Did anyone else find the back-and-forth between Anderson and Kay absolutely hilarious? Olivia Thirlby and Wood Harris are outstanding comedic actors.
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# ? Oct 1, 2012 17:51 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 20:09 |
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I don't understand why Dredd didn't cuff her and take her out of the building instead of risking the whole place exploding. Is it "because Dredd."?
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 09:56 |
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Saw this movie and utterly loved every moment. EXACTLY what I wanted from a film about Judge Dredd. James Polk posted:I don't understand why Dredd didn't cuff her and take her out of the building instead of risking the whole place exploding. In this case Ma-ma's crimes were so great and severe, Dredd knows the punishment is automatically death and that takes precedence with his utter application of the law. While Anderson did go some way into allowing Dredd to see different sides to the law, he still upholds it religiously. Ma-ma needed to be sentenced and executed.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 10:27 |
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Just came back from seeing it for a second time and I still thoroughly enjoyed it. Nthing the interest for a comics thread for Dredd, because I need more Dredd in my life, whether it be sequels or comics.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 13:52 |
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James Polk posted:I don't understand why Dredd didn't cuff her and take her out of the building instead of risking the whole place exploding. It was a bit silly but I figured he was confident enough that her plan wouldn't work that he figured he could just chuck her instead of figuring it out later.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 15:11 |
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James Polk posted:I don't understand why Dredd didn't cuff her and take her out of the building instead of risking the whole place exploding. Just to add to what people have said, beyond the literal plot reasons, it helps with solidifying Dredd as comparable to Ma-Ma and the judges as comparable to the gang. He kills her in more or less the same way she kill the low-level dealers at the beginning.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 15:30 |
James Polk posted:I don't understand why Dredd didn't cuff her and take her out of the building instead of risking the whole place exploding. He explains his reasoning right before he does it.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 18:27 |
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Only made 6 mill opening weekend - so that's pretty much a death knell for a sequel, I take it.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 20:41 |
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Crackbone posted:Only made 6 mill opening weekend - so that's pretty much a death knell for a sequel, I take it. Wouldn't the target audience be the UK anyway?
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 20:43 |
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Maybe. Though I remember looking at the rest of the box office for that weekend and it was pretty low across the board. There could be a sequel as one last hurrah to get things moving but if that one doesn't perform it could probably mean the death of the production company and any hope of another for a few decades.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 20:43 |
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Wouldn't the target audience be the UK anyway? It's only done 10M Foreign total though. Their target for a sequel was at least $50M and it doesn't look good based on the numbers it's doing.
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 20:45 |
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How's it looking for the amount of 2D screenings in the USofA, as mythical as they have been over here?
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# ? Oct 2, 2012 22:51 |
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WickedIcon posted:He explains his reasoning right before he does it. Yeah, but I think his point was that he was still taking the risk of killing everyone in the building when arresting her would have been a safe alternative. I'm not disapproving of his decision because it ruled, but the alternative does make more sense. Are we still in the spoiler zone? Everyone posting seems to have already seen it.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 00:17 |
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It doesn't get released here until near the end of October.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 00:23 |
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Seen this movie twice so far. Saw Looper last night, and somewhere in the 2nd Act where things slow down (...and in my opinion kinda goes downhill), I thought to myself God drat I want to see Dredd again. Something that I caught the second time around that completely went over my head on the first viewing, when Dredd pulls out the Stun grenade and tells Anderson "Lets give them the good news". By "Good news" he meant "I'm giving these perps 30 seconds to clear out before I blow them all way". What a badass movie.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 00:24 |
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I've been looking for the UK box office, but have not found anything....anyone know the numbers? <clutching at straws for a sequel>
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 01:49 |
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NESguerilla posted:Yeah, but I think his point was that he was still taking the risk of killing everyone in the building when arresting her would have been a safe alternative. I'm not disapproving of his decision because it ruled, but the alternative does make more sense. My favorite characterization about Dredd from that final confrontation. Dredd had to pass judgement on Mama RIGHT NOW! He didn't bother to check on Anderson who was bleeding out from being shot.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 02:56 |
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The ending made sense thematically to me considering the movie opens with Dredd opening fire with machine guns on a highly congested freeway. His job is to uphold the law and it doesn't matter how many people have to die for that to happen.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 03:56 |
Also because Dredd knows that wireless signals tend to not really do a whole lot through poo poo-tons of solid concrete, which holy poo poo people he literally says right before he kills her how did you all miss this. Like, that's very explicitly why he tosses her over the edge instead of just shooting her in the face like every other perp in the movie.NESguerilla posted:There's one thing I have wondered about since I saw it. What tactical reason did Dredd have to use the Hotshot? Wouldn't it have made more sense to just shoot the guy? I know it was an excuse to melt a dudes head but still The perp was an rear end in a top hat and caught Dredd in a bad mood. SALT CURES HAM fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Oct 3, 2012 |
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 04:01 |
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There's one thing I have wondered about since I saw it. What tactical reason did Dredd have to use the Hotshot? Wouldn't it have made more sense to just shoot the guy? I know it was an excuse to melt a dudes head but still
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 04:03 |
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NESguerilla posted:I'm not disapproving of his decision because it ruled, but the alternative does make more sense.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 04:06 |
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Couldn't he have just smoked her once they got out of Peach Tree though?
