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KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Data Graham posted:

They are, actually. They're just PS2s, only in a custom size.

And a significantly higher speed rating due to a higher-spec construction. So while it may share the name, the tire itself is different.

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VolumeOverTalent
Jan 27, 2006

Quoted from the 'awesome AI stuff' or whatever thread...

Hello Spaceman posted:

Chris Meeke took a Bentley out to play.





A little bit of Googling tells me that this was a feature being filmed for Top Gear. I'm getting excited now.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

KozmoNaut posted:

And a significantly higher speed rating due to a higher-spec construction. So while it may share the name, the tire itself is different.
Going off at a mild tangent from this, how do you buy the Veyron-spec tyres? Can you only buy them through Bugatti, or can anyone special-order a set for their quad-turbo V12 XJ220 or whatever?

VolumeOverTalent
Jan 27, 2006

InitialDave posted:

Going off at a mild tangent from this, how do you buy the Veyron-spec tyres? Can you only buy them through Bugatti, or can anyone special-order a set for their quad-turbo V12 XJ220 or whatever?

I remember something about having to send the wheels away somewhere to be fitted with new tyres... I might just be imagining it though.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


InitialDave posted:

Going off at a mild tangent from this, how do you buy the Veyron-spec tyres? Can you only buy them through Bugatti, or can anyone special-order a set for their quad-turbo V12 XJ220 or whatever?

VolumeOverTalent posted:

I remember something about having to send the wheels away somewhere to be fitted with new tyres... I might just be imagining it though.

You have to special-order the tires for the Veyron, they're made on a special production line because they need to be absolutely perfectly made. It's no fun having a blowout while doing a top speed run, after all. Whether you can actually order them directly from Michelin, I would think so, if you can pony up the cash.

I think you need to have a specialist fit the tires, probably because seating the bead properly etc. on a 400+kph ultrahypermegacar is somewhat important. The Veyron uses the Michelin PAX runflat system, which require specially-designed rims:



Obviously, that's not a Veyron wheel, PAX tires are used on a bunch of more pedestrian vehicles as well.

KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Sep 22, 2012

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


jojoinnit posted:

And Shell gas is what makes Ferrari's so fast!

You'd think so, but F1 cars use fuel that's nearly the same as pump gas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_One_car#Fuel

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/08/how-close-is-f1-fuel-to-road-car-fuel/

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

KozmoNaut posted:

You have to special-order the tires for the Veyron, they're made on a special production line because they need to be absolutely perfectly made. It's no fun having a blowout while doing a top speed run, after all. Whether you can actually order them directly from Michelin, I would think so, if you can pony up the cash.

I think you need to have a specialist fit the tires, probably because seating the bead properly etc. on a 400+kph ultrahypermegacar is somewhat important. The Veyron uses the Michelin PAX runflat system, which require specially-designed rims:



Obviously, that's not a Veyron wheel, PAX tires are used on a bunch of more pedestrian vehicles as well.

Holy poo poo, I didn't know PAX still existed. I thought it was a massive failure, I remember seeing design drawings for old PAX equipment a couple years ago.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
Rut said they are filming 10 more episodes. :dance:

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Crustashio posted:

Holy poo poo, I didn't know PAX still existed. I thought it was a massive failure, I remember seeing design drawings for old PAX equipment a couple years ago.

From an engineering perspective, PAX works. The problem lay in the fact that in order to service PAX wheels and tires, a tire shop would need to buy tens of thousands of dollars of new equipment for one specific task. Getting enough shops on board with the idea proved to be impossible.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

MrChips posted:

From an engineering perspective, PAX works. The problem lay in the fact that in order to service PAX wheels and tires, a tire shop would need to buy tens of thousands of dollars of new equipment for one specific task. Getting enough shops on board with the idea proved to be impossible.

Sounds like standard michelin engineering practice then :v:

shut up blegum
Dec 17, 2008


--->Plastic Lawn<---

VolumeOverTalent posted:

Quoted from the 'awesome AI stuff' or whatever thread...


A little bit of Googling tells me that this was a feature being filmed for Top Gear. I'm getting excited now.

Here's a short vid of it. Looks pretty awesome :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrNzPInDja0

Aurune
Jun 17, 2006

Clarkson posted:

Each Top Gear item takes 2 weeks to prepare, 5 days or so to film and 2 weeks to edit. So far we've done 2. We need another 22. Do the maths
http://twitter.com/jcrclarksonesq/status/250485592205443074

I have done the math, but I think he hasn't. Five days plus two weeks isn't two weeks.

MiniFoo
Dec 25, 2006

METHAMPHETAMINE

Aurune posted:

http://twitter.com/jcrclarksonesq/status/250485592205443074

I have done the math, but I think he hasn't. Five days plus two weeks isn't two weeks.

