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AndItsAllGone posted:I really want to like this video but I feel the authority was way too quick to bust out the taser. Perhaps the truth lies... somewhere in the middle? 
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ekuNNN posted:Taking a camera into a courthouse is not punishable by being tased. I assume it's punishable by maybe a fine or not being allowed in. He bumped into the security guy when trying to go through the doorway. Do you seriously feel that warrants being tased? What about talking some more to him, or arresting him if you think he did something illegal? There was no reason at all to tase him. Watch the longer video. The guy was clearly there to be an annoying prick and test everyone's patience to the breaking point so he could feed his persecution complex when they finally reacted to him. I'm honestly surprised they didn't throw him out sooner. That kind poo poo isn't tolerated for long in courthouses and I'm kind of amazed by their restraint. A flashback to 2008 courtesy of Coldcut and noted strange person TVSheriff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6Lz264wOAg  I hope they do another one for this year
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ekuNNN posted:Taking a camera into a courthouse is not punishable by being tased. I assume it's punishable by maybe a fine or not being allowed in. He bumped into the security guy when trying to go through the doorway. Do you seriously feel that warrants being tased? What about talking some more to him, or arresting him if you think he did something illegal? There was no reason at all to tase him. They told him to put away the camera or leave. It is clearly stated on a sign that you can't bring a camera into the courthouse. He bumped into a security guard and then accused him of committing "battery" as well (I assume he meant criminal assault). Also, they did arrest him after they disabled him. When you're dealing with someone who is obviously disconnected from reality you don't want to take any risks. ekuNNN posted:The fact that he is a part of a pretty disorganised group that believes retarded poo poo, and of whom a small number have killed people would be a valid reason to tase him for you? What if he kinda looked like a muslim? Would that be okay then too? "Looking like a Muslim" would be a terrible excuse for tasing someone since looking like a Muslim means nothing. Even if he was wearing a "Hi, I am a Muslim" pin that would still be a terrible excuse because Islam is a religion of 2 billion adherents and a few thousand terrorists. According to the SPLC there are 100,000 sovereign citizens. There have been hundreds of murders committed by members of that small movement. A significant portion of sovereign citizens are legitimate terrorists. The security guard/cop was right to act the way he did for his own protection and for the protection of others at the courthouse. ekuNNN posted:Look at the security guy, he doesn't look at all like he suspects that the guy with the camera has a weapon, he looks like he's tired of the annoying dude with the camera. How anyone can defend the security guy's use of a taser in this case is beyond me. But hey, it's a guy we politically disagree with who was being annoying, so who cares if some power-tripping security guard decides to assault him because he knows he won't ever be punished for it? Listen to the hilarious sounds he makes when he's convulsing on the floor If the security guard was quaking in his boots that would have made this situation acceptable? We have no idea what was going on in the security guard's mind. The "activist" did just try to rush past him. The security guard did the right thing. 
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NewtGoongrich posted:We have no idea what was going on in the security guard's mind. The "activist" did just try to rush past him. The security guard did the right thing. I disagree. While I think that he was right to neutralise the threat, using a taser in a courthouse on a person of questionable mental state is hard to justify. The guard has no way of knowing whether he has concealed weapons or is intending to cause a distraction before making his (fatal?) move. He should have dealt with the threat using a faster method which could better guarentee the safety of those he is there to protect. Edit: forgot a picture 
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The whole Taser debate never goes anywhere, there will always be someone defending the abuse of power that comes with those devices. It's pointless to argue about it here in the pictures thread, at least. STOP RUNNING AWAY, I FEEL THREATENED!!!
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Barometer posted:The whole Taser debate never goes anywhere, there will always be someone defending the abuse of power that comes with those devices. It's pointless to argue about it here in the pictures thread, at least. Don't forget about the wave of the future!  quote:The more powerful weapon can immobilise a suspect for 20 seconds from 100ft away and is being tested by Home Office scientists. Fluoride Jones fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Sep 21, 2012 |
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"Non lethal" and "Less than lethal" are such wonderful catch-alls. "This shouldn't kill you, here's hoping for the best"!
