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B-Rock452 posted:I was at CVS waiting for a prescription and found a book titled "Common Myths from the Bible." The entire purpose of the book was to take stuff like "turn the other cheek," "it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for the rich to go into heaven," and show how the bible actually wants you to do the opposite. The entire purpose of the book was to justify acting like a complete rear end in a top hat and further the gently caress you got mine mentality that permeates christianity today. Was it written by this guy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtCpVhRtlZ4
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quote:He was really funny in college though! He's still pretty funny. As crazy as a lot of the other stuff is, I kind of get it - but I don't get how you can still be on the birther train (other than if you'd just never paid any attention - which isn't this guy). The whole conspiracy never made any sense, but at least it had the tired old "if you've got nothing to hide..." bullshit to cling to. Now it's just sad. Most conspiracy theories fold under an attempt to fit them into a larger worldview, the birther thing doesn't make any sense all on its own.
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The birth certificate is fake because I say it's fake! If you disagree you're wrong (and mentally retarded!) The fact that we (they) made our president prove he is an American (after proving before that like 50 times)--and then still weren't satisfied--is shameful. The whole episode is shameful.
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Nov 2, 2012 22:12
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myron cope posted:The birth certificate is fake because I say it's fake! If you disagree you're wrong (and mentally retarded!) Sure. He may say he's human, but have you ever seen any evidence? SHOW US THE DNA SEQUENCE, LIZARDBAMA!!!
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Nov 2, 2012 22:13
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Was it written by this guy? I love the way this guy doesn't explain anything or provide the actual quotes he's talking about, just puts them on his powerpoint, says "Jesus said so-and-so" and moves on. Well I'll bet you that some of the verses he brings up have very little to do with what he says they do. Let's take a look. For example, he cites Deuteronomy 14:22 to say the Bible is opposed to progressive income taxation. Deuteronomy 14:22 posted:Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. Yep, that sure is against progressive taxation. Proverbs 13:22 is against an estate tax, he says. Proverbs 13:22 posted:A good man gives an inheritance to his grandchildren and the wealth of sinners is kept for the righteous. Actually, I would argue that could be for an estate tax considering it says you should take at least some people's wealth (the sinners) and distribute it to the righteous rather than letting the dead one distribute it. Considering what the bible says about accumulation of wealth, I think I know which side all the rich people handing down millions to their kids would fall on. I'm sure some of the other ones can be interpreted to support what he says, but at least some of his supposed 'evidence' that he doesn't bother explaining is pretty ambiguous.
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Was it written by this guy? What was Jesus's teaching on the minimum wage??? Don't leave me hanging!
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vyelkin posted:For example, he cites Deuteronomy 14:22 to say the Bible is opposed to progressive income taxation.
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Nov 2, 2012 22:27
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Was it written by this guy? I don't think so, I'm desperately trying to find it. It was horrible but it was more than just him going over bible quotes but also common beliefs. One chapter was on forgiveness and started with "Doesn't the bible talk about how important it is for us to forgive others for sinning against us. FALSE" and then it goes on about how since it's up to god to forgive we don't have to and we can be assholes. It was insane. It was honestly a primer on how to be a complete shithead and use the bible to justify it.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Technically, that is a flat tax. I read it as just telling you that it's good to save instead of using everything all at once, since it's not "Give 10% to the government" but rather "Just set it aside". Some translations call it a tithe, which would be to the church, some say just to save it. Either way, government is not part of the passage at all.
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Nov 2, 2012 22:47
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vyelkin posted:I read it as just telling you that it's good to save instead of using everything all at once, since it's not "Give 10% to the government" but rather "Just set it aside". Some translations call it a tithe, which would be to the church, some say just to save it. Either way, government is not part of the passage at all.
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I have one rather unique friend on Facebook that is currently making posts about how everyone should not vote. He goes on about how it hurts him and by voting you're condoning violence. This is the same guy that I see post about weird anarchy stuff and various other questionable subjects. His latest post/rant (note: that is not me replying to him): 
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Got a good Facebook post from a former supervisor in the Air Force (he's from NY):quote:Him: Why I love social media...as Staten Island's population of 80k+ starves and devolves into chaos, NYC mayor doucheberg is pushing forward with a marathon, supported by the police, EMT personnel, food services/sponsors. Becasue we just have to present of picture of normalcy, in support of the liberal candidate. All the while a certain candidate retreated to the Peoples Republic of Boulder, Colorado. Where he has the support of 18 year olds that know nothing of the world around them. Except for the fact that they all will be taken care of, and not have to worry about anything. Where is the red cross, why was nothing staged, as it was for New Orleans? Glad you flew around with a fat guy in Jersey, and filled sandbags (post surge), but, lost my vote. I may need help on this one after he responds, seeing as how I am a terrible debater. Oh, and can anyone tell me how to update FB conversations?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:
But you have to have fields to pay it. vyelkin posted:I read it as just telling you that it's good to save instead of using everything all at once, since it's not "Give 10% to the government" but rather "Just set it aside". Some translations call it a tithe, which would be to the church, some say just to save it. Either way, government is not part of the passage at all. Your modern concept of secular government is not, no. VideoTapir fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Nov 3, 2012 |
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Mitchicon posted:Got a good Facebook post from a former supervisor in the Air Force (he's from NY): Wasn't the marathon canceled? That's what the breaking news alert on my phone said.
