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BirdOfPlay
Feb 19, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Fun silly thing. Ran a goon/GBS project to get shirts printed that made ~$800 total and will be giving all remaining profits to charity. How extensive do my records need to be for this to not cause me any issues this tax year?

For the record it was run through Kickstarter and Amazon, with Amazon making me fill out a tax questionnaire thingy tax interview for a 1099-K. According to them, though, I won't get one since it was <$200K and didn't have 200 transactions. Does this mean I don't have to file for the money made and, thusly, how it was spent?

And, if it matters, no I didn't form a little shell entity/business just to make a shirt order for a bunch of goons.

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Admiral101
Feb 20, 2006
RMU: Where using the internet is like living in 1995.
You will have to report the $800 of revenue. I'm assuming you have some kind of printed record of whatever expenses you incurred? That would be sufficient.

Keep in mind that if you don't itemize you'll be getting no benefit from whatever profits you gave to charity.

Admiral101 fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Sep 24, 2012

BirdOfPlay
Feb 19, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Admiral101 posted:

You will have to report the $800 of revenue. I'm assuming you have some kind of printed record of whatever expenses you incurred? That would be sufficient.

I've been keeping a listing in a spreadsheet for expenses just to keep a running total of the funds so I know how much is left over, but also have receipts for supplies and shipping and an invoice from the printers.

quote:

Keep in mind that if you don't itemize you'll be getting no benefit from whatever profits you gave to charity.

For some reason, I thought if I wrapped it up as an expense, showing the this little venture resulted in a zero-sum gain for me that would be enough. I'll keep records though and see what makes sense come tax time (not like I' not looking at a 1040 for this year, regardless).

As always, thanks for the help taxgoon.

10-8
Oct 2, 2003

Level 14 Bureaucrat

BirdOfPlay posted:

I've been keeping a listing in a spreadsheet for expenses just to keep a running total of the funds so I know how much is left over, but also have receipts for supplies and shipping and an invoice from the printers.


For some reason, I thought if I wrapped it up as an expense, showing the this little venture resulted in a zero-sum gain for me that would be enough. I'll keep records though and see what makes sense come tax time (not like I' not looking at a 1040 for this year, regardless).
Corporations can deduct donations but sole proprietorships have to report donations as individuals, which Admiral101 pointed out is useless to you if you aren't itemizing.

Also, you probably owe self-employment tax on the net profit. Should hopefully just be a few bucks if your gross receipts were only $800.

jtsold
Jul 6, 2004
dlostj
I'm reasonably sure I understand how these work, but just want to be sure before I write a big ol' check to TDAmeritrade...

I'm self-employed and have already contributed $5000 to my traditional IRA (as I do every year). I just set up a SEP IRA in addition. I can contribute the maximum amount to both each year and deduct the full combined contribution, correct? Or is it one or the other?

furushotakeru
Jul 20, 2004

Your Honor, why am I pink?!

JimTheSarcastic posted:

I'm reasonably sure I understand how these work, but just want to be sure before I write a big ol' check to TDAmeritrade...

I'm self-employed and have already contributed $5000 to my traditional IRA (as I do every year). I just set up a SEP IRA in addition. I can contribute the maximum amount to both each year and deduct the full combined contribution, correct? Or is it one or the other?

The combined contribution limit is the same as your SEP IRA maximum. In other words, subtract $5,000 from whatever you figured your SEP contribution to be.

Risket
Apr 3, 2004
Lipstick Apathy
I have a question about qualifying for the Earned Income Credit. For the record I'm in Indiana, if that matters.

At the beginning of this year I had to make an early withdrawal from my 401k, which after taxes amounted to about $6200.

I will be filing as Married Filing Jointly. I made $38200/year until the beginning of this month, and I got a raise to $40000/year. My wife is a stay at home mom, and she is also a 50% disabled veteran, so she brings in roughly $11232/year on this.

Actually I have two questions.

