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Strabo4 posted:Hydroponic systems can be finicky to get setup right, have the risk of leakage which being you should concern you quite a lot, plus if you accidentally poison them with too much of a nutrient they can die extremely quickly before you can notice and take action. It would be a large expense with unknown profits, big risks, and you'd also have to haul around all the hydroponics gear and lights if you ever moved, and if I recall your car was already stuffed pretty full.
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Yeah, Toeshoe's idea isn't a bad one. Grow your own basil for fun. I think people are just saying this is a stupid idea because Tuyop wants to turn the extra bedroom into a grow op instead of renting it out.
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Nov 3, 2012 22:11
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Aquaponics isn't hydroponics. It's like, aquaculture as well. So we'd have a tank of minnows with tubes taking the fish-fertilized water (bacteria turn the ammonia into nitatratss) into the grow trough, with plants floating on foam rafts. The plants clean the nitrates from the water and the water is returned to the fish by gravity. There's a lot fewer inputs than straight up hydroponics. It sounds so elegant and simple!
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Nov 3, 2012 22:22
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This is the worst idea you have ever posted about. EVER.
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Nov 3, 2012 22:24
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tuyop posted:Aquaponics isn't hydroponics. It's like, aquaculture as well. So we'd have a tank of minnows with tubes taking the fish-fertilized water (bacteria turn the ammonia into nitatratss) into the grow trough, with plants floating on foam rafts. The plants clean the nitrates from the water and the water is returned to the fish by gravity. It sounds like a neat hobby. It sounds like a terrible business proposition. Like something out of a cartoon. Tuyop and Toeshoes' Basil and Tilapia Emporium. You haven't said what you'll do with the fish. Or how much it costs to feed them.
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Nov 3, 2012 22:28
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tuyop posted:So we'd have a tank of minnows with tubes taking the fish-fertilized water (bacteria turn the ammonia into nitatratss) into the grow trough, with plants floating on foam rafts. The plants clean the nitrates from the water and the water is returned to the fish by gravity. What the gently caress. If you guys really do this then I advise you to only let ToeShoes touch the equipment. For safety's sake.
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Nov 3, 2012 22:36
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tuyop posted:There's a lot fewer inputs than straight up hydroponics. It sounds so elegant and simple!  Hooray!
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Nov 3, 2012 22:36
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CuddleChunks posted:And reeks like disgusting fish poop! Yeah have you guys figured out how you'll deal with that/clean the tank? Man, the fish thing is a super bad idea. You are taking a simple concept and making it needlessly complex.
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Nov 3, 2012 22:38
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tuyop posted:Aquaponics isn't hydroponics. It's like, aquaculture as well. So we'd have a tank of minnows with tubes taking the fish-fertilized water (bacteria turn the ammonia into nitatratss) into the grow trough, with plants floating on foam rafts. The plants clean the nitrates from the water and the water is returned to the fish by gravity. I ran the idea through my head at one point and decided against it. You are right though in how elegant the concept is, but it only works well in the tropics where there is no need for an external heat source and the sun is always high in the sky. Also when they are doing it on a big enough scale where they can harvest the fish. Where there is freezing temps and you have to bring it in, then you have to pay money for heat and you lose the sun. Also, remember this is an apartment. What if your cabinets start to warp, what if black mold grows? Isn't your landlord in the mob? If not, he probably knows someone who is. What could possibly go wrong?
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Nov 3, 2012 23:15
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zeta taskforce posted:I ran the idea through my head at one point and decided against it. You are right though in how elegant the concept is, but it only works well in the tropics where there is no need for an external heat source and the sun is always high in the sky. Also when they are doing it on a big enough scale where they can harvest the fish. Where there is freezing temps and you have to bring it in, then you have to pay money for heat and you lose the sun. Sincere question for anybody who knows. When this goes terribly wrong, would flood insurance cover anything at all? Or would that be renter's insurance? Tuyop, it's nitrites and nitrates. And are you talking about minnows like, fishing minnows? Because without proper filtration and care, they're going to die really fast. Nether Postlude posted:Yeah have you guys figured out how you'll deal with that/clean the tank? Man, the fish thing is a super bad idea. You are taking a simple concept and making it needlessly complex. The fish theoretically supply the nutrients for the plants. Remember the old betta fish vases? The fish poo poo supposedly gave the plant nutrients and the fish lived off the roots of the planet. Basically he wants to use basil instead of peace lilies. It's still a really bad idea and it probably won't work well, kinda like those vases, because there's a lot to it. If you guys want herbs, I agree that a window box is a great idea. Heck, you can probably get the supplies now on clearance and wait until spring to pick up the seeds for the basil.
