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WAR FOOT posted:Dang, sad I missed it. Stuff like that's always a good way to distract me from being unable to get past 8000 points in Trolling of the Dead. World of Koos posted:(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)  Not much to miss, I'm afraid. Shame it never loving sticks.
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How great it must be for this dude, to just have a bunch of spare  lying around. I wonder how much he spends on re-regs alone per year?Somewhat on-topic, I was skimming the Leper's Colony for permabanned users and came across two consecutive ones with no link to any particular post, who only have what appears to be a cropped picture of LE in the ban reason. I'm guessing those were related to the weirdo who admitted to owning a Homestuck porn blog? Or was there another incident I (fortunately) missed?
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Blood Nightmaster posted:How great it must be for this dude, to just have a bunch of spare That would be the FYAD banner he uploaded about 1025 identical copies of into the rotation. It has nothing to do with us save that he used our character for it.
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Blood Nightmaster posted:Somewhat on-topic, I was skimming the Leper's Colony for permabanned users and came across two consecutive ones with no link to any particular post, who only have what appears to be a cropped picture of LE in the ban reason. I'm guessing those were related to the weirdo who admitted to owning a Homestuck porn blog? Or was there another incident I (fortunately) missed? That was a guy that was presumed to be koos, but later said he wasn't or something like that. Anyway, he uploaded like 2,000 fyad flags of that exact same image, trying to get fyad to troll this thread or something like that. Koos also was the minecraft = autism guy, if you were wondering.
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tinaun posted:That was a guy that was presumed to be koos, but later said he wasn't or something like that. Anyway, he uploaded like 2,000 fyad flags of that exact same image, trying to get fyad to troll this thread or something like that. Yeah, I remember skimming fyad once and seeing that banner stuck at the top of the page. I always thought they did it on purpose but this certainly explains alot.
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Now I realise a Very Serious Thing happened on the East Coast and all but at the same time I keep religiously going to the MSPA homepage every hour only to be disappointed that the server still isn't back on! I'm surprised tumblr hasn't imploded yet. Then again they are probably using this time to write about headcannons and OTP's and whatnot. What I'm saying is I have an addiction and going cold turkey is just making it worse! 
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Oh hey it's back now. No update, though.
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Nice! Let's see if it sticks, as far as I know they're still running on generators and there's some other more critical stuff in the same building, so it might go down again. e: Actually, no, the host says they're back on utility power now. Hamiltonian Bicycle fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Nov 3, 2012 |
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Nov 3, 2012 15:14
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Well the site is back up, but no update yet. I want Hussie to hold back on it, just to annoy the fans who care more about the comic than the devastation in the East. Or maybe another psyche update that just says "You Are The Worst" once it hits 100%.
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Wanting there to be an update doesn't make you a bad person. As far as I know nobody was saying "man, those devastated New York server people are so lazy where is my comic BLAAHHH!" except for straw men people were using to feel superior. Then again, I don't venture deep into the fandom much. If there was an intended Halloween update, do you think he'll still backdate it? For some reason it would seem, I don't know, wrong somehow.
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Is it bad that I'm more pleased the site is back because that dude doing the really good annotations can continue than because we can get updates again?
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Olivia42 posted:If there was an intended Halloween update, do you think he'll still backdate it? For some reason it would seem, I don't know, wrong somehow. He backdated the Lord English flash last year to be on Halloween so I wouldn't be surprised. But it wasn't as large of a gap last time, either.
