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Grinnblade posted:Hey Smasher. Basically this.
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Also, was Kevin Brown a fluke in terms of injury (given his age)?
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Sep 10, 2012 03:57
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Senerio Actually, your team isn't in bad shape, other than the fact that you traded all of your picks. So, that's kind of an issue because you do need another starting pitcher or two. Your hitting is fine, actually. Crandall and Floyd aren't exactly optimal, but they're only starting because of injuries to Piazza and Bonilla anyway. Moose Kevin Brown was always pretty durable, especially in his younger career. He pitcher 12 complete games in 1993, so I'd lean heavily to it being a fluke.
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Sep 10, 2012 04:34
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Expansion Cup: September                                                                                                                                         Playoffs: TLCS: Barrow Daydreamers v. Polyarny Postmodernists, Games 1, 2, 6, 7 @ Barrow MLCS: Vice City Goose Eggs v. Rlyeh Cultists, Games 1, 2, 6, 7 @ Rlyeh Injury Report: VIC Ken Williams, LF, Out for Playoffs, Ankle Ligament RLY Curt Schilling, SP, Out until Cup Finals, Shoulder Separation BAR Mike Stanton, SP, Out for Playoffs POL Mike Marshall, RP, Out for Playoffs
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Sep 10, 2012 06:10
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Cultists, Postmodernists, Daydreamers, and Goose Eggs, please submit any playoff changes ASAP. e: Quick reminder, playoff pitching rotations are shortened to four starters and a mopup man. tatankatonk fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Sep 10, 2012 |
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Sep 10, 2012 06:14
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gently caress you Curt Schilling, gently caress you. Rotation and Bullpen Changes 1st: Walter Johnson 2nd: Christy Mathewson 3rd: Eddie Cicotte  4th: Ray Collins except bigger. Mopup: Park the injured Curt Schilling here. As soon as he recovers, swap him with Ray Collins. CL: Soria ST: Phil Coke SR: Tom Henke SR: Dave Righetti MR: Shigetoshi LR: Kim Byung-Hyung CANCEL ALL PERSONAL CATCHER ORDERS Gabby catches everyone. Lineup Changes Move Sandberg to 3B and put Hornsby at 2B. Slider Changes Put start on short rest to +3 Cthulhu Dreams fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Sep 10, 2012 |
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Sep 10, 2012 06:29
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Okay, I know some of you have traded your picks, but I don't feel like digging through the posts for those trades, so just let me know now which, if any, pick you think you traded for. Anyway, here's the draft order: Round 1 1. Idaho Potatoes 2. Philadelphia Longshots 3. Antarctic Unspecifieds 4. Poughkeepsie Superbas 5. Leprechauns 6. Hakata Runnin' Ramen 7. Oxbridge Mathematicians 8. Norfolk Spinter Cells (vacated) 9. Second City Saints 10. Great Googly Mooglies 11. Madison Mudholes 12. Ted Sox 13. St. Paul Bearers 14. Portland Bulldogs 15. Ryleh Cultists (from Vice City Goose Eggs) 16. Lombard Street Gumshoes 17. Rated R Superstars 18. Ryleh Cultists 19. Polyarny Postmodernists 20. Barrow Daydreamers Round 2 21. Idaho Potatoes 22. Philadelphia Longshots 23. Antarctic Unspecifieds 24. Poughkeepsie Superbas 25. Leprechauns 26. Hakata Runnin' Ramen 27. Oxbridge Mathematicians 28. Norfolk Spinter Cells (vacated) 29. South Bolton Eazy W's (from Second City Saints via Great Googly-Mooglies) 30. Great Googly Mooglies 31. Madison Mudholes 32. Ted Sox 33. St. Paul Bearers 34. Portland Bulldogs (vacated) 35. Vice City Goose Eggs 36. Lombard Street Gumshoes 37. Rated R Superstars 38. Ryleh Cultists 39. Polyarny Postmodernists 40. Fukuoka Finger-Bangers (from Barrow Daydreamers) Round 3 41. Idaho Potatoes 42. Philadelphia Longshots 43. Antarctic Unspecifieds 44. Poughkeepsie Superbas 45. Leprechauns 46. Hakata Runnin' Ramen 47. Oxbridge Mathematicians 48. Norfolk Spinter Cells (vacated) 49. Second City Saints 50. Great Googly Mooglies 51. Madison Mudholes 52. Ted Sox 53. St. Paul Bearers 54. Portland Bulldogs 55. Vice City Goose Eggs 56. Lombard Street Gumshoes 57. Rated R Superstars 58. Ryleh Cultists 59. Polyarny Postmodernists 60. Barrow Daydreamers You have a week to get me your draft preferences before I destroy your team! Smasher Dynamo fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Sep 10, 2012 |