1. Does my wife's VA disability count towards the income requirements of the EIC? Everything I've read says probably not, but it seems to be difficult to find reliable information on the internet.

2. With my early withdrawal in the amount of $6200 from my 401k, does it count towards the investment income restriction of $3200 on the EIC? Everything I've read says that I won't qualify for the EIC based on this withdrawal, but I'd figure that I should ask.

Thank you

MiTEG
Mar 3, 2005
not stupid, just lazy
How is the fair market value for shares of a private company determined during the execution of a stock option?

My dad has a some options with an exercise price of $0.25, and during the most recent round of funding investors valued the stock at $1.50. This is a small, private company and he thinks he wouldn't be able to sell the stock for more than $0.75. So if he bought and immediately sold 100,000 shares, would this be the proper tax treatment?
code:
Selling price ($.75 × 100,000 shares) 	$75,000
Purchase price (option price)  
($0.25 × 10,000 shares) 		-25,000
 	Gain 			   	 50,000
Amount reported as wages 
[($1.50 × 100,000 shares)- $25,000] 	125,000
Amount reported as capital loss
[$75,000 – ($25,000 + 125,000)]	 	 75,000
That doesn't seem right, but I can't find anything more helpful on the IRS website.

furushotakeru
Jul 20, 2004

Your Honor, why am I pink?!
If it is a "small private company" then I am sure the company has right of first refusal on the shares, and why wouldn't they pay the $1.50 FMV?

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

furushotakeru posted:

If it is a "small private company" then I am sure the company has right of first refusal on the shares, and why wouldn't they pay the $1.50 FMV?

I think you answered yourself right there.

"Small private company."

furushotakeru
Jul 20, 2004

Your Honor, why am I pink?!

AbbiTheDog posted:

I think you answered yourself right there.

"Small private company."

Then why are they granting 100k options?

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

furushotakeru posted:

Then why are they granting 100k options?

Pay 'em with promises, not cash!

Risket
Apr 3, 2004
Lipstick Apathy

Risket posted:

I have a question about qualifying for the Earned Income Credit. For the record I'm in Indiana, if that matters.

At the beginning of this year I had to make an early withdrawal from my 401k, which after taxes amounted to about $6200.

I will be filing as Married Filing Jointly. I made $38200/year until the beginning of this month, and I got a raise to $40000/year. My wife is a stay at home mom, and she is also a 50% disabled veteran, so she brings in roughly $11232/year on this.

Actually I have two questions.

1. Does my wife's VA disability count towards the income requirements of the EIC? Everything I've read says probably not, but it seems to be difficult to find reliable information on the internet.

2. With my early withdrawal in the amount of $6200 from my 401k, does it count towards the investment income restriction of $3200 on the EIC? Everything I've read says that I won't qualify for the EIC based on this withdrawal, but I'd figure that I should ask.

Thank you
Hate to be a bother, but does anyone know the answer to my question?

Thank you

Admiral101
Feb 20, 2006
RMU: Where using the internet is like living in 1995.
1. Your wife's VA disability benefits are not considered earned income for purposes of the EITC credit, if that's what you mean by "count towards the income requirements".

2. Early 401k withdrawals are not investment income. Therefore, that alone would not disqualify you from the EITC.

Risket
Apr 3, 2004
Lipstick Apathy

Admiral101 posted:

1. Your wife's VA disability benefits are not considered earned income for purposes of the EITC credit, if that's what you mean by "count towards the income requirements".

2. Early 401k withdrawals are not investment income. Therefore, that alone would not disqualify you from the EITC.
Got it, the definition of investment income confused me a bit.

Thanks for the quick answer!

ynotony
Apr 14, 2003

Yea...this is pretty much the smartest thing I have ever done.
I started a little side business with a friend this summer, and all the sales are going to my personal paypal account. But now that we're starting to make real money, we're going to open up a new bank account for the business and run everything through there. We should have done this from the start, but we started really small.

