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The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Polo-Rican posted:

Yeah, "useful" is very subjective. There's just this annoying dialogue circulating in the tech world now that PCs are dead and that tablets will overtake everything. I'm just making sure he's not actually expecting that.

Ah okay, I'm right with you on that. Tablets and PCs will coexist for sure. My buddy actually sold his iPad because he got a Macbook Air and said it was just as portable and way more useful.

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zmcnulty
Jul 26, 2003

Oh that's no problem. I'm a heavy user of Excel at work so I fully understand that tablets and PCs are very different things.

uapyro
Jan 13, 2005
Looks like the TF700T had a Jelly Bean release today; but for Sweden only at the moment. Is there any reason it's not out for everywhere? What differences are there besides language, and maybe WiFi radio?

Frozen Peach
Aug 25, 2004

garbage man from a garbage can

uapyro posted:

Looks like the TF700T had a Jelly Bean release today; but for Sweden only at the moment. Is there any reason it's not out for everywhere? What differences are there besides language, and maybe WiFi radio?

To release it in a smaller market, to make sure there are no unexpected bugs that would affect a larger market?

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

I'm trying to find a case for my brother's Nexus 7. this one is probably closest to what he wants but unfortunately the shipping from that site is really expensive. Anyone know of a similar suitable case, or another site that sells Waterfield stuff? Also are there any tablets with similar dimensions to the Nexus? presumably their cases will fit too

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



THC posted:

I'm trying to find a case for my brother's Nexus 7. this one is probably closest to what he wants but unfortunately the shipping from that site is really expensive. Anyone know of a similar suitable case, or another site that sells Waterfield stuff? Also are there any tablets with similar dimensions to the Nexus? presumably their cases will fit too

https://www.google.com/offers/home#!details/b7b9bb412fa66fb3/7647RU2I0BVPMD3S

I saw this Leatherette Case on Google Offers for $14 (originally $30).

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Looks like Barnes and Noble is all in with going toe to toe with Amazon. Earlier today, a video service was announced with a bunch of partners (along with Ultraviolet support) and now we have hardware. There's the Nook HD and Nook HD+. These are 7 and 9 inch tablets.

The 7 incher has a 1440x900 display. $199 and $229 (8 and 16gb)

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/26/barnes-and-nobles-nook-hd-7-inch-android-tablet-hands-on-video/

The 9 incher has a 1920x1280 display. $269 or $299 (16 and 32gb)

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/26/barnes-and-noble-announces-nook-hd-9-inch-tablet-we-go-hands-on/

Rooted Vegetable
Jun 1, 2002
Am I the only one just loving having a simple zip up case that I can pull my N7 in and out of? http://amzn.com/B004LSUR3M
Keep the slim form of my N7 when in hand, but super protection in pocket...

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

Heners_UK posted:

Am I the only one just loving having a simple zip up case that I can pull my N7 in and out of? http://amzn.com/B004LSUR3M
Keep the slim form of my N7 when in hand, but super protection in pocket...
I love this type of case for my 10" tablets. They don't really ever leave my house so I don't need a sturdy case for them.

Tunga
May 7, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Heners_UK posted:

Am I the only one just loving having a simple zip up case that I can pull my N7 in and out of? http://amzn.com/B004LSUR3M
Keep the slim form of my N7 when in hand, but super protection in pocket...

I use this case too, I generally only use my tablet when I am sitting somewhere, dropping it is not really a concern. I've been really happy with the case for protection while traveling.

BeastOfExmoor
Aug 19, 2003

I will be gone, but not forever.
It's too bad those B&N tablets will probably be locked down pretty hard. If they get a stock JB ROM they'd be pretty tempting.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

BeastOfExmoor posted:

It's too bad those B&N tablets will probably be locked down pretty hard. If they get a stock JB ROM they'd be pretty tempting.