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Mitchicon posted:Got a good Facebook post from a former supervisor in the Air Force (he's from NY): Like myron cope said, the marathon was canceled. The Red Cross is there and has BEEN THERE for weeks. One of my close friends from college is a Red Cross area coordinator and she's been in Delaware or Maryland for at least three weeks getting things ready to go. I'm pretty sure they had workers and supplies in Jersey before the storm him as well, but I'd need to check with her. Basically, everything he said in the first message was wrong. Totally wrong. What does he expect Obama to do? He's one guy. He did everything in his power to make this right... said a Republican governor and mayor. It's not like Obama made this a partisan situation or acted unreasonably. It sounds stupid in such an awful situation, but he legitimately has better things to do that actually be the guy on the ground helping out. Apply business logic here - why isn't the CEO of any retail store sitting around in the store making sales? Because he has to coordinate the machinery that makes that happen.
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Driving home from work I heard an excellent interview with a retired general on NPR regarding the response to the Benghazi attack. http://www.npr.org/2012/11/02/164207549/general-cia-responded-quickly-to-benghazi-attack In short: no CIA personnel were ordered to stand down, and US quick reaction forces were immediately deployed from the east coast and europe but by the time they arrived at their staging area everything was already over.
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Guy I work with just posted this on Facebook:quote:ELECTION 2012 Dude's one of the smuggest most self-righteous people I've ever met. Tempted to reply with that DFW quote from Up, Simba. quote:If you are bored and disgusted by politics and don't bother to vote, you are in effect voting for the entrenched Establishments of the two major parties, who please rest assured are not dumb, and who are keenly aware that it is in their interests to keep you disgusted and bored and cynical and to give you every possible psychological reason to stay at home doing one-hitters and watching MTV on primary day. By all means stay home if you want, but don't bullshit yourself that you're not voting. In reality, there is no such thing as not voting: you either vote by voting, or you vote by staying home and tacitly doubling the value of some Diehard's vote.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:Guy I work with just posted this on Facebook: That's a good quote, and good point. But even if you assume both Presidential candidates suck, there are still other, very important, issues on the ballot. Often not even elections, but legislation/state constitutional amendments, things like legalizing pot or banning gay marriage or sales tax increase/decrease. Things that have a direct, specific effect on your everyday life. But hey, voting is for suckers! Also, that Navy guy is way off. Every vote is counted, even absentee votes. It's just that if one candidate is ahead by 80,000; and there are only 50,000 absentee ballots, you can be certain who the winner is. But they still open, count and record EVERY vote.
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Someone told him to vote 3rd party and he replied:quote:Voting independent is like trying to overthrow Rome in it's heyday with one grenade. He's so Above It All
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:Someone told him to vote 3rd party and he replied: What state does he live in?
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He's traveling for work so he hasn't been living there for a bit, though he is moving back soon, but anyway he would have voted absentee for Ohio Yup
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B-Rock452 posted:I don't think so, I'm desperately trying to find it. It was horrible but it was more than just him going over bible quotes but also common beliefs. One chapter was on forgiveness and started with "Doesn't the bible talk about how important it is for us to forgive others for sinning against us. FALSE" and then it goes on about how since it's up to god to forgive we don't have to and we can be assholes. It was insane. It was honestly a primer on how to be a complete shithead and use the bible to justify it. Was it The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Bible? http://www.amazon.com/Politically-Incorrect-Guide-Bible-Guides/dp/1596985208 There's a whole series of these things covering stuff like economics and global warming and they're just as terrible.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:He's traveling for work so he hasn't been living there for a bit, though he is moving back soon, but anyway he would have voted absentee for Ohio Ignoring the fact that Ohio has a good chance of being the State that decides the Presidential election... They also have a constitutional amendment on their ballot that will change things so that all future redistricting will be done by a 12 person, citizen group rather than elected officials, and will ban lobbying efforts to influence the process. This is something that could significantly impact future Congressional elections and make them more competitive. This alone should be reason enough to vote.
