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Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

FreelanceSocialist posted:

I may have drank a Bud Platinum today. I just want to say that AB has finally done it. They have finally developed the technology to suck the soul out of a beer before selling it to you. Platinum was slightly malty. Slightly sweet. Slightly hoppy. It was so "slightly" in every category that when I had finished it, my brain was incapable of forming an opinion. No thoughts were forming as I drank it. It is what beer would be if humans had no emotion, no dreams, no desires. It is beer that is wholly unremarkable. Unmemorable. It is what people in George Orwell's 1984 would have drank. It is what Andy Warhol would have painted instead of that Campbell soup can. It is the pinnacle of American Pale Lager.

That said, both my dog and me enjoyed it while mowing the lawn.
:frogout:

Perfectly Cromulent posted:

I'm a bit surprised to hear this. The beer has a spicy rye malt character for me.
Which is weird because I was actively looking for some particular malt character in it. I don't know, I tend to think that Stone's beers that are hoppier than the base IPA have a fairly harsh bitterness that overpowers the beer's positive aspects.

danbanana posted:

Ah. Yeah, when you said hot, I thought you meant boozy. Hence the "wait til you try the BA'd version!"

I wish I could. Still no Founders on the regular in California. They did say it was in the works, but they could be any time from now until 2015. I've noticed when we pull midwest and East Coast breweries in, they tend to not send us the rare or even less common stuff, like with Goose Island where I never see anything but Matilida and Pepe Nero.

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Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

Kansas City Irish Fest this weekend. I think I know where I'll be...

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.
When I got my Backwoods Bastard it was as I was just learning about Founders, thanks to this thread. I kind of blindly bought their stuff and happened to see Backwoods and figured why not? It didn't seem to be too sought after though as it was on the shelf at my usual place and they usually put the hard to get quick moving beers in the back for the usuals.

Perfectly Cromulent posted:

I'm a bit surprised to hear this. The beer has a spicy rye malt character for me.

Yeah I thought the mid-taste had a nice rye presence.

Rags to Liches
Mar 11, 2008

future skeleton soldier


First time trying Red Hoptober, but I've heard some good things about it.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.
Firestone Walker is working on their XVI beer, here's a picture where you can kind of make out what's going into it:

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

Aubergine Mage posted:

First time trying Red Hoptober, but I've heard some good things about it.

As the resident New Belgium fanboy I will shock noone by saying I'm really enjoying it. It's hot as balls in Colorado so I'm still in summer beer mode but there's some caramel and slight roast in the finish that I think will play real nice with cooler fall evenings when they finally get here.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Aubergine Mage posted:

First time trying Red Hoptober, but I've heard some good things about it.

Drinking my first one right now too, courtesy of the new distribution and $2.85 bombers. Good but I enjoyed the Ranger better I think. Still got a couple days left to take advantage of that price though so maybe I'll grab more.

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽
Ended up picking up the La Fin Du Monde today. I enjoy it, but don't think that I could drink more then one. It's really sweet.

Might pick up some Pumpking tomorrow. I know that most of you seem to hate pumpkin beers but I've never tried one, and I do love pumpkin pie. All reviews say it tastes just like it, which seems awesome to me.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Harminoff posted:

Ended up picking up the La Fin Du Monde today. I enjoy it, but don't think that I could drink more then one. It's really sweet.

Might pick up some Pumpking tomorrow.
I know that most of you seem to hate pumpkin beers but I've never tried one, and I do love pumpkin pie. All reviews say it tastes just like it, which seems awesome to me.

have you had a Southern Tier beer before?

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

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No, but I am able to get pretty much all of them around here and they all sound good .I'm a big coffee fan so javha and mokah are on my list to try. Are they all really sweet? I'd figure a pumpkin beer would be more spicy then sweet.

Maybe it's because this bottle was from July 8 2011 but I found it a hard to finish. I'm a huge ipa fan though and haven't really tried much else so my Palate might not be used to it yet.

Harminoff fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Aug 31, 2012

Mons Public
Jun 22, 2006

Sometimes I look for Rupees.

Harminoff posted:

No, but I am able to get pretty much all of them around here and they all sound good .I'm a big coffee fan so javha and mokah are on my list to try. Are they all really sweet? I'd figure a pumpkin beer would be more spicy then sweet.

save your money, there are better/cheaper coffee stouts that don't give you diabetes

consensual poster
Sep 1, 2009

Angry Grimace posted:

Which is weird because I was actively looking for some particular malt character in it. I don't know, I tend to think that Stone's beers that are hoppier than the base IPA have a fairly harsh bitterness that overpowers the beer's positive aspects.

