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Very Strange Things posted:The natural mellowing agents of a Fancy Ketchup will also tame that devil capsaicin's fiery tongue. I think you mean ranch dressing. Edit: Horrific ranch snype. 
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No Wave posted:What a chump I am for having missed out on all this awesome easily-available Greek food my whole life! Befriending a local as opposed to crossing an ocean to get it? Indeed.
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I know everyone's tired of allergy chat, but last night, I inadvertently outed a fake allergic. I'd made bagna cauda for an appetizer, and after we'd eaten that and people asked what was in it, my sister reacted with horror at the anchovies, started panicking and talked about calling an ambulance. It seems her friend, who ate with us, had been claiming for 20 years that she was extremely allergic to fish of any kind (I didn't know this, honest). Turns out she wasn't, she just didn't care much for fish. A rather awkward silence folllowed.
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Aug 7, 2012 16:08
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Aramoro posted:I'm assuming you're seasoning with only the finest artisan salt money can buy and the rarest peppercorns as well, anything else would do a great disservice to the meal. Naturally! I use sel de larmes orphelin which is so expensive and special that I doubt your poor pleb tongue could even handle the subtleties and awesome changes it makes to meals. In fact, I have a special Sel de Schroedinger which I use for only the most sublime of Hamburger Helper recipes. Did it add a flavor or didn't it? There's no way to know until you taste. For everyone else offering suggestions on how to tame that salsa chicken beast...  I love you guys. hahahah
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Aug 7, 2012 17:07
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Scientastic posted:I think you mean ranch dressing. The worst thing about the ranch fountain is imagining what kind of smell it must generate in the room after a while.  Dane posted:A rather awkward silence folllowed. This is better, though not by far, than a fundy extremist governor getting randomly surprised by a press photographer delegation in a meth-reeking truck stop bathroom with sixteen inches of uncut, throbbing, greasy self-loathing and hypocrisy jammed up his uptight gubernatorial boy-blossom. On all fours in a latex suit. But like I said, not by far.
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Aug 7, 2012 17:28
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Dane posted:I know everyone's tired of allergy chat, but last night, I inadvertently outed a fake allergic. I'd made bagna cauda for an appetizer, and after we'd eaten that and people asked what was in it, my sister reacted with horror at the anchovies, started panicking and talked about calling an ambulance. It seems her friend, who ate with us, had been claiming for 20 years that she was extremely allergic to fish of any kind (I didn't know this, honest). Turns out she wasn't, she just didn't care much for fish. Ug, I hate people like that, mostly because I'm actually allergic to fluke and flounder, and I've had multiple trips to the emergency room because of it. Breaking out in hives and having your airway swell up mightily is not loving fun, and gently caress people who claim fake allergies just because they don't like something. JUST loving SAY YOU DON'T LIKE FISH. I would have spent that awkward silence slapping the poo poo out of that person. (Okay, I wouldn't have, but I'd be pissed. Mostly that I knew such an infantile person.)
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Aug 7, 2012 18:33
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Are you also allergic to flan, flapjack and flax? One of my friends is allergic to aubergine and avocado. So much so that avocado could kill him.
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Aug 7, 2012 18:43
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Scientastic posted:Are you also allergic to flan, flapjack and flax? Heh, if I were allergic to flan and flapjacks, I'd be dead by now. (Flax is boring) One thing I've always been curious about was sole; I've always wanted to know if it was just those two fish or all flat fish for some odd reason, but I never did have the courage to try it out.
