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Nemesis Of Moles posted:I liked the part where the cop was all 'Hey beat him up some' to you. I bet he only said that because they were asian and kawaii~*~*~
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I think you're missing the point. What they're doing is totally wrong and I won't defend it for an instant. I've known enough anime people to know what a glomp is and I know it's loving creepy. but in what world is the correct response 'punch to the face'? or this: quote:"Touch me if you want your hand broken. (Yes, I could break his hand or give his arm a spiral fracture!) Assuming of course, you're not embellishing the hell out of your story to make yourself seem more "badass".
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Aug 25, 2012 23:26
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And this is why, at a con, you ask someone if you can get a picture of/with them, and thank them afterwards. It's just polite! Also: con flu. I have never encountered any other gathering where going nets you a chance of coming home sick.
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Aug 25, 2012 23:42
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:Were you actually planning it? Because you make it sound here like you would've actually tried to go through with it. If this is an appropriate level of retribution, you've got issues. It's okay, the cop gave permission. I wish I could throw punches behind my back and knock a person running towards me to the ground. I mean, I'd probably just have people I'd just punched smashing into me, or something, instead of my fist being enough to cancel out their momentum and reverse it. But my knuckles are depleted uranium so at least I wouldn't break them punching someone running all-out toward me. What I'm saying is I do think there's a little embellishing here and there.
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Aug 26, 2012 00:13
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Horrible Smutbeast posted:I bet he only said that because they were asian and kawaii~*~*~ The cop's reaction is totally unrealistic. He should have slowly started clapping and getting everyone else to join in.
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Aug 26, 2012 00:24
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Lesson for the poster: If you're gonna make up some dumb story about besting some guy at a AnimeCon, try to make sure you don't sound like a violent psychopath.
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Aug 26, 2012 00:32
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I actually have a short (Asian as well :/) female friend who would do the same thing, and while not trained at all I could see her knocking someone down. Especially if they were running at her. It's not how hard you hit, it's how hard you mean it. Hilarious visuals from that story. I actually added in comic book (think Scott Pilgrim) visuals. And then turned you into the chick from that movie.
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Aug 26, 2012 00:52
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How else can you handle someone who has no concept of "Bad Touch" and basically ambushes you? It's not like she had fair warning or could see it coming and thus repel him more politely. Sometimes a slap is the appropriate response. In more extreme cases a more extreme response is warranted.
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Aug 26, 2012 00:54
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I don't know about everyone else but the amazing backwards flying knockout punch wasn't the psychopath part. The boasts about spiral fractures and hand breaking was my issue.
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Aug 26, 2012 01:02
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Edit: ^^^ yeah, that.Nemesis Of Moles posted:I liked the part where the cop was all 'Hey beat him up some' to you. And then the whole convention broke out in applause. Guesticles fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Aug 26, 2012 |
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Guesticles posted:And then the whole convention broke out in applause. Then the cop said "welcome to the Republican Party!" After the "Tell Me About Violence" thread where people are talking about how traumatic it was to be in fights/have hurt people the spiral fracture stuff was jarring. The ABFKOP was just the part where "oh this is based on a true story." [e: or, read this thread before writing happy fun hurting-people scenes.] Rose Wreck fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Aug 26, 2012 |
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Aug 26, 2012 01:19
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Y'all are free to be polite about it, but I reserve the right to threaten people and/or physically defend myself from unwanted assaults. You guys can shake your finger and lecture creepy people after they've already crossed the line and groped you, but I'm going to stop it from happening in the first place even if "violence is wrong". Unwanted touching is wrong too.
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Aug 26, 2012 01:45
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Apology posted:Y'all are free to be polite about it, but I reserve the right to threaten people and/or physically defend myself from unwanted assaults. You guys can shake your finger and lecture creepy people after they've already crossed the line and groped you, but I'm going to stop it from happening in the first place even if "violence is wrong". Unwanted touching is wrong too. Nemesis Of Moles posted:I don't know about everyone else but the amazing backwards flying knockout punch wasn't the psychopath part. The boasts about spiral fractures and hand breaking was my issue.
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Aug 26, 2012 02:17
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RedMagus posted:Also: con flu. I have never encountered any other gathering where going nets you a chance of coming home sick. I had con flu all of once. I'm pretty sure the main cause of it was that I wasn't eating anywhere near properly and I didn't hydrate nearly as much. Today, I can go to a con with the nastiest of neckbeard, and I'm totally fine as long as I stay away from the awful concerts or "raves". Just because Funky Greasebeast thinks it's OK to subsist on pocky, ramune, and Wendy's all weekend doesn't mean that you should forego eating well yourself.
