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dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

Anyone got any good suggestions for safe pressure strings with Task or clever ways of opening folks up? I'm not very good at these two aspects, I think.

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Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug
Isn't task pressure shield skills, shield skills, cancel into arrows or shark sting? If you cancel into arrows it's safe.

Chaotic Flame
Jun 1, 2009

So...


Dren posted:

Isn't task pressure shield skills, shield skills, cancel into arrows or shark sting? If you cancel into arrows it's safe.

That's all I ever see online.

bouncyman
Oct 27, 2009
Alright I've lost to like three people online that just do jumping H? S? (the diagonal downward attack with the chain) with Ghost Rider and call beam assist. I have no idea what to do against it and feel like I'm just locked down the whole match. My team is Nova (Overhead), Hulk (Anti Air), Doom (Rocks). Any advice would be appreciated

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

bouncyman posted:

Alright I've lost to like three people online that just do jumping H? S? (the diagonal downward attack with the chain) with Ghost Rider and call beam assist. I have no idea what to do against it and feel like I'm just locked down the whole match. My team is Nova (Overhead), Hulk (Anti Air), Doom (Rocks). Any advice would be appreciated

That's jump S. As for Ghost Rider, maybe you should start Hulk and abuse the gently caress out of your standing H and gamma charge. Also walk towards him as you start the match so he doesn't get any distance on you.

Fellblade
Apr 28, 2009

bouncyman posted:

Alright I've lost to like three people online that just do jumping H? S? (the diagonal downward attack with the chain) with Ghost Rider and call beam assist. I have no idea what to do against it and feel like I'm just locked down the whole match. My team is Nova (Overhead), Hulk (Anti Air), Doom (Rocks). Any advice would be appreciated

Block it/them, super jump at him while blocking, punish whatever unsafe button he pushes.

bouncyman
Oct 27, 2009

TaurusOxford posted:

That's jump S. As for Ghost Rider, maybe you should start Hulk and abuse the gently caress out of your standing H and gamma charge. Also walk towards him as you start the match so he doesn't get any distance on you.

I tried this.. but the chain seems to beat both standing H and the start up for gamma charge is too slow... yeah if I can't pressure him at the beginning of the match, I have no clue how to get in on him once he gets to mid/full screen

Super Rad
Feb 15, 2003
Sir Loin of Beef
You're going to have to learn

a) When it's safe to superjump

b) What you can do after the superjump to keep Ghost Rider from re-establishing pressure

c) What hyper/DHC options you have to punish predictable assist calls

Also in most cases you NEVER want to pushblock Ghostrider unless it's going to negate some sort of high/low mixup.

Unlike more traditional fighting games good avoidance is more important in umvc3 than good defense - the best way to deal with a pressure game is being somewhere else and using any whiffs as your golden opportunity to establish your offense.

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


With doom, super jump and. Finger lasers or plasma beam? Even if the two of you are just shooting stuff diagonally for a ton of the match, you should be able to punish an assist.

Or, if you feel like burning a lot of resources, with nova on point, you can combo off rocket punch super with xfactor, right? Seems like you actually could take out an assist like that since Nova hits sorta hard.

bouncyman
Oct 27, 2009

Super Rad posted:

You're going to have to learn

a) When it's safe to superjump

b) What you can do after the superjump to keep Ghost Rider from re-establishing pressure

c) What hyper/DHC options you have to punish predictable assist calls

Also in most cases you NEVER want to pushblock Ghostrider unless it's going to negate some sort of high/low mixup.

Unlike more traditional fighting games good avoidance is more important in umvc3 than good defense - the best way to deal with a pressure game is being somewhere else and using any whiffs as your golden opportunity to establish your offense.

Yeah I think I just need to be more patient and learn when to super jump and try to approach from above. Just feels like I'm constantly locked down/in block stun. What's bad about pushblocking Ghostrider?

Boxman posted:

Or, if you feel like burning a lot of resources, with nova on point, you can combo off rocket punch super with xfactor, right? Seems like you actually could take out an assist like that since Nova hits sorta hard.

Pretty sure rocket punch super gets stuffed by the jump S. but I'll give this a try... maybe the gravametric shield thing would work combined with javelins?

SigmusAmadeus
Apr 12, 2007
Lawlerbot
Guy lost two money matches and starts crying. Brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcyxFNuQlwo

Super Rad
Feb 15, 2003
Sir Loin of Beef

bouncyman posted:

What's bad about pushblocking Ghostrider?

Pushblocking in general adds extra blockstun frames to the move that you blocked, which would go counter to escaping his pressure.

