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Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

td4guy posted:

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you...one of the luckiest goons ever!

Seriously, I was astonished. I left Best Buy a year ago and knew the day would come I got audited. Phone got shut off yesterday, I fully expected to have to go on a full plan with my company's 12% discount. I asked why my phone got shut off, he said "It looks like you were flagged during an audit as being ineligible for your current plan. If you would like, I can transfer you to what is called our 'SERO premium' plan. It will be a bit more money, but still a fantastic deal."

Dude got a survey with all 5's from me for sure.

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atomicvocabulary
Oct 21, 2002

Say hello to the sunrise for me...
I can't believe he gave you a SERO plan. It's loving November of 2012.

Giblet
Jun 19, 2003

Smooth like whiskey
So I'll be getting an Optimus G for free off contract through work once they are in inventory. I'll make sure to give a review once I get to play around with it.

atomicvocabulary posted:

I can't believe he gave you a SERO plan. It's loving November of 2012.

The sero plan is in fact a current plan that people are added to regularly. It is just back to its original intention as the sprint employee retention offer.

Giblet fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Nov 2, 2012

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

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I remember when SERO plans were $100 on eBay. Now they're like $250.

bigpolar
Jun 19, 2003

Giblet posted:


The sero plan is in fact a current plan that people are added to regularly. It is just back to its original intention as the sprint employee retention offer.

It used to be the sprint employee referral offer, not retention. It was originally a perk sprint employees could give to friends, and it required a name and an ID #. I think employees were limited to a finite number of referrals each month, 25 or 50?

Then sprint was trying to improve its customer service image by interacting with the consumerist blog. They started out giving consumerist readers a special customer service number, then they offered readers the SERO plan using a name with unlimited activations. Then fatwallet publicized the deal and it exploded in popularity, but sprint's churn was so bad at the time they allowed it to continue. Speculation was that they were using SERO to drive up subscriber numbers to improve stock prices in order to finance what turned out to be the clear wire deal and wimax.

Once their customer numbers were up they started driving SERO customers to more profitable plans. EPRP replaced SERO as the friends perk. Which is where I thought things were today. If they are back to offering SERO that is pretty big news.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
My bet is the poster is actually on EPRP, not SERO, since it endsd up being a tiny bit more expensive than his now-defunct employee discount plan.

ddogflex
Sep 19, 2004

blahblahblah

Lovie Unsmith posted:

I remember when SERO plans were $100 on eBay. Now they're like $250.

I thought you can't even TOL them? ...Who wants to buy my SERO plan? :D

poxin
Nov 16, 2003

Why yes... I am full of stars!
I was on EPRP about this time last year and was talking to a nice woman at sprint about my lack of signal at my new rental home. She gave me an airrave and put me in SERO. :) It does happen.

Edit: That being said, can you actually legitimately sell a SERO account? I'll probably be jumping ship here soon.

poxin fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Nov 2, 2012

Giblet
Jun 19, 2003

Smooth like whiskey

bigpolar posted:

It used to be the sprint employee referral offer, not retention. It was originally a perk sprint employees could give to friends, and it required a name and an ID #. I think employees were limited to a finite number of referrals each month, 25 or 50?

Then sprint was trying to improve its customer service image by interacting with the consumerist blog. They started out giving consumerist readers a special customer service number, then they offered readers the SERO plan using a name with unlimited activations. Then fatwallet publicized the deal and it exploded in popularity, but sprint's churn was so bad at the time they allowed it to continue. Speculation was that they were using SERO to drive up subscriber numbers to improve stock prices in order to finance what turned out to be the clear wire deal and wimax.

Once their customer numbers were up they started driving SERO customers to more profitable plans. EPRP replaced SERO as the friends perk. Which is where I thought things were today. If they are back to offering SERO that is pretty big news.

I apologize I got it's history a little wrong, that being said employees leaving Sprint and friends and family that were on SWAC accounts are eligible for SERO. What I was getting at is that the plan is still alive and well with people getting added to it all the time. You just can't get it anymore when threatening to cancel like you used to.

ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001

bigpolar posted:

EPRP replaced SERO as the friends perk. Which is where I thought things were today. If they are back to offering SERO that is pretty big news.
I don't know about "friends", but Sprint Wireless Advantage Club is probably the comparable sponsorable perk. It's $40/mo for what amounts to $50/mo SERO (including the $10/mo smartphone data).

The catch is that the account liability falls on the employee who sponsors you. If you deadbeat on the plan, he ends up with the ETF. Similarly I think handset upgrades have to go through the sponsor too.

I'm also not really sure what happens when the sponsor leaves Sprint.

Giblet posted:

that being said employees leaving Sprint and friends and family that were on SWAC accounts are eligible for SERO.
Aha, that answers that.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

mastershakeman posted:

My bet is the poster is actually on EPRP, not SERO, since it endsd up being a tiny bit more expensive than his now-defunct employee discount plan.

Nope, SERO Premium 500. I'm guessing it's just a standard offer when people leave employee plans (I've had this one since 2001, so I'm a long time "employee")

bigpolar
Jun 19, 2003
I don't think SERO ever had liability falling on the employees, which is why it had limited availability for a while. I don't know a lot of people at sprint who trust friends enough to assume liability like that though. I know I wouldn't do it for any of my friends.

Looking at the features, SWAC looks just like SERO but with a discount to cover the premium data. That $20 option makes switching to a dumb phone again almost appealing though. Phones cheap enough to not need insurance at all, and still get unlimited texting. If I didn't stream Internet radio at work I would try to drop back to normal SERO again.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

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ddogflex posted:

I thought you can't even TOL them? ...Who wants to buy my SERO plan? :D

Apparently you can only TOL them to somebody who already has one and wants to add an extra line, although somebody here had trouble with that just recently.

moolchaba
Jul 21, 2007
I was really leaning towards the Samsung Note 2, until it was pointed out that it can't do simultaneous 3G data and voice (like the S3 does). The consolation being it can do LTE data and voice, which will be great once my town gets the upgrade in 2018.

loving gently caress fucks. Guess I'll wait a till spring to see what's coming down the pipe.

FlyingCheese
Jan 17, 2007
OH THANK GOD!

I never thought I'd be happy to see yet another lubed up man-ass.
What's the best used android phone you can get for ~$150? Water damage is awesome.

dundun
Oct 29, 2005
H E R B

moolchaba posted:

I was really leaning towards the Samsung Note 2, until it was pointed out that it can't do simultaneous 3G data and voice (like the S3 does). The consolation being it can do LTE data and voice, which will be great once my town gets the upgrade in 2018.

loving gently caress fucks. Guess I'll wait a till spring to see what's coming down the pipe.

Whats the point of having 3g and voice simultaneously?

falz
Jan 29, 2005

01100110 01100001 01101100 01111010
There were a lot of att/ iPhone commercials to make you feel inferior if you couldn't talk and search for places for dinner at the same time.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

falz posted:

There were a lot of att/ iPhone commercials to make you feel inferior if you couldn't talk and search for places for dinner at the same time.

I'm about to work for these bastards, and i still always agree about how retarded the campaign on voice and text at the same time is, and yet how effective it somehow was.

ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001

bigpolar posted:

I don't know a lot of people at sprint who trust friends enough to assume liability like that though. I know I wouldn't do it for any of my friends.
It's fine if you take a deposit for the ETF amount. I think kbar does that with his five-line "family"-plan he's always talking about. I'd totally fork over a $350 deposit for $40/mo service if I didn't already have SERO.

Duckman2008 posted:

I'm about to work for these bastards, and i still always agree about how retarded the campaign on voice and text at the same time is, and yet how effective it somehow was.
It's probably less about how it's (not) a critical feature, but rather that it seems like such a braindead simple concept that it makes your hardware/network retarded if you can't do it.

