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Does anybody have any recommendations for a good history of beer book? I already own the Oxford Companion and Brewmaster's Table.
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Bag of Sun Chips posted:Does anybody have any recommendations for a good history of beer book? I already own the Oxford Companion and Brewmaster's Table. They're written for homebrewers and probably geekier than you want, but both Radical Brewing and Designing Great Beers have lengthy sections on beer history. DGB in particular goes into great depth about the origins, traditions and defining traits of many different styles. I wouldn't recommend anyone buy it unless you're looking to actually brew yourself but it might be worth seeing if you can get them through your local library.
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Oct 16, 2012 04:24
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funkybottoms posted:i need to drink more and post less, actually (or possibly not spend so much time on the computer while at work) Same.
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Oct 16, 2012 05:05
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Docjowles posted:They're written for homebrewers and probably geekier than you want, but both Radical Brewing and Designing Great Beers have lengthy sections on beer history. DGB in particular goes into great depth about the origins, traditions and defining traits of many different styles. I wouldn't recommend anyone buy it unless you're looking to actually brew yourself but it might be worth seeing if you can get them through your local library. I'd recommend Radical Brewing over Designing Great Beers because DGB is bone dry about its telling and I think Radical Brewing could theoretically appeal to even a non-homebrewer.
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Oct 16, 2012 05:44
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Midorka posted:What makes New Jersey a bullshit state? Are you just reiterating such old stereotype crud that most people do, or are you talking from experience from being in North Jersey? Because I can understand either of those points since you'd either be brainwashed to think NJ sucks, or you'd have a skewed perception since North Jersey blows. Either way, you're wrong. New Jersey has it's problems and downfalls, like every state, but none of those you would possibly know about unless you lived here such as high property taxes, high car insurance, rear end in a top hat drivers, and etc. And BTW all pre-conceived bullshit you hear about New Jersey is based off the North side, not Southern Jersey. I lived in NJ in roughly the same area as you for years, and spent a whole lot of time going to various towns, townships, cities, and boroughs all around that entire belt of NJ. There are things about it that are charming. There are some very decent bottle shops. But on the whole, NJ is really a bit crap. It stands out the most when you drive to another state (not NYC or Phil) and notice how much safer the drivers are, and how even people being dumbasses in rest stops are more polite, on average, than you are used to. The bottle shop you want in Philadelphia is a bodega grocery a few blocks east of Jose Pistolas and Monks. I'll find you the name/address in a sec. e: its the Foodery on 10th and Pine. And holy poo poo did you know you can go inside of places on googlemaps now? Arnold of Soissons fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Oct 16, 2012 |
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Oct 16, 2012 07:47
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Arnold of Soissons posted:I lived in NJ in roughly the same area as you for years, and spent a whole lot of time going to various towns, townships, cities, and boroughs all around that entire belt of NJ. There are things about it that are charming. There are some very decent bottle shops. But on the whole, NJ is really a bit crap. It stands out the most when you drive to another state (not NYC or Phil) and notice how much safer the drivers are, and how even people being dumbasses in rest stops are more polite, on average, than you are used to. Being from Jersey, I truly think every state has the worst drivers, heh.
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Oct 16, 2012 08:02
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@joinstarfleetdental, I've been to the Foodery, it has a great but overpriced selection and I can't get a 6 pack. Are there any stores in the Philly area where I can buy a 6 pack instead of a case or a single? Also my store got 3 cases of New Jersey's 20 for BCS so I was able to snag a 4 pack. I can't wait to try this then age the other 3. The process to make this intrigues me very much, thanks to the GI brewer for sharing.
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Oct 16, 2012 13:02
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Recommendations for go-to 3 Floyds beers, both from tap and/or bottled? I'm going to Chicago this weekend and realized I've never had anything they brew.
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Oct 16, 2012 14:39
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The SARS Volta posted:Recommendations for go-to 3 Floyds beers, both from tap and/or bottled? I'm going to Chicago this weekend and realized I've never had anything they brew. You better like hops... Dreadnaught and Arctic Panzer Wolf are big, hoppy, and awesome. Someone will pipe up with Zombie Dust, but I greatly prefer the other two. In fact, I still prefer Alpha King to ZD. Most of their seasonals are good but not great, in my opinion, but nothing they do is bad.