Hasn't every other Nook (e-ink and LCD alike) managed to get rooted? Hopefully these won't be different.

fondue
Jul 14, 2002

uapyro posted:

Looks like the TF700T had a Jelly Bean release today; but for Sweden only at the moment.
An ASUS rep said that the TF201 will be updated to Jelly Bean in the USA in the next 48 hours.

Kynetx
Jan 8, 2003


Full of ignorant tribalism. Kinda sad.

The Dave posted:

You know that's very subjective, what is 'useful'. "the best way to read internet stuff in bed" is what makes my Nexus 7 extremely useful. I'm not expecting to do Photoshop on it.

It's a tool, and like any other tool, it has things it can do, and things it does well. You could probably drive a nail with with a big Crescent wrench, but that's not what it was designed for.
That might be a bad metaphor. Maybe the Swiss Army Knife is a better way to go. They can do a large number of things very, very poorly by combining a bunch of half-assed tools into a hybrid device that suits some people just fine.
I'm probably calling myself out as being old, but years ago,the big buzzword in tech was "convergence". We looked wistfully into the future imagining a world where a single device could do the work of two, maybe even three, simultaneously. The idea of a telephone, portable CD player, television, modem, image scanner, and porn repository would have been the fevered dream of a madman 20 years ago.
With tablets, we have a device that does a large number of things poorly, but with extreme convenience. I resolved to try out the paradigm of the paperless office we all envisioned decades ago. A TF-101 with a keyboard dock gets me most of the way there. I can half-rear end my way through Office docs, but the device really does shine when it comes to viewing reference materials in PDF form.
If I want to do some real content creation, I go back to the office and get on my dual-screen Win 7 rig. If you think that a tablet can replace a computer, you aren't using it for content creation.

uapyro
Jan 13, 2005

fondue posted:

An ASUS rep said that the TF201 will be updated to Jelly Bean in the USA in the next 48 hours.

What I saw said the TF700 and TF201 within 72 hours. I'm pretty surprised still from the very recent update.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Kynetx posted:

If you think that a tablet can replace a computer, you aren't using it for content creation.

....I've never thought that?

Kynetx
Jan 8, 2003


Full of ignorant tribalism. Kinda sad.

The Dave posted:

....I've never thought that?

No, sorry. That wasn't aimed at you in particular, just people in general.

fondue
Jul 14, 2002

uapyro posted:

What I saw said the TF700 and TF201 within 72 hours. I'm pretty surprised still from the very recent update.

I agree, it made me think that the hardware isn't very different between them.

SlayVus
Jul 10, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Syrinxx posted:

I'd like to see a Nexus 10 from Motorola. I don't think the solution to the problem is very hard:

1. Make a 10.1" tablet at 1900x1200 or higher resolution
2. Make it not loving fall apart

Congratulations you just beat Asus

I would like to reiterate that last point considering my fiasco with my ASUS tablet. Holy gently caress did they mess that poo poo up. There is NOT a lot of build quality in these tablets. I really wish someone would make something better. I would buy it in the heartbeat.

I would like to redirect my opinions on this to my personal dealings with my tablet that I've already posted in this thread already.

SlayVus posted:

Just loving awesome... I broke the glass on my transformer prime.

I had my tablet on my bed, came in from work and took my belt off. I dropped my belt on my bed. The clasp of the belt hit the edge of the screen and shattered that area and made a crack from it to half way up the left side to the edge and from it to half way up the right side to the edge. Not even talking like a one foot drop.



I still use my ASUS tablet on a semi-regular basis because it still works. Man do I get a little heart broken every time I do though considering it was a Christmas Present and I have no way of fixing it without spending $450 for them to fix it or $500 for a new one. I'm kind of glad that it isn't a Transformer Infinity though, because that would just make me want to throw it in the trash for how easy it broke.