I bet you are pretty sensitive to the lemon verbena and lemon oil in the Stone 16th Anniversary. For me, the lemony flavors were mostly in the background, adding some bitter herbal and lemon flavors, but not overpowering the rye malt or the tropical hops. The hops in particular were surprisingly sweet and mellow for a Stone DIPA. Sounds like the lemon just overpowered everything else for you.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Harminoff posted:

No, but I am able to get pretty much all of them around here and they all sound good .I'm a big coffee fan so javha and mokah are on my list to try. Are they all really sweet? I'd figure a pumpkin beer would be more spicy then sweet.

Maybe it's because this bottle was from July 8 2011 but I found it a hard to finish. I'm a huge ipa fan though and haven't really tried much else so my Palate might not be used to it yet.

Do yourself a favour and drink Founders Breakfast Stout instead of any Southern Tier stout. This describes Southern Tier in a nutshell: http://thefullpint.com/trouble-brewing/trouble-brewing-creme-brulee/

I just realized that my absolute favourite fall seasonal, Great Lakes Nosferatu, is coming out in the next month or so. I'm excited. Too excited.

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽

crazyfish posted:

Do yourself a favour and drink Founders Breakfast Stout instead of any Southern Tier stout. This describes Southern Tier in a nutshell: http://thefullpint.com/trouble-brewing/trouble-brewing-creme-brulee/


I've had founders breakfast stout, but it was 6+ months old. It was good but lacked coffee flavor at that point and was all mault. Unfortunately this is the case with any micro brews in my area. I'm lucky to find anything that is less than 3 months old. I'm in Southern Wisconsin for reference.

I thought Southern Tier is known for having some top brews though? Is that not the case?

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.
I like Southern Tier's stouts for what they are. Try them and if you like them then don't worry about the opinion's of others.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Midorka posted:

I like Southern Tier's stouts for what they are. Try them and if you like them then don't worry about the opinion's of others.

They're fine if you've got people there to share the bottle. They're perfectly fine for what they are, just know that they're (in general) insanely sweet.

Wamsutta
Sep 9, 2001

Now that the season's upon us, I am looking forward to my favorite Oktoberfests. In order, Berkshire Brewing Co Oktoberfest and Victory Festbier. Mmmhm, marzens.

Manky
Mar 20, 2007


Fun Shoe

crazyfish posted:

They're fine if you've got people there to share the bottle. They're perfectly fine for what they are, just know that they're (in general) insanely sweet.

Yeah. I've had their Choklat, Creme Brulee, and Pumking on tap. I thought they were all very good, and they nail what they're going for, but they are absolute sugar bombs. I would take 3oz of ST's Creme Brulee over a real creme brulee, but a 6oz glass of it actually becomes painful to finish.

Choklat was on a nitro tap, and to this day I've never seen a beer that could accurately be described as oozing from the tap. It was the most chocolatey beer I've had by a factor of about a billion, though.

cryme
Apr 9, 2004

by zen death robot
Pumking is a loving aberration. It tastes like creamed corn.

Retemnav
Mar 20, 2007
Then I'd certainly be a damned fool to feel any other way, wouldn't I?

Manky posted:

Choklat was on a nitro tap, and to this day I've never seen a beer that could accurately be described as oozing from the tap. It was the most chocolatey beer I've had by a factor of about a billion, though.

Choklat is like drinking a glass of melted M&M's.

Polygynous
Dec 13, 2006
welp
I guess Southern Tier is in the "try it once" category for me. Though I've had Choklat a couple times and would probably get it again if I could justify spending $10 on a bomber that wouldn't be better spent on something else.

(Yeah, I've got a Pumking in the fridge.)

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

Moving to central Oregon next week :woop:

Made my GABF plane/hotel plans earlier :woop: :woop:

Have too much work right now to celebrate :smith:

SUPER HASSLER fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Aug 31, 2012

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

cryme posted:

Pumking is a loving aberration. It tastes like creamed corn.

That's so weird, I didn't get that at all. It just tasted like a solid pumpkin beer and, given Southern Tier's track record, pretty light on the sweetness.

It's definitely not the best pumpkin beer out there though. Just my opinion, but that honor goes to Harpoon UFO Pumpkin. Pumking has a really insubstantial mouthfeel and didn't balance the spice and pumpkin out effectively; whereas UFO is juuuuust thick & sweet enough (thickness: barely shy of a stout, sweetness: a nip at the inset) with fresh pumpkin taste-to-spice ratio.

cryme
Apr 9, 2004

by zen death robot

mysterious frankie posted:

That's so weird, I didn't get that at all.

