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coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY
38 Studios, that failed Rhode Island MMO company founded by a baseball player, is auctioning off 60 Aeron chairs tomorrow if anyone's interested. Can bid online too.

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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

I know that for the most part the chairs that you can buy from the office supply stores (staples OD ext) are pretty much poo poo but I've been using this Tempur-Pedic chair for a little over 2 months now and I love it. About 2 years ago I bought an Aeron off CL for $300 hoping that it would be a chair that lasted me as many years as the one from costco that I was replacing it with but after about 3 months it just wasn't comfortable. Don't get me wrong it is a great chair but I just don't care for the mesh much.

http://www.staples.com/Tempur-Pedic-TP4000-Ergonomic-Fabric-Mid-Back-Task-Chair-Black/product-nr_324022

Now this chair is perfect for me it has enough adjustments to make it fit me just right and the foam in the seat and back are really quite awesome. I've sat in the chair for 8+ hours and it feels worlds better then the Aeron I had. If you are in the market for a fabric foam chair I highly suggest taking a look at it.

titaniumone
Jun 10, 2001

cliffy posted:

What is everyone's opinion on the Embody? I just saw one pop up on my local craigslist for ~$500. I don't have any experience sitting in one. I currently have an Aeron which is mostly comfortable, and I like it, but extended periods can still be detrimental for my back.

I understand that sitting is not good for long periods anyway, but life as a programmer dictates some sedentary time.

Should I snatch it up? I'll definitely sit in it before making a purchase, but it's difficult to gauge the experience without sitting in it for long periods.

I have an Aeron at work, and used to have an Aeron at home. I switched to an Embody at home and I find it to be a million times more comfortable. It's better overall in my opinion, especially for my legs, and I also find I move around in a lot more since the back is really flexible. I never get cramped up or pins and needles or anything in it.

For $500 as long as it's in good shape and has no problems I think that's an excellent deal.

Ask the guy if it's cool if you spend like 15 or 20 minutes sitting in it before committing to buy it though. It's hard to know if you'll like it just from plopping down for a few seconds.

maniacripper
May 3, 2009
STANNIS BURNS SHIREEN
HIZDAR IS THE HARPY
JON GETS STABBED TO DEATH
DANY FLIES OFF ON DROGON
I'm using some Teknion chair that's built like a tank I got for 50 bucks at an office liquidation place here in Broward county. This thing is the most comfortable things I've ever sat in. The padding on the seat hasn't worn down at all since I've got it (2 years ago).

I'd suggest people stop by one and see what they have, you might get lucky.


Also, holy poo poo, 38 Studios sure knew how to blow a fuckton of cash on stuff not related to making a good videogame.

Jimlad
Jan 8, 2005
I'm lucky enough to live near the Herman Miller International HQ in Chippenham (UK), so I went down today to check out the Embody. They don't do their R&D there, it's more of their sales and finance hub, but they have like a sales floor they use to demonstrate their products. I should also mention they don't do direct sales to customers, but their main UK distributor is also local which is very handy for me.

The people there were great, and I was greeted by one of their chair sales specialists who happened to be visiting the site that day. They have a whole selection of different chairs at their HQ, but I have to say the Embody seemed like a completely different beast compared to other offerings; I found the movement of it was quite different to the other chairs I've tried, and it gives much more even support over the whole back. I also like the fact that it's quite narrow which allows your arms more freedom to move around than with other chairs.

The whole thing felt very solidly built even though it can flex, and I was overall pretty impressed by the way it conforms when you lean around in it. Granted I went down there because I'm already interested in the chair, but I tried to go in with a clear mind and just assess the comfort as objectively as I could, regardless of the looks (I love the look of it but they did admit it was a bit of a marmite thing for most customers). Ultimately I found it was pretty drat comfortable to me, moreso then any other office chair I've used. The shape of the back is by far the biggest plus point that I noticed when sitting in this chair, it's really supportive and just feels like a perfect fit for me. It's really quite different to what I'm used to, it felt more like a big step up than a minor evolution. I should mention that I have a cheap high-backed foam/fabric chair at home that's comfy but has very little adjustment, and the fabric is starting to crush. At work I generally use the Aeron and the Okamura Contessa. The Embody felt completely different to all of these.