SlayVus fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Sep 27, 2012

ModestMuse
Jun 25, 2011

I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your GPS
I'd be a heavenly person today

SlayVus posted:

I would like to reiterate that last point considering my fiasco with my ASUS tablet. Holy gently caress did they mess that poo poo up. There is NOT a lot of build quality in these tablets. I really wish someone would make something better. I would buy it in the heartbeat.

I'm not sure I understand. Do other companies make tablets with glass that doesn't crack when hard metal objects are dropped on it? I know the Nexus 7 screen and Transformer Prime's GPS have their issues, but how is you dropping hard metal on a glass screen an indicator of build quality?

ModestMuse fucked around with this message at 12:53 on Sep 27, 2012

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)
Rumor that google is going to produce 2 new nexus tablets (this year??). One's going to be a thinner nexus 7. The other's going to be $99. Wonder what they're going to give up for that price point.

http://www.bgr.com/2012/09/27/google-nexus-tablet-price-99/

Vagrancy
Oct 15, 2005
Master of procrastination

Mister Fister posted:

Rumor that google is going to produce 2 new nexus tablets (this year??). One's going to be a thinner nexus 7. The other's going to be $99. Wonder what they're going to give up for that price point.

http://www.bgr.com/2012/09/27/google-nexus-tablet-price-99/

No point worrying about it since the BGR quoting Digitimes combo means it's unlikely to happen.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

SlayVus posted:

I would like to reiterate that last point considering my fiasco with my ASUS tablet. Holy gently caress did they mess that poo poo up. There is NOT a lot of build quality in these tablets. I really wish someone would make something better. I would buy it in the heartbeat.

I would like to redirect my opinions on this to my personal dealings with my tablet that I've already posted in this thread already.


I still use my ASUS tablet on a semi-regular basis because it still works. Man do I get a little heart broken every time I do though considering it was a Christmas Present and I have no way of fixing it without spending $450 for them to fix it or $500 for a new one. I'm kind of glad that it isn't a Transformer Infinity though, because that would just make me want to throw it in the trash for how easy it broke.

You know, I'm not a fan of the ASUS build quality on anything they make, save for the recent Zen Primes and a couple of their G series laptops. Not my cup of tea, but they're pretty solid.

Still, this is entirely your fault. You dropped a belt on your glass tablet. Yes, you weighed the metal, and the result was pretty low - but it's not like you gently set the buckle atop the screen, either. This isn't ASUS' problem.

SlayVus
Jul 10, 2009
Grimey Drawer

mediaphage posted:

You know, I'm not a fan of the ASUS build quality on anything they make, save for the recent Zen Primes and a couple of their G series laptops. Not my cup of tea, but they're pretty solid.

Still, this is entirely your fault. You dropped a belt on your glass tablet. Yes, you weighed the metal, and the result was pretty low - but it's not like you gently set the buckle atop the screen, either. This isn't ASUS' problem.

It's not just glass, it is supposed to be Corning Corina Glass. Which according to this video demonstration by Corning can with stand over one hundred pounds of pressure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XAhcIlO3DQ

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

SlayVus posted:

It's not just glass, it is supposed to be Corning Corina Glass. Which according to this video demonstration by Corning can with stand over one hundred pounds of pressure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XAhcIlO3DQ

Slowly applying distributed force over the surface of a piece of glass is not the same thing as striking it with a point of metal.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

SlayVus posted:

It's not just glass, it is supposed to be Corning Corina Glass. Which according to this video demonstration by Corning can with stand over one hundred pounds of pressure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XAhcIlO3DQ

Yes and? You might not have noticed but in the video they carefully and smoothly ramp up the pressure over time. That is completely different from one sudden impact.

Drop a belt buckle against an iPad and it'll probably break too.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

emptyquote my posts or die
I'm super pissed off. I gave myself a paper cut, so I weighed the piece of paper, and it weighs less than a gram! This doesn't make any sense at all because I've placed a bowling ball on my palm and, even though it weighs a lot more, it doesn't cut me at all?

edit: according to google a bowling ball should be around 5443.11 grams, so it should do 5443 times as much damage to my hand as that piece of paper did...