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Sep 10, 2012 07:18
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Smasher, the Cultists have the Goose Eggs 1st round pick A question: With the EC cup, is the prize awarded in addition to, or instead of, your first round pick? I wrote a long, complex post with strategies, but it's pretty pointless. Basically out the back of the EC Cup and draft I need, in approximate order of priority: A good starting pitcher so I can fire ray collins out of a cannon Schmidt or Ron Santo - if Ron will fall to my 2nd round pick (or a sandwhich pick if I happen to get one), get him then instead obviously A good backup catcher who will make a real difference over rob Barajas Bullpen guys times lots A LF guy who will make an impact. The things that might impact that: If I get to the cup I'm gonna take Randy Johnson, Juan Marchial or Willie Mays. If I get one of the two pitchers, I don't need another starter, and if I get Willie Mays, I don't need a left fielder. If I get the sandwich pick, it means I want to pick up a backup catcher in the 1st round. With the bullpen thing, if a great LF (I'm thinking Chuck Klein or better to complete the cubification of the cultists) falls to my 2nd round pick grab them, but otherwise let it ride. Cthulhu Dreams fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Sep 10, 2012 |
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Sep 10, 2012 07:38
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Vice City Goose Eggs We made it! Holy poop! Effort post later! In the meantime, in case the first round goes out while I'm at work: Rotation should be: #1 Jim Bunning #2 Urban Shocker #3 Doug Fister #4 Frank Tanana Mopup: Dave Stieb Switch Ubaldo Jimenez with Rick Honeycutt in the bullpen. Draft preferences: 2nd round - 2nd baseman 3rd round - best pitcher available Armitage fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Sep 11, 2012 |
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Sep 10, 2012 10:09
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Barrow Daydreamers Smasher, the Bangers have my second round pick. 22-4? Against the hardest month in my schedule? Sweeps against the two best teams in my subleague? Yeah, I can definitely say I didn't see this coming. Call up Klesko for the injured Stanton. Playoff pitching: SP1: Greg Maddux SP2: John Smoltz SP3: Tom Glavine SP4: Fergie Jenkins MU: Steve Avery CL: Jim Kern SU: Keith Foulke SR: Mike Wohlers MR: Greg McMichael MR: Ed Farmer LR: Dazzy Vance Lineup stays as it is, because, well, why change something that's just done that? Only exception: If I have López as a personal catcher (I can't remember), then make him stop doing that. I want Sundberg behind the plate for all games this series. Also, make my cut-off throws slider +3 for this series only. Edit: VVV You're right. Pitchouts to +3 as well, please. Ginge fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Sep 10, 2012 |
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Sep 10, 2012 11:13
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It might be worth cranking up the pitchouts slider as well against the Neo-Doppel-Bangers. You've got a bunch of control pitchers that can probably afford to be behind in the count. Plus it's not like the Neo-Doppel-Bangers are gonna smash it out of the park.
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Sep 10, 2012 11:21
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The Saints traded their second-round dispersal draft pick to me, which I then traded to the Eazy-W's.
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Sep 10, 2012 12:29
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Hey Smasher what do you think the Rated R Super Stars should do, draft wise. Though I suspect some combination of pitcher, catcher, shortstop is probably inevitable.