My question is, when I transfer the money from my personal paypal to the new bank account, how do I tell the IRS about it so it isn't seen as personal income? I expect to get a 1099 from paypal reporting around $40,000, and I will have dumped 100% of it into the business bank account.

scribe jones
Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

ynotony posted:

I started a little side business with a friend this summer, and all the sales are going to my personal paypal account. But now that we're starting to make real money, we're going to open up a new bank account for the business and run everything through there. We should have done this from the start, but we started really small.

My question is, when I transfer the money from my personal paypal to the new bank account, how do I tell the IRS about it so it isn't seen as personal income? I expect to get a 1099 from paypal reporting around $40,000, and I will have dumped 100% of it into the business bank account.
Have you applied for an EIN for the business? If so, you'll file a Schedule C with $40k of income and a $40k expense for "Reported on EIN #XX-XXXXXX". That way you won't get a matching notice.

You'll also want to tell Paypal to issue your next year's 1099 to the business so that you won't have to worry about it next year :)

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

scribe jones posted:

Have you applied for an EIN for the business? If so, you'll file a Schedule C with $40k of income and a $40k expense for "Reported on EIN #XX-XXXXXX". That way you won't get a matching notice.

You'll also want to tell Paypal to issue your next year's 1099 to the business so that you won't have to worry about it next year :)

Not sure he can retroactively apply income collected to a business that hasn't formed yet.

I would be OK with this depending on the kind of new business that is formed. If it's an LLC or partnership, probably no big deal, since the taxation would probably be the same. A corporation (either C or S) I would not allow the client to do and make them file two returns. This late in the year not sure it would be worth doing a corporate filing since you'd probably pay more in annual fees/CPA fees to prepare the return than it was worth.

scribe jones
Sep 17, 2008

One of the key problems in the analysis of this puzzling book is to be able to differentiate a real language from meaningless writing.

AbbiTheDog posted:

Not sure he can retroactively apply income collected to a business that hasn't formed yet.

I would be OK with this depending on the kind of new business that is formed. If it's an LLC or partnership, probably no big deal, since the taxation would probably be the same. A corporation (either C or S) I would not allow the client to do and make them file two returns. This late in the year not sure it would be worth doing a corporate filing since you'd probably pay more in annual fees/CPA fees to prepare the return than it was worth.
It sounds like they have an (implicit) partnership, formed when they agreed to do business together. The fact that they're only getting a business checking account/EIN now is irrelevant. I agree that it's a little different if they're electing sub-S status for 2012 but it doesn't sound like that's the case.

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

scribe jones posted:

It sounds like they have an (implicit) partnership, formed when they agreed to do business together. The fact that they're only getting a business checking account/EIN now is irrelevant. I agree that it's a little different if they're electing sub-S status for 2012 but it doesn't sound like that's the case.

Never underestimate the power of a taxpayer with the unlimited ability to form their own business online!

"Yeah, I went ahead and formed that trust that I've elected to be taxed as a subchapter C partnership in the state of Wyvada. I did this about three years ago but was doing payroll under my social security number, is that going to be messing anything up?

Oh, and I got this audit notice in the mail last fall. Was I supposed to do something with this? What does "levy" mean?"

rally
Nov 19, 2002

yospos
Some years ago I purchased an ATV worth about $7500 at the time. Recently sold it for about $5000. I am clear on having to report anything regarding the sale to the IRS, since I made no profit, correct?

Edit: Thought of one other quick tax question. My mother recently added my name to her bank account. There is more money in there than I make in a long time, is this something I need to consider?

rally fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Oct 5, 2012

Admiral101
Feb 20, 2006
RMU: Where using the internet is like living in 1995.

rally posted:

Some years ago I purchased an ATV worth about $7500 at the time. Recently sold it for about $5000. I am clear on having to report anything regarding the sale to the IRS, since I made no profit, correct?

Edit: Thought of one other quick tax question. My mother recently added my name to her bank account. There is more money in there than I make in a long time, is this something I need to consider?

ATV was entirely personal? There's nothing to report.

