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Mornacale posted:Some notables not on my 28-man: C 1990 Brian Harper (forgot to mention him with my catchers earlier), 1B 1968 Norm Cash, 3B 1968 Eddie Matthews, LF 1968 Willie Horton, LF 2004 Jason Bay, SP 1964 Robin Roberts, SP 1990 Kevin Tapani, RP 1990 Terry Leach. What would you want for Mathews?
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Better question: Who do you have on your 28 man that you can't justify ancient Eddie Mathews as a backup hand on third?
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The Goog posted:My Mooglies have 1934 Lloyd Brown, who did a pretty good job for me in Super League I. If that doesn't tickle your fancy, the Rated R Superstars have 2006 Scott Downs or 2001 John Rocker, either of which can be yours in exchange for Benoit. Benoit for Downs sounds like a deal.
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Mornacale posted:I'm pretty concerned about giving up that much for a dude with a significant injury risk. My roster is a little goofy right now because I want to use the EL to see what I've got; for the real league I expect Hafey to be my everyday LF (and backup CF), and Kaline to at least platoon at 1B in addition to backup up RF. You're particularly underestimating Hafey, I think: he's only 29 in that season, he has an elite contact bat with good power and speed, and he can play okay defense anywhere in the OF (his OVR actually rises a little if you move him to CF). Senerio posted:Better question: Who do you have on your 28 man that you can't justify ancient Eddie Mathews as a backup hand on third?
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Dynamo League Week 14 Injury Report No New Champions...which means that Week 15 will feature a TRIPLE Unification Series Second City Saints Intercontinental Champions vs. Fukuoka Finger-Bangers European Champions United States Champions Barrow Daydreamers Frank Thomas (1B) (Rooted for Manchester United in wrong pub) - 33 days Joe Wood (SP) (My apologies, last update I intimated that Barrow is in Lancashire, when, in fact, it is in Cumbria. As penance, I will break Joe Wood's arm. That's how penance works, right?) - 13 days Jon Matlack (SP) (That's not how penance works? Let me try that again.) - 31 days Burma Imperialists Danny Tartabull (RF) (You listen and you listen good. This is a warning. If you don't start Matt Williams at shortstop, I'm going to break every other player even theoretically capable of playing shortstop on your team. Capice?) - 90 days Polyarny Postmodernists Jesse Orosco (RP) (Asked the unknowable question that plagues all mankind) - 18 days Rochester Generics Luis Tiant (SP) (The Plague of Rochester) - 15 days
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drat it Bearers, I want that Craig Biggio, one of your slack-jawed owners show up and deal him to me.
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Smasher Dynamo posted:Burma Imperialists Fine, you big bully. Put Eddie Collins back at second and start Matt Williams at short. Entertaining offers for shortstops with a pulse; I can pay in corner outfielders, mostly. Please don't offer me org filler. I'm looking forward to the All-Star series! oldskool posted:drat it Bearers, I want that Craig Biggio, one of your slack-jawed owners show up and deal him to me. Why are we trading you our starting second baseman? You have LaJoie there? I'm not sure he can play catcher full-time anymore if that's your plan.
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Viscount Slim posted:Why are we trading you our starting second baseman? You have LaJoie there? I'm not sure he can play catcher full-time anymore if that's your plan. Lajoie's a deadballer, which means his defense is godawful. I can jam him at first base and put Biggio at second and greatly improve my defense with essentially a lateral move offensively because Rusty Staub's playing 1B due to a bunch of injuries I never bothered to re-update my lineup for after they concluded.
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Smasher Dynamo posted:Barrow Daydreamers gently caress. All three down. Gamble, Kern, and '07 Dunn up. McGriff in at 1B - I was going to platoon them anyway so I can deal with the Thomas injury. As for the pitching, well, the only thing I can do is a four-man rotation of Maddux-Glavine-Jenkins-Vance. Kern takes over at "long relief" again, and I hope he never gets used, again. Somebody trade me pitching before I get forced to turn into the Radbourns! Broken Frank Thomas is officially on the block to facilitate this - Expansion Cup owners, this is your chance to get a very very good 1B at a non-extortionate cost. Edit: Sliders need adjusting, too. Pitch on short rest to -5, pitch through trouble and high pitch counts to -3. That's a lot of work for a pretty bad bullpen, but there's no real alternative. Ginge fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Oct 20, 2012 |
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 Mood: nervous excitement Song: "Where Do You Think You're Going" by Dire Straits kw0134 posted:Well I could toss in a 1993 Lenny Dykstra for your backup concerns. Whew, big moves afoot with the Bloggers. Rumors are flying that GM Mornacale has formally offered 1932 Chick Hafey and 1968 Al Kaline to the Rochester Generics for 1993 Lenny Dykstra and 1999 Barry Bonds. Could be drastic changes in team composition coming down the pike. To be honest, I'm not sure how much I can comment on this move. I see the name of Sir Barrold up there, glowing with an unearthly light, and I just start slavering and moaning. To me, any deal that involves a lot of slavering gets an automatic A+, so long as it's not my GM doing it!