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Aug 7, 2012 20:09
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pnumoman posted:Ug, I hate people like that, mostly because I'm actually allergic to fluke and flounder, and I've had multiple trips to the emergency room because of it. Breaking out in hives and having your airway swell up mightily is not loving fun, and gently caress people who claim fake allergies just because they don't like something. Here's the problem with coming out and saying "(I'm sorry) I don't like __________": What do you mean you don't like it? Are you retarded? What's wrong with you? I know what the problem is. You've never tried it my way. Here. Just do it. Just loving try it. Just a taste. C'mon rear end in a top hat. Just eat a bite you loving pussy. And on and on for 10 minutes until you either take a bite of repulsive food (that is exactly the same as you stated before and doesn't change your opinion of said food), or you stand your ground, but the cook gets all butthurt because you wouldn't even try it and becomes super passive aggressive. I'm not 5. I'm allowed to not like things. I really don't need a guilt trip over food I didn't ask for. So rather than deal with all that bullshit, I'll sometimes just fake an allergy to make people shut up.
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CzarChasm posted:I'm not 5. You sure? Because you have to lie to avoid an easily surmountable social situation.
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Aug 7, 2012 22:04
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Pretending you have an allergy is a pretty hosed up thing to do, because it means that it increases the number of people, albeit stupid people, who think that all allergies are fake. It saddens me to say that I have met people who genuinely don't believe in allergies, because they think that everyone who says they have an allergy is just making excuses for not liking shellfish, peanuts, latex or whatever. Just grow a pair and tell people that you don't want something because you don't like it, don't pretend to be allergic to things.
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Aug 7, 2012 22:08
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Hey how about saying "oh no I have tried a very similar canned brussels sprout and tater tots bake and I am really not a fan but thank you! I like them a lot ~otherway~ though!" rather than lying to people that are presumably your friends because you're unable to have a grownup conversation? Alternatively, get less lovely friends. Edit: or are you one of those silly people that ~has a genetic condition~ that makes cilantro taste like soap?
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Aug 7, 2012 22:09
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Scientastic posted:Pretending you have an allergy is a pretty hosed up thing to do, because it means that it increases the number of people, albeit stupid people, who think that all allergies are fake. Hey, my aversion to latex is based on religion! It keeps my penis kosher
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Aug 7, 2012 22:14
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Halalelujah posted:Hey, my aversion to latex is based on religion! It keeps my penis kosher I thought the hole in the sheet did that.
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Aug 7, 2012 22:29
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pnumoman posted:Heh, if I were allergic to flan and flapjacks, I'd be dead by now. (Flax is boring) One thing I've always been curious about was sole; I've always wanted to know if it was just those two fish or all flat fish for some odd reason, but I never did have the courage to try it out. If you react to some fish but not all, then my presumption would be a) that your allergy is to some specific protein present in only some fish, and b) that phylogeny is a good predictor of whether or not a particular protein will be present in the fish meat. Point being that common names don't map well onto phylogeny, and so are probably not a good basis for guessing whether or not you'll react to them.
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Aug 7, 2012 23:07
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Just man up and eat it you pussy. We'll never evolve as a species unless we can learn to beat anaphylaxis. Tough it out.
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Aug 7, 2012 23:26
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SubG posted:Using a common name is a bit of a minefield. Flukes are Paralichthys dentatus. All Paralichthys are flounder, but not all flounder are Paralichthys. Some sole are (family, not genus) Pleuronectidae, and some Pleuronectidae are flounder. Not all sole are Pleuronectidae (most are family Soleidae). For example. Oooo, cool biology info. I just sidestepped the issue by avoiding all flat fish in general, and it's worked out pretty well. Granted, the last two times I've landed in the ER was because of fish broth in restaurants, so it's not exactly foolproof. But since I've (unfortunately) been burned by this goddamn allergy often enough to know exactly how it feels early on, I haven't had a really bad reaction in quite some time. (The worst time was when I was in the ER in Korea during Christmas, lying on a gurney, waiting what seemed like an eternity for a goddamn 'specialist' to come in while I'm wheezing like an 80 year old with emphysema. Nearly passed out it was so bad, and the only bright spot was the 'specialist' screaming at the staff after he saw the shape I was in.) EDIT: ^^^ Why do you think I landed in the ER so many times? loving flounder sashimi looked so goddamn good to me when I was a child, I'd sneak it even after the second trip to the ER. My parents really did not know what to do with my food lust.
