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ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

kru posted:

All the gay places are in Chinatown so I wouldn't worry!
Random story. Many gay guys in BAngkok make fun of Singaporean gay guys because they get really rocked up and then fly down to Thailand to slum it and wear the most absurd, tight clothes ever and are, not my words, "Ugly." I have to admit, they are some horrible dressers. They're very obvious (accent doesn't help) and remind me of the subset of gay dudes in DC who dressed like they were on American Gladiator and constantly jogged around DuPont Circle pushing people out of the way, disgustedly saying "Excuse me!" Anyway, yeah, SE Asian gay trivia.

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Abugadu
Jul 12, 2004

1st Sgt. Matthews and the men have Procured for me a cummerbund from a traveling gypsy, who screeched Victory shall come at a Terrible price. i am Honored.
As an "old" person, I'd recommend hitting up Little India and Arab St. For food, found some amazing stuff (especially Turkish food).

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

I got a $500 AA voucher and am considering going to Singapore. I haven't been out of the states in going on 10 years, so it's time. It looks like I can do air fare from ~$700 out of pocket. Thinking around 10 days. Hostels for that time, estimate $300 US? Is $40 US per day a reasonable amount for wandering around/eating money? $1400-$1500 total for a week and a half in Singapore sounds like a pretty drat good deal to me.
I am a big time food nerd and one of the big reasons I want to go is food food food. I'm honestly not even sure what else I should do. This is still early stage planning so I've still got a lot of research to do.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

I don't know how much does a hostel cost but you'll be able to eat tons of food with $40 US a day. Might even be able to go fancy for a meal or two.

creamyhorror
Mar 11, 2006
the incredible adventures of superworm across America

Vegetable posted:

I don't know how much does a hostel cost but you'll be able to eat tons of food with $40 US a day. Might even be able to go fancy for a meal or two.
He'd have to be careful, because US$40 is just S$52, and it's for more than just eating - MRTs/buses, the occasional taxi, admission tickets. At $10 per lunch/dinner on average, plus another $10 for breakfast and tea/a drink a day, he'd have S$22 left over for transport, tickets, and buying a souvenir or two. Not a lot of room left for a fancy meal, unless he went with street food for every other meal.

@I like turtles: Really, 4 days to a week in Singapore is all you need. 10 days might be too long. Would it be possible/affordable to book a 2-stop destination like US -> SG -> Thailand -> US? Admittedly it would take more research and planning, but you'd get more value from flying all the way to Asia.

Singapore has good food but it's quite spread out across the island and you'd have to do a fair amount of traveling and walking. It's quite possible to just explore a recommended area and try anything that seems interesting, though. Be warned that this is exhausting in the heat and humidity, even for those who're used to it. So you'll probably find yourself ducking into air-conditioned stores at every opportunity.

Here's a great series of posts by a (Hawaiian?) blogger who visited Singapore and ate lots of local foods, often through recommendations by his local contacts. The posts are from 7 years ago, but the dishes are still to be found around the island. Give it a read and get inspired.

Vaz
Feb 15, 2002
Vurt Refugee
According to weather sites, November is wettest month for Singapore, would it affect me if I want to visit on that month? I understand it is tropics, but want to know what is it actually during a monsoon day? Downpour all day or short bursts during the day?

kru
Oct 5, 2003

Where did the sudden burst of SG action come from? Creamy, are you still here - I'm aware we haven't met for a beer yet!

Vaz: Nov is fine - it will rain for about 30/60 minutes at about 3/4pm every day in a sudden burst, but nothing you can't just dive out of the way for.

B-Rad
Aug 8, 2006
10 days just in Singapore? You could hop to some beautiful beaches in Indonesia and not have to slum it in hostels with that sort of budget. I would say max 4 days in Singapore, and then jet to some place like Lombok or South Thailand.

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

Cool, ok, ~4 days in Singapore, more time somewhere else. Thailand is definitely on the list. Maybe I should bump it out to 15 days, 4 singapore, 4 one place, 4 another, with travel days not counting much in terms of being anywhere.

If I were to just travel into and out of Singapore, I could do roundtrips between SIN and Phuket for 1200 baht, Bangkok for $168SGD or Hanoi for $200 SGD. Am I batshit for looking at the budget carriers like Jetstar? Chiang Mai could be done for $375 SGD. For some reason, the Chiang Mai flight is routed through Bangkok, but going SIN->CNX->BKK is substantially more expensive. Any reason to not book SIN->CNX and then just get off the plane when they stop in Bangkok on the way back to Singapore?