Note that I only used it for maybe half an hour, whereas I would want to try it out for some hours before really committing, so I'll be doing my best to negotiate a "try it for X days" deal with them if I can.

My only gripe would be with the arm mechanism; they can lock in any position vertically which is great, and they move side to side if you apply some force, but there are three positions and it's easy to push them too hard and skip over the middle position (which is what I preferred). This way it needs two hands to set it to that position - a minor flaw, but worth mentioning.

I learned that the difference between the carpet type and the hard floor type casters is just the resistance in them; the carpet types have very little resistance, since you get quite a bit from the carpet itself. The hard floor type have a bit of damping to stop you rolling around like crazy. This point wasn't obvious from the websites I saw, so I thought I would clarify in case anyone's interested. They didn't actually have any of the polycarbonate casters on the floor, since their main customers are businesses who don't really care about such minor aesthetics. I have to admit I don't especially care either, I don't think it's worth paying the extra for slightly prettier wheels that nobody will ever notice.

As far as I could tell there isn't really much functional difference between the balance and rhythm fabric types. The balance is supposedly "more breathable", but I don't think this translates to much in practical terms (your clothes will have much more effect than the chair ever would). I would advise that if you're going to pick between the two, base it on the feel of it and the colour choice. I intend to go for the rhythm in mulberry to complement the graphite frame (the white frame stands out a bit too much for me, and it shows up dirt much more quickly), and because the rhythm has a much smoother texture to the touch. Plus it's cheaper!

I have the contact details for the people I met today and I'm going to be in touch with them over the next few days, so if anyone has any specific questions about the Embody then I'll try and ask them while I'm at it. I would like to get as much info about it as I can too. Also I'd encourage anyone around the Chippenham area to visit if they're interested; they're open 9-5:30 on weekdays and you can just turn up and ask around.

Jimlad fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Oct 24, 2012

B-Nasty
May 25, 2005

Wanted to see if anyone was doing something creative for a floor chair roller mat. I have gone through 2 of those clear plastic POS mats in about a year. The frequent pressure points of the casters always crack over the carpet and eventually get a hole in them. The mat i bought recently supposedly has a lifetime warranty, so I may try them to see what happens.

I'm thinking of buying some form of thin wood at the hardware store to use instead. Has anybody done something similar?

For reference, the chair is an Aeron and I'm only about 195lbs, so I don't think I'm asking too much of those mats.

Jimlad
Jan 8, 2005

B-Nasty posted:

Wanted to see if anyone was doing something creative for a floor chair roller mat. I have gone through 2 of those clear plastic POS mats in about a year. The frequent pressure points of the casters always crack over the carpet and eventually get a hole in them. The mat i bought recently supposedly has a lifetime warranty, so I may try them to see what happens.

I'm thinking of buying some form of thin wood at the hardware store to use instead. Has anybody done something similar?

For reference, the chair is an Aeron and I'm only about 195lbs, so I don't think I'm asking too much of those mats.

My strategy in the past has been to use a flexible carpet mat (with the spikes) and over the top of that, put a more rigid hard floor mat. This way you get really good durability and a much flatter surface to roll on, and it all stays in place really well.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Jimlad posted:

My strategy in the past has been to use a flexible carpet mat (with the spikes) and over the top of that, put a more rigid hard floor mat. This way you get really good durability and a much flatter surface to roll on, and it all stays in place really well.
Careful, the ones with the spikes absolutely destroy carpets. The spikes eventually wear down and break off, embedding themselves in the carpet and tearing it up.