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kw0134 posted:Well, I'd like to take Kaline out for a spin, and Hafey might be an interesting choice for CF given that he was supposedly half blind (and Bill James thinks he was a bad joke of a HoF selection). Both mens' best days are behind them and it doesn't seem like you're even starting either of them so perhaps both for Bonds?  Before you agree to the above, I'll offer you Larry walker and Jim Rice to instead if you'd like. Larry walker is in his MVP season and Rice is 1986. Same guys coming back.
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kw0134 posted:I've considered your offer and I'll decline on the basis that Walker's nice but Rice is taking a slide on the downward curve and Hafey/Kaline have better upside. - is there another piece we could do instead of rice?
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Super-League VII All-Star Series! This time it really, really, really counts!  : The All-Star Series, one of the proudest Super-League traditions- : Isn't this the first time you're doing this?: I'm looking prospectively. Either way, this series will determine whether or not the DH rule will be in effect for the Super-League finals. If the Smasher League wins, the DH rules will be in play, if not, then those DHs will spend the finals stuck fast to the bench, while CthulhuDreams fumes over his misfortune.: So...you're assuming the Cultists win the Smasher League?: The Phoenixes are mediocre, the Bobbleheads routinely start two players who hit under the Mendoza line, and the W's feature an erratic 19 year-old knuckleballer as their middle reliever.: Hey, I'm not erratic!: And now let's introduce the Super-League VII all-stars. First up, the visiting Dynamo League-: I thought you said they had home-field advantage.: I lied. Dynamo League All-Stars * - Denotes Starter  SP: Cliff Lee  SP: Greg Maddux  2B: Eddie Collins* CF: Jim Edmonds*  IF: Honus Wagner  C: Johnny Bench*  RP: Billy Wagner IF: Nap Lajoie  C: Yogi Berra LF/DH: Ted Williams RP: Alfredo Aceves  OF: Willie Mays LF: Rickey Henderson*  RP: Mariano Rivera  SP: Noodles the Pitcher  1B: Mark McGwire* SP: Smokey Joe Wood*  SS: Alex Rodriguez*  OF: Tony Gwynn  SP: Satchel Paige RF: Frank Robinson* DH: Frank Thomas*  RP: Pedro Martinez 3B: Eddie Mathews*  SP: Juan Marichal : And asked about this team, Marauder has stated that he could care less about whether the Dynamo League wins this series, as he would likely be better off having the DH rule in effect during the Finals. : Good to see he's taking this seriously. And now the Smasher League All-Stars... Smasher League All-Stars * - Denotes Starter  SP: Curt Schilling SS: Derek Jeter*  SP: Thornton Lee  2B: Rogers Hornsby*  BN: Mike Piazza  SP: Cliff Lee  C: Josh Gibson*  SP: Tom Glavine  LR: Roger Clemens BN: Eddie Collins CF: Joe DiMaggio* RF: Hank Aaron*  SU: Robb Nen SR: Francisco Rodriguez  BN: Miguel Cabrera  CL: Sergio Romo LF: Zack Wheat*  BN: Vladimir Guerrero 3B: Wade Boggs*  SR: Joakim Soria DH: Stan Musial* SP: Christy Mathewson*  1B: John Olerud*  BN: Tris Speaker MR: Tom Henke; Vice City Goose Eggs : And I talked with Mark Grace before the game, and he had been drinking, and it was kind of downhill from there.: Awesome. Okay, we're almost ready to begin, but before we do, the Generics-Bloggers trade is approved, so Cthulhu, you can stop trying to steal Bonds. : Dynamo League will take Game 1, as a gutsy steal of third base by Jim Edmonds in the 10th set up a sacrifice fly from Yogi Berra.: And that's rough for the Smashers, they were hoping that Robb Nen could leave the troubles in Madison behind and pitch well in this environment, but it didn't pan out.: And I'm just getting word that, according to Marauder, Frank Thomas has accidentally fallen down an elevator shaft and onto a knife and will miss the rest of the series. The Bangers' Ted Williams will take his place in the lineup. : And the Dynamos take a 2-0 series lead as their Cliff Lee beats the Smasher League Cliff Lee.: The Smasher League Cliff Lee struck out eleven, but that was all erased in a second when he gave up a three-run home run to Eddie Mathews in the bottom of the eighth.: And some more news is coming in. Marauder has just told me that Eddie Mathews was so excited by his heroics that he's decided to throw himself in front of a speeding truck, and he'll miss a couple of games.: Wow, that is some tough luck for the Dynamo League team. I mean, what are the odds that two of their starters would go down in mysterious accidents in as many games. It's kind of funny, really, because before the series started, Marauder was telling me that he really wanted Williams and Wagner in his starting lineup and was willing to take 'extreme measures' to make that happen. Lucky that these injuries happened so he didn't have to, eh, Smasher? : And the Dynamo League will take a 3-0 lead, as Maddux is better than Glavine, just as he was in real life. : And the confluence of The Thornton Lee's and Satchel Paige's mystical energy creates a zone of horror, and this 12-11 win is the result.: Looks like the Smasher League has new life. : And it looks like Frank Thomas has somehow recovered from his injuries to return to his lineup, infuriating Marauder. : And this series is over! The Dynamo League mounts a desperate five-run rally in the ninth and tenth winning to take the lead, and there will be no DH in the Super-League Finals.: And you hate to second-guess an owner, but Sergio Romo was probably not the right choice as the closer for the Smasher League. There was a couple of Mariano Riveras available to blakelmenakle, also a couple of Robb Nens, there were Tom Henkes, but blakel went with Sergio Romo.: Yeah, that was pretty terrible. And that will wrap it up for us here today. Regular updates resume tomorrow!