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Aug 7, 2012 23:34
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EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:Hey how about saying "oh no I have tried a very similar canned brussels sprout and tater tots bake and I am really not a fan but thank you! I like them a lot ~otherway~ though!" rather than lying to people that are presumably your friends because you're unable to have a grownup conversation? Alternatively, get less lovely friends.
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Aug 7, 2012 23:46
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therattle posted:I don't think that cilantro (you mean CORIANDER) tastes liked soap: it's just that I Wait you don't like cilantro? I am sorry man... Also what the gently caress is wrong wit saying I don't like something? Is our culture so sparkly feel good that we can't man/woman up about poo poo and say, 'yeah I have had a lot of different types of shell fish, and I really don't like it?' Then if pressured just tell them no? It isn't like food should have a sense of peer pressure around it, gently caress if someone doesn't like something, then that is their loss, more for me. But seriously, cilantro? That is sad.
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Aug 7, 2012 23:51
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Colt Cannon posted:Also what the gently caress is wrong wit saying I don't like something? Is our culture so sparkly feel good that we can't man/woman up about poo poo and say, 'yeah I have had a lot of different types of shell fish, and I really don't like it?' Then if pressured just tell them no? It isn't like food should have a sense of peer pressure around it, gently caress if someone doesn't like something, then that is their loss, more for me. I am admittedly a food pusher, and I try to get people to eat new things. Having had some success with getting people to try new things, I do like to foist things upon people. That being said, I would rather they tell me "no" straight up if they don't really like something and don't want to try, vs. lying about a possible life threatening issue. Reminds me of my dad telling me when I was young that he was allergic to okra. Turns out he was fed lovely okra growing up, and just hates the stuff. He has owned up to that though.
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Just showed my wife how to use a vegetable peeler on a cold stick of butter to shave super thin strips of butter to put on hot toast. Works way better than her way, which was to try to microwave the butter so it would be soft enough to spread.
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Aug 8, 2012 00:35
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:Just showed my wife how to use a vegetable peeler on a cold stick of butter to shave super thin strips of butter to put on hot toast. Works way better than her way, which was to try to microwave the butter so it would be soft enough to spread. ...that's brilliant. Alternatively, I feel like a moron for not thinking of that myself.
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:Just showed my wife how to use a vegetable peeler on a cold stick of butter to shave super thin strips of butter to put on hot toast. Works way better than her way, which was to try to microwave the butter so it would be soft enough to spread. Personally I use my cheese slicer for this
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I'm all for the "hey, try it this way" thing, but frankly, it irritates the crap out of me to get someone who's all up in your poo poo about "WELL TRY IT THIS WAY I SWEAR YOU"LL LIKE IT." No. I loving won't. I don't like it. Leave me the gently caress alone about it already. I've not had to resort to the allergy thing, thank goodness, but that's because I'm a stubborn little cuss. If I don't like a thing, I flat out won't eat it. gently caress people who can't take no for an answer. It's where the faking allergies comes from for sure. Scenario: You go to a restaurant. You tell waitperson to ensure that there are no onions on your sandwich. The entire meal takes way longer than it should. You bite in. loving onions. By this point, you're starving, and everyone else has their food. But now, the entire sandwich reeks of onion, and you can't pick it out and still enjoy your lunch. So you passive aggressively leave no tip for the waiter. It doesn't happen once, at one place. It happens multiple times at multiple places, on multiple occasions. It happens when you get takeaway, and are about 14 miles away from said takeaway place, and are now stuck with a meal that you won't be able to choke down, because you loathe onions that much. So you go to the next petrol station, snag a bag of cheetos or something, and move on. From then on, you just tell the waiter that you're allergic and move on. They take it srsly, you get to avoid your horrible onions, and everyone moves on. (PS I actually love onions. One of my favourite treats is raw onion sandwiches. I'm just using a random example.) Scenario 2: You have an unnatural loathing for bananas. In smoothies, all you can taste are