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9031 | 65.25% |
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1191 | 8.60% |
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808 | 5.84% |
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460 | 3.32% |
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1603 | 11.58% |
| Waa |
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748 | 5.40% |
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I hope that Smash Bros. U will have a lot of content out of the box. I know for a lot of fans trying to remember hearing the Brawl disc load in your Wii for the first time is like trying to remember your toddler years but holy poo poo, barely half the characters and stages are available to you at first. To make things worse you had to do ridiculously grindy things or play through the whole ten hour campaign to unlock everyone/everything. I still have missing trophies and poo poo. It's definitely part of the fun, but drat. Keep 5, maybe 10% of the game a secret and have simple ways to unlock the characters. Not a massive barrier between you and half the game.
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Oct 11, 2012 07:13
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Bobnumerotres posted:I hope that Smash Bros. U will have a lot of content out of the box. I know for a lot of fans trying to remember hearing the Brawl disc load in your Wii for the first time is like trying to remember your toddler years but holy poo poo, not even half the characters and stages are available to you at first. I wouldn't have minded unlocking the characters if Subspace Emissary was actually fun. It just felt like some shovelware Kirby game, which is ironic given the creator.
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Oct 11, 2012 07:16
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They should have all characters and stages available at the start like every other normal fighting game, then load it up with tons of trophies, unlockables, art gallery stuff, costumes, and so on. Unlocking characters is the worst.
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Oct 11, 2012 07:15
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Policenaut posted:They should have all characters and stages available at the start like every other normal fighting game, then load it up with tons of trophies, unlockables, art gallery stuff, costumes, and so on. Unlocking characters is the worst. I'd love to see them turn Smash into the greatest "Game Collection" by having it where you have to play a level of that character's game to unlock it. So you gotta play an Arwing level to unlock Fox and Falco, play a Dreamland level to unlock Kirby and DeDeDe, play a Mario World stage to unlock Bowser and Yoshi, etc. I'm sure with a pretty decent engine that could be done. Plus they could create looping versions of the levels in case you're ever bored and just want to play a Star Fox stage forever for points (which would unlock a trophy or whatever). Maybe that's too much.
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Oct 11, 2012 07:18
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Policenaut posted:They should have all characters and stages available at the start like every other normal fighting game, then load it up with tons of trophies, unlockables, art gallery stuff, costumes, and so on. Unlocking characters is the worst. I'm not against unlockable characters. Just have it be more like MK where there's maybe 2~4 out of 30 characters you need to unlock, and you can unlock them in like the first hour or two of playing the game. I'd really miss "A challenger approaches" if they just gave you everything at the start. quote:I wouldn't have minded unlocking the characters if Subspace Emissary was actually fun. It just felt like some shovelware Kirby game, which is ironic given the creator. It's a blast in co-op on the higher difficulties...for the first three or four levels. Then it gets really annoying really fast and you set it to easy so you can just unlock Wolf and Sonic already. Some of the enemies were complete bullshit. I liked the Melee (Lord help me) design of like, dicking around with weak enemies from various game series (goombas, re-dead, etc.) and light platforming between various fights and boss battles. It was over quickly and ended with a secret awesome boss fight if you cleared it in good time with no continues. I don't know what they were thinking with Subspace. The only references to Nintendo games come from a couple of the bosses, everything else is weird kirby knock-off stuff. extremebuff fucked around with this message at 07:28 on Oct 11, 2012 |
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Oct 11, 2012 07:20
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Policenaut posted:They should have all characters and stages available at the start like every other normal fighting game, then load it up with tons of trophies, unlockables, art gallery stuff, costumes, and so on. Unlocking characters is the worst. *you know, if you were one of those poor unlucky sods who missed out on Earthbound. Ahehem. It would suck to be one of them. Not that I know this from experience.
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Oct 11, 2012 07:25
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Chaltab posted:Like, every character was spoiled before the game came out so it wasn't like in the previous games where you were like, "Who is Lucas?*" gently caress you Nintendo. "Hey Americans, I know you didn't get Mother 3, but the main character is in Smash Bros! Just as good right?"
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Oct 11, 2012 07:29
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In regards to other franchises on Wii U, here are a few things I'd like to see 3D Super Mario: A new, less plastic art style; new gameplay devices; maybe a new villain F-Zero: Super fast but not overcomplicated tracks; modify your machine and give it a paint job on the GamePad; online tournaments Star Fox: Make the characters look like the real puppets from the original box art; augmented reality for all range mode? Metroid: Creepy atmosphere; gadgets always avaiable on touch screen; aesthic of "photorealistism" Donkey Kong: 3D adventure; the poignant music of DKC; Dixie; minimal collection Zelda: Items usable directly from touch screen, others mapped to buttons; sci-fi elements; gigantic bosses Pokemon: Another Stadium, liked what I played of the first Kirby: Some psychadelic thing with twisted effects; transformations into vehicles Yoshi: Maybe a 2D platformer with puzzle elements What do you think?