Regarding your mother's bank account: probably not. Is your mother giving you a portion of the account or something? The only possible implication is gift return filing.

rally
Nov 19, 2002

yospos

Admiral101 posted:

ATV was entirely personal? There's nothing to report.

Regarding your mother's bank account: probably not. Is your mother giving you a portion of the account or something? The only possible implication is gift return filing.

She put me on the account so I could more easily handle her finances out here. She is moving in a few months and I am locking down the house, etc so it was convenient for my name to be on the checks basically. Also she just had a hell of a time getting her aunt's accounts settled when she died, and said it would be a lot easier for me when the time comes if my name is already on there.

She did let me take $6000 out of the account for the private purchase of my current vehicle. Would I need to report that as a gift or what? I basically took a check, wrote it to myself at the bank, and took the guy selling me the car cash, at the direction of my mother. Car was registered in my name and I paid the property taxes out of the $6000.

Admiral101
Feb 20, 2006
RMU: Where using the internet is like living in 1995.

rally posted:

She did let me take $6000 out of the account for the private purchase of my current vehicle. Would I need to report that as a gift or what? I basically took a check, wrote it to myself at the bank, and took the guy selling me the car cash, at the direction of my mother. Car was registered in my name and I paid the property taxes out of the $6000.

$6,000 is below the threshold so it can be ignored (and even if it wasn't below the threshold, you wouldn't be including it as income, but that's a different topic).

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
This may seem like a dumb question but I am planning on withdrawing $8000 from my Simple IRA to use as a downpayment for a mortgage. This is my first house so I am exempted from paying the 10% penalty. However, I still have to pay tax on the amount. What tax does this include exactly? Is it just Federal and Ohio income tax or does it include every other taxable line that I see on a paystub (Medicare, local, etc)? Would it be ok if I didn't withhold any tax right now and just paid what I owe when calculating my tax returns next year or is that considered a no-no?

furushotakeru
Jul 20, 2004

Your Honor, why am I pink?!

Goetta posted:

This may seem like a dumb question but I am planning on withdrawing $8000 from my Simple IRA to use as a downpayment for a mortgage. This is my first house so I am exempted from paying the 10% penalty. However, I still have to pay tax on the amount. What tax does this include exactly? Is it just Federal and Ohio income tax or does it include every other taxable line that I see on a paystub (Medicare, local, etc)? Would it be ok if I didn't withhold any tax right now and just paid what I owe when calculating my tax returns next year or is that considered a no-no?

Just income taxes. You can choose to pay whatever is due later if your other withholding isn't sufficient to cover your tax. At worst you will face some minor underpayment penalties (assuming you have enough money to pay anything that is due that is).

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
Ok, great thanks that makes everything much simpler.

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

furushotakeru posted:

Just income taxes. You can choose to pay whatever is due later if your other withholding isn't sufficient to cover your tax. At worst you will face some minor underpayment penalties (assuming you have enough money to pay anything that is due that is).

If you buy the house this late in the year, you might not itemize this year and take the standard deduction anyways. If you're taking the standard, you'll get more tax savings by paying the state tax due in 2013 instead of 2012.

Admiral101
Feb 20, 2006
RMU: Where using the internet is like living in 1995.

Goetta posted:

Ok, great thanks that makes everything much simpler.

Remember to exclude IRA basis when you report it on your Ohio return.

psychopomp
Jan 28, 2011
I've been self-publishing fiction online as my primary source of income, and I do well enough that I'm earning about what I would in a crummy part-time job. Pays rent, anyway. I've been publishing under my given name, but I'll be expanding into other pen-names for marketing/branding purposes.

I live in Illinois.

Should I register as a sole proprietorship?
Do I have to file fictitious/assumed business names for my pen names?
If I have several pen-names, should I instead create a small/indie publisher to umbrella them under?

The income from these pen-names by and large comes from each e-retailer to my personal checking account. Should I open up a business account for this instead?