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Sarion posted:Ignoring the fact that Ohio has a good chance of being the State that decides the Presidential election... Issue 2 tries to solve the problem of gerrymandering with more gerrymandering. Woo.
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Didn't California try a similar idea for redistricting and it really didnt work?
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RagnarokAngel posted:Didn't California try a similar idea for redistricting and it really didnt work? Yes, but the opposite of that. It worked fine.
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Kavak posted:These people do realize you usually also vote for things besides the President on Election Day, right? Do Propositions, Representatives, and Senators not exist anymore? This is what legit pisses me off. I was always raised to be political, but with the whole 'think global work local' mindset. Yea, Obama and Romney is kinda mainly a matter of keeping the crazy dude from appointing right wing justices and at least supporting the dude who pays lip service to social issues, but there are a poo poo ton of local issues and positions you should be very passionate about.
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Pilkington posted:I have one rather unique friend on Facebook that is currently making posts about how everyone should not vote. He goes on about how it hurts him and by voting you're condoning violence. This is the same guy that I see post about weird anarchy stuff and various other questionable subjects.
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Sarion posted:Ignoring the fact that Ohio has a good chance of being the State that decides the Presidential election... I don't understand. 12 non-elected people? They must be intimately familiar with the election process to be able to do the redistricting. It seems like you'd be putting in 12 lobbyists/campaign staffers and then saying "Okay! Now no one try to influence them!"
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You can read the ballot language here: http://votersfirstohio.com/ballot-language/ It has a big summary of the changes, including things like making sure districts are not split by population or voting history too much. For example, the population of each district has to be within 98% and 102% of the population to Congressional seat ratio; and no district can be split such that the vote count was more than 5% apart in the last election. Of course, it will likely be impossible to actually create a map that matches all these requirements. For example, if one district only had a single congressman running unopposed, that fucks up the voting rule. But the commission has to do their best to come up with several plans that come close to meeting the requirements and then the Supreme Court selects the best one, if the commission fails to pick one. Anyways, the section on who can serve on the commission says this: quote:Provide that certain persons will be ineligible to serve as Commission members as follows: a) a person who or whose immediate family member as defined in the amendment, within 10 years preceding the date of application, served as a federal or state elected official, was a paid employee of the Ohio legislature, the U. S. Congress, or the office of a federal or state elected official, was the director of a state department or agency, or was a paid lobbyist as defined under federal or state law; b) a person who, within 5 years preceding the date of application, was a candidate for federal or state office; was a paid employee or paid consultant of a campaign for a political candidate or or political committee as defined by federal or state law; was an official or paid employee of any political party organization; or made monetary contributions to political campaigns or political parties that exceed a total of $5,000 during a 2 year period, which amount shall be adjusted consistent with the consumer price index in future years; and c) any person who has not voted in at least 2 of the previous 3 general elections conducted in even numbered years.
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Eudaimonian posted:Was it The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Bible? http://www.amazon.com/Politically-Incorrect-Guide-Bible-Guides/dp/1596985208
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Latest FB about Benghazi. This thing is feeding on itself.
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I'm pretty sure I just saw report somewhere (source amnesia on this one) that the Pentagon actually had two reaction forces moving on Benghazi but they still hadn't arrived by the time everything was over. Something about a Delta Force crew being flown out to a base in Sicily. You know, like an actual report with actual facts. Can't remember where it was but it wasn't an image macro on facebook.
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Arglebargle III posted:I'm pretty sure I just saw report somewhere (source amnesia on this one) that the Pentagon actually had two reaction forces moving on Benghazi but they still hadn't arrived by the time everything was over. Something about a Delta Force crew being flown out to a base in Sicily. You know, like an actual report with actual facts. Can't remember where it was but it wasn't an image macro on facebook. http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...276a_story.html There really isn't a response I can give to the image that will satisfy the people posting it, they've already made up their minds. I want to ask them what world they live in where no one dies in a fire fight, but I don't think it would be productive.
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Armyman25 posted:Latest FB about Benghazi.
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Armyman25 posted:Latest FB about Benghazi. Yeah it was just those two guys. Oh and also a bunch of other guys were sent to help. quote:A six-person, quick-reaction security team arrives from their compound across town. About 60 Libyan militiamen accompany them. They attempt to secure a perimeter around Stevens' building and take turns going inside. Taking fire, Libyan forces determine they can't hold the perimeter. A decision is made to evacuate the compound and return with everyone to the reaction force's compound. Fiction is fun sometimes I guess. Source: http://news.yahoo.com/timeline-events-comments-surrounding-benghazi-205408923--election.html
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