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duck monster
Dec 15, 2004

Bozza posted:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9442258/English-Defence-League-leader-to-stand-as-police-commissioner.html


My home county :( Don't see it going down too well though, most kids at my school who actually had Asian friends won't stand for these fucks. It'll be the village area racists, the sort who vote in Nadine Dorres, who'll enable this turd.

North Bedfordshire solidarity against the EDL.

Now would be a good time for the police that actually give a gently caress about lawful order to start smashing these EDL cunts before their own world gets turned upside down by them.

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KayTee
May 5, 2012

Whachoodoin?
When I heard that Kev Carrol was going for this I genuinely LOL'd irl.

As much as it would be a great laugh to see what the election results would be ( there's a few people giggling at the mighty figures gathered by the Democratic Nationalist party in Stoke recently) Kev's campaign is crippled right from the get-go.

First off, they've got to raise five grand. That is, raise five grand, and keep it from going up Tommy Robinson's nose.

Second, from The Home Offive Website:

quote:

A person may not stand as a PCC if: they have been convicted of an imprisonable offence

Kev has been convicted of two offences: A public order offence (which he was kind enough to commit in full view of BBC cameras)And that time he and Tommeh were utter prats in Zurich.

Th Zurich one may not count because: Zurich, but the other one we're not so sure about...

A commentator on Exposing pointed out:

quote:

[We're not sure if Kev was convicted under a] section 4 which [carries] a maximum sentence of 6 months [or] if it was a 4a [where] the maximum sentence is 2 years.

Either way, this is a non-story that's being fed to the sheep in order to convince them that the BFP/EDL are still relevant and doin' thangs, as well as providing a good excuse to add another 'Donate' button to the site. Nothin' more.

Wotsits
Jul 31, 2012

by Fistgrrl
Why anybody would support a Pro-Zionist organization like EDL obviously funded by Zionists is beyond me. The whole blame for immigration of Muslims lands at the feet of Israel and the British for giving them the territory. We had no religous terrorists before the British gave Israel the land and they started sticking their noses where they should belong and lobbying governments to invade countries under false pretenses.

bpower
Feb 19, 2011
edit: Deleting response to Wotsits. He's either mad, a troll or a stupid gimmick.

bpower fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Aug 1, 2012

Fluo
May 25, 2007

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-19082362

quote:

Police investigating missiles thrown during a day of marches in Bristol have released photographs of seven men they want to speak to.

The missiles were thrown on 14 July when the English Defence League (EDL) and counter protesters held demonstrations in the city.

Det Ch Insp Gareth Bevan said: "Our inquiries have led us to seven men who we believe have information which can help us progress our investigation."

He appealed for them to come forward.

Sixteen people were arrested on the day for offences including going equipped to cause damage and assaulting a police officer.

An investigation was also launched to identify other offences committed and the people responsible.

Det Ch Insp Bevan said: "These demonstrations were largely peaceful but there were a small number of people prepared to commit crime and spoil the event for everyone else taking part.

"We are committed to ensuring that all those who committed crime are brought to justice and face the consequences of their behaviour."

Anyone who recognises the men is asked to contact the police.


A news video from the day it happened. (1:08 for tiny clip of the rock throwing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sovp7cPyuSk

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Fluo posted:


A news video from the day it happened. (1:08 for tiny clip of the rock throwing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sovp7cPyuSk

@2:15, I love the quotes from the EDL spokesperson.

"You'll see Asian EDL members,
You'll see black EDL members, LGBT members,
And then normal... English... Scottish, Welsh."

Ichabod Sexbeast
Dec 5, 2011

Giving 'em the old razzle-dazzle

KayTee posted:

( there's a few people giggling at the mighty figures gathered by the Democratic Nationalist party in Stoke recently)

I've.... I've never been more proud to be a Stokie. :gbsmith:

EvilMoJoJoJo
Dec 9, 2004

ask me about leaving the cult of black metal and bringing jesus into your life

Job 19:17
Kevin Carroll: ignorant thug.



I saw a picture of him (supposedly, anyway) in a balaclava next to a burning cross floating around on twitter, but can't find it now. Anyone happen to have saved it?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

EvilMoJoJoJo posted:

Kevin Carroll: ignorant thug.



I saw a picture of him (supposedly, anyway) in a balaclava next to a burning cross floating around on twitter, but can't find it now. Anyone happen to have saved it?

"are porns in the NWO plan"

Does he mean "pawns"?This is hilarious.

duck monster
Dec 15, 2004

EvilMoJoJoJo posted:

Kevin Carroll: ignorant thug.