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Oct 16, 2012 14:56
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Details on Cantillion's Zwanze Day are out. Saturday December 1. Some new locations available this year, including Denver.quote:America - USA :
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Oct 16, 2012 15:11
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danbanana posted:You better like hops... Agree. Three Floyds is probably the world's most overhyped brewery, and nearly everything they make has too many drat hops. Honestly though, I'd recommend you try at least all of their year-rounds - Robert The Bruce is still among my favourites though I don't drink it as often as I used to.
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Oct 16, 2012 15:15
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Docjowles posted:Details on Cantillion's Zwanze Day are out. Saturday December 1. Some new locations available this year, including Denver. I will definitely be at Monk's on Dec. 1st. It will definitely be a shitshow.
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Oct 16, 2012 15:21
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crazyfish posted:Agree. Three Floyds is probably the world's most overhyped brewery, and nearly everything they make has too many drat hops. Honestly though, I'd recommend you try at least all of their year-rounds - Robert The Bruce is still among my favourites though I don't drink it as often as I used to. Thanks guys. I didn't want to ask something as obtuse as "GOING TO CHICAGO, WHAT SHOULD I DRINK?"  but 3F was the first to come to mind.There's an off-chance I'll be at the Map Room at some point but might not have much of a chance to try new stuff anyway. Might make a Binny's run if we're still in town when it opens on Sunday, though.
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Oct 16, 2012 15:25
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Docjowles posted:Details on Cantillion's Zwanze Day are out. Saturday December 1. Some new locations available this year, including Denver. I would definitely make the drive down to Chicago that day depending on what they would offer and how good my chances would be of not having to fight people to drink beer or stand in lines for hours.
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Oct 16, 2012 15:33
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Sirotan posted:I would definitely make the drive down to Chicago that day depending on what they would offer and how good my chances would be of not having to fight people to drink beer or stand in lines for hours. Yeah, WLV's site is saying details coming soon. If it's not a shitshow, I'm interested.
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Oct 16, 2012 16:25
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They have sixpack discounts whenever you buy six and if you want six all the same you just loving take five more off the shelf and they have piles of sixpack holders everywhere and  .Docjowles posted:Details on Cantillion's Zwanze Day are out. Saturday December 1. Some new locations available this year, including Denver. Europe : Belgium - Brussels : Moeder Lambic Fontainas Planning my calendar around it!
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Oct 16, 2012 17:05
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Arnold of Soissons posted:They have sixpack discounts whenever you buy six and if you want six all the same you just loving take five more off the shelf and they have piles of sixpack holders everywhere and I don't know why you're being aggressive about it, I am asking a legitimate question. I've only been there once and the only thing I remember about it is that the prices are ridiculously high, $20 for an Alesmith Speedway Stout. Is it completely illegal for a single store to offer singles, 6 packs, and cases in PA, as in New Jersey?
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Oct 16, 2012 17:41
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The SARS Volta posted:Recommendations for go-to 3 Floyds beers, both from tap and/or bottled? I'm going to Chicago this weekend and realized I've never had anything they brew. I just had Zombie Dust but I really liked it other than that Robert the Bruce is good, my friend really loving loves Gumballhead but I would categorize it as "good but not great." Their Moloko Milk Stout is also supposed to be pretty tasty.Non Three Floyds, you should check out Two Brothers if they don't have it by you. Their Heavy Handed IPA is a pretty tasty seasonal. Their Ebel's Weiss wheat beer is really loving good, imo. They have a brewpub out in the western suburbs that I was at a month or two ago, and the food is very reasonably priced, as is the beer. Plus, the tour is free and they give you three free samplers just for going on the tour. I've never been to Half Acre, and have only had their Daisy Cutter from a can before, but it's really tasty, and again, if it's not distributed to where you're from, I would try it. I am sure that some other Chicagoons can give you some other recommendations.