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Sep 10, 2012 13:06
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Smasher Dynamo posted:You have a week to get me your draft preferences before I destroy your team! Would you like that in the form of a giant list? Because the Great Googly-Mooglies can provide you with a giant list: 19?? Josh Gibson 1939 Ted Williams 2001 Alex Rodriguez 1951 Yogi Berra 1951 Willie Mays 1998 Ivan Rodriguez 2001 Ivan Rodriguez 1985 Rickey Henderson 1978 Mike Schmidt 1939 Jimmie Foxx 1982 Robin Yount 1975 Joe Morgan 2004 Jeff Kent 2004 Carlos Beltran 2004 Jeff Bagwell 1995 Roger Clemens 1959 Roberto Clemente 1989 George Brett 1987 Eddie Murray 2001 Rafael Palmeiro 2004 Lance Berkman 2009 Matt Holliday 1978 Willie Stargell 1906 Mordecai Brown 1964 Ron Santo 1966 Brooks Robinson 1978 Steve Carlton 1939 Joe Cronin 1962 Willie McCovey 1984 Lance Parrish 1968 Al Caline 1978 Bobby Bonds 1939 Bobby Doerr 1995 Jose Canseco 1999 Robb Nen 1997 Robb Nen 1982 Rollie Fingers 2004 Jason Isringhausen Best Player Available EDIT: I forgot to note: If a position has already been taken by my team, please skip all guys from that position for the rest of the draft. Thanks! The Goog fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Sep 11, 2012 |
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Sep 10, 2012 13:47
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My Draft Preferences, estimated:Smasher Dynamo posted:1. 1960 Whitey Ford (HIL)
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Sep 10, 2012 17:03
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tatankatonk posted:Cultists, Postmodernists, Daydreamers, and Goose Eggs, please submit any playoff changes ASAP. Playoff Roster (in batting order) RF Billy Hamilton CF Max Carey LF Barrold Bonds 3B Joe Kelly 1B Sam Crawford 2B Nap Lajoie SS Ozzie Smith C Ray Schalk Bench: C Darrell Porter UT Jake Beckley RF Elmer Flick IF Tony Womack IF Tom Herr OF Willie McGee Rotation: Noodles Hahn Rick Reuschel Vic Willis Addie Joss Pen: CL Jeff Reardon SU Todd Worrell SR Jesse Orosco SR Bill Campbell MR John Tudor LR Kid Nichols Mopup Nap Rucker e: Oh, yeah, Stolen Bases/Hit and Runs to +1 this series. Pitch-outs don't scare me, but Jim Sundburg does. Pete Ladd fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Sep 10, 2012 |
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Sep 10, 2012 19:37
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Smasher Dynamo posted:If you have any questions about roster construction or how to fix your team, ask them now. I know about old Schmidt (though I expect I'll keep him on as a pinch-hitter) and Ron Gant. Can either Reggie Sanders in his career year or old Dwight Evans (who I have, but didn't make it into the Expansion) hold up in right? I have a lot of platooning pieces in Kruk/Dykstra and Irvin/Baylor - can their powers combined make something useful, or should I look for value at 1B/LF in the draft? Does Sal the Barber's age sink him for Mogul? I'm prepared to go in with Ryan/Tanana/Rijo/Antonelli, and draft another starter. Did Mike Jackson just roll badly, or is he doomed to suck?
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Sep 10, 2012 19:58
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Archie Goodwin posted:I know about old Schmidt (though I expect I'll keep him on as a pinch-hitter) and Ron Gant. Can either Reggie Sanders in his career year or old Dwight Evans (who I have, but didn't make it into the Expansion) hold up in right? I have a lot of platooning pieces in Kruk/Dykstra and Irvin/Baylor - can their powers combined make something useful, or should I look for value at 1B/LF in the draft? Does Sal the Barber's age sink him for Mogul? I'm prepared to go in with Ryan/Tanana/Rijo/Antonelli, and draft another starter. Did Mike Jackson just roll badly, or is he doomed to suck? I don't think Reggie Sanders is going to hit quite enough as a corner outfielder in the Super-League. As for Dwight Evans, it depends how old he is. Really, anything under 37 or so is worth at least a spot on your bench, though. That said, it wouldn't be a terrible idea to look for value at 1B/LF in the draft. I don't know if that should be your first pick, but it's something to keep an eye out for. Maglie is kind of a weird case. I think the issue is that Mogul looks at the conditions of that era (this would be the late '40s-late '50s) with its relatively low K rates compared to today, and truly terrible K/BB ratios for pitchers, and comes to the conclusion that pitchers back then weren't very good. They don't have the low ERA rates of the deadball era or the '60s, they don't have the super-high K rates of the steroid era, they don't have the freakish endurance and win totals of the '70s, and so Mogul shafts them. And that's just a long way of saying that while I might consider giving Maglie another shot, I would definitely draft another pitcher, and I would keep Maglie on a very short leash if you do decide to put him back in your rotation. As a postscript, if I had more time, I would correct the a bunch of deficiencies in Mogul's rating system, including: -Deadball pitcher's groundball rates -Deadball fielder's fielding rates -'20s Hitters contact rates -Overhaul of Wartime (1941-1945) ratings -Postwar Walk and Strikeout rates -70s endurance ratings (probably) -60s-80s hitting rates And probably a few other things. Sadly, that would require editing hundreds of players ratings, and I don't really have the time to do that.
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Sep 10, 2012 21:51
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Smasher Dynamo posted:And probably a few other things. Sadly, that would require editing hundreds of players ratings, and I don't really have the time to do that. Interesting reading! Smasher Dynamo posted:I don't know if that should be your first pick, but it's something to keep an eye out for. This gives me an idea - with 20 (ish) people in the new class, would it be too onerous to draft round by round? If the alternative is enormous lists or wild guesses about who might be available, it would almost be easier, no? Obviously not a pick at a time, just gives us the chance to make three assessments of who might be available.