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You guys are so negative. I just want to be like this guy! spog posted:Yeah fair enough - I'm probably grumpy because Tuyop's been posting all kinds of sensible advice in the other thread and now comes up with the idea of turning a room into a grow-op. it's a bit disappointing. Well, taco catman is still on the stage of trying to not spend 80 dollars a month on energy soda, I've moved on to the stage of hair brained schemes that will allow me to become financially independent more quickly! :science101: And if this guy can do it, why can't I? tuyop fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Nov 4, 2012 |
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Nov 4, 2012 01:07
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Hmm, 39 new posts in the tuyop thread, did he go on vacation again or something? *click* 
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tuyop posted:And if this guy can do it, why can't I?
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Nov 4, 2012 02:29
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HookShot posted:your environment for doing this is a spare bedroom you could be using to get yourself out of said crippling debt? Yeah, exactly! With BASIL
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tuyop posted:Yeah, exactly! With BASIL Id say stick with power-bottoming your way out of crippling debt. There's always going to be demand for it*, unlike the unknown variable that will be solved "in time" in your BASIL/FISH poo poo farm. *It is referring your bottom by the way. In case that wasn't clear.
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tuyop posted:Yeah, exactly! With BASIL At least think about it (without spending anything) for at least a week or two. You seem like you're in a manic cycle and that's when you tend to make bad decisions. The basil-growing supplies will still be available in a couple weeks, but you'll have had a chance to get some perspective and maybe also not be on one of your "WHEE lets do a THING right NOW" binges.
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Tuyop, the best investment you can possibly make is to employ someone to follow you around 24/7 and hit you across the head with a bat whenever you think of poo poo like that.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:Sincere question for anybody who knows. When this goes terribly wrong, would flood insurance cover anything at all? Or would that be renter's insurance? No insurance would likely cover this - renters wouldn't cover his stuff, and the landlord quite likely doesn't have stupid poo poo my renters did insurance. This will end in tuyop being chopped up and fed to the fish. Maybe he'd be a good growth additive for the basil.
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Nov 4, 2012 03:54
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You know, the funny thing about this is that growing weed would be saner than growing basil.
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Tuyop, a new shrink is probably a better investment right now than a FISHBASIL SHITTANK. 100% serious. You seem like you'd be doing financially OK if you could address your impulsivity issues.
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tuyop posted:Yeah, exactly! With BASIL Compared to a roommate, which costs you 10 minutes on Kijiji every week, then 10 minutes collecting a cheque every month, without the risk of cops breaking down your door because they think you have a growop, flooding your building, pissing off your landlord and a whole number of other reasons why this is a terrible idea.
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tuyop posted:Yeah, exactly! With BASIL Leperflesh posted:At least think about it (without spending anything) for at least a week or two. You seem like you're in a manic cycle and that's when you tend to make bad decisions. The basil-growing supplies will still be available in a couple weeks, but you'll have had a chance to get some perspective and maybe also not be on one of your "WHEE lets do a THING right NOW" binges. All of this because you happened to help a friend set up his own aquaponics, which he totally swears is going to bring in "$515/m2 per year"(of course, you don't know that he'll get that much money because you're only relying on his own word for it), and then watched a youtube video that supported what you'd already decided you wanted to do. Tuyop, if you want to stop digging yourself deeper into the money hole, you and Toeshoes have to agree to take a step back and wait at least a week(preferably more) before spending more than, say, $50 on something, or jumping into any harebrained schemes(yes, even ones that look like they'll TOTALLY bring in lots of money). The cooldown period will hopefully make the two of you realize that you don't really need whatever it was you were going to buy, or that the moneymaking opportunity isn't actually as great as it seemed at first(as an example: If growing BASIL with aquaponics was such a good moneymaking opportunity, wouldn't a lot more people be doing it? And no, your one aquaponics friend does not count as "a lot more people"). Post what you're considering spending money on here, and goons will be happy to ream you for it if it's actually a dumb idea or something that you don't really need. Spend that week reading a lot more of Mr. Money Moustache, since you seemed to respect his blog a lot over in the Taco Box thread & he seems to have some pretty solid advice. Haifisch fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Nov 4, 2012 |
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BASIL This thread owns.