I would get a square of rigid commercial-grade carpet and use it as your roller mat. You should be able to get some at home depot.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!
Portable dance floor (like you'll see portaged to weddings by the DJ) is real nice for a home office chair if you can find it. By design, it's heavy enough to not give any fucks about carpet, even high pile/shag.

deichkind42
Feb 22, 2004
Figure someone might be able to give me some advice here:
For the last couple of years i used to sit in one of those cheapo executive chairs, similiar to this one:


Obviously the thing wasn't good for my posture as the bottom seat was too long and i'd just just kinda crouch in it with my back having no support at all and always bent forward a bit. It was hella comfortable when leaning back and watching a movie or whatnot though.

When the thing p much broke last week i googled around a bit and saw that lots of reviews and people on forums recommend the Ikea Markus as a halfway decent and not expensive chair, and 150 euros was the most i was gonna spend on a chair anyways right now. New chair pictured here:


When actually sitting upright in front of the computer the Markus is way more comfortable and actually forces me into a halfway-decent posture. I'm less tired throughout the day too cause it's not so soft as to bring up thoughts of a comfy bed all the time. :v

However, i spend usually around 1 to 1 1/2 hours a day using my chair reclined and watching a movie on the monitor or putting on headphones and milkdrop, and here's where the trouble starts:
That goddamn lumbar support gets really uncomfortable after more than 20 minutes in a reclined position. Like, drat. I've tried adjusting my posture while reclined but then i have the choice of not really being relaxed while reclined or the lumbar support getting annoying after a while. (The support just seems to press quite firmly into my whatever that part of the back is called, which i assume is the point, but it definitely is not helping my relax)

Additional info: My back muscles are probably all pretty weakish since for a long time i had little exercise and spent a lot of time in that old soft chair (that has changed, but obviously such things take a while to improve). So i assume it might just be my back having to adjust to the new chair for a few weeks.

So, could anyone who has a bit of knowledge about healthy chairs tell me if i should just suck it up for a while until it improves or if i'm simply not compatible with this chair? (As i said, it's really nice when sitting upright, but being able to recline for a while in the evenings is important to me too)

Also, please do not recommend some 800 $$$ Chairs, at least right now that's out of the question, and there's so many positive reviews of Markus everywhere it's probably not that bad a chair, so i'd like to first find out if it's not a problem with me just having a bit of screwed up posture/back from the long time in the soft chair.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

deichkind42 posted:

So, could anyone who has a bit of knowledge about healthy chairs tell me if i should just suck it up for a while until it improves or if i'm simply not compatible with this chair? (As i said, it's really nice when sitting upright, but being able to recline for a while in the evenings is important to me too)
NO. A chair is not something you "break in". If it is causing you pain, continuing to sit in it will cause you more pain, until it gets to the point where that pain becomes a permanent condition.

The only time you should stick with a chair you aren't sure about is if it has a lot of adjustments. You just may not have figured out the ideal adjustment position for you. But I can see that the lumbar is not adjustable in that chair.

I suggest you look for a chair with 2 important adjustments: 1. back height or lumbar height, and 2. lumbar strength adjustment. These together will allow you to adjust the lumbar position up/down and in/out until you find the right position.

I'd recommend some chairs from my company, but we sell in the USA only at the moment, sadly...

deichkind42
Feb 22, 2004

Rotten Red Rod posted:

NO. A chair is not something you "break in". If it is causing you pain, continuing to sit in it will cause you more pain, until it gets to the point where that pain becomes a permanent condition.

The only time you should stick with a chair you aren't sure about is if it has a lot of adjustments. You just may not have figured out the ideal adjustment position for you. But I can see that the lumbar is not adjustable in that chair.

I suggest you look for a chair with 2 important adjustments: 1. back height or lumbar height, and 2. lumbar strength adjustment. These together will allow you to adjust the lumbar position up/down and in/out until you find the right position.

I'd recommend some chairs from my company, but we sell in the USA only at the moment, sadly...

Ok, thank you for the advice. Of course that's not what i wanted to hear cause it means going to Ikea again and returning the chair next week and then finding a better one that doesn't break the bank, but eh.