I'm actually kind of amused by the effort that went into SVDO devices like the SGS3. They had to duplicate the CDMA signal path just to support that one feature. Although honestly it's a nice (if useless) consolation prize for stepping down from a WiMXAX device to an LTE device in a WiMAX-but-not-LTE market that won't see LTE for another year or two.

moolchaba
Jul 21, 2007

dundun posted:

Whats the point of having 3g and voice simultaneously?

It's not something everyone relies on, but I tether a lot. Being able to chat with someone on the phone while I remote their computer or talking to a friend while streaming necrophiliac porn is something I treasure.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



I didn't know the SGSIII could do that...

Is it worth using TouchWiz for or can custom stock-ish ROMs do it too?

thenakedflip
Feb 22, 2005
My wife and I upgraded to Note 2s this week. We are absolutely loving it. The size hasn't been an issue at all and I can't imagine going smaller now. The only thing I wish it had was the multi window option that the International version has, but I'm assuming it will be released as an OTA update later on.

Giblet
Jun 19, 2003

Smooth like whiskey

ThermoPhysical posted:

I didn't know the SGSIII could do that...

Is it worth using TouchWiz for or can custom stock-ish ROMs do it too?

To be honest the only thing that I dislike about touchwiz is that I cant silence the shutter sound to take pictures of crazy people at Walmart. Bloatware can be hidden and no need to overclock. Maybe if you want a tethering app.

Vykk.Draygo
Jan 17, 2004

I say salesmen and women of the world unite!

ThermoPhysical posted:

I didn't know the SGSIII could do that...

Is it worth using TouchWiz for or can custom stock-ish ROMs do it too?

I'm almost positive that SVDO was added to CM10 for the Sprint SGS3 many months ago. I've never tested it, but I think it's there.

Krime
Jul 30, 2003

Somebody has to do the scoring around here.

thenakedflip posted:

My wife and I upgraded to Note 2s this week. We are absolutely loving it. The size hasn't been an issue at all and I can't imagine going smaller now. The only thing I wish it had was the multi window option that the International version has, but I'm assuming it will be released as an OTA update later on.

Welcome to the Note 2 club! :):hf::)

My only gripe so far is that the stock messaging app doesn't give enough real estate for the conversation. They keyboard takes up 1/2 the screen, the contact, and message you are entering take up a huge portion, leaving about 1/4 of the screen for the actual conversation.

Also, I miss the directional keyboard buttons from my EVO keyboard.

Krime fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Nov 3, 2012

ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001

Vykk.Draygo posted:

I'm almost positive that SVDO was added to CM10 for the Sprint SGS3 many months ago. I've never tested it, but I think it's there.
Yes, CM10 has SVDO support.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



Vykk.Draygo posted:

I'm almost positive that SVDO was added to CM10 for the Sprint SGS3 many months ago. I've never tested it, but I think it's there.


ExcessBLarg! posted:

Yes, CM10 has SVDO support.

Hmm...basically, so if I just grab an SGSIII and put CM10 on it, I could have a sort-of Nexus device with mostly stock OS, fast updates and the ability to use 3G while calling?

ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001

ThermoPhysical posted:

Hmm...basically, so if I just grab an SGSIII and put CM10 on it, I could have a sort-of Nexus device with mostly stock OS, fast updates and the ability to use 3G while calling?
Yeah pretty much.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



ExcessBLarg! posted:

Yeah pretty much.

Hmm I might stay on Sprint then. I'm kind of in a confusion about that.

If you don't mind, I have more questions.
Are there some things the Nexus 4 may be able to do that the SGS III + CM10 couldn't? Like HDR mode in the camera app, PhotoSphere, Face Unlock, offline Voice to Text, Saying "Google" to activate Voice Search while in Google Now, basically all of the things the Nexus S is missing on ICS/Jelly Bean. :v:

Would the phone last me a while with a dual-core processor? I mean the LG Nexus has a quad core so I don't know. How does Samsung's processor stack up to the quad-core in the Nexus 4/Optimus G?

Would the Sprint Optimus G be a better choice than the Sprint SGSIII if the bootloader is unlocked and CM10 officially put on it?

