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joepinetree posted:I honestly don't know how anyone can be optimistic about this. Disney has all the negatives of Lucas, but to the extreme. Silly or cute aliens to push merchandising? Doing away with any sort of "Han shot first" moments? Even more emphasis on effects over story? I can't see any of these things getting better at disney. Star Wars is a property that sells itself. Obviously Disney will continue to merchandise the poo poo out of it, but Disney is also run by people smart enough to know that the best way to continue selling poo poo is to make movies that are actually entertaining and well received. They've given Pixar a remarkable amount of creative freedom up until this point, I don't think there's any reason to think they won't give whoever they put in charge of Star Wars a similar amount of leeway, providing what they make is successful. Like them or not, the Pirates of the Caribbean movies are grimy, violent films. Not everything Disney puts out is Mary Poppins.
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feedmyleg posted:That I'm going to have to agree with. Even if somehow the new movies aren't terrible, the most entertainment I'll get out of this is the horrible EU fans crying over their massacred canon. I've read things you people wouldn't believe. TIE Aggressors on las-fire off the shoulder of Ryloth. I've watched ion-beams glitter in the dark near the Yuuzhan Vong. All those ... moments will be lost in time, like tears...in rain.
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Oct 31, 2012 07:03
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Yoshifan823 posted:I think they might be able to wrangle a cameo out of Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford, but the only way Mark Hamill is gonna be involved is if he does the voice of some alien (which I would be totally 100% for). Harrison Ford needs Star Wars like he needs a hole in the head, I seriously doubt he would do it.
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Oct 31, 2012 07:04
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Lord Lambeth posted:
Like I said, after a little bit of weight loss (several million dollars will motivate you pretty well), he'll look like he did a couple of years ago. And honestly, if we end up with  Then I'm okay with it.
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Oct 31, 2012 07:20
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feedmyleg posted:That I'm going to have to agree with. Even if somehow the new movies aren't terrible, the most entertainment I'll get out of this is the horrible EU fans crying over their massacred canon. The concept of Canon caused me to play all the way through "Lost: Via Domus" on the 360. That game loving sucked. gently caress canon.
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Oct 31, 2012 07:22
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joepinetree posted:I honestly don't know how anyone can be optimistic about this. Disney has all the negatives of Lucas, but to the extreme. Silly or cute aliens to push merchandising? Doing away with any sort of "Han shot first" moments? Even more emphasis on effects over story? I can't see any of these things getting better at disney. They do own Miramax for less kid friendly productions, so they do have an avenue not to pussify everything.
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BlindSite posted:They do own Miramax for less kid friendly productions, so they do have an avenue not to pussify everything. Uh, Disney sold Miramax to Filmyard Holdings two years ago.
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Maxwell Lord posted:I was just reminded that Disney also owns the Muppets. Most important post of the thread
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VoodooXT posted:Uh, Disney sold Miramax to Filmyard Holdings two years ago. Uh, Lucasfilm still exists and it's unlikely Disney is going to use another vehicle to produce the new Star Wars movies.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they treat Star Wars like they have Marvel. Mine the EU for arcs and ideas like they have with Marvel's comics, but don't slavishly follow the originals if they don't want to. They could even follow the format of a bunch of different directors doing tonally different solo movies, then all the solo heroes show up for the big epic every 3 years.
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Oct 31, 2012 12:00
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Madurai posted:But God drat, can he do voices now.
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Tron Legacy, Pirates of the Caribbean and John Carter weren't THAT BAD or too stereotypically Disney-esque. I will remain optimistic unless I find out that they let one of the EU writers do the films.
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feedmyleg posted:Like I said, after a little bit of weight loss (several million dollars will motivate you pretty well), he'll look like he did a couple of years ago. And honestly, if we end up with This is more or less my opinion, too. A little motivation and some Jedi robes and not having to do much more than Alec Guinness in the original trilogy and Hamill will be good to go.
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Oct 31, 2012 14:11
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I really like sci-fi movies so I welcome more Star Wars, at least when Lucas is not involved
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Just put Hamil in a wig, done.
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You guys gotta realize, Lucasfilm will still make the sequel films, not Disney. Pixar still has almost total control over creative content, and only receives broad direction from the mouse. Disney will manage quality control, marketing and distribution. That's not a bad thing: combine the best of what Lucasfilm has to offer with the best of Disney's assets. This looks to be the best thing to happen to Star Wars since 1983.