I could also do Tucson->SIN, then Bangkok->TUS for roughly the same price as Tucson->SIN and back, and do a one way flight from SIN->BKK for $150 SGD, it looks like.

For someone who doesn't mind hostels, etc, what is a reasonable daily allowance in USD for Singapore, Bangkok and Chaing Mai? That is, food and transport? Fancy meals aren't a primary goal, just good meals.

The decent looking hostels in Singapore look to be floating around $25-$35 USD/night. In Chiang Mai I could splurge and go $40/night for this, or break the bank at $11 a night for a private room at a decent looking hostel. Bangkok looks to be ~$15-$20 for private rooms at a hostel.

Is late November, early December a decent enough time for any of these places?

Edit:
Doing 4 nights in Singapore, 5 nights in Chiang Mai, 5 nights in Bangkok, assuming $40/day walking around/eating money in Singapore and $30/day in Thailand, I'm at $1800 for a pretty drat awesome sounding trip. It'd either be time to raid my savings or sell a couple guns :clint:

Edit x2:
Oh man, I could do cooking courses in any/all of these places. There's a Thai farm in Chiang Mai that looks amazing, http://www.thaifarmcooking.net/home/. 900 baht per day for up to 3 days of classes.

I like turtles fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Oct 7, 2012

AntiTank
Oct 25, 2005

I like turtles posted:

The decent looking hostels in Singapore look to be floating around $25-$35 USD/night.

You can look around in the Little India (Lavender MRT), there are many cheap hotel/hostels around there (it's can be little dirty, but it is actually really-rest-of-SEA-clean). And good Indian food.

I like turtles posted:

Cool, ok, ~4 days in Singapore, more time somewhere else.

Try Penang dude. gently caress Phuket.

Best food in the region.
And the town is totally cool.

And you can fly there with AirAsia for cheap.

AntiTank fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Oct 9, 2012

kru
Oct 5, 2003


http://www.happysnailhostel.com/rates--facilities.html

Try the above - ~$15 a day and I can personally vouch for the cleanliness etc, a friend stayed there and the couple who ran it were great.

kru fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Oct 10, 2012

AntiTank
Oct 25, 2005

I didn't say that

Cheesemaster200
Feb 11, 2004

Guard of the Citadel

AntiTank posted:

Try Penang dude. gently caress Phuket.

Best food in the region.
And the town is totally cool.

And you can fly there with AirAsia for cheap.

Penang (and all of Malaysia really) does not have the same kind of nightlife as Thailand though. I agree that Phuket is a shithole, but Thailand has a lot of nice coastal places to visit for a few days. Penang reminded me of a tamer, less expensive Singapore. The food was amazing though.

zoecore
Dec 23, 2003

I like turtles posted:

Edit x2:
Oh man, I could do cooking courses in any/all of these places. There's a Thai farm in Chiang Mai that looks amazing, http://www.thaifarmcooking.net/home/. 900 baht per day for up to 3 days of classes.

I did the cooking school at Thai Farm in Chiang Mai. I only did the one day course, but it was awesome. I very much recommend it. We made so much food that it was impossible to eat it all. And I learned how to make mango and sticky rice properly.. Yum.

I like turtles
Aug 6, 2009

AntiTank posted:

You can look around in the Little India (Lavender MRT), there are many cheap hotel/hostels around there (it's can be little dirty, but it is actually really-rest-of-SEA-clean). And good Indian food.


Try Penang dude. gently caress Phuket.

Best food in the region.
And the town is totally cool.

And you can fly there with AirAsia for cheap.

Awesome, with that airline it looks like Kuala Lumpur is in reach too for cheap, impressions? What about Indonesia, where should I look at there? Being able to get out to the middle of nowhere would be nice too.

AntiTank
Oct 25, 2005

I like turtles posted:

Awesome, with that airline it looks like Kuala Lumpur is in reach too for cheap, impressions?

You can go to KL in about 5 hours by bus = :tenbux:

KL is not that exciting... Batu Caves are cool, Petronas Towers are ok.

kru
Oct 5, 2003

AntiTank posted:

I didn't say that

Yeah I'm not sure how I managed to achieve that

Suntory BOSS
Apr 17, 2006

I wanted to spend Thanksgiving weekend in Singapore, pretty much just to chill at the Marina Bay Sands skypool and eat a bunch of awesome hawker food, but the rainy season seems to start around the same time. Is it typically reliably dry by early March? I want to minimize the chances of paying $500 a night only for the pool to be closed due to rain.