Another question is, is the Sprint SGSIII officially supported for CM? I checked their site and they don't seem to be up to date. I think the last SGS phone is the SGSII.

Vykk.Draygo
Jan 17, 2004

I say salesmen and women of the world unite!

ThermoPhysical posted:

Another question is, is the Sprint SGSIII officially supported for CM? I checked their site and they don't seem to be up to date. I think the last SGS phone is the SGSII.

Yes. It's listed as d2spr (d2 being the SGS3 designation, spr for Sprint).

ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001

ThermoPhysical posted:

Are there some things the Nexus 4 may be able to do that the SGS III + CM10 couldn't?
Honestly I can't say, I don't really use any of that fancy stuff. Will have to wait for the Nexus 4 to release and folks to complain that other devices don't do what it does.

ThermoPhysical posted:

Would the phone last me a while with a dual-core processor?
Personally I'm of the opinion that 2011-generation dual-core CPUs are sufficient for any mobile usage I forsee in the near future. Hell, I don't even have a PC with more than two cores.

I don't know, maybe Google will release some killer app that's particularly CPU intensive. I'd be kind of surprised though.

ThermoPhysical posted:

How does Samsung's processor stack up to the quad-core in the Nexus 4/Optimus G?
It's literally the same CPU core, just only two of them instead of four. The N4/OG does have twice the L2 cache (which is shared across twice as many cores). The big difference is that the GPU (Adreno 320) on the N4/OG is a significant upgrade to the MSM8960 (Adreno 225). I mean, the Adreno 225 is quite good now, but somehow folks find ways to max out GPUs in games and such.

ThermoPhysical posted:

Would the Sprint Optimus G be a better choice than the Sprint SGSIII if the bootloader is unlocked and CM10 officially put on it?
I can't really say. The big mystery here is whether the Sprint Optimus G will be supported or not. It's not a foregone conclusion. The Sprint CM developers are pretty invested in the SGS3 and Evo LTE for "this" generation, with others still providing support for legacy devices, so I'm not sure how popular the Optimus G will be.

In contrast there's a few reasons why the SGS3 is reasonably well supported. A big one is that it was the second of Sprint's "second-gen" LTE devices (the Galaxy Nexus being a first-gen) that utilized a relatively-open underlying platform, and another is that the device came out right near the 22-month upgrade date for folks who picked up the original Evo and Epic devices at launch.

ThermoPhysical posted:

Another question is, is the Sprint SGSIII officially supported for CM?
Yes.

ThermoPhysical
Dec 26, 2007



ExcessBLarg! posted:

Honestly I can't say, I don't really use any of that fancy stuff. Will have to wait for the Nexus 4 to release and folks to complain that other devices don't do what it does.

Personally I'm of the opinion that 2011-generation dual-core CPUs are sufficient for any mobile usage I forsee in the near future. Hell, I don't even have a PC with more than two cores.

I don't know, maybe Google will release some killer app that's particularly CPU intensive. I'd be kind of surprised though.

It's literally the same CPU core, just only two of them instead of four. The N4/OG does have twice the L2 cache (which is shared across twice as many cores). The big difference is that the GPU (Adreno 320) on the N4/OG is a significant upgrade to the MSM8960 (Adreno 225). I mean, the Adreno 225 is quite good now, but somehow folks find ways to max out GPUs in games and such.

I can't really say. The big mystery here is whether the Sprint Optimus G will be supported or not. It's not a foregone conclusion. The Sprint CM developers are pretty invested in the SGS3 and Evo LTE for "this" generation, with others still providing support for legacy devices, so I'm not sure how popular the Optimus G will be.

In contrast there's a few reasons why the SGS3 is reasonably well supported. A big one is that it was the second of Sprint's "second-gen" LTE devices (the Galaxy Nexus being a first-gen) that utilized a relatively-open underlying platform, and another is that the device came out right near the 22-month upgrade date for folks who picked up the original Evo and Epic devices at launch.

Yes.

Hm..would you say the Galaxy Nexus is still a viable phone for the next two years as it's from 2011 as well?