Thanks for any advice.

lampey
Mar 27, 2012

I am married in the US but my wife is a Canadian citizen and resident. Is it possible for me to file as MFJ instead of MFS?

furushotakeru
Jul 20, 2004

Your Honor, why am I pink?!

lampey posted:

I am married in the US but my wife is a Canadian citizen and resident. Is it possible for me to file as MFJ instead of MFS?

Yes, but it involves making an election to treat your wife as a US resident for tax purposes, meaning her income will be included on your return. It might still be beneficial though.

Keep in mind that if you make this election is is irrevocable and you must treat your spouse as a US resident from then on, so make sure you understand what you are doing.

furushotakeru fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Oct 8, 2012

Jewce
Mar 11, 2008
I have a bunch of tax debt that I need to settle.

I've been 1099 for 6 years and have only filed taxes a few of those years cause I am an idiot. The years I filed it was so hard to keep up with my payments that I would just skip the next year. During this time I paid down around 20k in credit card debt from college, which caused me to neglect saving for taxes. I am now debt free besides what I owe the IRS.

Anyways, I really want to settle up my tax debt and start keeping up with my taxes cause I feel pretty ashamed. Who should I talk to about negotiating tax debt? I imagine it is something that I would have trouble doing on my own, but I'm not sure if I go to a CPA or some attorney or what. Thanks.

PretzelAssassin
Jul 23, 2006
My wife is going to have orthodontic work done in 2013. Both of us work (separate employers) and both of us can participate in a pre-tax flex spending account for health care expenses. I know the Affordable Care Act changed the limits starting in 2013 to a $2500 maximum contribution.

Can both my wife and I contribute the maximum to our respective accounts and use that $5K to pay for her orthodontic work?

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

Jewce posted:

I have a bunch of tax debt that I need to settle.

I've been 1099 for 6 years and have only filed taxes a few of those years cause I am an idiot. The years I filed it was so hard to keep up with my payments that I would just skip the next year. During this time I paid down around 20k in credit card debt from college, which caused me to neglect saving for taxes. I am now debt free besides what I owe the IRS.

Anyways, I really want to settle up my tax debt and start keeping up with my taxes cause I feel pretty ashamed. Who should I talk to about negotiating tax debt? I imagine it is something that I would have trouble doing on my own, but I'm not sure if I go to a CPA or some attorney or what. Thanks.

You have two issues.

Before you look at settling, you need to catch up on your back taxes.

After that, you can look into trying to settle/negotiate with the IRS. Depending on the amounts owing (30k+) I would suggest looking into a tax attorney first. If you don't owe that much (a tax attorney might run you $5k for work, NOT including filing back taxes) you can look into one of those local "I worked for the IRS and can help you negotiate with them."

Do NOT call the national ads on daytime TV, they are a ripoff. Note that trying to negotiate with the IRS will probably result in no change to your account (vary rarely do those offers in compromise work). At this point you're trying more to work out a payment plan and stop them from garnishing your pay/bank accounts.

furushotakeru
Jul 20, 2004

Your Honor, why am I pink?!
Abbi, now why would you do a silly thing like telling someone that they need a tax attorney when they probably do not? You or I or any other EA or CPA can represent a taxpayer before the IRS for collection matters. A tax attorney is only necessary if there are criminal charges involved or if they need to go to tax court. And an OIC is a perfectly valid option for many people, the issue becomes that the firms that advertise on TV and radio have a bad habit of submitting ones that have no chance of being acceptance just so they can charge the fee to prepare it.

I have taken on clients that are refugees from some of these firms and the paperwork that gets submitted by some of them is beyond belief (that is when they actually bother to prepare something).

Also, the most notorious law firm in this area charges more like $10-15K not $5K. It will vary by area though.

furushotakeru fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Oct 8, 2012

furushotakeru
Jul 20, 2004

Your Honor, why am I pink?!