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Lincoln posted:You guys gotta realize, Lucasfilm will still make the sequel films, not Disney. Pixar still has almost total control over creative content, and only receives broad direction from the mouse. Disney will manage quality control, marketing and distribution. That's not a bad thing: combine the best of what Lucasfilm has to offer with the best of Disney's assets. This looks to be the best thing to happen to Star Wars since 1983. I was at a Q&A with Stan Lee back in June, and someone asked about Disney and if he was concerned at all regarding them exerting creative control. He said that basically, Disney buying Marvel has meant a grand total of one thing - more money for Marvel to play with. If them owning Lucasfilm goes the same way then I'm very optimistic.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Harrison Ford needs Star Wars like he needs a hole in the head, I seriously doubt he would do it. Harrison Ford is a 70 year old man who wears an earring. And he just reprised Indiana Jones. The dude is desperate for his youth, and will be by far the easiest one to come on board in my opinion. He's probably already called!
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Lucasfilm might be making this new trilogy and be free of interference or whatever like all the pixar/marvel comparisons being suggested. Except they weren't making them at all, the only reason they will be is because Disney say so. Whilst no expert, making a movie under duress strikes me as not ideal. Surely, they need to throw all the EU stuff under the bus and get new people who are prepared to invest in the project to invigorate it. There must be some decent directors about who grew up by, and still instinctively, make the swooshing sounds whenever they pick up a torch or whatever, but aren't completely burnt out by the miserable reception to the newer films. Otherwise sod it and lets see it end up as a mysteriously murdered han solo's son at jedi academy learning lightsaber baseball and force cross country runs until he gets with the super hot ware-wookie cheerleader girl having been dropped with their classmates to kill each other on not a moon for the hungry population's entertainment. The EU will be fine anyway, people say they will be angry but really they will be salivating over all those inconsistencies just begging wiki-explanation by means of chopped off hands and cloning.
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UPDATE, straight from Iger: "...the companies 'have a pretty extensive treatment of the next three movies...Episode 7 will be released in 2015, the first under the Disney/Lucas banner,' he said, with Episode 8 and Episode 9 to follow. "Disney also intends to pursue the Star Wars brand in their parks, with games and, 'other initiatives,' CFO Jay Rasulo said." Iger again: "'We really like Star Wars’ potential on TV, and Disney XD would be a great home for that.' He did not provide any more details about future Stars Wars TV shows." "This purchase includes rights to the entire Star Wars franchise, Industrial Light + Magic and LucasSound. Unlike Disney’s $4 billion acquisition of Marvel in 2009, this deal comes with few limitations on the company’s use of the purchased properties like the Star Wars characters. “There are some encumbrances with the first Stars Wars films with Fox and some encumbrances with Indiana Jones with Paramount,” said Rasulo. Iger said that, while he “loves the franchise,” the Indiana Jones films were not a big factor in the deal because of Paramount’s rights to the franchise. Fox has no future distribution rights to any further Star Wars films, the execs said."
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Lincoln posted:Iger again: "'We really like Star Wars’ potential on TV, and Disney XD would be a great home for that.' He did not provide any more details about future Stars Wars TV shows."  Oh god Then again the concept of a Star Wars TV show has never sat right with me in general.
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hhhat posted:Uh, Lucasfilm still exists and it's unlikely Disney is going to use another vehicle to produce the new Star Wars movies. That really has nothing to do with what I was clarifying. 
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Lucasfilm might be making this new trilogy and be free of interference or whatever like all the pixar/marvel comparisons being suggested. Except they weren't making them at all, the only reason they will be is because Disney say so. That said, I doubt his story was any more complex or detailed than the apparent paragraph-length synopsis that launched the prequels.
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Lincoln posted:You guys gotta realize, Lucasfilm will still make the sequel films, not Disney. Pixar still has almost total control over creative content, and only receives broad direction from the mouse. Disney will manage quality control, marketing and distribution. That's not a bad thing: combine the best of what Lucasfilm has to offer with the best of Disney's assets. This looks to be the best thing to happen to Star Wars since 1983. What you seem to forget is, Pixar was an active production company, with something like 4 movies at different stages of production, and a handfull in pre-production, when Disney bought them. They had a ton of talent internally and a clear vision of the future with tentpoles set for almost a decade. Lucasfilm is a Licensing company. They produce the Clone Wars series and that's all. They don't have any internal talent, no directors, no screenwriters, a few producers and then a lot of lawyers, accountants and marketing people. This means, that what we see in the new trilogy, Disney will have a lot bigger influence on than they did Pixar. Simply because all these people needs to be brought in.