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Oct 11, 2012 07:32
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Uhhhhhhh okay.
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Oct 11, 2012 07:39
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AngryCaterpillar posted:What do you think? I like everything except wanting to go the DK64 direction with the Donkey Kong series (just have Retro do another platform version) and sci-fi elements in Zelda (why!?). I also want to see them try a different paper style with Paper Mario. Like maybe something more Okami style with water colours?
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Oct 11, 2012 07:40
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Bobnumerotres posted:Uhhhhhhh okay. Just throwing everything out there in an attempt to stimulate some discussion on franchises that aren't Smash Bros. We might need a Smash Bros. thread just to stop it from resurfacing. Paper Jam Dipper posted:I like everything except wanting to go the DK64 direction with the Donkey Kong series (just have Retro do another platform version) and sci-fi elements in Zelda (why!?). Not the setting, just some influences like old fashioned robots and vehicles and poo poo. quote:I also want to see them try a different paper style with Paper Mario. Like maybe something more Okami style with water colours? If they wanted could just abandon paper and go for some other interesting visual motif. Wooden Block Mario. He reassembles himself into different objects as needed!
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Oct 11, 2012 07:51
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Chaltab posted:Unlocking characters in Brawl wasn't so great, but that was largely because the lack of discovery. Like, every character was spoiled before the game came out so it wasn't like in the previous games where you were like, "Who is Ness?*" or "Holy poo poo Ganondorf!" I heard that they weren't actually planning to reveal every character but they'd screwed up the scheduling for the website so they ended up revealing characters like Snake and Sonic just to maintain hype.
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Oct 11, 2012 08:17
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Snake was in the very first trailer, but the Sonic announcement was thrown in to soften the blow of the game being delayed.
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Oct 11, 2012 08:19
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Japantime was awesome, if you're on European time it would update at 9am; it was like an advent calendar for nerds.  Bring it back.
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Oct 11, 2012 08:49
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AngryCaterpillar posted:Just throwing everything out there in an attempt to stimulate some discussion on franchises that aren't Smash Bros. We might need a Smash Bros. thread just to stop it from resurfacing. Wouldn't be much of a point in one at this moment. There are no details out on the next Smash Bros other than Namco working on it.
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Oct 11, 2012 12:01
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Casting my vote for this one as well.
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Oct 11, 2012 14:07
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Condensed from that Iwata Asks: What's inside the Wii U? "The Wii U motherboard - elegant, spartan, minimalistic - and the MCM module, containing the miniscule CPU and the rather more meaty graphics core. Our impression is of a ruthlessly efficient design, with benefits for both Nintendo and consumers." I'm okay with this one. Saoshyant fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Oct 11, 2012 |
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Oct 11, 2012 14:27
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If they announced "Star Fox 64 II", I'd buy a Wii U. Pretty insane that they never made one for the Wii... flying with the nunchuck and shooting with the wiimote would have been perfect. I'm always vaguely interested in Smash Bros releases, but not sure where they'll go with the character roster. There aren't many more nintendo characters that will get people excited. Ridley and Waluigi would be great. If they could get rights to use Phoenix Wright and Professor Layton, that would rule.
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Oct 11, 2012 14:42
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Polo-Rican posted:I'm always vaguely interested in Smash Bros releases, but not sure where they'll go with the character roster. There aren't many more nintendo characters that will get people excited. Ridley and Waluigi would be great. They NEED to fill up the Metroid roster more. Dark Samus and Ridley are two obvious inclusions, and they also need to update Samus' moveset and appearance. Three games in and she's still in her Super Metroid Varia Suit.
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Oct 11, 2012 14:51
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TaurusOxford posted:They NEED to fill up the Metroid roster more. Dark Samus and Ridley are two obvious inclusions, and they also need to update Samus' moveset and appearance. Three games in and she's still in her Super Metroid Varia Suit. So what, we should put her in the Other M Gravity Suit now? It would be cool to see the PED and Light suits as alternatives, I guess.
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Oct 11, 2012 15:02
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"Dark" versions of characters are almost always really lazy cop outs for character slots, just make them alternate costumes or something. Nintendo has quite a few new friends they can play around with for a new Smash game though. Policenaut fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Oct 11, 2012 |
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Oct 11, 2012 15:17
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Artix74 posted:So what, we should put her in the Other M Gravity Suit now? It would be cool to see the PED and Light suits as alternatives, I guess. I'd prefer her Echoes/Corruption Varia Suit actually. I'm not holding my breath for Nintendo to give us proper alternate costumes for each character. quote:"Dark" versions of characters are almost always really lazy cop outs for character slots, just make them alternate costumes or something. Nobody complains when Akuma keeps getting into Street Fighter/Marvel games despite Ryu already being there.