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As long as we're still sitting around without updates still, some idle curiosity that randomly occurred to me on the drive home from work this morning. (  post ahoy)The subject of a screen adaptation of Homestuck has come up in discussion before, usually in the flavor of "TV show, movie, or anime?" or "What VAs would voice so-and-so characters?" But something that isn't usually talked about is related to the real keyword of the premise: adaptation. There are going to be huge swaths of content that don't easily translate out of the multi-faceted medium that is the internet and onto a purely audio-visual medium. So I'm curious what people think would be some really noteworthy changes; not necessarily the biggest and most drastic ones, but changes that might warrant particular note and attention for one reason or another. One thing that immediately comes to mind for me is pesterlogs: I feel like for the most part they'll be completely gone. They're already quite overly lengthy and wordy to work well onscreen and will surely be heavily cut and edited; what does remain, I think, will evolve into some sort of Skype/G-talk function for a lot of the interactions. I'm not sure why this idea is sticking in my head so much, maybe I am just amused by the idea of two characters in completely different locations, or even different planets, carrying on a perfectly normal conversation by talking into iShades and compu-goggles. I'm also reasonably sure that to get around this, we'll see our heroes meeting face to face and teaming up much, MUCH sooner. Speaking of cutting and editing, too, I feel like a lot more of the lore of Sburb, as well as a lot of the more subtly-implied or entirely unseen character developments/interactions and plot devices, would have to be seen/explained far more explicitly. The function of dreamselves, for example, will probably need to be more elaborated on and stressed as actual functional "lives" for viewers to really get the drama involved in the death of a dreamself, most especially Jade's dream-death during the destruction of Prospit, and dream-Vriska bleeding out as her normal body is dying. Rose is another candidate for this treatment, with regard to her going off the rails and destroying her gate; I feel like for this to make sense in an onscreen version, it would require a bit more fleshing out of her early character arc as a whole, growing more and more obviously frustrated with and bitter toward the rails that the game has stuck her and her friends on, bringing her to a visible snapping point that causes her to destroy the gate and actively start trying to break the game, rather than a simple "I'm not sure why I did it, really." And, of course, we'd probably have to see a lot more actual reactions from John to various emotional-climax moments. Overall the loss of subtlety would be a bit unfortunate, I suppose, but at the same time maybe it'd be a window to expand on interesting game constructs and character arcs/plot devices. Anyway TL;DR what else do you guys think would be a noteworthy change about Homestuck in its structure and storytelling in a screen adaptation? CidGregor fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Nov 3, 2012 |
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i wanna homestucks anime
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Is it time for voice actor chat? Because I still want Aaron Paul from Breaking Bad as Dave. "I'm a little black rain cloud, bitch." It's perfect. (On annotations: I had just started the Scratch intermission when the Sandy intermission downed access to the site. I'll probably post the next chunk after I finish Act 5.)
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Chexoid posted:i wanna homestucks anime agreed but only if rose is tsundere
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why are there so many girls what the gently caress is this poo poo they arent even hot
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If Homestuck were translated to a purely audio-visual media the entire story would require massive rewrites, even outside of the pesterlogs, to compensate for the fact that Hussie was largely making things up as he went along. The trolls would be moved forward and foreshadowed earlier, a good chunk of the shennanigans would have to be cut, and I seriously think that the sylladexes should be excised entirely. While I agree that the pesterlogs would have to be considerably trimmed, I don't think that it should be transformed from a chat relay to some sort of Skype service, if only because the majority of the humor in pesterlogs comes from people missing messages, or rambling on to themselves while their chum is actually doing something. (I.E. "TT: John, I'm about to throw a bathtub through your wall" or "TG: We're under siege by the planet loving Jupiter") Those kinds of dialogs don't happen between people talking face to face or even to people talking on the phone.
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Technique posted:agreed but only if rose is tsundere Nepeta is already a tsundere nekomimi imouto though
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Triskelli posted:I seriously think that the sylladexes should be excised entirely. Heresy! The sylladex shenanigans are the best part of the first acts  We need more of them.
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Triskelli posted:If Homestuck were translated to a purely audio-visual media the entire story would require massive rewrites, even outside of the pesterlogs, to compensate for the fact that Hussie was largely making things up as he went along. The trolls would be moved forward and foreshadowed earlier, a good chunk of the shennanigans would have to be cut, and I seriously think that the sylladexes should be excised entirely. Pesterlogs could probably be translated with some sort of quirky floating text popups a la Sherlock, but I think just a straight-up chat log on a computer screen would probably work best in most circumstances. Voiceovers would be a must though, gently caress reading long conversations off of a screen.