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Sep 10, 2012 22:10
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NotThatSamBeckett posted:Interesting reading! The problem with that is that it's a pain in the rear end to wrangle 20 owners to get me preferences in the first place. Trying to do it three times would make the draft take about two or three weeks.
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Sep 10, 2012 23:20
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The St Paul Bearers, as a fail-safe, put in a default draft preference of BPA, BPA, BPA until I can get some semblance of functionality from the other owners.
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Sep 11, 2012 00:30
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The Goose Eggs draft strategy: 2nd baseman, best pitcher available
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Smasher Dynamo posted:The problem with that is that it's a pain in the rear end to wrangle 20 owners to get me preferences in the first place. Trying to do it three times would make the draft take about two or three weeks. Do you mind if we give you orders that basically run to 'I think I need XYZ, here is some approximate valuations, please make some intelligent decisions?' removes the needs for massive lists or guesswork.
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Sep 11, 2012 00:51
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Cthulhu Dreams posted:Do you mind if we give you orders that basically run to 'I think I need XYZ, here is some approximate valuations, please make some intelligent decisions?' removes the needs for massive lists or guesswork. Smasher will make a list that shows what each team will be drafting beforehand, so it's not like you have no opportunities to change your pick if something happens.
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Sep 11, 2012 00:53
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Mathematicians draft choices, since lists are apparently in this year. 19?? Josh Gibson 1939 Ted Williams 2001 Alex Rodriguez 1951 Yogi Berra 1951 Willie Mays 1985 Rickey Henderson 1978 Mike Schmidt 1975 Joe Morgan 2004 Jeff Kent 1959 Roberto Clemente 1936 Chuck Klein 1964 Ron Santo 1995 Roger Clemens After that, BPA.
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Unspecifieds Draft Preferences: 1st Round: 1. Josh Gibson 2. Ted Williams 3. Roger Clemens 2nd Round: Best Catcher if it's Pudge or better, otherwise best CF 3rd Round: BPA
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Sep 11, 2012 01:22
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kw0134 posted:The St Paul Bearers, as a fail-safe, put in a default draft preference of BPA, BPA, BPA until I can get some semblance of functionality from the other owners. I'm always here, man. We absolutely need another starting pitcher. He doesn't need to be a world-beater, but we need to replace Doyle Alexander, and Schilling is too young to rely on him rolling well again. If we can get two, that would mean we could go in with Marichal/Perry/DP1/Lyons/DP2 and use Passeau and Warneke as LR/backups. Beyond that, we need another catcher if we're going to stick Biggio at second. Simmons is fine, though, so we just need a backup. I'd be fine with anyone down to Burgess on the draft list - but we can probably trade some spare parts for someone. '79 Keith Hernandez to Polyarny for Victor Martinez, maybe. Don't have to blow a pick that way. Otherwise, honestly, we're in pretty drat good shape. I'm not thrilled with McCovey's performance, but considering a younger version is the top-rated 1B, what can we do, yanno? I'd rather have Foxx or Eddie Murray, personally. We're not likely to get improvements where we're drafting at SS/3B/LF. Maybe if Berkman/Klein/Kaline falls to us in RF, but our extant Bobby Bonds would be OK. We could use a super-utility guy better than Ken Oberkfell - Red Schoendienst or Tony Lazzeri would fill that role, off the top of my head. Absent further conversation, I'd say we should probably go Round 1: SP Round 2: Foxx/Klein/Berkman/Murray/Schoendienst/Lazzeri Round 3: Foxx/Klein/Berkman/Murray/Schoendienst/Lazzeri/SP With the understanding that if we get one of the first four in the 2nd round, we move on to utility guy in the 3rd. I certainly like some of those pitchers over others, but I don't want to get into that here.
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Viscount Slim posted:we can probably trade some spare parts for someone. '79 Keith Hernandez to Polyarny for Victor Martinez, maybe. Don't have to blow a pick that way. I would agree to this if you poor bastards can assemble a quorum. Been interested in him since the team selections, and I only bought Victor Martinez to sell him. Smasher: fair enough. It does seem to be an issue. I, myself, have no idea who to draft to keep on-theme. e: well, anyone who's likely to be there when it's my turn to pick, obviously. Pete Ladd fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Sep 11, 2012 |
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Sep 11, 2012 02:16
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Might as well post my draft preferences before I forget. 1978 Mike Schmidt 1935 Joe Medwick 2004 Carlos Beltran 1936 Chuck Klein 1937 Lefty Gomez 1939 Lefty Grove 1982 Jack Clark 1960 Nellie Fox 1978 Bobby Bonds Best Pitcher Available
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Before I forget, the Mudholes list should go something like this: Best SP available Best 2B available Best SP available Best, um, SS available Best RP available If I get the time to research, I'll post again with actual preferred players.