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Saint Sputnik posted:Are there more? These are great. When Ron Paul came to my campus he had similar requirements for people in the best seats. You had to pledge to vote for him in the primary and surrender a bunch of contact information or get tossed to standing room only. The best "my opponent is in bed with China" smear of 2012: 
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OLIVIAS WILDE RIDER posted:
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"Refused to comply... Was saying things like "shoot cops" and "kill cops", things like that, so we tased a child with a broken back, you know, because we're loving scum"  
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While looking for color images of the Great Depression I found these amazing paintings by Ronald Debs Ginther. Seattle Hooverville:  May Day 1930 march in Seattle:  Union-busting in Portland, 1932:  Workers for the Hearst-owned Seattle Post-Intelligencer beaten while trying to cross picket line, 1936:  Anti-eviction action in Portland, 1931:  Leafleting in Portland Hooverville, 1931  It just goes on and on. Go look at the collection already. Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Sep 21, 2012 |
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Humboldt squid posted:I know, why don't they just use the microwave pain based compliance device instead? Apparently the warm-up process for the ADS takes like ten hours. It's just realistically more cost effective to hire Steven Seagal to run over stuff (puppies) in an APC. 
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Finally, an answer to that right-wing Jesus/Constitution painter:
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Gazpacho posted:While looking for color images of the Great Depression I found these amazing paintings by Ronald Debs Ginther. Cool find! I'm reminded of Botero, although he takes the naive approach one step further.  Can't find a title, but it depicts the Violencia era in Colombia.
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Peven Stan posted:When Ron Paul came to my campus he had similar requirements for people in the best seats. You had to pledge to vote for him in the primary and surrender a bunch of contact information or get tossed to standing room only.  A picture of Ordos, China's modern-day ghost town. A boom in housing investment left whole towns without actual buyers. Housing prices are dropping even more than the US prices were. All of the construction looks great on paper as GDP, but it doesn't actually help the economy. Spookily Silent Chinese 'Ghost City' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLnR2JIW3pA&feature=fvwrel
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NewtGoongrich posted:They told him to put away the camera or leave. It is clearly stated on a sign that you can't bring a camera into the courthouse. He bumped into a security guard and then accused him of committing "battery" as well (I assume he meant criminal assault). Also, they did arrest him after they disabled him. When you're dealing with someone who is obviously disconnected from reality you don't want to take any risks. NewtGoongrich posted:"Looking like a Muslim" would be a terrible excuse for tasing someone since looking like a Muslim means nothing. Even if he was wearing a "Hi, I am a Muslim" pin that would still be a terrible excuse because Islam is a religion of 2 billion adherents and a few thousand terrorists. According to the SPLC there are 100,000 sovereign citizens. There have been hundreds of murders committed by members of that small movement. A significant portion of sovereign citizens are legitimate terrorists. The security guard/cop was right to act the way he did for his own protection and for the protection of others at the courthouse. This is a loving ridiculous argument and complete bullshit. The guy was being annoying, not threatening. The amount of "legitimate terrorists" who believe the same dumb things as he does is still tiny and even if it was larger, being part of a minority who believes dumb poo poo shouldn't be used as an excuse to pre-emptively tase someone. As if that security guy even took this retarded argument of yours into account. NewtGoongrich posted:If the security guard was quaking in his boots that would have made this situation acceptable? We have no idea what was going on in the security guard's mind. The "activist" did just try to rush past him. The security guard did the right thing. No, the point is that it would still be unacceptable to tase this guy if the security guy was actually really afraid of these sovereign citizens. The fact that he appeared to just be annoyed means it's even more of an abuse of power. Situations like these should be handled by talking or by escorting someone out of the building, or trying to calmly arrest him. Using force should be the very last option, when there's actually a reason to fear for your safety and there's no other way to handle it. The security guard tried no other ways to get the guy to leave, he just tases him to be rid of him, cause he's annoyed. Don't you think government officials should be held to a very high standard when it comes to using their monopoly of violence. So like, not using your taser because it makes it slightly quicker to get rid of an annoying guy. The use of force of a government employee against a citizen should always be the very last resort. The fact that you're so blasé about such a casual use of violence against a citizen is disgusting and depressing.     