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Nemesis Of Moles posted:I don't know about everyone else but the amazing backwards flying knockout punch wasn't the psychopath part. The boasts about spiral fractures and hand breaking was my issue. Hands break incredibly easily, especially when punched. It's almost as if they were designed to manipulate fine detail and not punching yet here we are.
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:I think you're missing the point. What they're doing is totally wrong and I won't defend it for an instant. I've known enough anime people to know what a glomp is and I know it's loving creepy. You may think she is being over the top, but if a stranger tackles me from behind and tries to give me a horrible bear hug, I'm gonna gently caress that person up. He may have the most innocent of intentions, but I can't read minds, so groping me = being assaulted, and I will react to the threat in any way I can to keep myself safe. Once you invade my personal space, and try to grope me just like that and I don't know who you are, I will defend myself. You can argue all you want about how such reaction is too violent, however you don't seem to have any sort of understanding on how threatened people (specially women) can feel when their personal space is invaded and they are being touched by strangers without permission.
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Chido posted:You may think she is being over the top, but if a stranger tackles me from behind and tries to give me a horrible bear hug, I'm gonna gently caress that person up... Once you invade my personal space, and try to grope me just like that and I don't know who you are, I will defend myself. Ok. Screaming for help and elbowing or kneeing or whatever? I don't think anyone's confused about that part, that's one of many normal reactions. Attacking them after the fact is a little off. If you are totally unable to decide which bone to break just in case someone should touch you, I don't know what to tell you.
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So the message here is that if a stranger jumps on you from behind, you should totally go along with it and not react in any way ? What the gently caress is wrong with people in this thread ? It sounds like reddit and tumblr had a crack baby. And that crack baby is a glomper.
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She didn't attack him after the fact, she warned him that if he tried to glomp her again she'd break his hand. Also, I don't go mauling everybody who touches me, it is the intentional invasion of my personal space and groping that I hate, and if somebody I don't know and have never met gropes/glomps me out of the blue, I will react violently because I do it on reflex. I don't know where you get she hit him after the fact. She saw somebody was going to tackle her, she reacted on impulse and her first reaction (she even says she did it without thinking) was to hit the guy who was about to grope her. THEN she warned him that if he tried to glomp her again, she'd break his hand. Edit: ^^^ it seems some people just can't graps that OMG other people cannot read their minds, and their innocent glomping can be seen as groping and tackling complete strangers for the sake of ~@KAWAII@~ can make the victim feel threatened and even assaulted. Chido fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Aug 26, 2012 |
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Aug 26, 2012 03:50
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mllaneza posted:So the message here is that if a stranger jumps on you from behind, you should totally go along with it and not react in any way ? What the gently caress is wrong with people in this thread ? It sounds like reddit and tumblr had a crack baby. And that crack baby is a glomper. Or maybe people are just responding to an over the top shitthatdidnthappen.txt story where someone outlines what bones they'll break and what kind of fractures it'll cause while spouting out lines that sound like they belong in a Tarantino film. Oh yeah, and the security guard was totes okay with the asian kungfu master beating on the fat nerd rather than, you know, stopping violence and keeping peace. Then all the nerds totally started a slow clap and the poster laughed about all the fat nerds. Nobody is saying you shouldn't defend yourself against harassment or molestation, they're saying the story is probably a fakepost. The whole "white girls said I had super geisha power over men" thing is sort of the giveaway.
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RedMagus posted:Also: con flu. I have never encountered any other gathering where going nets you a chance of coming home sick. This is a thing in most nerd gatherings, not just anime.
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Yeah, the problem isn't 'Girl Defended herself from creepy werido" which you may notice is a theme we usually think is kicking rad in this thread. The problem is it's an embarrassing fakepost that'd be more at home with 'This Troper took a level in badass when' at the start of it. I mean come on, no one in here is seriously siding with the fictional glomping nerd. Don't be dense.
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Chido posted:I don't know where you get she hit him after the fact. She saw somebody was going to tackle her, she reacted on impulse and her first reaction (she even says she did it without thinking) was to hit the guy who was about to grope her. THEN she warned him that if he tried to glomp her again, she'd break his hand. Well, no. I cannot believe I had to read that thing more than once. Here is the bit where that happens. quote:Me: *Eating a hamburger* So random racist dude says "are those real" to which she responds by telling him she'll put him in the ER if he touches her. Neither actually assaults the other. The attempted-tackler with fantasy punch sequence happens next in the story. He is a different person who comes running up out of nowhere. [e: seriously if you can scare people off with your mad-face you don't need to go twisting bits of their skeletons until they snap apart.] Rose Wreck fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Aug 26, 2012 |
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"Hey baby, that's a nice outfit.
