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Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Shadow Labrys doesn't need to be spoilered because she's been an open part of the cast since her announcement. Now talking about what she does in the story is obviously a spoiler.

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Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy
Honestly I'm surprised people take the story of P4A that seriously. What parts I've seen just looked like your typical hastily strewn together fighter-game plot.

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
This user has a YU and Kanji playthrough (Warning: Commercials)
http://www.youtube.com/show?p=dhyt9n3rE94

This user seems to have a few more, including the P3 characters.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheInnocentSinful/videos

Yeah, arcade mode basically makes it out to be another dungeon.


Edit: I can't get enough of Teddie's story. He flirts with every girl and in general is funnier. It's different than the others. Every other P4 character has the same general storyline Fight friends, rescue Risette, OMG Labrys but Teddie's takes a slightly different turn.

Double edit: Oh, Story Mode and Arcade Mode are two different things. Story mode is a P3P style story with it broken up by fights. That's why you don't see that on YouTube yet. The clips you are watching are probably from arcade mode. which only uses post fight commentary.

Dehry fucked around with this message at 07:28 on Aug 9, 2012

Cityinthesea
Aug 7, 2009

Rascyc posted:

Honestly I'm surprised people take the story of P4A that seriously. What parts I've seen just looked like your typical hastily strewn together fighter-game plot.

Nah, it's actually pretty well done. Some are better than others, it can be a little hard to decide what's actually canon or not, but I liked the story mode, and I've played 7 of them so far. I mean, sure, this is a straight up Visual Novel with fights thrown in, but I like it. It's definitely not strewn together, from what I've played. Formulaic? maybe.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
I have a question about Devil Survivor 2 (Day Three)

Jungo died at the beginning of the mission where you have to save Daichi, what caused this?Did I take too long?

Pierce
Apr 7, 2007

Fool!

Kurtofan posted:

I have a question about Devil Survivor 2 (Day Three)

Jungo died at the beginning of the mission where you have to save Daichi, what caused this?Did I take too long?

Yes, you took to long. Anytime there are opportunities to save someone you have to do it right away. I lost folks on my first time through. Not a huge deal unless you want the perfect ending and only playing to the end once.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Pierce posted:

Yes, you took to long. Anytime there are opportunities to save someone you have to do it right away. I lost folks on my first time through. Not a huge deal unless you want the perfect ending and only playing to the end once.

I see thanks,I'll be more careful next time.

NinjaDebugger
Apr 22, 2008


Kurtofan posted:

I see thanks,I'll be more careful next time.

Also, as far as I can tell, there is an upper limit to the number of people you can let die. I tried to do a run with as many deaths as possible, and after the first few, it stopped letting me let people die at all. It actually forced me to go give the pep-talk to whatsherface so she wouldn't die.

Axle_Stukov
Feb 26, 2011

Stylin'

NinjaDebugger posted:

Also, as far as I can tell, there is an upper limit to the number of people you can let die. I tried to do a run with as many deaths as possible, and after the first few, it stopped letting me let people die at all. It actually forced me to go give the pep-talk to whatsherface so she wouldn't die.

The limit is 3 maximum, with 1 person per day 7 faction, so for example Jungo and Io cannot both die, likewise Keita and Makato make a pair, and Joe and Otome make the third.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Do I ever get to actually fight anybody in Labrys's story mode? It just seems to be all the :words: ever.

Edit: There's even multiple fights against models just like her. Why couldn't I have played any one of those?

Len fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Aug 10, 2012

Dresh
Jun 15, 2008

hrmph.

Len posted:

Do I ever get to actually fight anybody in Labrys's story mode? It just seems to be all the :words: ever.

Edit: There's even multiple fights against models just like her. Why couldn't I have played any one of those?

Because you'd probably derive some twisted entertainment out of it. :colbert:

There'll be a fight, but Labrys acts as more of a prologue than anything else.

TurnipFritter
Apr 21, 2010
10,000 POSTS ON TALKING TIME

New Soul Hackers trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfL63MetKT4

Nothing really exciting except for some new SMT4 music at the very end. The SMT4 website has a remix of the Chaos theme from SMT2 as a hidden track.

vanov
Sep 19, 2005

sup space lol
Beary disappointed with Yu's P4A VA. I guess Adachi's VA needed a job, but it's so ... unsettling. Also what the gently caress is a venisonian.

Serisothikos
Dec 4, 2004

Unlimited Pasta Pass

vanov posted:

Beary disappointed with Yu's P4A VA. I guess Adachi's VA needed a job, but it's so ... unsettling. Also what the gently caress is a venisonian.

This post is beautiful.


Johnny Yong Bosch voiced the Protagonist in P4.

Admiral H. Curtiss
May 11, 2010

I think there are a bunch of people who can create trailing images. I know some who could do this as if they were just going out for a stroll.
By the way, how are Chie and Teddie in P4A? I want to know what I'm supposed to expect as their new voices in P4 Vita.

