

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Great success. Earlier today I picked up my passport with a big fat "NON-IMMIGRANT VISA CLASSIFICATION 'ED'" stamp. :woop:

Any Bangkok goons keen for a beer this time next week?

Edit: Also, eviljelly, what's the best company for 3G on Koh Tao these days? I'm going to put my Australian SIM in my Thai phone and put a Thai SIM in my iPhone...

Finch! fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Jul 30, 2012

Pinball
Sep 15, 2006




Hey, Sheep-Goats! I'm living in Lub d Silom for the next two weeks, and today I went to Tukta's food stall across from Wat Kaek. Holy balls that stuff was good. Thanks for the tip!

Ringo R
Dec 25, 2005

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Finch! posted:

Great success. Earlier today I picked up my passport with a big fat "NON-IMMIGRANT VISA CLASSIFICATION 'ED'" stamp. :woop:
Earlier today I went to Ministry of Foreign Affairs to once again try to get my passport "verified" because all foreigners come to Thailand with fake passports and cause trouble. I failed last time because I didn't have a stamp on the copy of my passport from my embassy. Today I failed because the stamp from the embassy wasn't translated. Luckily that could be fixed there but oh man....

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raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Pinball posted:

Hey, Sheep-Goats! I'm living in Lub d Silom for the next two weeks, and today I went to Tukta's food stall across from Wat Kaek. Holy balls that stuff was good. Thanks for the tip!

Did you get that cabbage thing? I love that cabbage thing.

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