"Yeah, that's awesome. Go away."
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FengShuiNinja posted:She was a professional Psychologist so she gave us some great insight to reasons why some people had socially unacceptable behavior. It was a riot. I've heard cons have had a crackdown on signs asking for hugs or other stuff as it basically counts as soliciting.
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This is quickly piling up into a hell of a circlejerk. I admit what Feng wrote requires a bit of a stretch of the imagination; I think she now understands that maybe she should put a bit more consideration into what she writes in this thread, maybe at least read what the others posted. If what they shared is indeed true (and I highly believe that the majority of them are), then the subject matter and the way they write them should be enough for anybody to get a grasp on good storytelling. That's not to say that I'm some expert on prose and composition myself. I could go into long detail relating the stories of "My Brother the Furry" now, but my brain is a little inarticulate and I don't even know if this is the right place.
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mllaneza posted:So the message here is that if a stranger jumps on you from behind, you should totally go along with it and not react in any way ? What the gently caress is wrong with people in this thread ? It sounds like reddit and tumblr had a crack baby. And that crack baby is a glomper. Nemesis Of Moles posted:Yeah, the problem isn't 'Girl Defended herself from creepy werido" which you may notice is a theme we usually think is kicking rad in this thread. The problem is it's an embarrassing fakepost that'd be more at home with 'This Troper took a level in badass when' at the start of it.
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:Oh yes, don't react at all, that's what people are saying. There's not at all a huge gap between 'push them away, then tell them to gently caress off' and 'break all the bones in their arm I can do that you know'. Nemesis Of Moles posted:Yeah, the problem isn't 'Girl Defended herself from creepy werido" which you may notice is a theme we usually think is kicking rad in this thread. The problem is it's an embarrassing fakepost that'd be more at home with 'This Troper took a level in badass when' at the start of it. This pretty much sums up this derail. I'm awaiting Kinmik's awesome tails of sibling furrydom.
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While Feng writes like a crazy, I'm totally with her on the 'gonna gently caress up glompers' front. When they choose to violently touch me and grope me in a way that simulates an attack and don't even loving know me, they choose to give up their rights to not be smacked in the face. I'm not breaking anyone's nose, but only because my fight instinct has me more of a slapper than a puncher. Glomping is horrifying if you are a normal person who is not morbidly desperate for human contact. Imagine you're just hanging out minding your own business, trying to have a good time, and then suddenly there's a fullbody WHAM, and for a second you think some equipment has fallen or you've had a horrible accident. The kind where a crowd gathers and someone starts repeating "omigod" over and over in sickened tones while other voices yell for an ambulance. When your brain comes down from the shock, you realise you are fully enveloped in a thick cushion of warm flab. All the breath has been knocked out of you and you fight for air through your crushed ribcage. Your attacker is jerking you bodily back and forth, and their death grip is the only thing keeping you upright. Sweaty dampness seeps through your clothes and smears over your skin. You manage to suck in some air, and a thick stench of B.O. suddenly floods your nostrils. A voice that knows no appropriate indoor levels shrieks "AAAAAAAAAA HIHIHIHI YOU ARE JUST SO KAAAWAAAAIIIIIII!!!". As you attempt to struggle free, a fat paw sneaks around to your rear end and furtively slides across in the creepiest of awkward gropes before finally letting you go. Glomping is to hugging what sexual assuult is to kissing. It's violent and unwanted intimate contact that only happens because the person behind it is too broken to know how to make you do these things to them voluntarily.
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Worse is when they pick you up. I will never understand what makes them think that picking up a woman without her permission is a good idea that will result in anything other than panicked flailing. Glomping, touching, picking up, petting or any other form of physical contact without permission is not okay. That said, I'm pretty sure that was a TVTropes kind of story.
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Aug 26, 2012 06:18
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It was entertaining enough. Fake (or real) post on FengShuiNinja!
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Octatonic posted:It was entertaining enough. Fake (or real) post on FengShuiNinja! here here!
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Aug 26, 2012 07:20
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Gunfighter_IX posted:Whelp, that custom title and avatar didn't take very long to show up.
