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Arglebargle III posted:There's often a big cultural disconnect at intellectual institutions between facilities and every other department because of the white/blue collar split. Wasn't some temporary research fellow from the Smithsonian one of Ben Stein's shills for that stupid "Expelled" movie? He was the guy who inappropriately bypassed the proper review process for their journal to publish some Intelligent Design bullshit because he was at the end of his temporary assignment and there wouldn't be any way to punish him.
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Sarion posted:If you look up TANF for your state (or the state he lives in) it will probably give you the best info, since it can vary some. For example, here's Texas; on this site you can find out all kinds of things like: I know the cost of living is a fair bit lower in Texas than here in Sydney but goddamn your welfare system sucks. I did a quick estimate of how much a low income single mother of 3 would receive under our Family Assistance system and got this: quote:Estimated Family Assistance payment (Fortnightly)
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I also misunderstood what that position was. I was thinking of a guy with a doctorate in history who managed the museum or something. Not the guy who managed the various clean up and repair crews. Not that that's not an important job, because it is. Nor does it make the "gently caress government spending that I rely on" any less silly. But it does make a bit more sense. TheIllestVillain posted:I know the cost of living is a fair bit lower in Texas than here in Sydney but goddamn your welfare system sucks. I did a quick estimate of how much a low income single mother of 3 would receive under our Family Assistance system and got this: That's pretty amazing, that's actually liveable. Not a great life, but ~$22000 a year isn't too bad. I don't know details of Australia's healthcare, but I assume that family would have healthcare access too? To be fair, the information I provided was an incomplete picture. That woman with three kids would also get food stamps, which would work out to be probably another $300 something a month, and she and her kids would have access to healthcare through Medicaid. Does Australia have a separate food stamp style program, or is that amount all she would get? Its still more than double what TANF + Food Stamps would give in Texas, though. But in payback, any child support payments she received would be confiscated by the State. Not all States do this, but a fair number take all of it, and some take a portion; some take none. And after three years that welfare payment drops, since only the children can get benefits.
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Sarion posted:That's pretty amazing, that's actually liveable. Not a great life, but ~$22000 a year isn't too bad. I don't know details of Australia's healthcare, but I assume that family would have healthcare access too? We have universal healthcare so all households are covered on that front. We don't have anything similar to food stamps but the Family Assistance program is a generic form of household assistance almost everybody with children is eligible for. Single (or not) parents that don't work are also eligible for another program that can pay as much as $650 a fortnight, those that do work are generally low income workers who are taxed at lower rates or not at all. There are also annual supplementary payments that many with school aged children are eligible for. We also have low income housing, low income healthcare cards and several other programs. I like to think we take care of our less fortunate.
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TheIllestVillain posted:We have universal healthcare so all households are covered on that front. We don't have anything similar to food stamps but the Family Assistance program is a generic form of household assistance almost everybody with children is eligible for. Single (or not) parents that don't work are also eligible for another program that can pay as much as $650 a fortnight, those that do work are generally low income workers who are taxed at lower rates or not at all. There are also annual supplementary payments that many with school aged children are eligible for. We also have low income housing, low income healthcare cards and several other programs. I like to think we take care of our less fortunate. America has a lot of similar things, but they tend to be a lot worse. We have Section 8 housing to help people afford their homes, but it has a limit on the number of people who can receive it. So almost no one can use it, and the wait lists for it take years. Our Welfare seems more like your "Newstart Allowance", in that it's money assistance for people trying to get back into the workforce. The other program you mentioned, Family Assistance; we have nothing like that. We have Food Stamps, and WIC; which kind of help people with low income and children. But not to the extent that program appears to on the website. Plus yours helps families with an income of up to $75000. I don't know what that translates to in American dollars, but I'm pretty sure it's more than $30000, which is the cutoff point for any assistance for most family sizes in the US. And by the time you're getting close to the cutoff, you're getting no real significant help. Maybe $40 a month from food stamps? We do have a lot of tax benefits for low income families though. The Earned Income Tax Credit is pretty good. And most people who are low income pay no income tax, though they still pay payroll taxes. This may be offset by the Earned Income Tax Credit though. And we have some tax credits/deductions for children and child care too. Ultimately, the US does have a social safety net. It's just that the net has huge holes, and its kind of moldy and rotting and falling apart. And once you fall into it, it provides so little support that you'll have trouble ever pulling yourself out of it. Plus, half the country is standing beneath it with scissors getting ready to cut it out from under you. And its not uncommon for some of those people with the scissors to be the kind of people for whom one bad injury or unplanned pregnancy is all that stands between them and falling in. edit: Just googled Australian to US dollar conversion: $75000 Australia = ~$79000 US. That's crazy. I thought maybe it would be something like $45,000 since it was the cutoff for an assistance program. But $79000? I wish we provided that kind of assistance in the US. Sarion fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Aug 10, 2012 |
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Also, apparently, "Liberals Are Now Boycotting Papa Johns!" is a thing on Facebook now. Did I miss the boycott memo on this? I know they came out and complained that they were going to have to raise the price of their pizzas a whopping 14 cents to pay for the requirements that make them give their employees quality insurance. But to me, that should be a good thing to most liberals, even if they are complaining. Because the obvious response is, "if it only cost you 14 cents a pizza to do it, you should have been loving doing it in the first place you greedy assholes". But setting that aside, is the boycott a real thing? I'm boycotting them on the principle that their pizza makes me sick when I eat it, but I haven't heard of anything else.
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Sarion posted:Also, apparently, "Liberals Are Now Boycotting Papa Johns!" is a thing on Facebook now. Did I miss the boycott memo on this? I know they came out and complained that they were going to have to raise the price of their pizzas a whopping 14 cents to pay for the requirements that make them give their employees quality insurance. But to me, that should be a good thing to most liberals, even if they are complaining. Because the obvious response is, "if it only cost you 14 cents a pizza to do it, you should have been loving doing it in the first place you greedy assholes". But setting that aside, is the boycott a real thing? I'm boycotting them on the principle that their pizza makes me sick when I eat it, but I haven't heard of anything else. http://www.cnbc.com/id/48594041
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I haven't seen any calling for a boycott, but one of my more liberal friends did post this on his wall:
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Sarion posted:edit: Just googled Australian to US dollar conversion: $75000 Australia = ~$79000 US. That's crazy. I thought maybe it would be something like $45,000 since it was the cutoff for an assistance program. But $79000? I wish we provided that kind of assistance in the US. Cost of living here is also a bit higher, so the numbers would be slightly closer if you used PPP instead of the currency conversion. But yeah, our welfare system is significantly more generous in most ways.
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Section 8 housing tends to be the shittiest housing available in an area too. The apartment complex I live in has a lot of section 8 residents and if the quality of the apartments is anything like mine, they're loving poo poo holes. The property manager is a lazy racist shitbag (six weeks to get me the loving key to my mailbox and then you try to bilk me for $40 when I already paid you for it?). The only reason why I live there is because the rent is cheap and I needed a place to stay on short notice.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:He apparently attacked Obamacare because it would raise his costs. I guess that means he wasn't providing adequate health care? Part of me does believe that companies will raise prices, even of just out of spite so they can punish America for voting for the wrong guy.