EvilMuppet
Jul 29, 2006


Good night catte thread, give them all many patts. I'm sorry,
Does anyone happen to recognize the chair in the foreground here? It was only $200 and the best chair by far I've ever used, I'd love to know the name of it so I can get another:

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

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I'm having some trouble with my desk/chair combo. While this Aeron is really great in the abstract, I cannot loving find a position that makes typing while sitting up straight comfortable at all.

It "started" when I realized that my prior desk's lack of a keyboard tray was contributing to my neck problems. After I replaced it with a new desk that had a keyboard tray, I had trouble typing with my old chair because the armrests were too high for the keyboard tray and could not go lower. The Aeron's armrests are much more flexible but I still can't seem to get a comfortable position for my arms to type on.

I'm not 100% sure why the problem exists. It could be because my left arm is a bit gimp, it could be because I don't have the Aeron adjusted right, it could be because the super-flat Apple keyboard is wrong for me. I'm just not sure how I can figure out what the problem is.

wdarkk fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Nov 16, 2012

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!

EvilMuppet posted:

Does anyone happen to recognize the chair in the foreground here? It was only $200 and the best chair by far I've ever used, I'd love to know the name of it so I can get another:



Looks like the $150 chair at costco

EvilMuppet
Jul 29, 2006


Good night catte thread, give them all many patts. I'm sorry,

Dr Tran posted:

Looks like the $150 chair at costco

Thanks, I checked but it's not the same one.

Mitsune
Jun 24, 2005

EvilMuppet posted:

Does anyone happen to recognize the chair in the foreground here? It was only $200 and the best chair by far I've ever used, I'd love to know the name of it so I can get another:



I think I've spotted this chair before at OfficeDepot. Is it either of these?

A: http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/436534/Realspace-PRO-15000-Series-Big-Tall/?cm_cat=2000000371

B: http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/946809/True-Innovations-High-Back-Bonded-Leather/?cm_cat=2000000371

EvilMuppet
Jul 29, 2006


Good night catte thread, give them all many patts. I'm sorry,
The back and seat are Identical but the arms are different. We don't have Officedepot in Aus though. I found out the one I want is called a "Prime" and is now discontinued.

Attempted to find one on Ebay but couldn't come up with a good search term.

wukkar
Nov 27, 2009
Has anyone used a Setu?
http://www.amazon.com/Setu-Office-Chair-Herman-Miller/dp/B002YSMY3Whttp://www.amazon.com/Setu-Office-Chair-Herman-Miller/dp/B002YSMY3W

uhhhhahhhhohahhh
Oct 9, 2012
Is £145 for a used Steelcase Leap v1 or £160 for a refurbished one good prices? I found these 2 on eBay:

£145

£160

The only other option was this Topstar from Amazon for £138. I guess they're pretty much an unknown brand?

I've no way of trying either out at some place before buying, but with the one from amazon I at least have the benefit of being able to return/warranty.

uhhhhahhhhohahhh fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Nov 24, 2012

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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uhhhhahhhhohahhh posted:

Is £145 for a used Steelcase Leap v1 or £160 for a refurbished one good prices? I found these 2 on eBay:

£145

£160

No, it isn't. Let me direct you here. £144 including VAT for a used Leap V2, and it should come with warranty.

uhhhhahhhhohahhh
Oct 9, 2012

Jedit posted:

No, it isn't. Let me direct you here. £144 including VAT for a used Leap V2, and it should come with warranty.

Thanks. Have you ordered from that website before? How can you tell if it's a v2 or v1 Leap? Looks like you need to pay an extra £145 to get it in another colour too.

uhhhhahhhhohahhh fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Nov 24, 2012

John McCain
Jan 29, 2009

EvilMuppet posted:

The back and seat are Identical but the arms are different. We don't have Officedepot in Aus though. I found out the one I want is called a "Prime" and is now discontinued.

Attempted to find one on Ebay but couldn't come up with a good search term.