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It'd have to be a TV series. There's just no possible way you could shave the essence of Homestuck down into a single two-hour arc for a movie. Even a trilogy would suffer from trying to break it down into three contiguous acts that are self-contained stories in their own right. The real challenge isn't so much time as scenes. A season of television with twenty four half-hours is effectively made up of hundreds of scenes, and Homestuck can possibly be distilled enough to get the scene count down that low. A few key scenes could be lifted mostly unchanged from the comic, others could be synthesized or streamlined together to get the important parts across, and a lot of them could be quietly dropped. I'd be really skeptical that it could be done even for television if HBO hadn't done such a great job with the similarly monolithic Game of Thrones, but that show convinces me it'd be possible with Homestuck too. It's also proof that the most fun would be everyone arguing about the faithfulness of the adaptation ("Oh god they hinted ship x/made so-and-so more sympathetic/ruined this guy's motivation, this is the worst thing ever!"). Doesn't really matter considering it'd never happen though. The game is probably Homestuck's capstone. Edit: Recaps will be replaced by Hussie monologuing his intent to get revenge on his own characters in front of prostitutes banging. Dolash fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Nov 3, 2012 |
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Dolash posted:Edit: Recaps will be replaced by Hussie monologuing his intent to get revenge on his own characters in front of prostitutes banging. If HBO Presents Homestuck meant we'd get Ben Wyatt making Homestuck references in Parks and Rec I'd be down.
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Me and my friend went over the cast of a Homestuck TV show. John will be played by Chris Rock and Rose will be played by Queen Latifa. There is no better alternative
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RickoniX posted:Nepeta is already a tsundere nekomimi imouto though Nepeta can actually survive on her own though, which means that she is nowhere NEAR moe enough. If Homestuck's gonna be an anime, every single female character must be 1: Completely and utterly retarded, and 2: Completely unable to survive without Generic Male Anime Lead's help. (NOTE: John will be replaced by a faceless anime person due to this.)
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Dolash posted:It'd have to be a TV series. There's just no possible way you could shave the essence of Homestuck down into a single two-hour arc for a movie. Even a trilogy would suffer from trying to break it down into three contiguous acts that are self-contained stories in their own right. I dunno, I think you could make the case that Homestuck (thus far) is sort of loosely following sort of a trilogy, with Act 1-4, 5 and 6+. They all have an introduction -> build up -> climax, with each being a part of the greater story. Its kind of like the Lord of the Rings? I'm pretty Tolkien envisioned it as a single novel, split into three (or 6 depending) parts. Noone would think that the end of Fellowship is the end of the greater story, but it was undoubtedly a climax, before Two Towers started low key and introducing stuff like the Rohirrim. Same with say, [S]Descend being the climax of acts 1 to 4, before slowing down and 'beginning again' with Act 5.1 and the introduction of the trolls.
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Technique posted:(NOTE: John will be replaced by a faceless anime person due to this.) So Doc Scratch will be the protagonist?
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Suaimhneas posted:So Doc Scratch will be the protagonist? He IS kind of a creepy pedo, so yeah, he's pretty much perfect.
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Kazy posted:Heresy! The sylladex shenanigans are the best part of the first acts The sylladex shenanigans are the absolute worst part of the comic and made the first two acts hell to get through. Homestuck starts at Hivebent
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Dolash posted:It'd have to be a TV series. Or... a movie series!
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Looks like the site is back up, though sadly without upd8s.
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I feel like Homestuck is actually a really good candidate for a TV adaptation. I feel like Homestuck is something I wouldn't recommend to somebody after it's completed; it's too long, clunky, and improvised. A TV (or sort of anything) adaptation would help trim down the plot to its bare essentials, removing the tedium that a lot of archival readers feel while ramping up towards the increasingly long and difficult to parse trollogs. Homestuck has a lot of really brilliant elements to it, but it's incapable of appealing to a large demographic because of Hussie's minimal-to-nonexistent editing tendencies. Any adaptation would bound to be a wildly different experience, and almost certainly a less innovative one, but it would help solve Homestuck's main problem of daunting inaccessibility.
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snucks posted:I feel like Homestuck is actually a really good candidate for a TV adaptation. I feel like Homestuck is something I wouldn't recommend to somebody after it's completed; it's too long, clunky, and improvised. A TV (or sort of anything) adaptation would help trim down the plot to its bare essentials, removing the tedium that a lot of archival readers feel while ramping up towards the increasingly long and difficult to parse trollogs. Homestuck has a lot of really brilliant elements to it, but it's incapable of appealing to a large demographic because of Hussie's minimal-to-nonexistent editing tendencies. WHAT? Homestuck is extremely popular. MSPA gets something like a million unique pageviews every day.