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 04:13 |
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The thing is, she thought she was in control. She thought she had him, setting up a situation where he'd have to - at least temporarily - knuckle under. And Dredd takes none of that poo poo.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 04:33 |
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Pookerbacca posted:I've been looking for the UK box office, but have not found anything....anyone know the numbers? <clutching at straws for a sequel> About $6 million US dollars, from a foreign total so far of about $10 million, and it might end up with about $15 million domestic. Paltry numbers all around unfortunately.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 05:00 |
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I hate checking this thread because seeing the box office numbers is really disappointing. Hopefully word of mouth spreads enough that DVD sales are much stronger.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 05:58 |
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NESguerilla posted:There's one thing I have wondered about since I saw it. What tactical reason did Dredd have to use the Hotshot? Wouldn't it have made more sense to just shoot the guy? I know it was an excuse to melt a dudes head but still Presumably to make sure that there was no possible death spasm that could end up pulling the trigger.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 06:03 |
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WickedIcon posted:Also because Dredd knows that wireless signals tend to not really do a whole lot through poo poo-tons of solid concrete, which holy poo poo people he literally says right before he kills her how did you all miss this. Like, that's very explicitly why he tosses her over the edge instead of just shooting her in the face like every other perp in the movie. Well, that and he was out of bullets.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 08:19 |
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Jedit posted:Well, that and he was out of bullets. Hadn't he just restocked from the dead judge's supply?
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 08:32 |
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NESguerilla posted:There's one thing I have wondered about since I saw it. What tactical reason did Dredd have to use the Hotshot?
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 10:08 |
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I hope the Lawgiver is really good at detecting context, otherwise you might get situations like this: [Judge Bloggs sees his friend, Judge Exley] Bloggs: Hi, Ex! [An hour later, there's an unfortunate case of overkill and the SJS are called in]
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 10:47 |
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Payndz posted:[Judge Bloggs sees his friend, Judge Exley] Why did Judge Exley throw Rolo Tomasi out of the window instead of just shooting him later?
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 10:57 |
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WickedIcon posted:Also because Dredd knows that wireless signals tend to not really do a whole lot through poo poo-tons of solid concrete, which holy poo poo people he literally says right before he kills her how did you all miss this. Like, that's very explicitly why he tosses her over the edge instead of just shooting her in the face like every other perp in the movie. He's just lucky it wasn't a dead mans switch. I would think any trigger based on your heartbeat you would make a dead mans switch, where the bomb goes off if it didn't keep getting a signal every few minutes.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 15:38 |
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People who were arguing earlier "Why would he pick up Andersons gun!?" I guess some perps just never got the memo
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 19:44 |
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greatn posted:He's just lucky it wasn't a dead mans switch. I would think any trigger based on your heartbeat you would make a dead mans switch, where the bomb goes off if it didn't keep getting a signal every few minutes. A dead man's switch is much riskier, it can go off if a signal is missed because of interference or a dead battery. She thought her callousness about killing tens of thousands of people would save her, but Dredd proved the superior monster by also being willing to risk his own life.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 20:34 |
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Yeah, a system where you blow up your own house with you in it if you get less than 4 bars on your cell phone at any time is a bad system.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 20:41 |
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Just saw this and I thought it was kind of bland and boring, not what I was expecting. Never read the comic books but I thought Dredd was supposed to be a satire of Dirty Harry style over the top policing/fascism, this movie seemed to be playing it straight though.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 22:02 |
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tekz posted:Just saw this and I thought it was kind of bland and boring, not what I was expecting. This is completely satire. At no point in this movie does anyone do anything that could be considered acceptable policing. The entire premise is satire! "One man, one judge, one executioner" doesn't ring as satire to you? If you sat through this movie thinking "yeah that seems fair - why aren't we using the Judge system now?!" then you may want to get yourself checked for Fascism. A policeman sentences a criminal to death, and executes him by shooting a flare into his mouth which literally melts his face, and that's the status quo in this movie
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 22:19 |
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Shanty posted:This is completely satire. At no point in this movie does anyone do anything that could be considered acceptable policing. The entire premise is satire! "One man, one judge, one executioner" doesn't ring as satire to you? The movie presents a dystopian future where this happens, but doesn't really hold it up to ridicule or cast any kind of judgement (irony??) at all really. It's a bland shoot em up action movie, satire is actually supposed to be funny
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 22:29 |
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wolfman101 posted:The ending made sense thematically to me considering the movie opens with Dredd opening fire with machine guns on a highly congested freeway. His job is to uphold the law and it doesn't matter how many people have to die for that to happen. Yeah, the satire is that the justice system is based on the principle that it's more important to horribly punish criminals than it is to actually serve the public interest or protect the citizens.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 22:33 |
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Just saw this over the weekend and can't wait to go back again to catch it in 3D. I don't think its been mentioned much in the thread, but the prop department did an amazing job arming the gangsters in the opening and the dudes in the tower block. I love how they're all packing this assortment of hacked together Fallout-style poo poo, oddball 70s/80s vintage stuff and a few beat to hell semi-modern guns. It's such a tiny detail, but it really helps to sell that kind of gritty atmosphere the entire film has.
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# ? Oct 3, 2012 22:33 |