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Ian McLean posted:ok. I feel like you are going to try and trick me into some ridiculous stat way over budgeted time spent. That's fine. How's this work? You PM me for my login info, in exchange for this stat you want me to upload? if this is your response to  im actually concerned about what 300000 would have done to you
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what is this posted:http://www.kaggle.com/about what do you think about this, ian?
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mods namechange posted:openpandora no dont!!
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Sep 17, 2012 15:05
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yeah what do you think about THAT
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Sep 17, 2012 15:11
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why did statpedia turn into "Coming Soon"
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Sep 17, 2012 15:57
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he probably got tired of showing goatse to friends, "potential investors", etc
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CamH posted:i used a goto 
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Markov Chain Chomp posted:he probably got tired of showing goatse to friends, "potential investors", etc when youre tired of goatse you're tired of life 
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Null Pointer posted:eight team members, five of which are not contributing directly to the product. mostly paying clearing wages. burning $45,000 a month on a 1-year runway. team leader is a programmer, the project manager is important, and so is the tester. I count 7 being paid. The project manager used to be a programmer, and he helps a lot with design. The tester is an extra 12k a year. Research and worklfow analyst is constantly taking in feedback and also helping with design. There is enough stuff that needs to be done to keep everyone busy. This project needs a solid structure. Like I said.... we can keep going with our shoestring budget, and another 20k of funding to pull us through the next year. I didn't make this budget, but if this is what the team wants, and this is what they believe statpedia needs, then I trust their decisions. I have pages upon pages upon pages of design specifications sitting on hold because limited resources. These support roles such as tester, and analyst make the programmers lives easier. Would I like to see the programmers getting paid the most? Yes, but they aren't asking for more, so... what do I do. I think I am just sort of approaching it as an "if it aint broken, don't fix it." type attitude about this budget. I don't have to worry about timesheets, or making sure people developing the priority stuff, scheduling team meetings. I can just innovate, read over the code, make small changes here and there, and continue developing the big picture statpedia vision. Right now I do tons of testing, I am constantly designing stuff, innovating, worrying about this and that. I need to start dividing up the work I do. Everyone likes working on statpedia, because it is different and interesting, so pretty much everyone is happy with it. I put myself in for $1. 8 people developing statpedia for 300k... I would say that is about as lean as you are going to find in this world. Do I need 8 people? Yes. I could ramp up twice that and still have more stuff to do. I have no shortage of development. Once again... 20k will keep us starving, but they will still help me even with that much. Really all this comes down to facilitating development speed. With more money I can scale up. With less, I can scale down. This budget can be adjusted to any amount between 20k and 2 million without me worried about how to efficiently spend the funds.
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so you're the ideas guy huh
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give him a break he made the
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you dont need 8 people working on this
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i wish my dreams included a small business with poor ideas
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0xB16B00B5 posted:you dont need 8 people working on this you don't need any people working on it because it is poo poo
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maniacdevnull posted:you don't need any people working on it because it is poo poo arguably true
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Ian McLean posted:team leader is a programmer, the project manager is important, and so is the tester. I count 7 being paid. Hi Ian, it's me again. i'm just posting to let you know that i was really tempted to make a long carepost about how wrong you are, but then i realized that it could actually help you and i'd rather see you flounder. good luck with the whole non-technical/non-domain/non-business ceo and big corporate pm making financial decisions thing.
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so does anyone have more funny kickstarters or what
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how about some bullshit you can bolt on to your iphone http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/108290897/iexpander-an-expansion-device-for-your-iphone-4-an?ref=category
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Yodzilla posted:how about some bullshit you can bolt on to your iphone http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/108290897/iexpander-an-expansion-device-for-your-iphone-4-an?ref=category Your old iphone
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theflyingexecutive posted:Your old iphone minor lol at the thought of those folks who funded that kickstarter for those milled solid aluminum iphone docks looking at the new connector in shaking disbelief.
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NoneMoreNegative posted:minor lol at the thought of those folks who funded that kickstarter for those milled solid aluminum iphone docks looking at the new connector in shaking disbelief. I posted this earlier in the thread but they loving shipped mine the DAY I placed my order for the iPhone 5 then they had the temerity to send out an email saying "eventually" they will come out with adapters I signed up in january or maybe december, the kickstarted was funded in february. it arrived a couple days ago. that was my kickstarter lesson in don't buy things on kickstarter
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this whole thing seems like something elgruntox would do in irc to catalog all the different buttbot quotes. not a loving Project with a Kickstarter and eight people EIGHT PEOPLE
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protip: do not fund a kickstarter for a product if you really want it just buy it when it goes on sale (or don't because it's poo poo)
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Jonny 290 posted:this whole thing seems like something elgruntox would do in irc to catalog all the different buttbot quotes. not a loving Project with a Kickstarter and eight people
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Ian McLean posted:Once again, I did not make this spreadsheet. I just added my name in at the top, and threw in the rightscale + amazon combo (open for suggestions on this). Currently using justhost for 40 bucks a year plus their all new cloud flare for 14 bucks a month! The project manager made this budget: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqDR76NleZQsdDJRNGxHakw2T1Y3OXltamFIRk1SV1E#gid=0 Again, 5
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Jonny 290 posted:buttbotpedia Now there's a kickstarter I can get behind
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Ian McLean posted:I can just innovate lol i think your real problem has nothing to do with the code, or what's being coded, or what price you're paying your coders. if you had 2 million and your budget scaled and you had millions of lines of code pouring into this thing, versus your current budget, it wouldn't make the slightest difference in your final product's success or failure
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lol @ almost 23,000 dollars for an office and office equipment. why the gently caress do you think you need an office
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just a butt posted:butt buttbot
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0xB16B00B5 posted:lol @ almost 23,000 dollars for an office and office equipment. Conference room for meetings, gently caress
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Ericadia posted:Now there's a kickstarter I can get behind hey bro i just wanted to say thanks for the PM, you are hard to get ahold of but i appreciate the shoutout.
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ian is the guy charging you 4000/month the person saying you need all this? you should fire him
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what is this posted:that was my kickstarter lesson in don't buy things on kickstarter see the inherent problem with kickstarter is that people say things like this. you are never "buying" something on kickstarter. you are just sending money to a black hole somewhere and hoping that it'll spit out a thing you want at some indefinite point in the future. it's not the same as preordering an anime from gamesport or whatever can't wait for the nerd-rage when the ooooyeah doesn't show up on the doorsteps of those 30,000 people who think they "bought" one
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Jonny 290 posted:hey bro i just wanted to say thanks for the PM, you are hard to get ahold of but i appreciate the shoutout. np. I'm in #yospos pretty intermittently
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so whats to stop me from making a kickstarter for something nerds will pay good money for and then going "cya later shitlords" and keeping the cash for myself?
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Sweevo posted:so whats to stop me from making a kickstarter for something nerds will pay good money for and then going "cya later shitlords" and keeping the cash for myself?
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just a butt posted:the kickstarter tos and that's literally all. once the money is in your account you can do whatever the gently caress you want and short of a civil suit (which would probably get thrown out since the tos says no guarantees) you're golden
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