Occasionally having extra recovery frames is to your advantage since it will momentarily negate any high/low mixups giving more time to react.

E: And Ghostrider is weaker the closer he is to you, you never want to push him away, use proximity to out-prioritize his normals or just go for the grab. Event a tech against Ghostrider puts you at the advantage since he is so rear end up close, I think Pheonix Wright may be the only character with assier up close normals.

Super Rad fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Nov 6, 2012

Wozbo
Jul 5, 2010

SigmusAmadeus posted:

Guy lost two money matches and starts crying. Brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcyxFNuQlwo

Yeeeeeeesh, I actually feel bad for the dude.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy
Everyone should sub DatCORNBread on youtube anyway.

Coca Koala
Nov 28, 2005

ongoing nowhere
College Slice
What's the story here? He wanted to play good people even though he knows he's free, which is fine; the best way to get better is to play good people. And he wanted them to take it seriously so he put money on the line; that's also fine, assuming you don't care about the money you know you're going to lose.

But he appeared to put money on the line while also caring very much about losing money, while also knowing he was going to lose, and I'm not clear about why he did that. He says he doesn't care about the money and he's got a job; were people hassling the guy off camera and then turned it on for an interview? If that's the case, then I do feel bad for him. He's trying to get better and wants these guys to take him seriously; if they're calling him a scrub and making him cry because he's free, that's the sort of poo poo you expect from third graders.

Edit: Yeah, on a second watch it seriously just looks like it's schoolyard-level bullying. That's stupid and it doesn't make them look good at all. I'm betting the tears have nothing to do with the fact that he lost ninety bucks and everything to do with the fact that while he was trying to play and learn and improve himself, a bunch of jackasses were standing behind him shouting, in his ear with a megaphone, "You gonna get hosed, nigga! Unh unh unh! Oh, we like it wet! Don't you move, nigga; you gonna do that? Don't move, we gonna gently caress you!".

Coca Koala fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Nov 6, 2012

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Coca Koala posted:

Edit: Yeah, on a second watch it seriously just looks like it's schoolyard-level bullying. That's stupid and it doesn't make them look good at all.

He's a grown man crying because he lost at a videogame against another player he had no chance in loving hell of beating. I can respect that he wanted to at least be able to tell people "Noel Brown kicked my rear end and was actually trying", but not if he's gonna cry like a little girl after the fact.

Guilty
May 3, 2003
Ask me about how people having a bad reaction to MSG makes them racist, because I've never heard of gluten sensitivity
No grown man I know with a job would ever pay 90 bucks for video game lessons

SigmusAmadeus
Apr 12, 2007
Lawlerbot
Oh no someone was talking poo poo in a competitive environment with money on the line, better cry about it in front of a large group of people!!

dangerdoom volvo
Nov 5, 2009
Takes a real man to show his emotions.

Fereydun
May 9, 2008

Money matching top level players does nothing for you in Marvel, so it was a complete waste. In this game you need to play long sets if you're not good- you don't learn anything from getting steamrolled, and a far better player will steamroll the gently caress out of you.

In general of having to 'pay' better players to play you is stupid- even moreso when it's not even a truthful concept.

Fellblade
Apr 28, 2009
Every single person in that video is pathetic, especially whoever is holding the camera.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy

Fereydun posted:

In general of having to 'pay' better players to play you is stupid- even moreso when it's not even a truthful concept.

I disagree that money matching a good player won't help your game, it absolutely will. But unless you're super-godlike which almost no one is, there are a shitton of people better than you who will play you just for fun.

Seymour Butts
Jun 26, 2003
I break girls in like baseball gloves
That's why you don't gamble with money that you can't afford to lose.

Super Rad
Feb 15, 2003
Sir Loin of Beef
While I feel bad for the guy, watching him say "I'm not a real nigga" through his sobs and sniffles did make me laugh uncontrollably. If that makes me a bad person then I am fine with that.

Thank you, merciless bullies, for brightening a rather lovely workday.

Coca Koala
Nov 28, 2005

ongoing nowhere
College Slice

Super Rad posted:

While I feel bad for the guy, watching him say "I'm not a real nigga" through his sobs and sniffles did make me laugh uncontrollably. If that makes me a bad person then I am fine with that.

Thank you, merciless bullies, for brightening a rather lovely workday.

Yes. In the video's defense, that part of the video was honestly hilarious.