I'm not sure if 1GB of RAM will be enough for it in 2013-2014.

Another question is, since my contract would be up in 20 months instead of 22, wouldn't my contract end in January of 2015 instead of March if I decided to stay with Sprint?

Hoppin Tin
Mar 5, 2004

SURFS UP BRO!
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Try and convince me on staying with my SERO plan. I've had an evo 4g since release and I'm thinking of going to virgin mobile for $30 a month. Its only 300 minutes, but I don't talk much and there's ways around that limitation.... so why should I keep paying $70 a month? ( planning to get an iPhone 5 when its released)

Giblet
Jun 19, 2003

Smooth like whiskey

ThermoPhysical posted:

Another question is, since my contract would be up in 20 months instead of 22, wouldn't my contract end in January of 2015 instead of March if I decided to stay with Sprint?

I think you are confusing contracts and upgrade dates. Contracts are all 24 months.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

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Why is my phone's clock behind by one hour? It's as if it rolled back 2 hours overnight instead of just 1 :psyduck:

Edit: I just disabled and re-enabled Mobile Network and the time corrected itself.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Hoppin Tin posted:

Try and convince me on staying with my SERO plan. I've had an evo 4g since release and I'm thinking of going to virgin mobile for $30 a month. Its only 300 minutes, but I don't talk much and there's ways around that limitation.... so why should I keep paying $70 a month? ( planning to get an iPhone 5 when its released)

Virgin mobile is sprint with no roaming and shittier phones. So if you like having even worse coverage with a not up to date phone to save $20 (with no customer support as well), go for it.

For some people it's def viable, but if you have SERO I wouldn't recommend it.

TLG James
Jun 5, 2000

Questing ain't easy

Lovie Unsmith posted:

Why is my phone's clock behind by one hour? It's as if it rolled back 2 hours overnight instead of just 1 :psyduck:

Edit: I just disabled and re-enabled Mobile Network and the time corrected itself.

It seems to always do this.

It's like it auto rolls back an hour on it's own and it goes back an hour off of sprint's time.

ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001

ThermoPhysical posted:

Hm..would you say the Galaxy Nexus is still a viable phone for the next two years as it's from 2011 as well?
Hardware viability is a separate issue from software support. Given that the Nexus S is still supported in Jellybean, despite being at the thresholds of its capability, I'd hope that Google would support the Galaxy Nexus as long as possible. But who knows.

The radio setup on the CDMA/LTE Galaxy Nexus is awful though. It's not worth it.

ThermoPhysical posted:

I'm not sure if 1GB of RAM will be enough for it in 2013-2014.
Why not?

Hoppin Tin posted:

so why should I keep paying $70 a month?
That's a really high monthly cost for SERO 500. Are you on the minimum minutes plan? Do you really pay $20/mo in taxes and surcharges?

Birdemani
Nov 4, 2012

Lovie Unsmith posted:

Why is my phone's clock behind by one hour? It's as if it rolled back 2 hours overnight instead of just 1 :psyduck:

Edit: I just disabled and re-enabled Mobile Network and the time corrected itself.

If you are on LTE, there is a known bug that is setting your timezone to EST. It' something the admin at s4gru.com has been discussing for a few months. It will get fixed however there is no ETA. The only way to prevent it is to disable auto-time in settings.

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Hoppin Tin
Mar 5, 2004

SURFS UP BRO!
Fun Shoe

ExcessBLarg! posted:



That's a really high monthly cost for SERO 500. Are you on the minimum minutes plan? Do you really pay $20/mo in taxes and surcharges?

I'm paying $59.99 a month, plus $10 for premium data plus $7 in surcharges.... How are any of you doing only $50 a month?

I used to have the $30 SERO, but then to upgrade to a Evo4G they said I had to up my plan. Is there any way to bring it down? I'd stay with Sprint if it was $50


EDIT: Yeah so I didn't even notice this for 2 years, but I called Sprint and they said I've been off the SERO plan for two years now. gently caress sprint. I'm out

Hoppin Tin fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Nov 4, 2012

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