AntiTank
Oct 25, 2005

Suntory BOSS posted:

I wanted to spend Thanksgiving weekend in Singapore, pretty much just to chill at the Marina Bay Sands skypool and eat a bunch of awesome hawker food, but the rainy season seems to start around the same time. Is it typically reliably dry by early March?

Nothing is reliable anymore :(

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Suntory BOSS posted:

I wanted to spend Thanksgiving weekend in Singapore, pretty much just to chill at the Marina Bay Sands skypool and eat a bunch of awesome hawker food, but the rainy season seems to start around the same time. Is it typically reliably dry by early March? I want to minimize the chances of paying $500 a night only for the pool to be closed due to rain.

Are you a clean cut white guy? If you want to be really cheap you can just try waltzing in to the pool with a pair of swimming trunks and t shirt looking like you are ready for a swim. It might work and if the hotel does ask just bull poo poo your way through or leave absent minded.

It's a nice infinity pool but still just a swimming pool, does the pool staff really care?

But MBS is not really close to anything, no metro and what not with a few lousy bus stops. You can schlep your way across to the city centre. I did and it was a long walk. Oh and shilling for Tai Wah Pork noodles.

Flappy Bert
Dec 11, 2011

I have seen the light, and it is a string


Eh? There's an MRT station fairly close to MBS.

Cheesemaster200
Feb 11, 2004

Guard of the Citadel

DerLeo posted:

Eh? There's an MRT station fairly close to MBS.

Directly underneath actually. It is a somewhat new station and doesn't show up in the guide books or anything. I think it is the southern termination of the red and circle lines I believe.

I actually walked over there from the CBD, went through the mall entrance to escape the heat and then hit the station on my way to the lobby. I was not to happy (and very sweaty).

zmcnulty
Jul 26, 2003

caberham posted:

Are you a clean cut white guy? If you want to be really cheap you can just try waltzing in to the pool with a pair of swimming trunks and t shirt looking like you are ready for a swim. It might work and if the hotel does ask just bull poo poo your way through or leave absent minded.

It's a nice infinity pool but still just a swimming pool, does the pool staff really care?

I am a clean cut white guy and yes they do care, you need one card per person and they will check your keycard before you enter the pool area. I stayed there Oct 7th so this is semi-recent. The pool is fantastic, no doubt about that.

You'll be asked upon check-in how many keycards you want. Say whatever number you like but keep in mind the extra person fee.

zmcnulty fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Oct 22, 2012

Suntory BOSS
Apr 17, 2006

I'll be a guest so I'm not worried about sneaking in-- I'm just wondering when I can avoid the pool being closed on account of rain. Torn between trying to preempt monsoon season (Nov 10-12) or waiting till it passes (early March 2013).

The waiting option would be a lot easier if I could keep off that drat eatshootpost food porn blog :shobon:

trigger
Oct 31, 2003

Chasing rabbits on the flip side

zmcnulty posted:

You'll be asked upon check-in how many keycards you want. Say whatever number you like but keep in mind the extra person fee.

Do you know what the extra person fee is? Staying in the MBS for a night when we're in Singapore and a friend was hoping to hit the pool with us.

Edit: Nevermind, I found it. Looks to be SGD100 for standard rooms and SGD125 for club and suite rooms.

trigger fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Oct 22, 2012

zmcnulty
Jul 26, 2003

I'm not completely sure how the extra person fee works, for all I know you could receive 3 cardkeys for 2 people and won't get charged since your friend (presumably) isn't actually staying in your room. I just assume that asking for 3 keys for 2 people would raise some red flags.

zmcnulty fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Oct 23, 2012

crazypeltast52
May 5, 2010



If you walk around like a confused white person everything is fine. Two of my friends got a suite before they started their National Service and we got like 6 or 7 people into the pool area just going up with them. Carry your room towels up so it looks like you are all staying there.

Cheesemaster200
Feb 11, 2004

Guard of the Citadel
It depends on who is at the gate and where you come from. If you come from the Skypark elevators (for tourists), they will be wary. If you come from the hotel elevators where they check your card at the bottom they were less concerned.

Regardless, the only way you will get in without is if you get behind a big group of people. If you are by yourself, they almost always check cards.

zmcnulty
Jul 26, 2003

Or if you have at least two keys you can theoretically bring in as many people as you want, one person at a time. Since you don't actually need a key once you're inside. I'm sure there are plenty of other ways to stiff them if you really want.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Suntory BOSS posted:

I'll be a guest so I'm not worried about sneaking in-- I'm just wondering when I can avoid the pool being closed on account of rain. Torn between trying to preempt monsoon season (Nov 10-12) or waiting till it passes (early March 2013).