...What?

djdanno13
Apr 20, 2004

Killing Nazi Zombies since June 14 1775

I think it's more, 2 weeks prep (as in story boards, script writing, script rehearsal, blocking, site selection, car selection, getting cars) , 5 days of shooting, then 2 weeks of editing. It's not 2 weeks to prepare (finish) the whole segment, it's 4 weeks 5 days.

djdanno13 fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Sep 26, 2012

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
But they are all doing their own thing, so they can do more than one segment at once. But I guess if each segment takes a month to do, that explains why they only have about six episodes per series.

Anarchist Mae
Nov 5, 2009

by Reene
Lipstick Apathy

Cojawfee posted:

No one wants to load up an action movie and a bad guy is being chased in a boring Peugot.

I know this was from ages ago, but here have some James Bond:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzqGrJNCtZ4

Unfortunately the 2cv gets away and the Peugeot lands in a tree.

Also, just watched the latest episode of the US series...
Adam completely destroys a Mustang by driving it off a cliff.

:psyduck:

DrPain
Apr 29, 2004

Purrfectly priceless
items here.

psychoticmeow posted:

Also, just watched the latest episode of the US series...
Adam completely destroys a Mustang by driving it off a cliff.

:psyduck:


The only true mustang is the GT. That was an appropriate end for that imposture.

Lets be fair, he did attach a hang glider to it.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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The fact that it actually hit the bouncy castle was one of the real live laugh-till-you-honk, can't-believe-that-actually-happened moments that make Top Gear Top Gear.

404GoonNotFound
Aug 6, 2006

The McRib is back!?!?

Data Graham posted:

The fact that it actually hit the bouncy castle was one of the real live laugh-till-you-honk, can't-believe-that-actually-happened moments that make Top Gear Top Gear.

Truly, a Clarksonian plan at its finest. And it worked! ...technically.

MiniFoo
Dec 25, 2006

METHAMPHETAMINE

Data Graham posted:

The fact that it actually hit the bouncy castle was one of the real live laugh-till-you-honk, can't-believe-that-actually-happened moments that make Top Gear Top Gear.

Actually, the real knee-slapper in my case happened to be the Lincoln's car-alarm activating from all of the dirt and rocks the Mustang flung everywhere after colliding with the cliff. That, in my opinion, was the icing on the cake.

cool kids inc.
May 27, 2005

I swallowed a bug

My daily commuter is a Yaris and I was pretty much howling the second I saw it in the teaser. It performed EXACTLY as I thought it would.

Big K of Justice
Nov 27, 2005

Anyone seen my ball joints?

MrChips posted:

From an engineering perspective, PAX works. The problem lay in the fact that in order to service PAX wheels and tires, a tire shop would need to buy tens of thousands of dollars of new equipment for one specific task. Getting enough shops on board with the idea proved to be impossible.

It's not too different than what was on H1 Hummers or HMMWV's and those can be replaced in the field with hand tools and a strap. Basically a rubber/composite donut on a 2 piece wheel. The labor intensive part is compressing the donut and getting it in and out of the tire.

More trouble than its worth, I can use its usefulness in the military, but even with the civilian relaunch of the h1 coming up, they're planning to dump the runflat option and offer a simple, easy to install beadlock insert as standard.

Tooling wasn't a big problem. I do it with a 29$ ratchet strap, the official Kent Moore tool for runflat removal runs about $700. The big money eater is labor, because when you have to explain to a customer that he/she has to pay 2 hours labor per wheel for tire removal and installation, they tend to freak a bit.

What tends to happen in these situations is the runflats get tossed in the garbage on the first tire swap to save on future labor.

My Lincoln came with the Michelin runflat option but alas, no runflats when I put new tires on.. I wonder why.. :allears:

I was glad to see Moab on Top Gear USA last night.. I was in the exact same car wash last week hosing off my truck... glad to recognize a few spots.

Big K of Justice fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Sep 26, 2012

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

cool kids inc. posted:

My daily commuter is a Yaris and I was pretty much howling the second I saw it in the teaser. It performed EXACTLY as I thought it would.
The little hill climb it pulled off was pretty amazing though, it just kept going.

Also loved when Adam hit Tanner in the nuts right before they closed the trunk lid on him.

Grumpwagon
May 6, 2007
I am a giant assfuck who needs to harden the fuck up.

I know this isn't the Fifth Gear thread (I doubt one exists), but I wanted to point out that this season has been pretty solid. In this most recent one, Tiff races in a Lambo sponsored race against professional drivers, and does quite well. FG having a racing driver with a personality does give them some flexibility to do some things that TG can't. It's still a worse than either TGUK or TGUS, but I do think this season has been decent enough to watch.

nmfree
Aug 15, 2001

The Greater Goon: Breaking Hearts and Chains since 2006
I'm pretending that this is a combination of "impostor" and "impure", and it makes more sense than either of those words alone.