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So, I actually am really against programming on TV that invites the mockery of others. "Rubbernecking television" my dad would call it. Dr. Phil, Jeremy Kyle etc etc. And yet, here I sat today, reading all of and catching up with I married an Animuu. You broke me, Uglynoodles, you broke me and I don't mind.
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fritz posted:This is a thing in most nerd gatherings, not just anime. I think any sufficiently large gathering of people of about that age will do the same. I used to get flu/viral infections all the time at university. I rarely do now. Hail to Mighty Mother Russia This is a bit tame compared to some of the stories here, but I'm a member of a Meet-up group that does walks, and the guy who runs it, who we'll call Mike, seems a good fit. You see, he doesn't have great social skills. I can't quite work out if he's just a socially inept nerd (he certainly looks like one) or there's actually something wrong with him. I should really have guessed this before I went on my first event, because he managed to get into a dispute with some guy over whether or not he had fairly announced what he was going to charge for a walk. He sent the guy a flamingly abusive message telling him to gently caress off, through meetup.com, meaning he in effect e-mailed it to his entire loving membership, including me, who'd never met him at that point. I think some people were kind of put off by that. On the walks, he seems particularly keen on getting to know the new female members, chiefly through laying some of the lamest/weirdest chat-up lines you've ever heard on them. He told a woman called Mia (I think) that her name meant "spirit" but added that "if you're a ghost, you're a beautiful one."  Later on the same walk, Mike was talking to a tall, blonde Russian woman and started into this conversation about what a great place he thought Russia was. I will admit to thinking "Yeah, because you think it's the Land of the Tall Blonde Women, I bet." He then asked her if she thought some book called Snow Drops, which I've never heard of, was any good (she didn't sound over-impressed). She then started on about Anna Karenina . He had never heard of it. He clearly vaguely recognised the name Tolstoy, but didn't really know anything about him, even when I chipped in "He wrote War and Peace , you know." So I'm sticking with the Land of the Tall Blonde Women theory for now.
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Oh wow this thread exploded - I wasn't away that long  I'll try and write up something about Rachels' Hilarious Lies today - Basically I just want an excuse to tell you about how on any given day, she was either dying - or I was dying, or on one occasion my best friend was dying. Oh, and the shocking reveal that I still laugh about that resulted in us becoming kind-of friends.
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a cock shaped fruit posted:Oh wow this thread exploded - I wasn't away that long I hope you'll post this tonight. I'm just...too curious to wait!
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Instead of eating food for my lunch break I decided to start typing this up, oops. There is a mandarin that is quite upset that it isn't eaten yet goons!  "Rachel's Hilarious Lies - Prologue" After the slapping incident Rachel took on the demeanor of a beaten dog, moping about with her tail between her legs. She still did stupid 'Warfare" poo poo, but it was all generally harmless - it was like living with a serial pranker who had no idea how to pull off a good prank, and besides - I was getting used to finding my 'Predator' dvd in the 'Judge Dredd' box. Now, the town I live isn't a big place, and I am fortunate enough that pretty much all my friends are within sensible walking distance (I didn't drive) and whenever I wasn't looking for work, doing small time work or being annoyed by Rachel, I would visit my friends when they were home. The thing is, before I was kicked out of home - it was usually my friends coming to visit me, so after weeks (WEEKS) of me visiting them, they started asking me when we'd have a Friday gaming session at my new place, or drink or whatever. Now, we all know Rachel is a goddamn fruit loop, but I hadn't gone into crazy detail about her to my friends beyond 'My housemate is weird' and 'Super weeaboo' etc, so I guess I was trying to avoid any stupid face off like she was known for. My friends were getting annoyed, but I was justifying it as I'd rather my friends be annoyed with me than Rachel. This all changed, when I returned home one day, walked into the 'lounge room/my room/kitchen' to discover - Rachel had friends over! And not only friends - but acquaintances of mine! Not deadset friends like my close buddies, but people I went to college with and later went to anime club with a couple times (stopped going, they start showing an anime that was uncomfortably weird about a school of magic that seemed obsessed with showing me broomstick panty shots). Now Rachel is confused as hell, when all her friends immediately ditch what they were doing to talk with me, and catch up and the like. Now it was awkward for a short moment, because turns out Rachel had just finished explaining to them that her housemate pretended to be a girl on the lease form (sigh) and then tried to force himself onto her in a naked rage. And then I walked in and ruined it all. Now I pride myself on being the kind of person that can make anyone laugh, and I get a lot of joy from sharing a laugh with friends - so pretty much all these people had great memories of me at college goofing around and later at anime club, working to annoy the anime club president who we affectionately called 'Rimmer' for obvious reasons (that's another story). So sadly Rachel's transsexual rapist picture shattered immediately. So I joined the party, Rachel eventually warmed up, and we watched some anime together (a rad anime about a world where people have some inner strength {alters?