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Just read an interview with John Ostrander about the new volume of Agent of the Empire. http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40934 I like that, while still retaining the Bond influences, it'll also take from John le Carre and The Avengers. I hope as the series goes on each volume takes from a different 60's spy-fi series. Also interested that it'll focus on the Dooku family after the Clone Wars.
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VaultAggie posted:drat, that does look awesome. Classic star wars with empire ships and rebel ships Duking it out. Star destroyers actually blowing poo poo up and tie fighters as actually semi-threatening. Even better, the medical frigate gets blown up. Technically Nebulon B frigates were considered escorts, with a few of them being converted into medical ships. They didn't have the hanger for a large contingent of fighters, so usually they'd be paired with a Mon Cal or an ISD (they were on both sides) who'd provide the fighter support. One of the things I loved about Tie Fighter (the game) was that they added in a pile of ships to make space battles make more sense. Victory Star Destroyers who'd provide a backup role for ISD's or operate in smaller conflict zones. Imperial Escort Carriers (which were basically giant boxes with massive hangars), assault shuttles, Gunboats (although that was Xwing), tie advanced and all sorts of stuff (including platforms). And to keep this on books, X-wing, when originally released had a set of the "Farlander Papers" with it. I don't know if you can dig it out as just them, but the X-wing Strategy Guide actually inserted them in semi chronological order so that there was a cohesive narrative between the missions about a guy basically following Luke's path (and according to the papers, he's the one ywing that survived the first death star).
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Sep 15, 2012 06:02
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Calax posted:And to keep this on books, X-wing, when originally released had a set of the "Farlander Papers" with it. I don't know if you can dig it out as just them, but the X-wing Strategy Guide actually inserted them in semi chronological order so that there was a cohesive narrative between the missions about a guy basically following Luke's path (and according to the papers, he's the one ywing that survived the first death star). Yup, I loved that. Keyan Farlander was the character's name. They did the same thing with the TIE Fighter strategy guide, creating the character of Maarek Stele. That's something I always liked about video game strategy guides from that era -- they tried to make them entertaining in their own right, in addition to being informative about the game. Hell, the King's Quest guides were practically novellas.
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Sep 15, 2012 07:21
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Chairman Capone posted:Just read an interview with John Ostrander about the new volume of Agent of the Empire. I didn't know about this comic series, sounds drat fresh and appealing to an old Star Wars 2nd generation grognard like myself.
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Sep 15, 2012 12:13
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SeanBeansShako posted:I didn't know about this comic series, sounds drat fresh and appealing to an old Star Wars 2nd generation grognard like myself. The collected first volume comes out next month. I highly, highly recommend it, and I know others on this thread do, as well. It's the best Star Wars thing that's happened in years. The writing is great, the tone is reminiscent of the OT and the original Daley Han Solo books, and the combination of OT and Connery-era Bond meshes surprisingly well. I honestly can't recommend this enough. I have a friend who loves Bond and the OT but is really resistant to the EU, and I'm going to get him this simply because, even with his views on the EU, I truly think he'll love it.
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Sep 15, 2012 15:36
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Chairman Capone posted:The collected first volume comes out next month. I highly, highly recommend it, and I know others on this thread do, as well. It's the best Star Wars thing that's happened in years. The writing is great, the tone is reminiscent of the OT and the original Daley Han Solo books, and the combination of OT and Connery-era Bond meshes surprisingly well. Just don't get the.... newer Star Wars books that has Han meet a girl... fall for her in a month, and spend the rest of the years until Tattoine pining for her as she falls in with the rebels. Oh and Boba Fett is used as a messenger boy.
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Sep 17, 2012 06:39
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I guess Matt Stover is being tapped to replace Karen Traviss on the 501st books? Not sure about a source to this, though.
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Sep 17, 2012 13:38
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api call girl posted:I guess Matt Stover is being tapped to replace Karen Traviss on the 501st books? Not sure about a source to this, though. That would be awesome if true, especially because I remember an old update to his website back when she was still working for Lucasbooks where he shat on her with surprisingly little of the diplomacy reserved for writers working together.
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Sep 17, 2012 14:02
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Chairman Capone posted:That would be awesome if true, especially because I remember an old update to his website back when she was still working for Lucasbooks where he shat on her with surprisingly little of the diplomacy reserved for writers working together.
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Sep 17, 2012 14:40
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Please god be Stover. Faceless mooks and people don't get covered much in Star Wars. It is like if somebody did the History of our world, but just covered famous and infamous people from WW2 and the Cold War.
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Sep 17, 2012 16:17
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Just put Caine in a Stormtrooper role Stover, that's all I want.
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Sep 17, 2012 16:37
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https://vimeo.com/49368612
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Sep 18, 2012 20:53
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Silly question. How do you pronounce Pellaeon? I've always mentally pronounced it "pell-LAY-on" but apparently it's more common in fandom to put the stress on the first syllable. What do the official sources say -- that is, how is it pronounced in the audiobooks (or video games or whatever else)?