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midnightclimax posted:Cool find! I'm reminded of Botero, although he takes the naive approach one step further. I got the same vibe from those paintings as well. I love Botero, he's really known as the "Fat Guy" painter by a lot of people who see his sculptures, but his Abu Ghraib paintings were awesome 
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So remember this thing. Well the Romney team has whipped up their own version!  This is official merchandise. For only $20 you can own a bad photoshop tracing with a random font slapped on.
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That looks like a loving Reddit macro. Terrible. Members of the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigade, paramilitary wing of the PFLP
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syscall girl posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpzn4ST0C9E At least they didn't shoot him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8WijDe5BhQ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fouad_Kaady
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t3h z0r posted:So remember this thing. Reminder that R-Money's website plagiarized word for word from Obama's as well as stealing the design. 
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particle409 posted:Spookily Silent Chinese 'Ghost City' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPILhiTJv7E Australian news report on China's ghost cities from early last year. The correspondent getting chased out of the nearly-empty mall by security -- and then waltzing straight back in through a different entrance -- is just
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^ Also they are selling unlicensed campaign merchandise. This is such a simple idea but it is a horrible metacommentary on modern politics. On one hand the guy is a tool. On the other hand, abusive paternal police state. He should have been tased and dragged out of the building, with no arrest. But then again sovereign citizens are nutty and could be foot-soldiers if the Republic For the United States attempts a coup (Fox News had them as a headline a few weeks ago) They go way back too. Dale once went on a rant about how the gold fringe on the flag indicates an Admiralty court that cannot legally try him. He gets gagged.
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duTrieux. posted:I consider this a lethal weapon and would respond to it as such. Good luck with that response. It usually involves convulsing uncontrollably on the floor while someone puts a knee in your back. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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 Today, anti-militia demonstrators in Libya took over two compounds belonging to Ansar al-Sharia (accused of the attack on the consulate) and one belonging to the Martyrs of Abu Slim brigade. I think this photograph is of the HQ of Ansar al-Sharia.
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Saw Michael Lewis give an interview the other day and he talked about his time with President Obama for a story. Said one of the weirdest parts was how the President thinks he'll be able to go back to a semi-normal life when things are done. Was talking about how he thinks he'll be able to just drive around town. Whether you like him or not, he seems like a good guy.
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McDowell posted:On one hand the guy is a tool. Maybe most people agreeing with me just don't have pictures to post or something, but I'm amazed by the acceptance of D&D of this clearly unjustified tasing. This is such a simple thing, but because I had expected a kind of general condemnation of the tasing, this has started to seem like a good case of everything that's wrong with the US to me. Just random citizens being so indoctrinated that they feel the need to defend authoritarian pieces of poo poo infringing on their rights, because maintaining order in the completely hosed up status quo is the most important thing. Recently a policewpman in the Netherlands was filmed kneeing a drunk man in the stomach while he clearly wasn't in a state to resist. This started a countrywide controversy about police-men and -women, and the fact that they should refrain from violence when it isn't 100% justifiable. Of course we also had authoritarian pieces of poo poo that argued that it's only right when the cops assault drunk people, but at last there was a discussion, like there should be in a country that's not completely morally bankrupt. Here's a bunch of ALF/ELF/Earth First/Vegan pics:                  
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ekuNNN posted:Maybe most people agreeing with me just don't have pictures to post or something, but I'm amazed by the acceptance of D&D of this clearly unjustified tasing. This is such a simple thing, but because I had expected a kind of general condemnation of the tasing, this has started to seem like a good case of everything that's wrong with the US to me. Just random citizens being so indoctrinated that they feel the need to defend authoritarian pieces of poo poo infringing on their rights, because maintaining order in the completely hosed up status quo is the most important thing. You're not alone, man. The security guy definitely overreacted.  Federal crowd control, 1918   A loving "crowd control" claymore mine http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/m5.htm
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