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

bouncyman posted:

Alright I've lost to like three people online that just do jumping H? S? (the diagonal downward attack with the chain) with Ghost Rider and call beam assist. I have no idea what to do against it and feel like I'm just locked down the whole match. My team is Nova (Overhead), Hulk (Anti Air), Doom (Rocks). Any advice would be appreciated

Super jump and abuse fly. Ghost Rider can't do poo poo against people that hang out above him. You can also hang out in the air forever with Nova even after your fly time expires by abusing Gravimetric Pulses, and even then, you can come down with an Air S to catch them crouching and immediately confirm into a long combo, Superjump up and then dash down quickly and try to hit them with a super ambiguous air H, use Hulk's Anti-Air assist to give yourself some space and start spamming shields and Energy Javelins with Nova, also, you can use Nova's Centurion Rush H backed up with Doom's Rocks to stay safe and blast through any projectiles or beams the opponent is throwing out there. Also, after a j.S I believe Ghost Rider cannot do anything else on the whole way down, so just jump in there and grab these fools after blocking that S.

Seriously though, just Superjump, fly, do Human Rocket M and H to fly around the screen, use Gravimetric Pulses to keep up there, and then try to come down above the opponent with an ambiguous air H or air S. Something about air S makes people want to crouch and I don't know why but it works. It is extremely unsafe if blocked, however.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy
If you guys want a real treat, check the comments on that video. The guy who stars in it commented.

the guy in the video posted:

That's me in the video!

Yeah, I'm kind of known in Columbus for doing money matches I probably can't win.

Normally I save the crying for when I get home, but the heckling during the match kinda got to me. I'm a bit of an embarrassment to all that know me.

some random dude posted:

The same guy pulled some dumb poo poo at some anime con in 2011. Lost a Smash tourney, grabbed a couple of controllers and started smashing them. Con security had to escort him out.

the guy in the video posted:

I suppose I can't stress enough that I wasn't crying from the match itself, but because the con banned the Ice Climbers halfway through the tournament.
Of course, there's no excuse for what I did and I've done everything I can to make sure it won't happen again. After all, I didn't throw a tantrum at Youmacon, did I? All I did was cry like a bitch, which isn't hurting anyone.

Dren
Jan 5, 2001

Pillbug
Holy loving poo poo. That guy has no business money matching anyone, especially those guys. Pretty funny though.

Mr. Fun
Sep 22, 2006

ABSOLUTE KINOGRAPHY
How do you let yourself get to a point where you are famous for crying & throwing tantrums in public after losing videogames?

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021
Well NOW I feel bad for him, cause he clearly has issues and needs a psychiatrist.

Coca Koala
Nov 28, 2005

ongoing nowhere
College Slice
:stare: I take back everything I said. I still think the CORN heckling is dumb as gently caress but I no longer believe that has anything to do with this child's tears.

Wozbo
Jul 5, 2010

Coca Koala posted:

:stare: I take back everything I said. I still think the CORN heckling is dumb as gently caress but I no longer believe that has anything to do with this child's tears.

Yeah, I thought "There has to be a story behind this, nobody is this hosed up over a game." Welp.

KingShiro
Jan 10, 2008

EH?!?!?!

Mr. Fun posted:

How do you let yourself get to a point where you are famous for crying & throwing tantrums in public after losing videogames?

Good question for F.Champ

Mr. Fun
Sep 22, 2006

ABSOLUTE KINOGRAPHY

KingShiro posted:

Good question for F.Champ

He might be more embarrassing when he wins.

Super Rad
Feb 15, 2003
Sir Loin of Beef

Mr. Fun posted:

He might be more embarrassing when he wins.

Truth, his favorite stunt to pull when he comes back from a loser's bracket is to call out whomever sent him to losers as playing stupidly - uh yeah I'm sure plenty of people make it to winners finals in a major by playing so far below your level FChamp.

Ybrik
Jan 1, 2008



Super Rad posted:

Truth, his favorite stunt to pull when he comes back from a loser's bracket is to call out whomever sent him to losers as playing stupidly - uh yeah I'm sure plenty of people make it to winners finals in a major by playing so far below your level FChamp.

Lets just all be thankful that Pelican is no longer a thing.

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy
drat I thought the guy in that video loved to cry, but looking at all these posts about f champ...

EmperorFritoBandito
Aug 7, 2010

by exmarx

Jmcrofts posted:

drat I thought the guy in that video loved to cry, but looking at all these posts about f champ...

Can't fault 'em for the truth.

iPodschun
Dec 29, 2004

Sherlock House
Here's something about the game: Viscant posted about Nova/Spencer/Strange on Brokentier's blog. I feel like his posts about UMvC3 are must-reads, so curious to see what he says about team Nemo/Yipes/Combofiend.

http://www.brokentier.com/blogs/news/6858070-viscants-breakdown-of-nova-spencer-dr-strange

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Jan 1, 2008



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