insanityv2 posted:

in other news, cooley president is shameless

http://www.legalnews.com/ingham/1364918/

nm posted:

Dream Job.

LordPants posted:

Somebody has to defend the hobos living in garbage cans, and stop the math addicts from having their rights taken away.

LordPants posted:

I always though the Count was into gateway drugs, like addition. But that motherfucker was into Fermat's Last Theory? poo poo is cold.

Sesame street is a hosed up place.

stephelopholus posted:

"Attorneys don't retire. They just hang on for dear life."

LordPants posted:

Somebody has to defend the hobos living in garbage cans, and stop the math addicts from having their rights taken away.

Soothing Vapors posted:

TWIX

BigHead posted:

Thanks for bringing up memories of a childhood now lost, jerk.

Feces Starship posted:

mr_cardholder posted:

I just heard from my old college roommate who I haven't talked to in years. He's currently enrolled in Chapman Law school and is apparently his grades are mediocre at best. Oy vey! Really wish I had found this thread earlier so I could have warned him.

CmdrSmirnoff posted:

I heard a court reporter and cop talking about Dragon Age during some down time. I...I didn't join in because I didn't want to look like an autistic manchild in front of colleagues in court.

When did I become what I swore I would never be

terrorist ambulance posted:

LSAT is easily, easily the most trivial and simple part of law school. get out while you can

John Romero posted:

I don't know dude. My gpa is just brought down by idiotic gen-eds, I am much better in my major (polisci). I did a bunch of soul searching over the past semester and realized that nothing would make me as happy as making a go at this, I've always wanted to be a lawyer since I was little. I was planning on taking a year off anyways and I already have a job on a campaign and some other stuff going so that'll probably help me out.


My advisor said that if I can smash the LSAT I have a chance to get into uconn law which I think is a tier 2 or Quinnepeac which is not a t1 or t2 but I know like5 recent grads who had no trouble finding work

Not like in the late eighties when my cousin graduated college with C's, slept through law school, failed the bar like 4 times but now makes $800 k a year

EvilJimmyCarter posted:

Well I was offered and accepted that job in foreclosure prevention that I posted about last week. I'm hoping it isn't a frying-pan-into-the-fire situation, although I can't imagine foreclosure work being worse than family law. Maybe more "boring" but I see that as a good thing after dealing with clients who think seeing the word "angel" on toilet paper is evidence that God exists, and one special lady who accused me of working for the opposing party 5 minutes after we met. Great relationship with that client.

insanityv2 posted:

Hope you smashed the Lsat, bro.

Solid Lizzie posted:

Yeah, the LSAT seems like a walk in the park now. Oh wow a three hour exam with word problems this is nuuuuuts. One eight hour in class Torts exam later...(to say nothing of the Bar.)

John Romero posted:

ayo who else took the lsat today first timer here poo poo was rough

Roger_Mudd posted:

My experience is that they will think you are sent by god to provide them with a free house. Only helping folks with jobs and who can pay a minimal fee now.

EvilJimmyCarter posted:

Eh, isn't this most clients in pretty much any area of law?

"Here's a lovely set of facts and I will be very difficult to work with, now go get me a million dollar settlement/not guilty verdict/sole custody/etc."

In family court I've gotten pretty used to lowering clients' expectations. My favorite situation was a client who had a horrible drug abuse/prostitution history and was living in a halfway house, yet she expected primary residence of her daughter. We eventually settled, giving her supervised visitation with the possibility of more time and unsupervised visitation if she made progress in her services, but now that I think about it given her history, maybe she was high when she told me she thought she could/should get the kid to live with her in the halfway house.

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I Want to Go to Law School pass/fail for free and call it Art. I’d have five years to pass all required courses of a normal law student.

The National Endowment gave money to folks to do______. I will better be able to help people with a law degree. I’m not saying what those men and women did isn’t Art. I’m saying I can go to law school in a way that is equally artistic, and if a function can be ascribed to Art, which it can even if it’s only to not be functional, then isn’t enabling a person to help others more effectively a more valid function?

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It cannot change the way it must to efficiently adapt to increasingly speeding up societies. What can be done to change the Law’s position with regard to Obsolescence? I mean this in the sense of Deconstructionist Cultural Hacking and I mean that in the sense of Art, but I mean all of it sincerely and with the respect of someone whose father was in the Army.

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That was the dumbest piece of pseudo-intellectualism I have ever read." --lawcorrection, Reddit

Thank you, lawcorrection. I needed that. I wrote looking also for your response. If you've had certain kinds of training and/or your intelligence manifests in particular ways what I wrote in that letter means one thing. It always also means other things too. All that I need to change to "make my point better" is style, and I do that by identifying audience. I knew that I was also writing to you, but you weren't my audience.

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If you consider yourself well-trained and intelligent, you might find this argument insulting: I can extract the meaning from what I read. All I can say to that is anyone who really believes it doesn't fully understand the implications for the act of reading of either poetry or the twentieth century.

It would be difficult for a serious and talented and especially a serious-talented-yet-unsuccessful attorney to value my point because it would require him to temporarily devalue his life. Few people are willing to do that just to read some crap on the internet particularly considering the way it was written. I'm not angry or bitter. And certainly not surprised. I don't care about your reaction in the way I would have to if I were trying to get your vote.

EvilJimmyCarter posted:

Eh, isn't this most clients in pretty much any area of law?

"Here's a lovely set of facts and I will be very difficult to work with, now go get me a million dollar settlement/not guilty verdict/sole custody/etc."

In family court I've gotten pretty used to lowering clients' expectations. My favorite situation was a client who had a horrible drug abuse/prostitution history and was living in a halfway house, yet she expected primary residence of her daughter. We eventually settled, giving her supervised visitation with the possibility of more time and unsupervised visitation if she made progress in her services, but now that I think about it given her history, maybe she was high when she told me she thought she could/should get the kid to live with her in the halfway house.

terrorist ambulance posted:

LSAT is easily, easily the most trivial and simple part of law school. get out while you can

GamingHyena posted:

Managing client expectations is so important I'm floored law schools ignore the topic. (Well, I suppose you'd have to have a faculty member who's actually seen a real live client out in the wild before they could teach the course). I'd say probably 75% of the amount of effort I put into any case involves managing the client's expectations and trying to form some sort of professional bond with them so they don't lie to me so much.

I've seen clients get life sentences who thanked their defense attorneys for their efforts afterwards because those attorneys bothered to connect with the client and demonstrate they gave a drat about them.

Boxman posted:

get high enough and you don't have to care about your grades!