The waiting option would be a lot easier if I could keep off that drat eatshootpost food porn blog :shobon:

Just came back from Malaysia and it's a blast. Don't let the weather deter you too much and you should just go to Singapore. The defacto fashion is t-shirt and sandals and when it rains a bit in the afternoon you can always duck into a hawker stall and snack on something. Plus coming in from Japan pay everything won't feel as pricey. If the weather really really sucks, then hop a tiger low budget flight to Thailand. You can go southern Thailand like Krabi for beaches and rock climbing or to Bangkok for more crazy SEA city.

I really want to live in Singapore for a few years as a base. Good cheap budget flights, great food, and hot muggy weather so there's no point on spending fancy clothes :downsrim:

melon cat
Jan 21, 2010

Nap Ghost
Awesome. A Singapore thread. Just what I was looking for. :)

My wife and I are in our late-20s. We really like exploring new foods. We're physically active. A bit of the tourist-y stuff is fine, but we're looking for the REAL Singapore experience, but we don't know where to start!
  • Are the night-time safaris worth the cost?
  • How long would you suggest staying in Singapore to get the best experience?
  • Which shopping stores/areas/malls would you suggest going to?
  • Any particular destinations that absolutely shouldn't be skipped? Which ones can be skipped?
  • To any vacationers who have gone to Singapore before- what's the best air travel route? Should we go to Singapore via Vancouver, or is there a better route?
  • Any short tips that will make it a great trip?

mania posted:

Also since a ton of posts here seem to be about food - Would you guys be interested in a list of places where the good/famous (stuff that's been featured on tv shows/newspapers/blogs) food can be found?

Yes! Please!

melon cat fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Nov 1, 2012

Slo-Tek
Jun 8, 2001

WINDOWS 98 BEAT HIS FRIEND WITH A SHOVEL

melon cat posted:

Awesome. A Singapore thread. Just what I was looking for. :)

My wife and I are in our late-20s. We really like exploring new foods. We're physically active. A bit of the tourist-y stuff is fine, but we're looking for the REAL Singapore experience, but we don't know where to start!


I probably mentioned most of this up-thread with pictures, but we stayed in Hotel 1929 in Chinatown and were very pleased with it. Rooms were tiny, since it is an old converted shophouse, but the price was reasonable, and it was very stylish/botique/designy which whe wife liked.

Food street in Chinatown is a blast. They block off one of the big roads and put folding tables down the middle with vendor carts down both sides. Every kind of noodle/curry/fried/steamed/whatever else you can imagine. My favorite was Erich's, a crazy austrian selling bratwurst and kraut on a hard roll from a truck. Not the best brat I ever ate, but certainly a good one, and all the more charming for the venue.

Walking in Little India was also good, nothing wrong with the vindaloo, a little less tourist-ready than Chinatown.

Clarke's Quay was good walking, but we didn't feel up to paying the prices to eat out that way, with so much good food for 4$ a plate, it was hard to want to spend 100$.

The Peranaken cuisine was interesting and good and different, think we ate at Blue Ginger, just as the place was closing up for the night, but the owner/host was really cool and friendly and would have hung out with is for far longer.

We also really enjoyed walking around Kent Ridge Park, there is a section of raised jungle canopy walk that is free and really amazing, and the walk from there to the Henderson Wave Bridge has a ton of great views. Lots of good views and monkeys and crazy botanical whatsits.

I found the shopping to be unremarkable. Had everything you could ever want, but it was kind of exactly the same as the stuff you can get at a high-end mall in a big city in in the US, well, a high-end mall and a chinatown, anyway. Nothing hugely outlandish and "wow, could never buy that at home" about it. The wetmarket was also good but not insane, which surprised me. Lots of fish and turtles and frogs and so on, but nothing shocking.

The Singapore Museum was solid, Sentosa was fun but very touristy and packaged. We enjoyed the cable car ride from the top of the mountain down to Sentosa, but was a bit pricy for what it was.

We also really really enjoyed going out to the islands in Malaysia to dive and jungle trek and chase fruitbats and so on. If your time allows you could do worse than taking a commuter flight out to Pulau Tioman, grabbing a beach cabin, and spending a couple days in the jungle and diving.

