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gently caress aggy an important thing to know for all college football rookies
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Sep 9, 2012 00:06
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You're off your rocker mon frere
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Sep 9, 2012 01:56
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Rap posted:You're off your rocker mon frere Ignore him. Hes been drinking. He doesn't ean any of it.
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Sep 9, 2012 02:55
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Chichevache posted:Ignore him. Hes been drinking. He doesn't ean any of it. Every gently caress aggy from Donut is from the bottom of his heart. Mine too gently caress aggy
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Sep 9, 2012 03:17
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I'm pretty sure he passed out.
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Sep 9, 2012 05:24
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Watching Jacksonville/Minnesota today reminds me to ask this question: Can somebody help explain to me why the hell the NFL initiated the new, convoluted-as-hell overtime system? Is there a method to the madness? It's like "instead of doing a 15 minute quarter like we have for years or college-style 'everybody gets a possession and we go 'til somebody wins', let's have a hybrid where each team possesses the ball unless a TD or safety is scored on the first drive, at which point the second team doesn't even get it". I guess I could like it more if I could go "Oh, OK, that makes sense".
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Sep 9, 2012 21:07
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CBJSprague24 posted:Watching Jacksonville/Minnesota today reminds me to ask this question: Can somebody help explain to me why the hell the NFL initiated the new, convoluted-as-hell overtime system? Is there a method to the madness? Because one time Peyton Manning lost a playoff game in OT without touching the ball, basically
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Sep 9, 2012 21:12
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You can't win on a field goal if the other team hasn't touched the ball. Some people were getting upset because they felt like games were being decided on a coin toss because you only have to go like 30 yards. That's it. You are entitled to think it's stupid.
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Sep 9, 2012 21:15
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SteelAngel2000 posted:Because one time Peyton Manning lost a playoff game in OT without touching the ball, basically You mean Brett Favre 
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Sep 9, 2012 21:16
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College Style OT is the best, but barring that they should drop the whole weird rules about a FG vs. a TD in the opening possession. They just say that each team is guaranteed a possession. After both teams have had the ball, and its still tied, it becomes sudden death.
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Sep 9, 2012 21:42
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How about 2 guaranteed 5-minute halves, followed by penalty kicks if it's still tied. Of course, each player only gets to take one kick in the shootout.
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Sep 10, 2012 00:53
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Chilly McFreeze posted:How about 2 guaranteed 5-minute halves, followed by penalty kicks if it's still tied. Of course, each player only gets to take one kick in the shootout. How about a full quarter of football.
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Sep 10, 2012 01:00
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They should just reset the score and play again
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Sep 10, 2012 03:04
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I'm noticing a lot more mouthguards flying out everywhere than ever before. Is there a reason for this or am I just imagining it?
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Sep 10, 2012 03:16
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wrongggg thread
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Sep 10, 2012 04:22
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Uncle Jam posted:I'm noticing a lot more mouthguards flying out everywhere than ever before. Is there a reason for this or am I just imagining it?
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Sep 10, 2012 06:36
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Why isn't spiking the ball intentional grounding? It's the textbook definition of intentional grounding.
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Sep 10, 2012 06:44
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SteelAngel2000 posted:Why isn't spiking the ball intentional grounding? It's the textbook definition of intentional grounding. You should probably take this one to the rules thread, but I think it is a specialized play that they allow because it adds to the game. Or do you mean spiking like when Gronk scores a touchdown?
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Sep 10, 2012 06:48
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SteelAngel2000 posted:Why isn't spiking the ball intentional grounding? It's the textbook definition of intentional grounding. It has a special exemption in the rulebook.
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Sep 10, 2012 06:54
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Chichevache posted:You should probably take this one to the rules thread, but I think it is a specialized play that they allow because it adds to the game. The latter kind of spike is an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty thanks to Mr. Goodell.
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Sep 10, 2012 09:03
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What are the basic differences between offsides, neutral zone infractions and encroachment? I've been watching football for years and understand what it is to go offsides and all, but I'm not keen enough to differentiate the three.