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Oct 11, 2012 15:24
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TaurusOxford posted:Nobody complains when Akuma keeps getting into Street Fighter/Marvel games despite Ryu already being there. Yeah I don't mind clones, and Brawl did a lot to divide clones. Different animations and particles, some moves are entirely changed. Ganondorf is almost nothing like Cpt. Falcon, wolf almost nothing like Fox, etc. Clones are interesting to me. "Hey what would this character be like if he were more air and speed focused?" or "What would this char. be like if they were heavy and hard hitting?" etc., then they went the extra distance in Brawl and gave them distinct animations with a lot of personality.
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Oct 11, 2012 15:57
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TaurusOxford posted:Nobody complains when Akuma keeps getting into Street Fighter/Marvel games despite Ryu already being there. Except Akuma and Ryu are actually different dudes with more differing movesets? Ryu and Ken would be a more apt comparison.
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Oct 11, 2012 16:15
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Policenaut posted:Except Akuma and Ryu are actually different dudes? Ryu and Ken would be a more apt comparison. Samus and Dark Samus aren't? It's not Dark Samus' fault you can't be bothered to remember enough about Echoes/Corruption to give Dark Samus a different moveset/playstyle to Samus.
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Oct 11, 2012 16:16
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TaurusOxford posted:Samus and Dark Samus aren't? It's not Dark Samus' fault you can't be bothered to remember enough about Echoes/Corruption to give Dark Samus a different moveset/playstyle to Samus. Well poo poo, alright. I haven't played any Prime game beside 1 in years so I'll go with you on that.
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Oct 11, 2012 16:18
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For Metroid I'd love to see Anthony Higgs or Armstrong Houston. Hades from Kid Icarus would be fantastic. Riki from Xenoblade. Also, instead of the classic beam sword, you get the Monado.
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Oct 11, 2012 16:56
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Chaltab posted:Riki from Xenoblade. Also, instead of the classic beam sword, you get the Monado. I'd prefer Reyn because his cockiness after a fight is always awesome.
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Oct 11, 2012 16:58
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I'd like the Black Knight from Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance. I like the slow devastating hitters.
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Oct 11, 2012 17:09
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Chaltab posted:Hades from Kid Icarus would be fantastic. Hades' body as a stage.
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Oct 11, 2012 17:20
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Personally, I think maybe a Monster Hunter representative might be fun. Like a Felyne! Speaking of Monster Hunter, enjoy this new Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Wii U/3DS trailer! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wkQGEpRgL0
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Oct 11, 2012 18:09
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Policenaut posted:Personally, I think maybe a Monster Hunter representative might be fun. Like a Felyne! Ah gently caress I watched this on the bus and now I have to awkwardly hide my erection.
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Oct 11, 2012 18:21
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Chaltab posted:For Metroid I'd love to see Anthony Higgs or Armstrong Houston.
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Oct 11, 2012 18:35
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TEKKEN BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALL!!! The hypest of all Tekken mini-games: Tekken Ball, returns as an exclusive to the Wii U version of Tekken Tag Tournament 2.
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Oct 11, 2012 18:42
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I only have 2 wishes for the next Smash Bros. 1. A sequel to Subspace Emissary 2. loving Travis Touchdown
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Oct 11, 2012 18:59
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Policenaut posted:Except Akuma and Ryu are actually different dudes with more differing movesets? Ryu and Ken would be a more apt comparison. Hell, even Ryu and Ken haven't been all that similar since Super Street Fighter II, and have gotten even more different with every successive game.
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Oct 11, 2012 19:10
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Rhythm Heaven and Punch Out stages. Litle Mac and Batman playable.
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Oct 11, 2012 19:17
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What about a Mii character. Give it a distinct skillset and pick your Mii. It could throw wiimotes, use nunchucks as nunchucks! Something like that?
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Oct 11, 2012 19:23
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Bombadilillo posted:What about a Mii character. Give it a distinct skillset and pick your Mii. I was actually surprised when they didn't include Miis in Brawl. Maybe its attacks could be based on Wii Fit/Sports (Resort) activities?
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Oct 11, 2012 19:27
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Rake Arms posted:I was actually surprised when they didn't include Miis in Brawl. Maybe its attacks could be based on Wii Fit/Sports (Resort) activities? There you go, thats a good idea for it using ranged weapons. A bowling ball attack perhaps. It might get wonky with reach and height differences though.
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Oct 11, 2012 19:32
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