bananas. In banana bread, the bananas overwhelm you to the point of blinding rage. Seeing a long banana, split on half, and sat astride two scoops of ice cream makes you want to vomit. And yet, for some inexplicable reason, every person you know, and their mother (ESPECIALLY their mother) tries to get you to eat bananas. Their bananas foster that they're famous for. Their banana bread that won a blue ribbon. Goddamn banana and peanut butter sandwiches. You've said a million and a half times that you dislike bananas, but then your partner starts to call you childish, and why can't you just eat the loving nana pudding for grandma who made it just for you, even though she's 101 years old, and can't get out of bed except for a few short minutes every week. Why won't you eat grandma's pudding? WHAT YOU GOT AGAINST MY NANA? And so, you bust out the allergy card. And people leave you the gently caress alone. (PS, I also love bananas.) I understand the whole "hurr be an adult and just tell people you don't like it", which would be perfectly valid if there weren't 50,000 assholes who feel the need to deride your dislikes every time you voice them. For gently caress's sake, I find myself doing it too, because there are times when someone really hasn't had it done right. But many times, the person is a grown rear end adult, and bloody well capable of making their own decisions on what they're going to eat. If we lived in a world where it was a very live and let live kind of attitude, where adults can make their own choices in their dietary preferences without the peanut gallery chiming in every time about it, I'd say that the fake allergy hate is absolutely valid. But that's not how things work. And the worst part? I loving /hate/ having food dislikes, because I know I'm missing out on some awesome stuff. My husband adores it when I make him aubergines, but I won't eat the stuff if I were starving. Okra can gently caress right off. And sweet in salty food makes me automatically dislike it. It's fine if something is naturally sweet, like corn or sauteed onions. But when people do poo poo like throw apples into a spicy curry, I get pissy, and won't touch it. And gently caress seitan. gently caress it out loud. Won't eat it. Mind you, I know how to make it right, and people thoroughly enjoy it when I do, but the textures of those foods turn me off, and I can't get past it, no matter how many ways I've had it, cooked by however many people.
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Aug 8, 2012 01:22
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If someone is as impolite as to keep pushing poo poo on you when you say no, you should be just as impolite back, and walk out or verbally berate them or something. And if a restaurant doesn't respect your wishes when you say no onions or whatever, just send it back and either get a replacement or just don't pay for it. Yeah, it sucks when that happens, but I wouldn't try and fake an allergy to get people to listen. That just seems really passive-aggressive, dishonest, and cheapens allergies in the eyes of people without them.
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Aug 8, 2012 01:37
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I have a gut issue that blows up like Mt St Helens if I have any more than the tiniest pinch of capsaicin. I say I have an allergy, because telling people you will spend all of the next day bug-eyed and beet-faced on the throne with an rear end in a top hat spraying shitwater like busted fire hydrant isn't the best dinner table conversation. Sometimes, when I know I'm not going anywhere for a few days, I eat the poo poo out of some spicy buffalo wings 
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Aug 8, 2012 02:05
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Man there's poo poo I don't like eating. There's poo poo almost everyone doesn't like eating. I take as small a portion if possible, give it a small taste out of respect to the host who's put the work into preparing it and is giving it to me for free, and then do what I can to hide the remainder that's still on my plate after I've finished. I'm not hung up on politeness like ever but it's really the least that I can do for my host. If it's really coming to blows like that - all the time - you really are doing it wrong. And I never eat more than a taste of food I don't like. As for capsaicin just say you have an extremely sensitive/irritable digestive system and that your next day will be shot/you'll be up all night. People will get it.
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An observer posted:I have a gut issue that blows up like Mt St Helens if I have any more than the tiniest pinch of capsaicin. I say I have an allergy, because telling people you will spend all of the next day bug-eyed and beet-faced on the throne with an rear end in a top hat spraying shitwater like busted fire hydrant isn't the best dinner table conversation. Please just tell us what happens exactly as above because that's funny as hell. Hahahah Warning: you may "accidentally" get some capsaicin because me and my friends are jerks but your vivid imagery won't be forgotten.