I saw a picture of him (supposedly, anyway) in a balaclava next to a burning cross floating around on twitter, but can't find it now. Anyone happen to have saved it?

As hilarious as his ALL CAPS WRITING is, its this sort of person I find chilling. He's not loving around here, he's stating his intention is to murder people who are not racist, when his loving revolution succeeds.

Its the exact Day of the gallows scenario from the Turner Diaries, in fact his scenario is directly lifted from it.

The man is a Neo Nazi with an openly stated mass genocide plan, whether he admits it or not.

Fabulous Knight
Nov 11, 2011
It's definitely terrifying. Breivik wrote about executing "traitors" too. This guy should be turned in or something.

Igiari
Sep 14, 2007

Kurtofan posted:

"are porns in the NWO plan"

Does he mean "pawns"?This is hilarious.

English Defense League: go for the jugglers of the NWO porns

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Ladies and Gentlemen of the thread, I present to you The Master Race.

Fabulous Knight posted:

It's definitely terrifying. Breivik wrote about executing "traitors" too. This guy should be turned in or something.

No but you see we need to concentrate resources on people making jokes about the Olympic torch relay because

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

goddamnedtwisto posted:

No but you see we need to concentrate resources on people making jokes about the Olympic torch relay because

It's possible for them both to get prosecuhahaha like gently caress will they

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Fluo posted:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-19082362


quote:

Police investigating missiles thrown during a day of marches in Bristol have released photographs of seven men they want to speak to.

'Seven men they want to speak to'? Are the police finally going to start arresting these bonehead fucks, or are they just planning to open a zoo?

Blacknose
Jul 28, 2006

Meet frustration face to face
A point of view creates more waves
So lose some sleep and say you tried
No, they actually want to speak to them. About joining.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Say what you like about their hygiene but it's good to see more bobbies on the beat(ing an immigrant)

KayTee
May 5, 2012

Whachoodoin?
EDL's non-racist anti-multicultural stance still as consistent (and hilarious) as ever...



Igiari posted:

English Defense League: go for the jugglers of the NWO porns

And treat women like chattels.

duck monster
Dec 15, 2004

"We even have muslim members" (Shows a set of mugshots of muslims next to nooses).

What a scary and ugly organization the EDL really is. It does sound though like they are tying their own noose.

Hey, it could be worse, in Australia the torys are talking about revoking parts of the equal opportunity act to make hate crimes not illegal if they are voted in. Thing is, they are getting voted in, because labor is getting crushed.

Its kinda scary, to be honest.

cleanhands
Jun 9, 2010

My opinions, though not completely awful are expressed in a tiresome and needlessly aggressive way. Please help me to chill out.
e: Wrong thread, sorry y'all.

cleanhands fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Aug 6, 2012

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

cleanhands posted:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19146805

I haven't any particular opinion but I thought you'd like to know.

We know :)

Kieselguhr Kid
May 16, 2010

WHY USE ONE WORD WHEN SIX FUCKING PARAGRAPHS WILL DO?

(If this post doesn't passive-aggressively lash out at one of the women in Auspol please send the police to do a welfare check.)

duck monster posted:

Hey, it could be worse, in Australia the torys are talking about revoking parts of the equal opportunity act to make hate crimes not illegal if they are voted in. Thing is, they are getting voted in, because labor is getting crushed.

Its kinda scary, to be honest.

This is my biggest fear: that the most visible and significant opponents of neoliberalism are racist populists. Neoliberals appropriate racist populist rhetoric, push 'nativist' policies etc. and they collude with social democracy/'third way' party to push out any racist parties. I worry less about the rise of fascism in any 20th century sense than that things will basically go on as usual except with a higher octane injection of racism in politics. I think this is basically One Nation's toxic legacy.

KayTee
May 5, 2012

Whachoodoin?
A reaction about the killings at the Sikh temple.

It's all the media's fault. If they wern't out there making people confused over how many different types of brown people there are then the killer would have correctly targeted a Mosque like he was supposed to.



Since the creation of the EDL three years ago, it has been pointed out to various members of the far right that their claim that they are "not racist because they're against Muslims and Islam isn't a race" doesn't hold water because (among other things, but most of those rest on an understanding of what racism is in the first place, which is something they remain willfully ignorant of) they have, on numerous occasions, not protested against Muslims, but turned their aggression towards anyone brown or asian (White muslims confuse the poo poo out of them. They get called "race traitors" because, you know, Islam isn't a race.)