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I can say with confidence that there really is no EU stuff that's worth adapting wholesale. Even the highly regarded Thrawn trilogy ends with clone shenanigans like "Luuke," and it's at the shallow end of embarrassing EU material. The EU has jumped the shark many times over now, and the synopses for the Jacen Solo stuff doesn't even pass a laugh test. Earlier stuff is material that wouldn't make a good movie (Darksaber, which has a hilarious resolution), is really boring (The Crystal Star), or both. The Sith and the Empire have both been resurrected so many times, in so many strained ways, that it really reeks of a lack of creativity. So there's that. But the other problem is that the prequels have likely stained the franchise past the point of hope, such that it would take some new thinking to breathe life back into the creative side, and I don't much anticipate that happening. That all being said, we really don't know what they mean by episode seven. It could be far future from the movies, or far past. It could just be another Star Wars movie, like the CG movie that I'm not sure anyone watched and no one wants to talk about.
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Strange Matter posted:
There is a Star Wars TV show that's on right now. Or were you talking about live action? A live action Star Wars show would have to be handled extremely carefully.
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RembrandtQEinstein posted:There is a Star Wars TV show that's on right now. A live action show would generally be a bad idea. There just isn't the time and budget to deliver a show that is on par with any of the movies in terms of production value.
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Just give me a ridiculously high budget short film, oh very artsy, wherein a moon gets dropped upon Chewbacca and I will be happy.
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Strange Matter posted:
Are you telling me you don't want a sequel to the star wars holiday special?
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:A live action show would generally be a bad idea. There just isn't the time and budget to deliver a show that is on par with any of the movies in terms of production value. I absolutely agree, it'd be extremely hard. If they modeled it after Battlestar they it might have a chance, otherwise I just don't see a live action working. Lord Lambeth posted:Are you telling me you don't want a sequel to the star wars holiday special? Lumpy forever
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:I can say with confidence that there really is no EU stuff that's worth adapting wholesale. Even the highly regarded Thrawn trilogy ends with clone shenanigans like "Luuke," and it's at the shallow end of embarrassing EU material. At this point, I think Disney should just invest into the KOTOR period because everyone loves Jedi. You cant salvage that mess with the existing star wars timeline and EU. Plus, it might lure people into the KOTOR MMO mess. It would be too awkward to do ep 7 too far in the future, it would feel disjoint to the original series.
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Lord Lambeth posted:Are you telling me you don't want a sequel to the star wars holiday special? I need more masturbating grandpa wookiees in my life and so does everyone.
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Madurai posted:But God drat, can he do voices now. Bring him on board as The Emperor. Problem solved. Javid posted:I wouldn't be surprised if they treat Star Wars like they have Marvel. Mine the EU for arcs and ideas like they have with Marvel's comics, but don't slavishly follow the originals if they don't want to. They could even follow the format of a bunch of different directors doing tonally different solo movies, then all the solo heroes show up for the big epic every 3 years. I'm okay with this. Nothing they can do will exceed the original trilogy, so I would be much happier if they just didn't even try and instead started from scratch. Sadly that doesn't sound like the direction they're taking if they're starting with Episoide VII.
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I'm gonna be surprised (and disappointed) if the new movies have anything more to do with the OT than "space movie with laser swords".
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General Dog posted:I'm gonna be surprised (and disappointed) if the new movies have anything more to do with the OT than "space movie with laser swords". I maintain that the best way to have done Episode 1 would be for Lucas to have done with he did with A New Hope, cribbed from Kurosawa, and made The Seven Jedi or something like that.
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Strange Matter posted:I would be fine with that. The basic premise of "psychic space samurai with laser swords" is very compelling, and because Star Wars is so ubiquitous there isn't really anything else like that out there. I'm more attached to that simple, sublime idea than any of the ponderous lore surrounding the franchise. There's no reason that couldn't still be done at some point down the road. Although I think the animated series already did an episode like that. They also did a Fort Apache type episode. I was pretty impressed.
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Rhyno posted:I met him in person two years ago and he looks more like Jabba than he does Luke.
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I think it would be interesting if Episode 7 featured a midichlorian as an actual entity, maybe even a humanoid thing. Or maybe...Jar Jar could be the midichlorian that fathered Anakin. And they could have Episode 7 be a musical of sorts, like what we had in Episode 6 at Jabba's place, but for the entire movie. And we could have him impregnate Leia while Han Solo watches. George Lucas is the master and I am but a humble servant that seeks to emulate Him in all of His glory. VVV - Mark Hamill was a loser that didn't deserve to be Luke. George made him what he is today. Hamill is NOTHING without George. Lurking291230 fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Oct 31, 2012 |
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"7, 8, and 9 are the most exciting in the series." http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column-post/star-wars-7-8-and-9-are-most-exciting-says-george-lucas-biographer-exclusive-63006 quote:The stories for “Star Wars” episodes seven, eight and nine, which George Lucas has outlined and the Walt Disney Company will produce and release, are “the most exciting” in the series, the filmmaker’s biographer told TheWrap on Wednesday. My adult self is skeptical. My child self is going loving bonkers right now.
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