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1st round 1. Mays 2. Young Morgan 3. Mike Schmidt 4. Best Pitcher Available 2nd Round: 1. Robin Yount 2. Pitchers David Cone or above 3. Carlos Beltran 4. Best IF available 3rd Round 1. Best Pitcher above Petite 2. Best reliver above Isuraghousing or however you spell it. 3. BPA
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Viscount Slim posted:
I approve of both a prospective trade for backup catching and this draft selection.
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Idaho Potatoes Draft preferences: 1) Josh Gibson 2) Best available 1B 3) Best available LF
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Factional Warfare We'd just like to take up the handicapping option proposed by Factoralite, but with a twist. Each of our teams nominates three players from a team in the opposing faction. The team designed picks one of the three players, and that player plays for the Superstars faction for the season. To prevent boning rotations completely, each list must include a pitcher and a position player. At the end of the season - and before the gauntlet, the player is returned to their original team. Cthulhu Dreams fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Sep 13, 2012 |
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Sep 11, 2012 07:32
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kw0134 posted:I'm decently pleased with our starting position players, so yeah, I can get behind the idea that beyond a SP and at our drafting position what we can take is gravy. Since The Paris Polyarny proposed a trade along the lines you suggested, I would concur if you will. Somewhat shockingly, we managed to get people together in IRC to put together the following, slightly modified, lists: (Forever and Bruiser were terrified by Ted Simmons' defense) Round 1: Mordecai Brown/Carlton/Ford/Berra/'98 I-Rod/Foxx/Kaat Round 2: (the above, but only one catcher total) + Berkman/Klein/Cronin/Schoendienst/Murray/'01 I-Rod Round 3: (the above, but only draft one C/RF/IF) + RP Jeff Montgomery or better/SP I, too, approve of the Hernandez-Martinez trade.
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 Draft preferences (assuming I lose the TLCS) Round 1: Joe Morgan, Jeff Kent, Willie Mays, Kirby Puckett, Yogi Berra, Carlos Beltran, Roberto Clemente, Roger Clemens, Steve Carlton, Whitey Ford, Jim Kaat, Robin Yount, Rollie Fingers, BPA (not 1B, 3B, SS, or LF) Round 3: BPA (not 1B, 3B, or the position of the first pick) I'm willing to move both up and down from pick 20 (not too far down though).
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Viscount Slim posted:Somewhat shockingly, we managed to get people together in IRC to put together the following, slightly modified, lists: (Forever and Bruiser were terrified by Ted Simmons' defense) I approve of the draft lists and the trade.
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Hey Smasher, have another giant list! This one is submitted on behalf of the Rated R Superstars: 19?? Josh Gibson 2001 Alex Rodriguez 1995 Roger Clemens 1939 Ted Williams 1951 Yogi Berra 1998 Ivan Rodriguez 2001 Ivan Rodriguez 1978 Mike Schmidt 1982 Robin Yount 1906 Mordecai Brown 1985 Rickey Henderson 1978 Steve Carlton 1960 Whitey Ford 1939 Jimmie Foxx 1964 Ron Santo 1954 Larry Doby 1998 David Cone 1966 Brooks Robinson 2004 Carlos Beltran 1966 Jim Kaat 1975 Joe Morgan 2004 Jeff Kent 1951 Willie Mays 1939 Joe Cronin 2004 Roger Clemens 2004 Andy Pettitte 1989 Kirby Puckett 1924 Red Faber 1978 Willie Stargell 1939 Bobby Doerr 1934 Chuck Klein 1989 George Brett 1984 Lance Parrish 1962 Willie McCovey 2009 Matt Holliday 1995 John Valentin 2001 Rafael Palmeiro 1987 Eddie Murray 2004 Jeff Bagwell 1960 Luis Aparicio 1966 Luis Aparicio 2011 Victor Martinez 1999 Robb Nen 1982 Rollie Fingers 1997 Robb Nen 2004 Jason Isringhausen Best SP Available Best Player Available Note: If a player we would draft plays the same position as a player we have already drafted, please skip him, unless that player would be the second starting pitcher drafted.
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The Goog posted:Hey Smasher, have another giant list! This one is submitted on behalf of the Rated R Superstars: As 34% owner of the Superstars, I approve the draft order.
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