Serisothikos
Dec 4, 2004

Unlimited Pasta Pass

Admiral H. Curtiss posted:

By the way, how are Chie and Teddie in P4A? I want to know what I'm supposed to expect as their new voices in P4 Vita.

I actually find myself enjoying Teddie's new voice a bit more. Not 100% sure how I feel about Chie but it's not bad or anything, just different. I don't think it'll even come close to interfering with how much I'll enjoy the game.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Chie's voice is realllllly hit or miss. I've noticed she does some scenes well and then others sound just absolutely awful.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Sounds a lot like her VA in P4, where she could've either been the most natural sounding character of the bunch or absolutely terrible.

Pash
Sep 10, 2009

The First of the Adorable Dead

Admiral H. Curtiss posted:

By the way, how are Chie and Teddie in P4A? I want to know what I'm supposed to expect as their new voices in P4 Vita.

I really liked teddies old voice, and some of the previews scared me... but so far Teddie had been pretty good. I agree with the others on Chie, really hit or miss. Some things are really just painful, but most stuff is fine.

Chickenfrogman
Sep 16, 2011

by exmarx
On the Persona story talk, I do hope they keep 5 and P4A seperate. Continuing P4A's stuff in an expansion? Sweet. But I'd rather not take it into a new game. Just keep the mainline series doing as it was doing already with each game being primarily independent with some tie-ins.

vanov
Sep 19, 2005

sup space lol

Serisothikos posted:

This post is beautiful.


Johnny Yong Bosch voiced the Protagonist in P4.

That explains why the two sound identical. It's hard to tell in P4 since he doesn't say much beyond "Persona!" and the names of whatever he's summoning.

Blhue
Apr 22, 2008

Fallen Rib

Sex_Ferguson posted:

Sounds a lot like her VA in P4, where she could've either been the most natural sounding character of the bunch or absolutely terrible.

So you're saying... sometimes, she misses her chance?

Krad
Feb 4, 2008

Touche

Chickenfrogman posted:

On the Persona story talk, I do hope they keep 5 and P4A seperate. Continuing P4A's stuff in an expansion? Sweet. But I'd rather not take it into a new game. Just keep the mainline series doing as it was doing already with each game being primarily independent with some tie-ins.

They should just say "screw it" and make P5 about the mixed cast from 3/4 going through college.

vanov
Sep 19, 2005

sup space lol

Krad posted:

They should just say "screw it" and make P5 about the mixed cast from 3/4 going through college.

Maya gives up writing for Coolest to become a college professor in Awesomeology. Seems legit!

Edit: P4/A spoilers
Wife: I wish you could play as Adachi! Bust his rear end out of prison!
Me: "Hey, can I get a TV in my cell?"

Also why the gently caress is Harley Quinn in P4A? (Labrys has so much Jersey on her, srs)

vanov fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Aug 14, 2012

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
The way Labrys spoke in Japan was of the Kansai dialect and that dialect is heavily associated with rural areas of Japan like Osaka. The american equivalent of that dialect is either a boston accent or a southern one and since the southern one has been done to death, why not shoot for boston?

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

It's weird that there doesn't seem to be a consensus on what her dubbed accent is. I've seen people variously refer to it as Boston, Brooklyn, Bronx, and Jersey.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
I've heard a lot of people saying Boston, so that's what I'm assuming it is and that'd make sense. Although I haven't heard her voice clearly because there's no vids on YouTube yet of her English VA since everyone wants to play their anime fighters in Japanese, go figure.

Hamsterlady
Jul 8, 2010

Corpse Party, bitches.

vanov posted:

That explains why the two sound identical. It's hard to tell in P4 since he doesn't say much beyond "Persona!" and the names of whatever he's summoning.

This really bothers me too. I knew going in that Yu and Adachi had the same voice actor, but I was hoping it wouldn't sound like Adachi is going around wearing Yu's skin.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
You can easily solve the problem by just having Yu speak deeper, it's not like he doesn't look like the kind of a character with a low voice or by having Adachi speak a bit higher. Yes, they will sound similar, but JYB can't exactly be nutty all of the time as Adachi, which is where his voicework with Adachi truly shines. That or you could just get Yu a different VA, but that would cost more money when they already have an established VA for him.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
Every time Labrys speaks I imagine she's really Peacock from Skullgirls and I can't take her seriously.

El Belmondo
Apr 3, 2011

by XyloJW

W.T. Fits posted:

It's weird that there doesn't seem to be a consensus on what her dubbed accent is. I've seen people variously refer to it as Boston, Brooklyn, Bronx, and Jersey.

My opinion is Southern NY/Jersey because I live a ride outside of Boston, and the pronunciation isn't similar.

I love it anyway :3:

vanov
Sep 19, 2005

sup space lol
Labrys's dropped letters sound less like Kennedy (emphasis on accented A's) and more like Sheila Broflovski from South Park (O's) so I'm going with Jersey. I've heard both in real life, but I figured that would be an easy way to communicate examples. What a nerdy post this became.

As was mentioned, that's my problem exactly with JYB's Yu, it sounds like Adachi kidnapped Yu and turned him into a body suit.