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Turkeybone got me thinking about Dussera, which is a 9 day long Hindu festival, where the grownups do all kind of praying, and the children stuff their faces with as many sweets as they can get their grubby paws on. And having long-rear end festivals in a large family is awesome, especially when you're the youngest, because everyone tries to make sure that you have their favourite sweets, so they can share it with you. My cousins loved spoiling me senseless. 
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pnumoman posted:Ug, I hate people like that, mostly because I'm actually allergic to fluke and flounder, How does that work? What are in those fish that isn't in others?
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CuddleChunks posted:Please just tell us what happens exactly as above because that's funny as hell. Hahahah Yep. I'm surprised I haven't cracked the porcelain yet. And the noises!
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Aug 8, 2012 02:25
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"I'm allergic to MSG."
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An observer posted:I have a gut issue that blows up like Mt St Helens if I have any more than the tiniest pinch of capsaicin. I'm not even remotely a physician so disclaimer disclaimer disclaimer, I just pick this poo poo up from reading through articles on PubMed about subjects in which I have an interest. But hey, opportunity for empirical investigation and all that. bunnielab posted:How does that work? What are in those fish that isn't in others? Basically you've got these things called antibodies. They bind to things like bad bacteria and viruses (collectively called antigens), and this tags them for attack by the other parts of your immune system. Whether or not a particular antibody will bind to an particular antigen is largely a question of geometry, kinda like whether or not a particular key will work in a given lock, only with tiny little molecular-scale electromagnetic TinkerToys. The problems arise when an individual's antibodies `think' that a protein (or rather a particular part of a protein) `looks' like part of a bacteria or virus. The antibody binds to the food protein, this triggers an immune response, boom allergic reaction. In practice there are a few large `clusters' of proteins that cause this sort of problem in a (comparatively) large number of individuals. In principle however more or less any protein could cause this sort of reaction in a given specific individual.
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bunnielab posted:How does that work? What are in those fish that isn't in others? I ain't got anything more specific than what SubG posted; all I know is that I couldn't resist the siren song of flounder sashimi when I was a child, and that poo poo made me break out into hives and made my airway swell up like hell. After a few such incidents, I tearfully bid flounder sashimi farewell for the rest of my life, and the remainder of fish-related ER incidents involved seafood stock which turned out to have fluke/flounder scraps in it. I devour non-flatfish with nary a problem, and I have no other food allergies that I know of. (I have a shitton of other allergies, but they've all become very mild since I hit puberty.)
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SubG posted:Have you tried taking aspirin prior to eating foods containing capsaicin? I don't think the mechanism for the burning shits is perfectly understood, but I believe the consensus is that it's related to capsaicin stimulating the release of cytokines in the digestive tract, and (again I believe) non-steroidal anti-inflammatory medications (like aspirin) are associated with relief from the symptoms resulting from cytokine release in other circumstances (e.g., from the flu). Can Mount Vesuvius be contained? Will Pompeii remain free of its horrific mudslides? Take the aspirin - for science!!! Please do not post pics.
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People get mad and pushy when you say you don't like food that they like because sharing food is a deeply rewarding social behavior that helps affirm relationship bonds. When you say you don't like the food they like--especially if it's food that they've made--you're suggesting (subconsciously) that maybe you don't like them. It's the same with music, some people get really mad if you don't like the same music.
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CuddleChunks posted:Can Mount Vesuvius be contained? Will Pompeii remain free of its horrific mudslides? Take the aspirin - for science!!!
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Semisponge posted:People get mad and pushy when you say you don't like food that they like because sharing food is a deeply rewarding social behavior that helps affirm relationship bonds. When you say you don't like the food they like--especially if it's food that they've made--you're suggesting (subconsciously) that maybe you don't like them. Yes but we're helping those people (especially when it comes to music).
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Aug 8, 2012 16:10
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I found something that makes Yelp reviews tolerable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaSC7qVRL0w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2kkISYgM4U
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Eat my food, it will make you a better person. Now what do I start making for a midnight beach picnic?
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