It's the Staples Tillman Executive Chair or something similar.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

uhhhhahhhhohahhh posted:

Thanks. Have you ordered from that website before? How can you tell if it's a v2 or v1 Leap? Looks like you need to pay an extra £145 to get it in another colour too.

Side view. v2 Leaps have arms that slide forward and backward, and these don't look quite like the v1 arms in the pictures.

You'd have to call them and ask about the re-covering price. I'm sure an older version of that page said it was £145 for the chair re-covered, rather than for the re-covering of the chair. The wording now seems ambiguous.

uhhhhahhhhohahhh
Oct 9, 2012
They got a weird rear end website. You can't just order online.. you have to put your number in and then they call you about it I guess? I gave it a try and put I'd prefer a black one in the message box so I'll see how it goes. If it doesn't work out I guess I'll try one of those eBay ones. Thank bro.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

uhhhhahhhhohahhh posted:

They got a weird rear end website. You can't just order online.. you have to put your number in and then they call you about it I guess?

It's not like ordering through Amazon, you know. High-end office furniture dealers don't like to sell anything to anyone they haven't spoken to, and preferably met. They want to make sure that the buyer knows exactly what they are ordering, has somewhere to put it, and will have to be present in person to accept delivery and provide access to the building. This goes double for non-business customers and triple for online distance sales.

rawrr
Jul 28, 2007

Jedit posted:

Side view. v2 Leaps have arms that slide forward and backward, and these don't look quite like the v1 arms in the pictures.

You'd have to call them and ask about the re-covering price. I'm sure an older version of that page said it was £145 for the chair re-covered, rather than for the re-covering of the chair. The wording now seems ambiguous.

That's actually a V1 based on the arm caps, seat depth lever and profile of the upper portion of the back cushion. It's also missing the lumbar height adjustment, which was optional on the V1s and standard on the V2s.

It's still a good deal if they come with those polished aluminum legs - the standard plastic looks pretty cheap imo.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

rawrr posted:

That's actually a V1 based on the arm caps, seat depth lever and profile of the upper portion of the back cushion. It's also missing the lumbar height adjustment, which was optional on the V1s and standard on the V2s.

It's still a good deal if they come with those polished aluminum legs - the standard plastic looks pretty cheap imo.

Fair enough, they looked more like the v2 to me but I'll bow to your superior knowledge. Regardless, I'd still say it's better to pay the same to buy from a reputable company than from some guy on eBay who may be a shyster.

uhhhhahhhhohahhh
Oct 9, 2012
I just got off the phone with barkhamofficefurniture.co.uk, it was £145 exVAT for a black chair but they wanted £65 (!!!!) for delivery, exVAT again. So like £225 total. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuudge that.

I'll get the £145 one from eBay.

Dizeh
Nov 25, 2012

Space Dicks
I recently came across an office liquidation in surrey in the UK from which i've managed to pick up a Steelcase Leap for £60, barely used.

I mean sure i have to pick the drat thing up but what a bargain! Should be 100000000000000+ times better than my current chair

Yes.



Soon you will be gone. You have been giving my rear end bedsores for too long...

uhhhhahhhhohahhh
Oct 9, 2012
£60 :negative:


Did they not know what it was worth?

cycleback
Dec 3, 2004
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources

Annexed posted:

I know that for the most part the chairs that you can buy from the office supply stores (staples OD ext) are pretty much poo poo but I've been using this Tempur-Pedic chair for a little over 2 months now and I love it. About 2 years ago I bought an Aeron off CL for $300 hoping that it would be a chair that lasted me as many years as the one from costco that I was replacing it with but after about 3 months it just wasn't comfortable. Don't get me wrong it is a great chair but I just don't care for the mesh much.

http://www.staples.com/Tempur-Pedic-TP4000-Ergonomic-Fabric-Mid-Back-Task-Chair-Black/product-nr_324022

Now this chair is perfect for me it has enough adjustments to make it fit me just right and the foam in the seat and back are really quite awesome. I've sat in the chair for 8+ hours and it feels worlds better then the Aeron I had. If you are in the market for a fabric foam chair I highly suggest taking a look at it.