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:He apparently attacked Obamacare because it would raise his costs. I guess that means he wasn't providing adequate health care? Anyone who balks at paying an extra 14 cents per pizza (or better yet, taking that out of their already impressive profits) in order to provide 16000 people with quality healthcare is a loving rear end in a top hat. American food prices are already low in comparison with Europe, so a 14 cent per pizza increase isn't going to make anyone starve. NatasDog posted:I haven't seen any calling for a boycott, but one of my more liberal friends did post this on his wall: The gently caress? How does the delivery fee go to the store and not the driver? I thought delivery fees were how businesses paid drivers instead of taking cuts out of the food bills? rscott posted:Section 8 housing tends to be the shittiest housing available in an area too. The apartment complex I live in has a lot of section 8 residents and if the quality of the apartments is anything like mine, they're loving poo poo holes. The property manager is a lazy racist shitbag (six weeks to get me the loving key to my mailbox and then you try to bilk me for $40 when I already paid you for it?). The only reason why I live there is because the rent is cheap and I needed a place to stay on short notice. He tried to charge you $40 for a key that cost maybe $2 to make, depending on what place cut and dupes the key? Dr Christmas posted:Part of me does believe that companies will raise prices, even of just out of spite so they can punish America for voting for the wrong guy. Look at it this way, most of the changes from the PPACA haven't even gone into effect yet (most of them will by 2014), but health insurers have already jacked up premiums huge amounts with the justification that it's due to new costs to abide by the new law. Or look at how the changes to credit and debit card regulations were supposed to result in lower consumer prices because businesses were supposed to pass on the savings to consumers, but businesses have generally just been pocketing the difference as profits without lowering prices. Businesses look for any opportunity to raise prices and cut costs without ever taking any responsibility for doing so. They blame each other, the government, theft, etc. to justify lining further their pockets, just so consumers don't realize businesses don't give any fucks about them, no matter how much fellating of private enterprise there is in this country. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find business owners using the "punish liberal Americans" justification to raise prices, especially if Obama gets reelected, even if they don't articulate it publicly to anyone who doesn't already agree with their ideology.
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So thanks to my mom, I'm now aware of the next Waiting for Superman-style conservative documentary. This one has the charming title of Runaway Slave, which of course refers to the economic "slavery" that those bad ol' big government liberals have inflicted on black people since the Great Society. I couldn't bring myself to go past the first page where noted war criminal Allen West endorsed it. http://www.runawayslavemovie.com/
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rscott posted:Section 8 housing tends to be the shittiest housing available in an area too. The apartment complex I live in has a lot of section 8 residents and if the quality of the apartments is anything like mine, they're loving poo poo holes. The property manager is a lazy racist shitbag (six weeks to get me the loving key to my mailbox and then you try to bilk me for $40 when I already paid you for it?). The only reason why I live there is because the rent is cheap and I needed a place to stay on short notice. While this is generally true, there is a really high income development around here where I live (central PA) that has a whole section of really nice houses that is specifically for Section 8/HUD housing. Some of the nicest places around here I've seen, and I couldn't be happier for the people that qualify and live there. Leads me to believe that somewhere near here, someone had the basic human decency to offer those without much in the way of, well anything, a decent place in a really safe neighborhood. Doesn't stop shitstains from around here bitching about Welfare Queens and how "they" are going to gently caress up the properties, just you wait!
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Dradien posted:While this is generally true, there is a really high income development around here where I live (central PA) that has a whole section of really nice houses that is specifically for Section 8/HUD housing. Those places might be nice because of regulations concerning gentrification. Real estate developers are interested in building luxury highrises and homes in areas occupied by Section 8 and other subsidized housing projects because the land is valuable due to proximity to major metropolitan areas. City officials are interested in letting them develop there because it perks up the neighborhood property value and tax base, but they don't want all the poor people to get displaced, so the developers have to set aside a certain percentage of the new development for current tenants (i.e. poor people) at the same rates they're paying for the low quality subsidized housing. So, you end up with affluent young professionals living right next to people that have been living in the neighborhood from when it was still considered "the ghetto" to create what's known as a "mixed income neighborhood." This is kind of what's starting to happen on the South Side of Chicago, especially where Cabrini-Green once stood, though it hasn't been without problems, like the demolition outpacing the new building, causing housing uncertainties for former residents.