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Sep 19, 2012 03:41
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PAL-e-Yon seems to be how almost all the audiobooks pronounce it. It's pretty much been bored into my skull now, so that's how I prefer it/
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Sep 19, 2012 03:58
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Casimir Radon posted:PAL-e-Yon seems to be how almost all the audiobooks pronounce it. It's pretty much been bored into my skull now, so that's how I prefer it/ I've also pronounced it this way, even without having heard any audiobooks.
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Sep 19, 2012 05:36
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Powered Descent posted:Silly question. This is always how I pronounced it too and it's too engraved in my head to say otherwise now,
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Sep 19, 2012 05:57
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I've always pronounced it PELL-ee-yon
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Sep 19, 2012 15:54
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Powered Descent posted:Silly question. I've always pronounced it just like you, FWIW. He was always one of my favorite characters.
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Sep 19, 2012 16:18
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Anyone waiting on the hopefully possible Faster That Light Star Wars mod? that would rule seriously.
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Sep 19, 2012 16:29
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Is there any material that expands on the post-Legacy universe? In unrelated and tabletop RPG-related news, would it be too canon-breaking to play a cheerful, boisterous Anzati Jedi who makes a habit out of never fully draining his victims' soup so that he might fight them another day when they're better? EDIT: I just think it's a funny idea, that's all. Everyone's expecting this bloodthirsty murderer to walk in the door, but instead they get Count Brian Von Blessed. CommissarMega fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Sep 24, 2012 |
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Sep 24, 2012 07:41
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CommissarMega posted:Is there any material that expands on the post-Legacy universe? If you mean post-Legacy of the Force, then the Legacy comics fit that requirement. If you meant Legacy comics, then Legacy - War was released to finish the whole thing off, on the off chance that you missed it. After that, nothing yet, though I think it's a very fertile ground for more stories - the galaxy's left in a state where a lot could happen and I hope they don't brush all of the great worldbuilding aside just for the sake of whatever other story comes next.
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Sep 24, 2012 08:25
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EddieDean posted:After that, nothing yet, though I think it's a very fertile ground for more stories - the galaxy's left in a state where a lot could happen and I hope they don't brush all of the great worldbuilding aside just for the sake of whatever other story comes next. Everything about Legacy is wonderful except for Cade Skywalker, the Second Most Punchable Character in Star Wars.
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EddieDean posted:After that, nothing yet, though I think it's a very fertile ground for more stories - the galaxy's left in a state where a lot could happen and I hope they don't brush all of the great worldbuilding aside just for the sake of whatever other story comes next. Aye, that's what I meant. It's just that the EU was so cluttered with Yuuzhan Vong this and Darksaber that and Jacen Solo becoming Darth rear end in a top hat I got completely turned off. On a more nerdy side, it was difficult as hell to run an adventure in the intervening period since I was afraid of stepping on grognards' toes ("No you can't run that adventure because on Page 75 of Darth Jackass: Huttbane the Vong yada yada"). On that note, which do you think would be more interesting: a game where you're Jedi trying to rebuild the Order, or Imperial Knights in: Her Imperial Majesty's Secret Service? Pththya-lyi posted:Everything about Legacy is wonderful except for Cade Skywalker, the Second Most Punchable Character in Star Wars. I don't know, I don't mind him.
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Sep 24, 2012 08:39
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Cade Skywalker and Jax from Sons of Anarchy have weirdly fused together in my head. Grizzled tough blonde man children with father/destiny issues and all that. Almost done playing through both KOTOR games on STEAM. It really is sad that the new Revan series pretty much has ruined the main characters of both gaes by giving them 'canon personalities'. There are some things that should be a drat mystery. It is like suddenly giving Hercules an incredibly lame back story that he isn't a demi-god but an ancient assistant of a BC Kebab Shop who has allergies to eels.
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Sep 24, 2012 13:26
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Calax posted:Same reason island nations have ground troops. They hold landing zones and defense weapons. The ESB Ion cannon comes to mind. I've been reading Star Wars books for a long time, and I have always known how ridiculous the EU is. However, seeing this picture has completely shattered my ability to rationalize them as a fun series to read. The EU has become to kids playing in the front yard going "No my star destroyer is bigger". Seriously what the gently caress is a malevolent class SSD? I've never heard of that poo poo.
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Sep 24, 2012 16:06
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Hey, if George Lucas ever decides to adapt the Dark Empire series to film and finds it's running a little too short, he can just start it off with the Eclipse star destroyer flying past the screen. It would be bound to take up at least half an hour's worth of the movie.
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mhachtx posted:I've been reading Star Wars books for a long time, and I have always known how ridiculous the EU is. However, seeing this picture has completely shattered my ability to rationalize them as a fun series to read. The EU has become to kids playing in the front yard going "No my star destroyer is bigger". Seriously what the gently caress is a malevolent class SSD? I've never heard of that poo poo. Metal Loaf posted:Hey, if George Lucas ever decides to adapt the Dark Empire series to film and finds it's running a little too short, he can just start it off with the Eclipse star destroyer flying past the screen. It would be bound to take up at least half an hour's worth of the movie.
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Sep 24, 2012 16:17
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That's not Malevolence. That was "only" 4800 meters long, as a Subjagator class heavy cruiser.