Polo-Rican fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Sep 27, 2012

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


It has to do with the hardness of the materials involved and how focused the impact is. If the belt buckle metal is harder than the glass and it impacted at a point, it will break any glass without much force.

For example, just watch any youtube video of the ceramic spark plug tips shattering car windows.

Vagrancy posted:

No point worrying about it since the BGR quoting Digitimes combo means it's unlikely to happen.

This is the correct answer. Anything BGR reports as rumor ranks up there in the LEAST likely thing to happen.

randyest
Sep 1, 2004

by R. Guyovich

bull3964 posted:

It has to do with the hardness of the materials involved and how focused the impact is. If the belt buckle metal is harder than the glass and it impacted at a point, it will break any glass without much force.

For example, just watch any youtube video of the ceramic spark plug tips shattering car windows.

This is the correct answer. Anything BGR reports as rumor ranks up there in the LEAST likely thing to happen.
Your point stands, but it doesn't really require the striking material to be harder than the target. For example, no metal is harder than glass, in the technical (mohs scale) sense, but as we all know (and he found out) its pretty easy to break glass with metal.

Argyle
Jun 7, 2001

Kynetx posted:

can do a large number of things very, very poorly by combining a bunch of half-assed tools into a hybrid device that suits some people just fine.

Borrowing this to use as a cover letter when I send out resumes.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

Lots of bullets weigh less than that belt buckle.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Thermopyle posted:

Lots of bullets weigh less than that belt buckle.

Heh, I'd like to see a bullet penetrate Corning Corina Glass. :smug:

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

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and the top ten juiced up players

randyest posted:

Your point stands, but it doesn't really require the striking material to be harder than the target. For example, no metal is harder than glass, in the technical (mohs scale) sense, but as we all know (and he found out) its pretty easy to break glass with metal.
Tungsten and chromium are both harder than ordinary glass.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

You guys argue about the dumbest poo poo.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

You guys argue about the dumbest poo poo.
Well this is the Android Tablet Thread.

randyest
Sep 1, 2004

by R. Guyovich

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

Tungsten and chromium are both harder than ordinary glass.
That's true, thank you for the correction. I wonder how they compare to gorilla glass. Does ASUS use gorilla glass (or other almunosilicate glass thingy?) I also wonder how many belt buckles are made of tungsten or chromium ;)

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

You guys argue about the dumbest poo poo.
Not much else to do in here but point taken I'll shut up.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players

randyest posted:

That's true, thank you for the correction. I wonder how they compare to gorilla glass. Does ASUS use gorilla glass (or other almunosilicate glass thingy?)
Corning's site shows that all the Transformer tablets use Gorilla Glass. It's hardness is around 9 versus 7 for normal glass. Gorilla Glass is harder than any metal I can think of, unless you count boron, and that's not likely to be encountered in crystalline form.

randyest posted:

I also wonder how many belt buckles are made of tungsten or chromium ;)
Probably a lot! Chromium is what makes stainless steel corrosion resistant.

feigning interest
Jun 22, 2007

I just hate seeing anything go to waste.
Just in case you guys don't follow the Android Apps thread, Google play is offering a rotating line up of 25¢ apps all week. Be sure to check it everyday!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/collection/promotion_celebrate_25_billion?feature=banner

randyest
Sep 1, 2004

by R. Guyovich

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

Probably a lot! Chromium is what makes stainless steel corrosion resistant.
Is stainless steel alloy with a little bit of chromium in it as hard as pure chromium?

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rotaryfun
Jun 30, 2008

you can be my wingman anytime
According to apple insider, Google and Asus are looking at a $99 Nexus 7 next year. What kind of validity is there to this? Is that price point doable while keeping the same stellar experience that the Nexus 7 currently gives?

http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/27/google-reportedly-planning-to-launch-99-nexus-7-by-end-of-2012

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