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Bruce Leroy posted:He tried to charge you $40 for a key that cost maybe $2 to make, depending on what place cut and dupes the key? This is a really common thing that rental properties will try to do. Every apartment I've ever lived in that was in a large complex (like 20+ units) had "key fees" in the contract that I would have had to pay if I was dumb enough to ask the building to replace a key - mailbox, apartment door and garage are usually separate fees too. I usually make my own copy as soon as I move in and keep the original at work in case I lose the one I use all the time and need to make another.
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I'm tempted to try to make an an all-caps screaming faux Christian denunciation chain email about Paul Ryan and Ayn Rand being an atheist who openly found Christianity evil and as dangerous as communism. I've read enough of these emails to get the syntax down, I think. The Papa John's thing now makes sense of a friend saying the other day that he was disappointed that all these people were saying PJ sucked, because it was literally the best pizza we had near our college's campus. Besides, the Dominos founder is much worse, and their pizza 2nd worst to Little Caesars. De Nomolos fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Aug 11, 2012 |
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De Nomolos posted:I'm tempted to try to make an an all-caps screaming faux Christian denunciation chain email about Paul Ryan and Ayn Rand being an atheist who openly found Christianity evil and as dangerous as communism. I've read enough of these emails to get the syntax down, I think. You take that back, Little Ceasar's is awesome pizza and this injustice will not stand!
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De Nomolos posted:Besides, the Dominos founder is much worse, and their pizza 2nd worst to Little Caesars. Dominos was the pizza of choice for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Who were the pizza connoisseurs of my childhood.
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I don't know why this is exactly, but local pizza shops, no matter who or where they are or what style they happen to serve, are always better than chains. It doesn't even have to be a particularly good local shop, the big chains just serve such lovely pizza. You would think that with all their resources the big chains would have managed to create a better pizza, but all they seem to come up with is awful sides and a cup of fake butter to literally pour onto your pizza. And just enormous advertising campaigns, obviously. But you would think somewhere someone in a big pizza chain would come up with the idea of rising above squalid mediocrity in their actual food product, enough at least to be superior to indifferent local pizza shops. But they don't. This is kind of modern American big business in a microcosm.
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Arglebargle III posted:I don't know why this is exactly, but local pizza shops, no matter who or where they are or what style they happen to serve, are always better than chains. It doesn't even have to be a particularly good local shop, the big chains just serve such lovely pizza. Do Zachary's and Amici's count as big chains to you? Because if they do, I'm going to have to ask you to step outside  .
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NatasDog posted:You take that back, Little Ceasar's is awesome pizza and this injustice will not stand! Buy more $5 hot 'n readies, Illitch needs to pay for Prince Fielder's contract.
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Kavak posted:Do Zachary's and Amici's count as big chains to you? Never encountered either of these.
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V-Men posted:Dominos was the pizza of choice for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Who were the pizza connoisseurs of my childhood. The strange thing about TMNT (to me, anyway) was that Domino's got the product placement in the live action movies, but Pizza Hut got all the merchandising tie-ins.
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Arglebargle III posted:Never encountered either of these. Upon examination, Amici's and Zachary's are both Bay Area exclusives, so forget the big chain comment. They are excellent though, look them up if you visit.
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I like Papa Murphy's, plus they can be bought with EBT cards, which is good for making conservative heads explode .
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Sorry not-Orlando-livers. Wrap it up.  http://www.eatdrinkandbelazy.com/
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Limbo posted:I like Papa Murphy's, plus they can be bought with EBT cards, which is good for making conservative heads explode .
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Hey, I just got a thing sent to me. How do you produce this without really questioning what you are saying? At some point, how the gently caress don't you think that this might not be the optimal way to argue your political stance? http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/08/who-are-the-real-racists/ FACT: If you support abortion, it is because you want to kill black babies. And as usual, the comments are awesome. quote:The real racists are negros..all of them, and welfare cheats 
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smokyprogg posted:Hey, I just got a thing sent to me. How do you produce this without really questioning what you are saying? At some point, how the gently caress don't you think that this might not be the optimal way to argue your political stance? Whenever someone busts out this kind of rhetoric, I want to see them cornered and asked, "So if genocide is happening in America right now, why are you and your party most concerned with taxes on the rich?