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Sep 24, 2012 16:20
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Then it's something even Wookieepedia doesn't have an article on, though there is a podracing course called Malevolent:quote:Malevolent was a podracing course on Oovo IV.The course was known for its use of zero-gravity tunnels chock full of ore for podracers to crash into. Toy Dampner was said to have broken the all time speed record here.
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mhachtx posted:I've been reading Star Wars books for a long time, and I have always known how ridiculous the EU is. However, seeing this picture has completely shattered my ability to rationalize them as a fun series to read. The EU has become to kids playing in the front yard going "No my star destroyer is bigger". Seriously what the gently caress is a malevolent class SSD? I've never heard of that poo poo.
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CommissarMega posted:Aye, that's what I meant. It's just that the EU was so cluttered with Yuuzhan Vong this and Darksaber that and Jacen Solo becoming Darth rear end in a top hat I got completely turned off. On a more nerdy side, it was difficult as hell to run an adventure in the intervening period since I was afraid of stepping on grognards' toes ("No you can't run that adventure because on Page 75 of Darth Jackass: Huttbane the Vong yada yada"). Yes, Legacy cleans up a lot of the trash well, without sweeping it under the rug. It just 'tidies' the galaxy, I guess. It'd be fun to play Imperial Knights. They get lightsabers and the force, but they have a different set of loyalties it'd be fun to explore. Edit: Oh, and thinking of it mechanically, it'd be hard (to my mind, anyway) to have Jedi Knights Rebuilding to play unlike 'Find new Jedi guy. Leave him to work out the internal politics of a new Jedi Order while the rest of you go to find the next one'. If you see what I'm saying. Could be just me. One thing I'm interested in which isn't explored in any SW media I've encountered is the idea of force sensitive people who aren't force sensitive enough, or disciplined enough, to join the Jedi. For example one who was too old when discovered so passed over for training, so went on to smuggle or bounty hunt with growing force sensitivity, but no trainer to keep them focused or disciplined. A neutral, independent, force user. EddieDean fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Sep 24, 2012 |
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EddieDean posted:One thing I'm interested in which isn't explored in any SW media I've encountered is the idea of force sensitive people who aren't force sensitive enough, or disciplined enough, to join the Jedi. For example one who was too old when discovered so passed over for training, so went on to smuggle or bounty hunt with growing force sensitivity, but no trainer to keep them focused or disciplined. A neutral, independent, force user. They've featured a little of that here and there. In the Jedi Apprentice series (the EU answer to Animorphs in some respects, though it was better than it had to be), Jedi learners who aren't selected by a master after they complete their training in the temple are packed off to join their agricultural division and that kind of thing. There are also factions which use the Force but aren't connected to the Jedi or the Sith, but I think they tend to be featured in RPGs or restricted to background mentions. One aspect of the LOTF series that could have been very interesting if they'd paid more attention to it was that Jacen Solo had been off the radar for five years learning about the Force from non-Jedi groups.
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Metal Loaf posted:One aspect of the LOTF series that could have been very interesting if they'd paid more attention to it was that Jacen Solo had been off the radar for five years learning about the Force from non-Jedi groups. That was the one thing I was optimistic about during early FOTJ. They kept saying Luke was going to retrace Jacen's footsteps during that five years, and we ended up with a couple rather forgettable stops that amounted to nothing more than "Yeah, he was here. We taught him stuff."
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Sep 24, 2012 18:55
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We taught him how to TIME TRAVEL.
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Sep 24, 2012 19:24
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api call girl posted:I guess Matt Stover is being tapped to replace Karen Traviss on the 501st books? Not sure about a source to this, though. Karen Travis trivia #66: What nickname do the clone troopers have for the Trandoshan mercenaries that were all over the Republic Commando games, and hence, her books? If you guessed "Trannies" it's you, the grognardiest.
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Sep 25, 2012 06:45
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Han always shoots first. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqJmP7PcaUw
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Sep 25, 2012 16:24
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Insane Totoro posted:Han always shoots first. god dammit now my coworkers are giving me weird looks
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Soooo... since there are something like eleven thousand posts in this thread and I don't want to deal with accidentally catching spoilers (I already have thanks to the Wookieepedia  ), I will just say this and be on my way:After having read the X-Wing series up to the beginning of the fifth book, I can't help but feel like this author is far worse than Stackpole was. Am I alone in this? Also, the massive change-up in characters has me longing for the old "cast and crew" of the Rogue Squadron quadrilogy. I know that perception will probably change as I have to warm up to the characters, but I just need to do a sanity check to make sure it's not just me.
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I enjoyed the Wraith Squadron novels a lot more than the original Rogue Squadron books, myself. The latter seemed to have a nicer variety of characters, to me at least. It's definitely a change if you power through the whole series, but I found it a welcome change.
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Urdnot Fire posted:I enjoyed the Wraith Squadron novels a lot more than the original Rogue Squadron books, myself. The latter seemed to have a nicer variety of characters, to me at least. It's definitely a change if you power through the whole series, but I found it a welcome change. That's good to know. I certainly don't want to write them off and, so far, the characters have been a lot more diverse (it's really quite a mixture of races and whatnot), so I'll definitely keep plugging away.
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