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005

Grumpwagon posted:

I know this isn't the Fifth Gear thread (I doubt one exists), but I wanted to point out that this season has been pretty solid. In this most recent one, Tiff races in a Lambo sponsored race against professional drivers, and does quite well. FG having a racing driver with a personality does give them some flexibility to do some things that TG can't. It's still a worse than either TGUK or TGUS, but I do think this season has been decent enough to watch.

Nice! Fifth Gear definitely has some good moments. Not quite as well-written as Top Gear, but you've really got to appreciate how animated Tiffany Dell is.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Grumpwagon posted:

I know this isn't the Fifth Gear thread (I doubt one exists), but I wanted to point out that this season has been pretty solid. In this most recent one, Tiff races in a Lambo sponsored race against professional drivers, and does quite well. FG having a racing driver with a personality does give them some flexibility to do some things that TG can't. It's still a worse than either TGUK or TGUS, but I do think this season has been decent enough to watch.

I have to agree. I watched Fifth Gear in the past as more of a "nothing else to watch that's properly car related" thing, but this season has been genuinely good. The circle track test of the Optima was surprisingly entertaining.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

angryhampster posted:

Nice! Fifth Gear definitely has some good moments. Not quite as well-written as Top Gear, but you've really got to appreciate how animated Tiffany Dell is.
Was this post written with voice dictation or is that just a horrible nickname you just came up with?

And since we're talking about Fifth Gear, reminder that it's coming to the US on Velocity next month, although there doesn't seem to be a date or schedule for it yet.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009

japtor posted:

Was this post written with voice dictation or is that just a horrible nickname you just came up with?

And since we're talking about Fifth Gear, reminder that it's coming to the US on Velocity next month, although there doesn't seem to be a date or schedule for it yet.

Clarkson calls Tiff that because Clarkson and it does kinda sound like that if you don't know what's up with 'Tiff'.

Tiff.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
Watched the latest Top Gear US last night. That was genuinely entertaining. When the Mustang went off the cliff my two-year-old (who loves cars) yells "OOH NOO!" and I was howling with laughter.


I really want to take a Lincoln Continental offroading now. It performed way better than it had any right to.

Big K of Justice
Nov 27, 2005

Anyone seen my ball joints?

CornHolio posted:

I really want to take a Lincoln Continental offroading now. It performed way better than it had any right to.

It's a Towncar they took out, panther chassis, body on frame RWD. I'm sure the continental would fair just as well, there's nothing really to hang up underneath in terms of drive train if you slap a basic skid plate across the front of late model continental...

Oddly enough I ran it through Valley of the Gods in Utah when I picked it up Colorado.. so I watched the Top Gear episode with glee even though their trail they claim they took makes no physical sense... but thats reality tv for you.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

Geared Hub posted:

It's a Towncar they took out,

That's right, I knew that too. I don't know why I typed Continental.

edit: vv I thought for sure that oil pan was a goner. vv

CornHolio fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Sep 27, 2012

opengl
Sep 16, 2010

My favorite part was the look on Rut's face when Adam was bouncing the Mustang up that really tough rocky hill. The one where the whole front end went up and down like a lowrider.

I would have loved to see a better conclusion showing what condition the two cars left were in. What was left of the suspensions, etc.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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God, yeah. I want a freeze-frame of him standing there with his mouth gaping open. He looked like a drat cartoon character.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007
I'm not sure I've ever laughed at any Top Gear episode so hard as watching that loving Mustang fly.

And hit the bouncy castle.

Big K of Justice
Nov 27, 2005

Anyone seen my ball joints?
Ha, some of the locals in Moab kind of made fun at the behind the scenes stuff on another forum.

The cliff stuff at the end was on private land [BLM would not let a tv crew do what they did], they closed off the road that was just out of camera view, and use a bulldozer to lower the Lincoln down.

The same bulldozer at the end pulled the Lincoln out and not the Yaris, they just shot it that way.

Another guy noted some of the trails they mentioned taking doesn't exist but is a combination of various trails, but that's reality tv for you...

For anyone that's been there the ending was shot on Kane Creek Rd SW of Moab.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
This season of Top Gear USA has been fantastic. They dropped the studio stuff and just focused on fun challenges. Hell, have they even reviewed a car yet? I think the show is starting to hit its stride.

Sinestro
Oct 31, 2010

The perfect day needs the perfect set of wheels.
Top Gear US is pretty good, they just need to put Adam to death.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Tanner's "gosh" gets funnier and funnier the more bleeped-out swear words they put into the dialogue.

"Son of a BLEEP BLEEEP BLEEPing BLEEEP! There is no way you're getting that BLEEEPing thing up there, my gosh! BLEEEEEP"

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shoopeach
Aug 13, 2012

Sinestro posted:

Top Gear US is pretty good, they just need to put Adam to death.

I did enjoy when they made fun of adam at the end of this episode. From the start of the TGUS series, Adam was my least favorite.

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