As I understand it, I'm one of a subset of people who gets that flavor out of Pumking (sort of like some people thinking cilantro tastes like soap). It's loving disgusting. I couldn't handle more than a sip, and I've had a sample from both bottle and tap.

cryme fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Aug 31, 2012

Wamsutta
Sep 9, 2001

Pumking is the only big Southern Tier beer I've drank more than once. I really enjoy it. The other ones were interesting, but simply impossible to finish solo, and challenging to split with two friends.

icehewk
Jul 7, 2003

Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!

Harminoff posted:

I've had founders breakfast stout, but it was 6+ months old. It was good but lacked coffee flavor at that point and was all mault. Unfortunately this is the case with any micro brews in my area. I'm lucky to find anything that is less than 3 months old. I'm in Southern Wisconsin for reference.

Since you're in Wisconsin, see if you can find any of Central Waters' coffee beers. Their main one is Peruvian Morning but there have been a few special barrel aged releases. The end of August is a bad time to be searching for fresh seasonal coffee beers. If you haven't had Ale Asylum's Contorter Porter, give that a shot as well. It's more chocolatey than coffee but if you get it fresh it should have both and since it's a year-round release, you may have better luck.

New Glarus hasn't announced their winter releases yet, so their Coffee Stout may be on it. Definitely worth finding since they popularized the style (source).

icehewk fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Aug 31, 2012

Mikey Purp
Sep 30, 2008

I realized it's gotten out of control. I realize I'm out of control.
Fellow Beer Goons, I'm heading to Brussels next weekend and although I will absolutely set foot in the Delirium Tremens Bar for tourist giggles, I remember a while back someone made some very good recommendations for places that they preferred more than Delirium. Could you guys refresh my memory on where I should be going?

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Mikey Purp posted:

Fellow Beer Goons, I'm heading to Brussels next weekend and although I will absolutely set foot in the Delirium Tremens Bar for tourist giggles, I remember a while back someone made some very good recommendations for places that they preferred more than Delirium. Could you guys refresh my memory on where I should be going?

I haven't been to Brussels, but if you're into lambics, you need to visit Cantillon.

b c n u
May 9, 2004

"We've got rectal bleeding." "What, all of you?"

ChiTownEddie posted:

Cool. I have most of the day tomorrow before my friends arrive to do stuff, might as well drink some beers :)
People's is new (I learned about it from another former student who stuck around in West Laf) and I believe it was started by the old brewer at LBC. Man, I wish I had been into craft beer when I was actually at Purdue hehe the scene seems pretty decent.

Definitely stop at People's. Their beer is WAY better than brewco.

dumptruckzzz
Sep 13, 2010

Mikey Purp posted:

Fellow Beer Goons, I'm heading to Brussels next weekend and although I will absolutely set foot in the Delirium Tremens Bar for tourist giggles, I remember a while back someone made some very good recommendations for places that they preferred more than Delirium. Could you guys refresh my memory on where I should be going?

I think that was the last thread because I'm pretty sure I asked about it, I don't remember what anyone said though. The Delirium cafe was just packed, we went up to the top floor though once we had our beers and it was much more relaxed. In the end we just found a bottle shop down the road from the cafe and each of us bought different 750s each night and then got hammered like real Americans.

Polygynous
Dec 13, 2006
welp
Ok, Pumking is kind of bad. Not as sweet as I expected/feared, but it doesn't taste anything like any pumpkin pie I've ever had. Way too heavy on the... nutmeg or something.

deong
Jun 13, 2001

I'll see you in heck!
Does pumking make it to Co? With how much I keep seeing it mentioned, I want to give it a taste. :spooky:

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

deong posted:

Does pumking make it to Co? With how much I keep seeing it mentioned, I want to give it a taste. :spooky:

I've never seen it here. I've been looking just cause it seems like one of those beers that's very polarizing and comes up a lot; I'd like to try it for :science: Also my wife really likes pumpkin beers.