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Sep 10, 2012 09:44
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shyguy posted:What are the basic differences between offsides, neutral zone infractions and encroachment? I've been watching football for years and understand what it is to go offsides and all, but I'm not keen enough to differentiate the three. There is one called "unabated to the quarterback", and "delay of game on the defense" as well. My understanding is neutral zone infraction is extremely close to if not identical to offsides and it's if a defensive player is lined up in such a way that he is standing over where the ball is snapped, or if a dlineman jumped past the neutral zoned and doesn't get back before the ball is snapped. Blitzing linebackers also do this when they improperly react to the snap count and over commit across the line. Delay of Game on the Defense is if they jerk or make a move intended to draw the other team into committing a false start. Unabated to the quarterback is if a player charges across the line and is aiming for the quarterback before the ball is snapped sort of if the blitzing linebacker mentioned before keeps going instead of stopping. Finally Encroachment is when a defensive player makes actual physical contact with an offensive player before the ball is snapped. If you want to try these out in simulation if you play madden if you run all the way across the line of scrimmage and stand below the quarterback, when the ball is snapped you'll get an offsides penalty but if you touch another player on the way the you get immediately flagged for encroachment. Edit: another main difference is I'm pretty sure encroachment,unabated, and delay blows the play dead immediately, and offsides results in the "free play" where the quarterback can risk throwing a deep ball that gets intercepted because the offsides will always result in the 5 yard penalty. pasaluki fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Sep 10, 2012 |
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Sep 10, 2012 10:02
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shyguy posted:What are the basic differences between offsides, neutral zone infractions and encroachment? I've been watching football for years and understand what it is to go offsides and all, but I'm not keen enough to differentiate the three. Someone asked this a while ago, so I wrote it up last year in my rules thread about the difference between the three phrases depending on whether you're on Friday, Saturday or Sunday (any rules questions are welcome in there, no matter how elementary). quote:I'll repost, with the addition that "unabated to the quarterback" means you've gone right through the neutral zone prior to the snap and have an unimpeded, full-speed full-intensity path to wallop the QB if the play actually goes off; it's very unlikely that the offense will be able to get anything from the play and very likely that the QB's going to take a huge hit, so we shut the play down before that happens and just give them the yards.
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Sep 10, 2012 12:06
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Trin Tragula posted:Offsides rules So is it correct that defenders are allowed to draw the offense into a false start by acting as though they are about to jump as long as the defender never crosses into the neutral zone?
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Sep 10, 2012 17:03
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So because of a friend who lives in Michigan, I've now found myself following MSU and the Lions. I just read about the 2008 Lions, which to me is extremely funny. Also there's a dude called the Megatron which also rules? I think I understand most of the basics but are passing yards the distance the ball's thrown, plus the distance the receiver runs with it?
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Sep 10, 2012 17:25
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Nuclear Spoon posted:So because of a friend who lives in Michigan, I've now found myself following MSU and the Lions. I just read about the 2008 Lions, which to me is extremely funny. Also there's a dude called the Megatron which also rules? Probably the easiest way to explain passing yards is "yards gained from scrimmage on passing plays." So yeah, distance through the air plus distance receiver goes. Where it gets confusing: Sacks are subtracted from a team's passing yards but not from a quarterback's passing yards in the NFL. Whereas in college football sacks are considered negative rushing yards both for the quarterback and team rushing stats (at least this is the way it used to be, someone correct me if the NCAA has changed this). e: poo poo now I'm not sure I'm right on the individual side in the NFL--someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong.
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Sep 10, 2012 17:28
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DrKennethNoisewater posted:So is it correct that defenders are allowed to draw the offense into a false start by acting as though they are about to jump as long as the defender never crosses into the neutral zone? Yeah, if a jump sideways that doesn't infringe the neutral zone makes an offensive lineman flinch, it's a false start.
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Sep 10, 2012 18:09
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Grittybeard posted:Probably the easiest way to explain passing yards is "yards gained from scrimmage on passing plays." So yeah, distance through the air plus distance receiver goes. All of this information is correct. Also worth mentioning is that the NFL tracks yards after catch (YAC) to give credit to receivers doing all the hard work after the lazy quarterback throws a swing pass.
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Sep 10, 2012 18:09
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Declan MacManus posted:All of this information is correct. Also worth mentioning is that the NFL tracks yards after catch (YAC) to give credit to receivers doing all the hard work after the lazy quarterback throws a swing pass. Ah, that's neat. I can't actually find any YAC stats on nfl.com though, and everything here is zero? http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/receiving/sort/receivingYardsAfterCatch
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Sep 10, 2012 18:32
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Nuclear Spoon posted:Ah, that's neat. I can't actually find any YAC stats on nfl.com though, and everything here is zero? http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/receiving/sort/receivingYardsAfterCatch That's a bit strange. YAC is something that you track from game footage, though, so it's possible they haven't tracked it yet.