I just tried sitting in one of these at a Staples and thought they were pretty comfortable. Do you find your back and butt getting too warm? That is my concern about the memory foam.

Why did you pick the TP4000 model versus one of the other Tempur-Pedic models?

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

uhhhhahhhhohahhh posted:

£60 :negative:


Did they not know what it was worth?

I got a leather one for about £70 a while back from what I think is the same place. I was thoroughly bewildered - I mean, it's used but you'd never really notice.

uhhhhahhhhohahhh
Oct 9, 2012
Just got my Leap. The pain in my hip I was getting the moment I sat down in my previous chair wasn't there in the Leap, feels pretty comfortable. There is like 5 fuckin' knob to turn, dunno what the gently caress I'm meant to have them on. Definitely worth the £145.

Now all I need is a monitor with an adjustable stand so it's at the right height, or to find something to put the screen on in the meantime.

Cuntpunch
Oct 3, 2003

A monkey in a long line of kings
After years of dealing with lovely officemax chairs going flat and starting to have some serious pains because of them, the Herman Miller holiday sale convinced me to stop by one of their retailers and pick up an Aeron. I'm absolutely in love with it and can't imagine why I spent so many years dealing with your standard poo poo chairs. After just a few days in it I'm already noticing a lot of the aches I had been experiencing for a while starting to fade.

It probably isn't _as_ comfortable as the Embody I tried, but the Embody also wasn't 65% more comfortable than the Aeron, while definitely being 65% more expensive.

The one question I have about it, though, is the tilt tension control: depending on what I'm doing, sometimes I really like the ability to just lean far back easily - sometimes I like there to be tension(but not lock). It seems like the control knob takes tens or hundreds of turns to change between high and low tension settings.

Is this normal and there are just tens or hundreds of gradient settings that I'm failing to notice?

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

The main reason I don't already own an Aeron is because the Herman Miller sales rep couldn't get the tilt control on her own Aeron to the right setting for me.

Cuntpunch
Oct 3, 2003

A monkey in a long line of kings

Jedit posted:

The main reason I don't already own an Aeron is because the Herman Miller sales rep couldn't get the tilt control on her own Aeron to the right setting for me.

See, I can _get_ it to the right settings, I just can't tell if it is supposed to take a bunch of turns for some reason, or if there's something off with it where only every couple of turns is actually accounting for a change in tension.

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


http://www.staples.com/Staples-Torrent-Bonded-Leather-Managers-Chair-Black/product-nr_923571

Snagged this today at $70 off from Staples, total of $100. It's comfy, good lumbar support, but an absolute bastard to put together.

Medpak
Dec 26, 2011

Jedit posted:

The main reason I don't already own an Aeron is because the Herman Miller sales rep couldn't get the tilt control on her own Aeron to the right setting for me.

I have an Aeron at work and an Embody at home. I feel like the Embody is much easier to get into the right position.

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converge
Jan 8, 2006
Back in 2007, I bought a used Aeron on eBay from a local seller. Used the chair for two months and ended up hating it. Didn't like the mesh seat, the armrests, and the lumbar "support" just didn't feel right. I sold it on craigslist and after reading some online hype, I ended up buying a brand new Leap V2. Been using that since 2007 and think it's the best chair I've sat in so far. I really like the adjustable armrests, the adjustable seat pan, and the way the back reclines but the seat pan stays horizontal.

My plan now was to take the Leap to work and get another Leap for home use, but I'm really intrigued by the Embody. While I like the Leap, I still feel there could be a more comfortable chair out there and I'm wondering if the Embody is it. Just realized that the Herman Miller bi-annual sale ended two days ago, so I guess I'll be thinking about this for another six months. Going to see if I can find a showroom to check one out. Do they have Herman Miller office chairs at Design Within Reach?

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