Recently they've turned this article on it's head and claim that whenever the media uses the term "asian" they actually mean "muslim". So their ignorance is justified due to their ignorance. It's rather brilliant in a "Be so block-headedly stupid that people give up arguing with you" kind of way.

Now... correct me if I'm wrong, but the use of the term Asian is different in the states than it is in the UK. Here "Asian" can apply to anyone east of the western Russian border. Including Indians, Arabs right through to Chinese and Japanese. IIRC the American usage of the word "Asian" applies specifically to Japanese/Chinese (what the Brits might call Oriental)

Either way. Nick Griffin is a racist shitheel whose only reaction to this tragedy is that he's sorry it wasn't Muslims who were killed.

e: nvm

KayTee fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Aug 8, 2012

hexa
Dec 10, 2004

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom

For some reason I find it hilarious that Nick Griffin can't even use Twitter properly. Is he signing off with his username? Talking to himself? Who knows.

ClownSyndrome
Sep 2, 2011

Do you think love can bloom on bob-omb Battlefield?
I thought it was weird too, but it looks to be a unofficial Nick griffin twitter account that reposts stuff from his real account, for people who don't want to follow the real thing or have been blocked I guess

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

glitchkrieg posted:

For some reason I find it hilarious that Nick Griffin can't even use Twitter properly. Is he signing off with his username? Talking to himself? Who knows.

Note the different spelling of Griffen/Griffin between the account and the @tag. Not sure what that's all about but they're two seperate deals

TapTheForwardAssist
Apr 9, 2007

Pretty Little Lyres

KayTee posted:

IIRC the American usage of the word "Asian" applies specifically to Japanese/Chinese (what the Brits might call Oriental)

The term's a little wider than that, but nowhere near to what Brits use "Asian" for. For Americans, "Asian" could generally apply to most folks from Mongolia and Korea down through China and all the way to Thailand at least. Probably most Malaysians, Indonesians, and Filipinos, but not New Guineans, Maoris, Australian Aboriginals, or any of the other Oceanic peoples that don't look vaguely "Chinese-like". It probably wouldn't be too far off to say that the American concept of Asian is largely based on Chinese features, and then spread to whoever visually resembles the Chinese in American eyes.

So in vague American parlance, Bangladeshis wouldn't be seen as Asian but as "Indian". Not quite sure where the Kyrgyz and Kazakhs and the like would normall fall since we don't have a lot of them, though I have seen Tajiks referred to as Persian, and not at all "Asian".

To really stretch, I'd reckon it's because the American concept of "Asian" originated with Chinese (largely Cantonese) labourer immigration to California, whereas in the UK most folks outside the largest cities didn't deal with anyone from Asia-general much until increased Indian-Pakistani immigration in the mid-20th century.

duck monster
Dec 15, 2004

In australia it usually means south east asia, up to china and mongolia, and basically dudes that look like that. Whereas indians and pakistanis tend to be called "indians" , and middle eastern dudes are just middle eastern or "arab". Tellingly people of indian descent from malaysia etc will still be called preferentially "indian". Its a "race" term, but like most race terms , doesnt stand up to too much formal scrutiny.

People will understand you and wont be surprised or anything when you say indians are asian, but its not normally how its used here.

hexa
Dec 10, 2004

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom

ClownSyndrome posted:

I thought it was weird too, but it looks to be a unofficial Nick griffin twitter account that reposts stuff from his real account, for people who don't want to follow the real thing or have been blocked I guess

Ah, I checked the name, not the account. Now I feel like a fool :(

KayTee
May 5, 2012

Whachoodoin?
Poor, poor Gary Rogers.



What a horrid state of affairs!

He sent a letter to the council:



How is he going to live! With a woman preying upstairs! Polluting Gary's aura with her muslamicness?

Fight fire with fire, of course!



And I bet the politically correct dhimmis at the council will side with the drat Muslim too:



I bet that's exactly what'll happen. She moves in there, with her veil, all her preying and all he does is voice publicly how he can't bear to live next door to a paki, staple bacon to his door, staple a pig's head mask to her door, play Skrewdriver at max volume all day and threaten to storm in with Luton EDL. Not to mention actually being a man with (apparent) convictions for (presumably racially-aggravated) assault

...

You can't smear racial slurs in excrement on someone's house used to be an exaggerated joke. Well, here he is. Live an in the flesh and providing a prime example of a "Patriot".

Courtesy of EDL news

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008

Why do these idiots always post poo poo like this in a public forum? Its almost like they are purposefully trying to be arrested on grounds of hate crime.

Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.

Zero Gravitas posted:

Why do these idiots always post poo poo like this in a public forum? Its almost like they are purposefully trying to be arrested on grounds of hate crime.