The GIG
Jun 28, 2011

Yeah, I say "Shit" a shit-ton of times. What of it, shithead?
You know, all this Yu and Adachi talk makes me want an alternate version of P4 where Adachi is just a paper bag puppet on Yu's hand.

Serisothikos
Dec 4, 2004

Unlimited Pasta Pass
Having grown up around Boston and living here now, and having lived in northern NJ for several years, it definitely sounds closest to a New York/New Jersey accent to me. The vowels aren't flat enough for it to be Bostonian.

Megami Tensei Megathread Mk. II: Video Game Character Phonemes Chat

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


Could I get some personal feedback on Devil Summoner? I think I'm gonna hear that Devil Summoner was a fun game but not worth the $50+ it costs to acquire a copy and Devil Summoner 2 is better in every regard, but still nearly as expensive.
I just want to hear a review of both games by someone that's more of a gamer, than a diehard 'you're worthless if you don't have all the megami games' guy.

But can someone tell me what the two games are like? I'm trying to expand my Megami line and my PS2 library at the same time.

vanov
Sep 19, 2005

sup space lol

Ineffiable posted:

Could I get some personal feedback on Devil Summoner? I think I'm gonna hear that Devil Summoner was a fun game but not worth the $50+ it costs to acquire a copy and Devil Summoner 2 is better in every regard, but still nearly as expensive.
I just want to hear a review of both games by someone that's more of a gamer, than a diehard 'you're worthless if you don't have all the megami games' guy.

But can someone tell me what the two games are like? I'm trying to expand my Megami line and my PS2 library at the same time.

I prefer 1:OC because I can't get into the story of 2, my wife prefers 2 because she can't get into the characters of 1. I would advocate either though, and 2 having a compendium makes it gameplay-superior in my opinion.

JumbocactuarX27
Jan 9, 2011

Blargh! I'm a space parasite!

vanov posted:

I prefer 1:OC because I can't get into the story of 2, my wife prefers 2 because she can't get into the characters of 1. I would advocate either though, and 2 having a compendium makes it gameplay-superior in my opinion.

I haven't played Devil Summoner, but I think you're talking about Devil Survivor on the Nintendo DS.

vanov
Sep 19, 2005

sup space lol

JumbocactuarX27 posted:

I haven't played Devil Summoner, but I think you're talking about Devil Survivor on the Nintendo DS.

I sure am, gently caress those names are confusing.

I played Summoner and liked it fine, though haven't played 2 even though I own it because :effort: and the majority opinion here seems like it's much better mechanically. I guess the same way I feel about the Survivors, really.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
I've only played the Raidou games of Devil Summoner, but I can give an opinion, if you'd like. Devil Summoner 1 is decent. The gameplay is really easy to get bored with since Raidou doesn't have anything more complex than his basic moves, there's still the demon gimmick, but now you catch them in tubes by ways of a little mashing gimmick, it's really not bad and I prefer it to conversations if only because I got sick of Demon conversations after Nocturne. It has the normal SMT conventions, fusing demons, using various amounts of them and the Devil Summoner actually uses Japanese mythology for the Raidou games in terms of major enemies. There's really not a lot to say about the story it's not very interesting until the end. The characters are actually pretty good and you get to meet Grigori Rasputin who uses Matryoshka dolls to summon demons. There's not much in the way from sidequests from what I remember though and overall it's kind of an average game.

Devil Summoner 2 however is one of my favorite MegaTen games, I love that game to death. The gameplay's been improved, Raidou now has more options for attacks even if he's still simple, you can have two demons out at once which is a godsend, and there's a lot more to do in the way of sidequests. The story is really good, the game now offers multiple endings in the same vain of SMT, but essentially there's only really two endings as Neutral is the same as one of the others, I don't remember which. The new characters they introduce are really good and the even bring more Devil Summoner clans into the mix that they mention in the first game. The game also drops Japanese mythology for the most part and actually uses some Judeo-Christian stuff, Yes, Louis Cyphre does show up and it's just an overall really great game. Devil Summoner 2 however drops the tube collecting demons for conversations, which I'm like the only person in the world who didn't like, but DS2 is more like an actual main series SMT game than the first one in general.

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Dj Meow Mix
Jan 27, 2009

corgicorgicorgicorgi
rockin everywhere


Ineffiable posted:

But can someone tell me what the two games are like? I'm trying to expand my Megami line and my PS2 library at the same time.

The Raidou games use mystery investigation in the overworld along with demon abilities to help out. In combat, you and your demon (2 in the second game) are able to move around freely, kind of like the Tales series games. It's not as combo oriented though. All the SMT staples are there, demon fusion/recruitment, weird story, fun combat, etc.

Summoner 2 eliminates some of the tedious bullshit from the first game in the overworld, which is nice. The combat changes make gameplay more varied and fast paced in my opinion. Also demon negotiation is cool as hell. Knowledge of Summoner 1 isn't required, so I'd suggest playing Summoner 2 first before deciding if you want the first game or not.

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