} that could manifest and fight, the main character had some super arm and could 'Bullet Punch' people, if anyone knows the name I'd love it if you told me, can't for the life of me name it) So the night progresses, we eat chocolate and drink a little and later I go outside with one of the girls (Lisa) to keep her company while she has a smoke. Now Lisa and I were friends from waay back, as she was good mates with a girlfriend I had in college, so we have a nice catch up - and eventually the conversation turns to Rachel. L: "So, poo poo, how long have you lived with Rachel?" Me: "Um, 2 months now? I think." L: "You're brave. We can hardly handle her at club. We're here tonight because we had nowhere else to go. Her last roommate is friends with (person I can't remember) and he said she came onto him really hard one night after drinking and he moved out." Wait a second, back it up. 'He'? Yes, it turn's out Rachel tells everyone she is a lesbian, until she get's some drinks into her and she is now quite Hetero. I later met the ex-house mate, and he was a little quiet dude who liked an anime named Maburaho and the thought of her attempting to straddle him gave me images of a Labrador trying to mount a chihuahua. So Lisa filled me in on all she knew about Rachel, and most importantly that Rachel ranges from downright impossible to get along with, to reasonably agreeable if she was in a good mood. I just needed to get on her good side and I should be able to stay there. We head back inside, and finish the night up in wild style (as wild as drinking light beer and watch anime can be) and somehow Rachel is quite agreeable. I put the constant lies out of my head and decide that maybe things will be better now we have shared a 'moment'. I also decide that if she is being less cold to me, maybe my mates can come over and we can have a night and let the past stay behind us. The following week is quite pleasant - me and Rachel actually talk on occasion (small chit chat) and on one evening we even split the cost on a 2 pizza deal, and everything seems fine. We aren't 'best buds for life' or anything, but thing's are very enjoyable. But there was one thing. I saw Lisa in town on day, and she gave me a hug that was longer than usual, and her eyes seemed sad. It was like she had something to say, but didn't want to share. Now, I was worried so I arranged for us to hang out at a pub near her house that Friday, and I'd see if she wanted to share her problems. So Friday night comes, and we're hanging out and having a laugh, she seems a little distant, but it isn't overly worrying - Until I walk her home. So, we're at her front door, and I know that her parents are quite strict and the last thing I want to do is wake them, so we're whispering good nights when suddenly she EXPLODES into tears. Like, REALLY loud bawling, I am confused as poo poo, and quickly walk her away from her front door and up to a bus shelter before her father comes outside and murders me. "I'M SO SOOOORRRRY." she says. "IT'S NOT FAAAAAAIR." I am loving confused. L: "I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND, RACHEL TOLD ME... *sob*" Me: "What? Told you what?" L: "About your....CANCERRR." (burst out crying again.) Me: '  'I am floored. I had no idea what to say, so after a second of would-be silence if not for her part, I just do the general thing of "Um...what?". So Lisa manages, between sobs to tell me how Rachel caught me taking chemo pills, and that my mother calls to check on my treatment and how I was terminal as gently caress. I am half way explaining to Lisa when we hear her dad on their front porch calling out to her, along the lines of "Lisa I know you are out there, you get here right this instant and get inside." poo poo. Lisa gives me a quick puzzled look that pretty much sums up as "We need to talk about this some more, but right now I need to avoid being killed." and runs off. Now this pub and Lisa's house are really loving far from my house, so I have about an hours walk at 2am home, in the cold - and I am furious. This was completely out of left field - I thought Rachel had finally broken down and accepted me as a human being and not some cold blooded reptilian rape monster, but here we are, a new form of sabotage - 'social warfare.' Now, the boring end to this story is that my rage managed to simmer down over at hour walking home in the cold, and as much as I wanted to verbally tear her a new rear end in a top hat for crossing a serious line - I decided to leave it til the morning and sleep in my 'lovely bed'. Over the next week, I managed to not see her at all. It was like she could smell the trouble brewing for her on my end. She left early, and was gone for days (not an unusual thing, she stayed with her mother a lot) so a week passed - and that Friday, she had been gone so long I decided to finally have friends over. 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