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Sep 10, 2012 18:36
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Declan MacManus posted:All of this information is correct. Also worth mentioning is that the NFL tracks yards after catch (YAC) to give credit to receivers doing all the hard work after the lazy quarterback throws a swing pass. This is about a college football game, but here's a really nice look at how this is important to remember.
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Sep 10, 2012 18:56
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DrKennethNoisewater posted:So is it correct that defenders are allowed to draw the offense into a false start by acting as though they are about to jump as long as the defender never crosses into the neutral zone? No. There is a specific rule about coming right up and doing something that's deliberately designed to make them jump. Of course, before you call this you have to be absolutely sure that it's egregious enough that the defender can't reasonably* argue "But I was just trying to time my blitz and they didn't snap it!", so the safest thing to do is just tell him to knock it off, and 99% of defenders will only do it until they're told to stop. NFL 4-6-5-d: quote:Other examples of action or inaction that are to be construed as delay of the game include, but are not limited to, the following: NCAA 7-1-5: quote:The defensive team requirements are as follows: *He'll try to argue this anyway, no matter how obvious it was that he was trying to cheat...
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Sep 10, 2012 19:49
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Nuclear Spoon posted:So because of a friend who lives in Michigan, I've now found myself following MSU and the Lions. I just read about the 2008 Lions, which to me is extremely funny. Also there's a dude called the Megatron which also rules? You picked a good time to start following because both those teams started getting good right after their 2008 seasons!
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Sep 10, 2012 23:48
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Maybe I just don't remember, but was Tagliabue a better commissioner than Goodell? I don't remember there being as much talk about him being a piece of poo poo like people say about Goodell. In fact, I don't remember people talking about him much at all.
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Sep 11, 2012 07:09
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Cole posted:Maybe I just don't remember, but was Tagliabue a better commissioner than Goodell? I don't remember there being as much talk about him being a piece of poo poo like people say about Goodell. In fact, I don't remember people talking about him much at all. I don't know if he was better for the League or not, but Tagliabue was willing to compromise and work with the NFLPA in order to make sure both sides got things they really wanted in negotiations.
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Sep 11, 2012 13:19
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Where do you guys get your cheap Chinese sweatshop knockoff jerseys nowadays?
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Sep 11, 2012 23:58
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Hey stupid question because I am really  as to why the Bolts punted last night.There's 2 seconds left, and 4th down. The Chargers were up, and elected to punt. The question I have is: Can a game end on a turnover on downs if said turnover is by the leading team? Obviously we have all seen games end on ToD when it's the team that was down. I mean, I understand it could just be that the Chargers felt that it was far less risky to just punt the ball than run a 2 second kneel down, but .
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Sep 12, 2012 02:12
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I started watching the NFL when Flutie left the CFL. I was pretty young at the time, but as I recall in Flutie's second season he led the Bills to the playoffs, and was given the last game of the year off to rest. Rob Johson played well in week 17 and was given the playoff start. I understand there was a qb controversy between the 2 of them for much of the 2 years leading up to that, but why would you switch your starter right before the playoffs? Was it that Rob had "The Look", or is that only a basketball thing?
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Sep 12, 2012 06:32
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Carwash oval office posted:I started watching the NFL when Flutie left the CFL. I was pretty young at the time, but as I recall in Flutie's second season he led the Bills to the playoffs, and was given the last game of the year off to rest. Rob Johson played well in week 17 and was given the playoff start. Rob Johnson was the original starter and Flutie came in to replace him; Flutie proceeded to win a lot of games (in 1998). Next season (1999) was an open competition, and Flutie won, but Rob Johnson looked really good against a lovely Colts defense when Flutie was resting, so Wade Phillips decided to start him in the playoffs. The moral of this story is that Wade Phillips is a defensive coach.
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Sep 12, 2012 06:36
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JetsGuy posted:Can a game end on a turnover on downs if said turnover is by the leading team? Obviously we have all seen games end on ToD when it's the team that was down. I guess I'm sort of curious about this too. My original reaction both when watching the game and afterwards was that they should have snapped the ball and wasted a couple of seconds, barring that snapped to the punter and have him waste a couple of seconds. I couldn't understand why you'd actually go through with kicking it.
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Sep 12, 2012 06:48
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