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A million is big for a webcomic, which people can read at their leisure, without usually spending more than a few minutes per day, in a form that's very easily shared. Television routinely reaches larger audiences despite the considerable inconveniences of being presented much less frequently, with sporadic availability, in half-hour- to hour-long chunks that monopolize the television set. These obstacles are compensated for by making it easy to get caught up if you miss an episode here or there, having a premise that is easily restated, and not relying on obscure knowledge, all things that are antithetical to the fundamental conceits of Homestuck. There are some stories that are basically inseparable from their original medium, and Homestuck is one. It would be more effective to take the ideas that drive Homestuck's story and adapt them into something new, sort of like how the adventure game is presumed to be doing it.
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Bongo Bill posted:A million is big for a webcomic, which people can read at their leisure, without usually spending more than a few minutes per day, in a form that's very easily shared. Television routinely reaches larger audiences despite the considerable inconveniences of being presented much less frequently, with sporadic availability, in half-hour- to hour-long chunks that monopolize the television set. These obstacles are compensated for by making it easy to get caught up if you miss an episode here or there, having a premise that is easily restated, and not relying on obscure knowledge, all things that are antithetical to the fundamental conceits of Homestuck. Yeah, I get that. I'm just saying his suggestion that it's "incapable of appealing to a large demographic" is complete bullshit. Considering it's a webcomic, it has an absolutely immense following. If formatted/adapted for television (if that's even possible), it would definitely appeal to an even larger amount of people.
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I would think something like Homestuck would benefit from a approach that the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy went for, in different kinds of media. They're all different flavours of the same story, but changed so that they fit the media better. Might not jive with the fans who are all about what the "one true canon" but I don't care about that kind of stuff myself.
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Oh poo poo, updates! Edit: I'm pretty sure this was meant for a Halloween update. I was expecting bad poo poo to go down by the end, but it just got funnier. Looked for the fan-trolls, but they didn't seem to pop up just yet. Edit 2: Also, "disa-SPEAR" is one of the better fish puns so far. Desfore fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Nov 3, 2012 |
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Oh man, this flash is so  . I can't handle it.edit: Oh god it keeps getting better, I'm not even onto the other pages yet but this is amazing. (except Cronus turned up and he is such a poo poo) ActionZero fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Nov 3, 2012 |
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Jyrraeth posted:I would think something like Homestuck would benefit from a approach that the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy went for, in different kinds of media. They're all different flavours of the same story, but changed so that they fit the media better. I don't think I could handle a Homestuck radioplay if it had exaggerated vocal work for the trolls to bring across their typing quirks. The voice of the guide would make a brilliant analogue for Hussie's self inserts though.
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While a Homestuck tlevision series or movie would be grand, I think it's possible that the story as-is is just simply too tailor-made for it's current medium, and that all the editing required to make it a good show would just involve trimming too much of what made us all like it in the first place. And not even that, even sensible cuts like certain pesterlogs would probably cause a lot of the diehard fans to get unreasonably angry, and probably cause some fissures in the fandom. There would be a lot of people decrying the adaption even if it DID end up pretty good, just because their favorite content was lost. (Hell, I'd probably be pretty upset if the Karkat/John/Dave log didn't make it in some format.) Anyway, I think if anything, it might really require a new story to be made which would translate better to the medium, sort of like how it's been assumed the Homestuck game is going to work in terms of being a real game as opposed to a comic. But who knows, I could be wrong, and maybe it's possible. Also, sylladexes should be in. There's not a lot we really lose by including them other than the need for some time for their gags early on. Triskelli posted:While I agree that the pesterlogs would have to be considerably trimmed, I don't think that it should be transformed from a chat relay to some sort of Skype service, if only because the majority of the humor in pesterlogs comes from people missing messages, or rambling on to themselves while their chum is actually doing something. (I.E. "TT: John, I'm about to throw a bathtub through your wall" or "TG: We're under siege by the planet loving Jupiter") Those kinds of dialogs don't happen between people talking face to face or even to people talking on the phone. I'm sure it'd still be read as text on the other side, but given the lack of keyboards on 60% of the computing machines the characters use aft a while, I'm sure there's some kind of talk-to-text feature at play. blastron posted:Voiceovers would be a must though, gently caress reading long conversations off of a screen. It probably almost goes without saying.
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