Flappy Bert
Dec 11, 2011

I have seen the light, and it is a string


melon cat posted:

[*]Are the night-time safaris worth the cost?
[*][*]Any particular destinations that absolutely shouldn't be skipped? Which ones can be skipped?
[*]To any vacationers who have gone to Singapore before- what's the best air travel route? Should we go to Singapore via Vancouver, or is there a better route?

Vancouver -> Tokyo/Seoul -> Hong Kong -> Singapore is usually the most consistent route, Hong Kong optional. It depends on the best deal you can get from your airline, though, really.

The Singapore Zoo I personally think is great and worth doing. Night Safari is also good, but it's a bit more touristy and pricey, so if you're on a budget nobody will say you missed anything major.

xcdude24
Dec 23, 2008

melon cat posted:

Awesome. A Singapore thread. Just what I was looking for. :)

My wife and I are in our late-20s. We really like exploring new foods. We're physically active. A bit of the tourist-y stuff is fine, but we're looking for the REAL Singapore experience, but we don't know where to start!
  • Are the night-time safaris worth the cost?
  • How long would you suggest staying in Singapore to get the best experience?
  • Which shopping stores/areas/malls would you suggest going to?
  • Any particular destinations that absolutely shouldn't be skipped? Which ones can be skipped?
  • To any vacationers who have gone to Singapore before- what's the best air travel route? Should we go to Singapore via Vancouver, or is there a better route?
  • Any short tips that will make it a great trip?


Yes! Please!


-Hit up Joo Chiat/Geylang for an old school paranakan experience. Betel Box Hostel offers a food walk of the neighborhood; check their website for details. They canceled the walk I signed up for, but the lady at the hostel gave me a TON of info about the neighborhood.
-For a better look at Malay life in Singapore, I'd rather hit up Geylang Serai market than Kampong Glam.
-Golden Mile and Tiong Bahru are hawker centres really close to the city centre, and both offer way better value than what you'd get at places like Newton or Lau Pa Sat. I walked through the Golden Mile complex (it's a huge mall/building right across the street from the Golden Mile Food Centre), and the place was filled with Thai restaurants. The people at my hostel said the food is pretty good, so it might be worth checking out if you're into that.
-It's sort of touristy, but a ride around Palau Ubin is definitely worth doing. You can rent a bike for pretty cheap, and the walk around the mangrove forest is awesome.

For a morning itinerary that's both somewhat out of the way and somewhat touristy, take the MRT to Commonwealth, and eat breakfast at Tanglin Halt Hawker Centre. I had the Peanut Pancake (recommended by Bourdain- http://ieatishootipost.sg/2011/06/tanglin-halt-original-peanut-pancake.html), but there was mad lines from stuff ranging from roti prata (which is awesome), noodles, etc. If you're looking for out of the way, this is it: I was the only white person in there. The botanic garden is really beautiful. Everything is perfectly manicured, and there's a huge selection of trees/flowers from all over the region.

If you can, try to fly Singapore air. By far the best experience I've ever had on an airplane.

melon cat
Jan 21, 2010

Nap Ghost
Holy poo poo. Great info. Thanks, guys. :hfive:

kru
Oct 5, 2003

I live 5 mins walk away from Tanglin Halt (Buona Vista), so if you make it there give me a shout and I'll join you for lunch/show you about whatever :unsmith:

melon cat
Jan 21, 2010

Nap Ghost

kru posted:

I live 5 mins walk away from Tanglin Halt (Buona Vista), so if you make it there give me a shout and I'll join you for lunch/show you about whatever :unsmith:
Sounds good to me! I'll let you know once our travel plans are more concrete.

Soy Division
Aug 12, 2004

Are there any good venues in SG for underground electronic music? By which I mean Detroit techno, Berlin-style house, etc. I know Zouk books some good DJs from time to time (Carl Craig, Stacey Pullen, etc) but other than that I haven't seen much. Trance, electro, and mainstream dubstep seem to rule the roost so far as I can tell.

kru
Oct 5, 2003

There are a few. I was actually at a Detroit Techno night at Home Club, on Monday night there (Tues Holiday). Seemed to be okay, but I only lasted 3 minutes before having to meet other people down at Boat Quay. I know the door staff, so I can get you in free for you to check it out, if you like.

I'll ask a few friends about other less mainstream genres and see what I can come up with for you. It's a bizarre place since it seems to have a less varied music scene than even my home town (Edinburgh), and that's literally 10% of the size. Kinda feels like techno never really caught on here.

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Soy Division
Aug 12, 2004

Thanks for the recommendation of Home Club, I checked it out and good vibes. Walkable from my place too. Will definitely be back.

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