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Oct 16, 2012 17:45
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The SARS Volta posted:Thanks guys. I didn't want to ask something as obtuse as "GOING TO CHICAGO, WHAT SHOULD I DRINK?" Do yourself a favor and go to Haymarket Brewery. The stuff they brew is awesome and they have guest taps/bottles of 3F and other awesome midwest stuff.
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Oct 16, 2012 19:00
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Midorka posted:Is it completely illegal for a single store to offer singles, 6 packs, and cases in PA, as in New Jersey? Yeah, pretty much. You're right about the Foodery's prices being highway robbery, though. There is a new bottle shop opening in Fishtown though, so hopefully that will introduce a little bit of healthy competition.
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Oct 16, 2012 19:47
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I've only been to the Foodery once and they didn't put prices on any of their loving beers, so I only found out at the counter they were sky high. Infuriating.
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Oct 16, 2012 19:56
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Oh gosh the first Zwanze Day I'm reasonably close to  I wish I could goto the Crooked Stave for it because that venue rocks, doubly so for otherwise being in a total ghetto.Sorry for the dumb question but is there anything in particular I have to sign up for beforehand or do I just show up and wade through the crowd?
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Oct 16, 2012 20:03
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RiggenBlaque posted:I've only been to the Foodery once and they didn't put prices on any of their loving beers, so I only found out at the counter they were sky high. Infuriating. They have a catalog with prices in the back, but it's always extremely out of date.
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Oct 16, 2012 20:13
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Modern Automaton posted:Do yourself a favor and go to Haymarket Brewery. The stuff they brew is awesome and they have guest taps/bottles of 3F and other awesome midwest stuff. Seconding this, Mathias is amazing, but all of their Belgian IPAs are exceptional.
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Oct 16, 2012 20:40
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SUPER HASSLER posted:Oh gosh the first Zwanze Day I'm reasonably close to You should check ahead on what is going on. Call the bar, follow their social media etc. My friends who made the drive to Avenue Pub last year said a line had formed for tickets to allocate the beer beforehand. Would suck to show up for nothing. e: http://lushtastic.com/2011/09/19/cantillon-zwanze-day-2011/ air- fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Oct 16, 2012 |
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Oct 16, 2012 21:36
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SUPER HASSLER posted:Oh gosh the first Zwanze Day I'm reasonably close to Different places do it differently. I was at Russian River for last year's, and basically they just gave a ticket to everyone who happened to be waiting in line when they opened that day which allowed them to buy the small tasting size (they only got one 5gal keg, I think).
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Oct 16, 2012 22:06
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danbanana posted:You better like hops... Agree. I'm not a huge fan of ZD, maybe it's the Citra, I don't know. Alpha King, Gumballhead, and anything they make is good. Wasn't a huge fan of Arctic Panzer Wolf, but I really want to try Dreadnaught.
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Oct 16, 2012 22:53
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This isn't really a beer post except to say that there is a Bell's event at the biggest beer bar in town. I am not there. But I have now learned via Twitter that LeVar Burton is there. Could have gotten beer and met Geordi. And now I have neither. :[
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Oct 16, 2012 23:18
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Sirotan posted:This isn't really a beer post except to say that there is a Bell's event at the biggest beer bar in town. I am not there. But I have now learned via Twitter that LeVar Burton is there. Bell's Black Note is delicious, but don't take my word for it...
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Oct 16, 2012 23:52
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funkybottoms posted:Bell's Black Note is delicious, but don't take my word for it... 
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Oct 17, 2012 00:35
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Mikey Purp posted:This reminds me that I have a Black Butte XXIII that I've been sitting on. Does this stuff improve with age? GreenBuckanneer posted:Too rough, too bitter. Since we're on the subject of Joseph James anyhow I'll throw in a little more narrative. Everyone likes small brewery business chat, right? They went through an ownership change recently due to health problems with the original owner. During that it wasn't clear whether they'd stay in business, so their head brewer, Alex Graham, left to take an open marketing position at Tenaya Creek, another local brewery. There haven't been any formal announcements about who's replacing Alex yet, but I have it on good authority it's someone with very strong IPA experience. Expect the Hop Box formula to change again, for the (much) better. In the meantime, Joseph James is releasing some of Alex's last beers. Their Oktoberfest is on-point for the style, delicious and sessionable. Tomorrow they release the barrel aged RIS. I got a taste of that during a tour, and I have to say it might be Alex's best work. Him marketing for Tenaya Creek is wasted potential approximately on par with Leonardo da Vinci doing an ad campaign for a webcomic. Hopefully once they get their expansion finished Tenaya Creek can set him loose on the brewing side again.