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No changes to the roster except replacing the old blood with the new. Lineup changes like so: No DH, vs RHP 2B George Grantham RF Babe Herman CF Kirby Puckett LF Barry Bonds 1B Kent Hrbek SS Luis Aparicio 3B Brooks Robinson STARTING PITCHER C Ernie Lombardi No DH, vs LHP C Bill Freehan LF Barry Bonds 3B Brooks Robinson RF Babe Herman CF Kirby Puckett 1B Craig Wilson 2B Freddy Sanchez STARTING PITCHER SS Luis Aparicio DH, vs RHP 2B George Grantham RF Babe Herman LF Boog Powell DH Barry Bonds 1B Kent Hrbek CF Kirby Puckett 3B Brooks Robinson SS Luis Aparicio C Ernie Lombardi DH, vs LHP C Bill Freehan LF Barry Bonds DH Ernie Lombardi RF Babe Herman CF Kirby Puckett 3B Brooks Robinson 1B Craig Wilson 2B Freddy Sanchez SS Luis Aparicio Other items! - Would it be possible to flip my stadium, so the shorter porch is in RF? - Stealing Bases to -1
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Mooseontheloose posted:Benoit for Downs sounds like a deal. As 20% owner of the Superstars, I approve. I'll try to get the other guys to approve as quickly as possible.
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Luna Landers Hey, our pitchers are healthy! Let's celebrate by jettisoning Williamson and giving Maddux a couple weeks in AAA to think about what he's done. I could probably use him in middle relief, but I want to keep him stretched out for when Richard falls back to earth. SP Martinez SP Clemens SP Feller SP Richard SP Reuschel CL Rivera SU Henke SR Nathan SR Lefferts MR Foulke LR Langford
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EC Update Rosters have been entered for the: Air Raids, Arguments, Commies, Elephants, and Barons. Next up are the Smokers, Surf, Dickshots, Mashers, and Woodchucks. This was my list of teams as of today, any owners that have remaining teams that I have not just listed need to have their final rosters/sliders posted in this thread, or if you have done so and I missed your team (which is definitely possible), please link me to your roster post so I can get the information imported. Remember, the deadline is Sunday night/Monday morning, at 12 AM EST.
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cbx posted:EC Update Looks like you missed the Spooners, here's the post.
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I approve the Benoit for Downs deal for the Superstars. Was going to offer Viscount Howard Johnson for a bucket of balls. Then I realized he'd probably throw each of those balls at my head so I'll stay away from that.
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Why is there a Benoit for Downs deal? So the Ted Sox can get a left-hander? Actually, by Super-League standards, that's eminently sensible. Trade Approved. e: cbx, what rosters don't you have?
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cbx posted:EC Update Here's the post for the Failures: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3499603&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=37#post408666713
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For the Superstars, Benoit replaces Brandon League on the roster. New bullpen setup: LR Jason Motte MR Tug McGraw SR Joaquin Benoit SR Jesse Orosco SU Chris Perez CL BJ Ryan
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cbx posted:EC Update Looks like you've missed the Bloggers. My original post is here, but since then I've made a trade and consequently some changes (to lineup, stadium, and strategy).
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Hey, someone from the Superstars other than Goog get at me. Or anybody else with an interest in 1968 Norm Cash, really. e: @Mornacale on twitter, Mornacale on AIM, also on IRC Mornacale fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Oct 21, 2012 |
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Thanks, everyone. I should have all the rosters inputted by tomorrow evening and the EC should be ready to go within a day or so!
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cbx posted:Thanks, everyone. I should have all the rosters inputted by tomorrow evening and the EC should be ready to go within a day or so! Question: when will our rosters lock, such that players we trade for can be dumped in AAA without taking someone else off the roster?
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