Why do some of you have to keep repeating "are these people really as thick as pig poo poo"? Yes, they are. That's why they're racists.

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008

Ras Het posted:

Why do some of you have to keep repeating "are these people really as thick as pig poo poo"? Yes, they are. That's why they're racists.

Very insightful, thanks.

Im fascinated that they cant even draw the connection,even after bitching about it, between posting that kind of crap on facebook and then getting prosecuted for it.

KayTee
May 5, 2012

Whachoodoin?
This just in: Kevin Carroll has (according to the BFP's own counter <-BFP page link) acheived the £5,000 the needs to stand as police commissioner.

quote:

I’ve just spoken to Kevin on the phone and he is thrilled and humbled by the magnificently generous support from friends and party members everywhere. Knowing that many donations came from people on low incomes has made Kevin doubly determined to become the people’s representative for policing in Bedfordshire.

Kevin’s laptop computer is currently out of action, but hopefully by next week it will be up and running again, so that he’ll be able to talk to everyone via the new campaign Facebook page.

Once again, A HUGE THANK YOU to all those who donated so generously to the election deposit fund and who continue to give Kevin such fantastic moral support.

Kevin will be making a statement on this website during the next week or so — please stay tuned!


It should be fun to see if they follow through - I genuinely didn't expect the target to be met, and I don't think BFP did either - hence the following messae that appears (very briefly) when you click on the "donate" button (emphasis mine)

quote:

We need to raise £5,000 to stand our deputy leader, Kevin Carrol as the Police Commissioner for Bedfordshire. If the deposit target is not reached or the deposit is returned, donations will be used by British Freedom for future publicity, campaigning and election expenses.

I'd much prefer to see 5 grand flushed down the toilet on a doomed-from-the-start campaign than see it go in Paul Weston's pocket... But this is assuming that the cash hasn't gone up Tommy or Kev's nose already.

And just to show the kind of plain-speaking, honest and straight-arrow fella Uncle Kev is, and the sort of behaviour we'd be likely to see if he does make it: Here's a post from Kev himself posted on almost the first day of his campaign

quote:

just to correct you on a couple of things, i do not drink, i do not smoke and I do not take drugs



That's Kev in the middle enjoying a... owait...

Thundercloud
Mar 28, 2010

To boldly be eaten where no grot has been eaten before!
Being a far right politician, surely he has convictions for the usual (assault, harassment, inciting racial hatred, vandalism, etc) which bar him from standing?

So they'll say he is disqualified due to previous convictions (it's politicial correctness gone mad Stu! Just because I stabbed somebody for looking at me funny while being darker than beige on the dulux colour chart I can't be a police commissioner) and then spend five grand on producing leaflets about how the muslamics want to destroy Great Britain and burn the Queen in some sort of wicker man using their death rays to enslave us all.

Reveilled
Apr 19, 2007

Take up your rifles

Thundercloud posted:

Being a far right politician, surely he has convictions for the usual (assault, harassment, inciting racial hatred, vandalism, etc) which bar him from standing?

So they'll say he is disqualified due to previous convictions (it's politicial correctness gone mad Stu! Just because I stabbed somebody for looking at me funny while being darker than beige on the dulux colour chart I can't be a police commissioner) and then spend five grand on producing leaflets about how the muslamics want to destroy Great Britain and burn the Queen in some sort of wicker man using their death rays to enslave us all.

I thought I had read earlier in the thread that his only conviction was a public order offence which doesn't disqualify him because you're only disqualified if you're convited of something which you can be imprisoned for.

Thundercloud
Mar 28, 2010

To boldly be eaten where no grot has been eaten before!

Reveilled posted:

I thought I had read earlier in the thread that his only conviction was a public order offence which doesn't disqualify him because you're only disqualified if you're convited of something which you can be imprisoned for.

Wow, a far right politician only convicted of a public order offence. Standards have slipped.

Incredibly low turn out plus most candidates being career politicians disgraced during the expenses scandal and too lazy to get on a train to London anymore could give us our first openly fascist arsehole in charge of a police force.

Rude Dude With Tude
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.
The EDL support a ban on christianity

Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.


here's an EDL supporter angry at his wife for buying ritually slaughtered cornflakes:

http://twitpic.com/9ifjwg

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ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Lamuella posted:

here's an EDL supporter angry at his wife for buying ritually slaughtered cornflakes:

http://twitpic.com/9ifjwg

Aren't some of those symbols kosher certification? I thought the EDL were down with the jews :confused:

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