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Oct 17, 2012 00:36
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Grabbed the last Jolly Pumpkin bomber at my local; thanks for the recommendations! Boulevard Stingo is fantastic, and I realized this just in time for the neighborhood bar to rotate it off their tap. drat my Oktoberfest addiction.  
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Oct 17, 2012 01:26
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Got paid today so I marched down to the bottle shop and bought a few things to stock the fridge with. Chief among them is Collage which is a collaboration between Deschutes n Hair of the Dog. It is a mix of...oh god it's too complexquote:The Dissident – A Flanders style brown ale 100% aged in a Domaine Drouhin French Pinot Noir barrel. 30 IBU’s, 10.5% ABV At $10 for a 12er I hope it's pretty good. (No Dissident yet  )
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Oct 17, 2012 01:36
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SUPER HASSLER posted:Collage...At $10 for a 12er I hope it's pretty good. This was the last thing we opened at a recent bottle share. After a lot of other things, it's hard to really judge but I remember saying I liked straight Adam more than it. I haven't had Dissident or Stoic.
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Oct 17, 2012 01:44
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SUPER HASSLER posted:Got paid today so I marched down to the bottle shop and bought a few things to stock the fridge with. Chief among them is Collage which is a collaboration between Deschutes n Hair of the Dog. It is a mix of...oh god it's too complex Someone sent me a bottle of it in a trade forever ago and I just recently opened it on a whim. Was really sad when it was gone and wish I had received more than one bottle. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
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Oct 17, 2012 01:59
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If you're sitting on a bottle of Stone 16th Anniversary IPA, I'd recommend moving it into the 'age for kicks and see what happens' pile. I opened a bottle last night that had been in the fridge for a couple of weeks, and was really disappointed - the hops had fallen out of it, and the lemon was turning astringent. Not a pleasant experience, which is too bad since Stone 15th was still good even almost a year later when I had it.
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Oct 17, 2012 02:38
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Podima posted:If you're sitting on a bottle of Stone 16th Anniversary IPA, I'd recommend moving it into the 'age for kicks and see what happens' pile. I opened a bottle last night that had been in the fridge for a couple of weeks, and was really disappointed - the hops had fallen out of it, and the lemon was turning astringent. Not a pleasant experience, which is too bad since Stone 15th was still good even almost a year later when I had it. I thought this beer was utter poo poo and turned me off of ever buying another Stone product. Just horrendous!
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Oct 17, 2012 02:57
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Podima posted:If you're sitting on a bottle of Stone 16th Anniversary IPA, I'd recommend moving it into the 'age for kicks and see what happens' pile. I opened a bottle last night that had been in the fridge for a couple of weeks, and was really disappointed - the hops had fallen out of it, and the lemon was turning astringent. Not a pleasant experience, which is too bad since Stone 15th was still good even almost a year later when I had it. Damnit, I have been sitting on this for a while, maybe 6 weeks? and was going to share it with my beer loving uncle at Thanksgiving.
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Oct 17, 2012 03:08
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It'd be better for your Bath and Body Works-enjoying aunt anyway.
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Podima posted:If you're sitting on a bottle of Stone 16th Anniversary IPA, I'd recommend moving it into the 'age for kicks and see what happens' pile. I opened a bottle last night that had been in the fridge for a couple of weeks, and was really disappointed - the hops had fallen out of it, and the lemon was turning astringent. Not a pleasant experience, which is too bad since Stone 15th was still good even almost a year later when I had it. I had it on draft and I didn't think it was very good at all, and certainly wouldn't have been worth aging.
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