PretzelAssassin posted:

My wife is going to have orthodontic work done in 2013. Both of us work (separate employers) and both of us can participate in a pre-tax flex spending account for health care expenses. I know the Affordable Care Act changed the limits starting in 2013 to a $2500 maximum contribution.

Can both my wife and I contribute the maximum to our respective accounts and use that $5K to pay for her orthodontic work?

You should be able to do this, but check with your payroll departments to make sure. I do not think there should be any plans out there that won't reimburse for a spouse's expenses as well as you own.

AbbiTheDog
May 21, 2007

furushotakeru posted:

Abbi, now why would you do a silly thing like telling someone that they need a tax attorney when they probably do not? You or I or any other EA or CPA can represent a taxpayer before the IRS for collection matters. A tax attorney is only necessary if there are criminal charges involved or if they need to go to tax court. And an OIC is a perfectly valid option for many people, the issue becomes that the firms that advertise on TV and radio have a bad habit of submitting ones that have no chance of being acceptance just so they can charge the fee to prepare it.

I have taken on clients that are refugees from some of these firms and the paperwork that gets submitted by some of them is beyond belief (that is when they actually bother to prepare something).

Also, the most notorious law firm in this area charges more like $10-15K not $5K. It will vary by area though.

A) We can represent for collections, but I'm guessing it's more than just a collections matter.
B) See his original post about not filing - I'm also guessing (OP can elaborate) that he might have made some good money in those years he hasn't filed.
C) Or, worst case scenario, he's not reporting full income. I also know that tax preparers do not have "attorney/client" privilege but we can work as subcontractors under an attorney and have our work be protected. This would assist in that matter.

The OIC, if he's making good money, would not be approved. He says he's "debt free" so there's no mortgage or car loans to consider. Also he's running into the statute of limitations for the old tax debts but not on the unfiled years.

I just have a hunch it might be more than "not filing." But that's just me. He hasn't filed for years, but the IRS hasn't filed statutory returns for him? That seems unlikely if he was getting a decent 1099 from whomever was paying him. The IRS usually only gives you one-two years of not filing if you're 1099 before they say "gently caress it" and file a return for you, but he didn't mention that.

Edit: I've gotten involved in far too many of what the client makes out to be "simple collection issues" to get a little gunshy about the big balance ones.

AbbiTheDog fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Oct 8, 2012

10-8
Oct 2, 2003

Level 14 Bureaucrat

Jewce posted:

I have a bunch of tax debt that I need to settle.

I've been 1099 for 6 years and have only filed taxes a few of those years cause I am an idiot. The years I filed it was so hard to keep up with my payments that I would just skip the next year. During this time I paid down around 20k in credit card debt from college, which caused me to neglect saving for taxes. I am now debt free besides what I owe the IRS.

Anyways, I really want to settle up my tax debt and start keeping up with my taxes cause I feel pretty ashamed. Who should I talk to about negotiating tax debt? I imagine it is something that I would have trouble doing on my own, but I'm not sure if I go to a CPA or some attorney or what. Thanks.
1. Unless you're up-to-date on current year filing obligations, the IRS won't negotiate at all. So I'd suggest that you make sure that your 2011 return is filed and that if you're still a 1099 worker that your estimated tax payments are up to date for the last few periods.

2. You need to get your finances in order before you attempt to get an OIC. It's not that hard to get an OIC but it's hard for a lot of taxpayers to complete the program. An OIC isn't just giving the IRS a few cents on the dollar and then walking away free and clear. There are strings attached, including staying current on all of your filing obligations for a period of years after getting the OIC. People tend to fall back into bad habits, don't stay current, and then the OIC is void and all those negotiated savings disappear. There's a very large carrot-and-stick element to OICs.

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Shampy
Apr 27, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
My business is in desperate need of a resell tax exempt license. We're in the distribution business and haven't been asked for one until now. We need to get this ASAP. What's the quickest way of doing this? I see 20 business days quoted but I'm willing to go anywhere to get this poo poo done NOW.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. By the way, I'm in Miami.

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