7 Bowls of Wrath
Mar 30, 2007
Thats so metal.
Had some great local -y brews this week in DC, notable two:

The Farmer's Cabinet Marry Me In Goslar- salty, superbly sour and refreshing, finish was doughy, perfect with pizza

Embers of the Deceased - DC brau made this apparently after some extinct beer style in Poland, a very light smoked ale that was just absolutely delicious, lightly Smokey, low abv, unique as hell, too bad its a limited release

Anyone else had these recently? I want to get over to DCbrau tomorrow to fill a Growler but my wife has mandated a family trip to PA...opposite direction :shakefist:. Someone want to get me a Growler this weekend?

e: pumpkin beer discussion and contribution: I am a big fan of the simplicity and drinkability of Post Road (Brooklyn brewing??? ) compared to some of these heavier syrupy imperials

7 Bowls of Wrath fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Sep 1, 2012

SnowDog
Oct 26, 2004
All this talk about Southern Tier reminds me that once we finish Fall, we get to enjoy the Winter brews, and I can't get enough of Southern Tier's Old Man Winter. But, let's get to fall first. Gotta try and find some more Octoberfest brews. I can't say no to Sam Adams October when it's on tap, but I need to branch out and find some other ones in bottles (someone mentioned Berkshire -- they are impressing me more and more with each beer of theirs I try. I'll be looking...)

I was on vacation this past week up in Maine, and ended up at a little shop with a few hundred brews on the shelves, all available as singles. I was only there two nights, otherwise I would have had trouble stopping.

Tried Peak Organic's Fall Summit Ale, and loved it. I'll be buying a six of this ASAP. For a fall ale, it had a really strong hop taste, and something about the way the flavors came together really hit me in a good place. I wish I knew enough about my palate to explain why, but this one stuck with me for days afterward.

Also tried Atlantic Brewing Company's Coal Porter. Very rich porter, no complaints, but nothing about it stuck with me. Perfectly fine for what it was, but I'm not rushing to buy more.

Last but not least, Harpoon's 100 Barrel Series White IPA. Delicious -- everything I like about two great beer styles. An awesome way to say goodbye to summer. I'm glad I got to try this while it was out.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Just had Stone 16th on tap. Everyone was saying this was some huge lemon bomb, but I didn't get that at all (at least not a very strong lemon flavour). Wasn't a huge fan of it either way.

consensual poster
Sep 1, 2009

Fresh hop season has started! :dance:

Saw the first two fresh hop beers of the year today at the Deschutes Portland Brewpub. Seems earlier than in past years.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.
I love Pumpking, but I have a more pressing matter, I came upon another bottle of 3 Fonteinen Schaerbeekse Kriek and was wondering if anyone knew the trade value for it. Is it considered rare or does it usually go $4$?

Edit: Back on Southern Tier, I love their Harvest Ale. I know it's not a harvest ale like you guys are talking about above, but I love it.

Edit 2: I'm drinking a Weyerbacher Insanity now, which is their bourbon barrel aged barleywine. I'm hugely impressed by this given my track record with Weyerbacher, their beers tend to have a noticeable alcohol on the finish which makes them unenjoyable for me. Insanity is 11% and has no hints of alcohol at all. The intro is dark fruits with caramel, that leads to toffee, vanilla, and mild oak mid-taste, that leads to a strong dark fruits, mild oak, and toffee finish that's super smooth, no alcohol. I don't pick up any bourbon here though.

Midorka fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Sep 1, 2012

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Midorka posted:

I love Pumpking, but I have a more pressing matter, I came upon another bottle of 3 Fonteinen Schaerbeekse Kriek and was wondering if anyone knew the trade value for it. Is it considered rare or does it usually go $4$?

Edit: Back on Southern Tier, I love their Harvest Ale. I know it's not a harvest ale like you guys are talking about above, but I love it.

Not rare, mostly due to the price. There's a few stores where I could walk in and grab it off the shelf right now.

I had the regular 3F kriek and the schaerbeeske side by side a while ago, and it's not worth the extra money. Great beer, but just not worth the $40 price tag.

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Valencia
Feb 1, 2005

Cyril, go lock up the product before Cokie Monster here gobbles it all up.

:catdrugs:
Went to a random little burger joint in Durham last night and had a pint of Peak Organic King Crimson imperial red. Didn't really like it much at all- it smelled like an open container of malt vinegar and had a really corrosive, bitter aftertaste. I probably should have asked for a sample first because it was the first beer in a while that I almost couldn't finish a full glass of.

However, this same place also had Sculpin :aaa: I was under the impression that we couldn't get that this far east. The waiter said they had only had it for a week or so, and a friend of mine in Myrtle Beach said her Mellow Mushroom just had it on tap recently so maybe that's a new development. Of course I ordered it, greatly enjoyed the citrusy/grassy notes on the front but noticed that the finish just kinda...fell flat. It wasn't bad by any means, just not quite as earth-shattering as I had internally hyped it up for myself :v: If I ever see it on draft around here I'll be sure to try it though for comparison purposes.

Also cracked the La Roja last night after saving it to split with a friend for his birthday. We both liked it but preferred the Oro de Calabaza better. Still was a great experience getting to try those :)

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