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Leperflesh posted:At least think about it (without spending anything) for at least a week or two. You seem like you're in a manic cycle and that's when you tend to make bad decisions. The basil-growing supplies will still be available in a couple weeks, but you'll have had a chance to get some perspective and maybe also not be on one of your "WHEE lets do a THING right NOW" binges. Yeah, you're totally right. That's why we have the thirty day list and this thread. And yeah, even though every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted, we're not starting now. We've got at least two more paychecks before we're back into semi-secure emergency fund territory. Then another paycheck to save up for the supplies (hypothetically). Really, that's two months of rental income that that bedroom has cost us in waiting at that point, which will be
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Just get a loving roommate already. You can't make money on BASIL because you're not smart enough. Let's not forget you're the idiot who ended up with frostbite on you toes because you didn't realize how winter worked.
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Shine on you crazy diamond! This is a terrible idea, but it certainly will keep me entertained.
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Ok, ok. Tuyop, I get your idea. You're planning on growing basil in the room. How are you planning on selling it? I know it has to be in one of the posts but they were all too long.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:I don't even write the stuff and I follow the thread because it's just so damned interesting to see how things go for them from month to month. If you really want to write porn, I can't suggest talking to them about it enough. Oh god why are you trying to send him to us... Seriously though tuyop, if you can't spend the 30 seconds necessary to google "amazon top selling erotica" and look to see if "straight normal person erotica" (whatever that means to you) is selling, then you probably aren't in the correct headspace to start making money at it anyway. The market is getting tougher to break into every day, and you're about six months behind with the gay werewolf poo poo. (Is he kidding about the BASIL? Someone please tell me he's kidding.)
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tuyop posted:And yeah, even though every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted, we're not starting now. I'm not sure if this sentence has ever been expressed in the English language. I'm not hip to anything anymore, we are talking about the herb used to make pesto? BASIL isn't some code the cool kids use? Also, tuyop you did right by sharing this with us.
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TF posted:Oh god why are you trying to send him to us... You know what? If Tuyop doesn't write Broke Back Mountin', I'm going to take all the events in this thread and write them into a comedic homoerotic romance novellette with the same title. My current serial is wrapping up at the end of November anyway, so that'd be the perfect time to start a new long project. If life gives you lemons, don't let someone else sell your lemonade. 
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Countdown until tuyop's marijuana operation gets busted.
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I don't plan on making our bedroom into a basil factory. We don't even have pictures of the apartment up with the Kijiji ad, so we are taking pictures tonight and hopefully getting a room mate faster. No one has come to look at the apartment except my friend from work, and she said no. We are also going to print an ad off and bring it to the Honda factory, maybe more people will become interested.
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NinaDeRosa posted:If life gives you lemons, don't let someone else sell your lemonade. I want this as a tattoo.
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Tuyop, I've been out of the BFC loop for a bit so I'm just going to address the most recent chapter in a long line of chapters that constitute the epic saga that is The Extraordinary Misadventures of The Unluckiest Man in Canada Your "basil" idea is literally the worst and not something you should be wasting time, effort or money on. Besides, with your track record you'll just end up having it literally catch your apartment on fire and the it will all fall into a lake or something. Just don't. Having said that, I'll move onto something constructive. Your graphs you posted recently show some progress, which is excellent but it's tenuous at this point and all it would take is something going wrong (basil operation going down into a lake of flames for instance) to completely wipe out any progress. Basically what I'm saying is don't be an idiot, get a roommate for extra income and keep on making some progress in the right direction.
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If my childhood love of Little House on the Prairie taught me anything, it's that anticipating money coming in from crops pretty much guarantees disaster. Locusts! Early snow! Crows! In your case, Mold! Flooding! Fish Stench! Rotting plants! Cops! Mafia landlord with a bat wanting a cut! Something bad will happen. You're moving in six months. Maybe save the major capital investments, especially in equipment that you'd have to transport or sell, until then. And remember that there's a learning curve for this stuff. Buying equipment and setting it up is not instant profit. How much time does one have to invest in a farm in one's spare room?
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He's talking about actual weed and doesn't want to incriminate himself, you dumb dumb idiots. (not as much of a dumb dumb idiot as he is; he's posted enough to incriminate and identify himself several times ever)
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juche mane posted:He's talking about actual weed and doesn't want to incriminate himself, you dumb dumb idiots. I'm assuming as much. Yep, no time like when you're entangled in military paperwork to risk a drug conviction.
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No, he actually means basil.
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It is still an incredibly stupid idea and I think it'll be maybe 1-2 weeks before he confesses he went on a binge and bought all the equipment before thinking it over. He will then talk about the disastrous flooding that resulted and forced him to turn over all his capital and stock to mafioso landlord and move out. In the erotic novelization, that chapter will be titled "so long, and thanks for all the fish."
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juche mane posted:He's talking about actual weed and doesn't want to incriminate himself, you dumb dumb idiots.  ToeShoes posted:No, he actually means basil. I'm sorry Miss, I think you mean BASIL 
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