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Dr Christmas posted:Whenever someone busts out this kind of rhetoric, I want to see them cornered and asked, "So if genocide is happening in America right now, why are you and your party most concerned with taxes on the rich? Because that solves everything and always will you loving dumbass LIEberal.  Can't see it being too far off.
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Arglebargle III posted:I don't know why this is exactly, but local pizza shops, no matter who or where they are or what style they happen to serve, are always better than chains. It doesn't even have to be a particularly good local shop, the big chains just serve such lovely pizza. Part of it is the pricing. Good ingredients are more expensive than the poo poo they use at most chain pizza places, so the smaller shops are going to end up costing more because they use the better ingredients, which leads to people choosing the cheaper but shittier chain pizza. The other thing is that "real" food just isn't as consistent as the assembly line food from chain restaurants. The Pizza Hut you order in Burmingham, Alabama is going to be pretty drat close to the Pizza Hut in Oakland, California, so it becomes reliable for the average consumer even if it is reliably awful. The smaller shops are more of a gamble to consumers, leading them to be more resistant to trying a small shop about which they know nothing. Finally, one of the most important and influential factors is kids. Kids like chain restaurant crap and parents frequently just give with what their kids want because arguing is just a pain in the rear end that goes nowhere and chain restaurant food is both cheaper and easier to get even if the parents don't actually like it for themselves. Chain restaurants give kids the lovely stuff they like, which also lets them get away with using lower quality ingredients (just look at that Jamie Oliver show where all the kids wanted to eat the unhealthy, unappetizing crap for school lunch instead of the awesome stuff he made them), so there's no real incentive to change or improve. smokyprogg posted:Hey, I just got a thing sent to me. How do you produce this without really questioning what you are saying? At some point, how the gently caress don't you think that this might not be the optimal way to argue your political stance? So, their evidence that pro-choice people and doctors who provide abortions are racists are the racists comments from one individual and out of context quotes from Margaret Sanger? It's funny how these people like to portray abortions rights as a genocide of non-whites in transparent attempts to pander to religious conservative minority groups in order to drain support away from Democrats, but yet they intentionally obscure the causal relationship involved, i.e. that higher abortion rates are caused by poverty, which means that higher abortion rates among minorities are due to higher rates of poverty among those groups. They generally don't want to discuss this because it demonstrates how conservatives gently caress over anyone who isn't wealthy, white, Christian, heterosexual, and male and it brings out the unabashed racists among them, as seen in the comments to that link. You missed the best part of that comment, the responses: smokyprogg posted:And as usual, the comments are awesome. quote:
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StealthArcher posted:Because that solves everything and always will you loving dumbass LIEberal. Ah, of course, how could I forget?
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There's a page called the Angry White Guy Blog on Facebook, whose posts a friend who is slowly going off the deep end keeps liking. For example, the following enlightening conversation, started by a weird-looking image of the Obamas.Angry White Man Blog posted:
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Absurd Alhazred posted:There's a page called the Angry White Guy Blog on Facebook, whose posts a friend who is slowly going off the deep end keeps liking. For example, the following enlightening conversation, started by a weird-looking image of the Obamas. What's even better than dog whistles is when they get called out and the speakers and/or their defenders hem-and-haw and equivocate so that they aren't shown for the racists they are. "Huh? So what if I called him 'little Barry?' That's in no way meant to deprive an adult Black man of his masculinity, maturity, and equality, like when segregationists and other racists call/called Black men 'boy.' I'm just telling it like it is and you're just playing the race card."
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Iceberg-Slim posted:Here's a doozie for Thursday morning: Another rebuttal to this would be to mention the US military rifles that had Bible verses inscribed on them
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Arglebargle III posted:The U.S. has dozens of Bay Areas, you're going to have to be more specific. Yeah, there are many bays in the US, but most people understand that Kavak is referring to the San Francisco Bay area.
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