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mindphlux
Jan 8, 2004

by R. Guyovich
on other fronts :

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/dining/reviews/restaurant-review-guys-american-kitchen-bar-in-times-square.html?_r=0



ahahhahahahahahahhahahah >_<

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therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat
So they didn't like it then? I couldn't quite tell.

pork never goes bad
May 16, 2008

too mny questions

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




mindphlux posted:

if you don't make it to wales, make sure you get up in the mountains in scotland - again some of the prettiest, most unique scenery I've ever seen.

Wales and Scotland really do have some of the scenery and food highlights. If you make it to Edinburgh (I recommend it) then give me a shout and I can point you to some good places to eat.

dino.
Mar 28, 2010

Yip Yip, bitch.

mediaphage posted:

Compared to the UK, I can't believe that the car will be a worry.

It's mainly a question of the city's layout, Meep. Jacksonville is unusually sprawling and huge. To get your errands done, you're frequently covering vast distances for basics. It's really obnoxious. Most major cities are laid out in such a way that your major "poo poo to get done" is kind of clustered in one area. You can sort your poo poo out fairly quickly. Even in the more backwater towns in England or Scotland, there is some kind of reasonable logic to the layout of the town. Jax doesn't know what the meaning of sensible is. Things are scattered all across the city in seemingly random places.

EDIT: Huh. No wonder. Outside of Alaska, Jacksonville is the largest city (by area) in the USA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_area

Seriously, you don't realise how much of a hulking brute that city is until you've had to live, work, and socialise there.

dino. fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Nov 14, 2012

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

dino. posted:

It's mainly a question of the city's layout, Meep. Jacksonville is unusually sprawling and huge. To get your errands done, you're frequently covering vast distances for basics. It's really obnoxious.

Huh. No wonder. Outside of Alaska, Jacksonville is the largest city (by area) in the USA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_area

Seriously, you don't realise how much of a hulking brute that city is until you've had to live, work, and socialise there.

That's not what I mean at all. I'm talking relative costs of a car in Florida vs the UK. Cars are more expensive there, insurance is a lot more expensive there, and gas is more expensive there.

dino.
Mar 28, 2010

Yip Yip, bitch.

mediaphage posted:

That's not what I mean at all. I'm talking relative costs of a car in Florida vs the UK.
Ooooo, fair enough. Yeah, now that you mention it, petrol is way more expensive outside the USA, eh?

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




dino. posted:

Ooooo, fair enough. Yeah, now that you mention it, petrol is way more expensive outside the USA, eh?

Our petrol is roughly $7.85 a gallon. That's why euro cars tend to be a lot more efficiently than US ones as it's a good selling point.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Aramoro posted:

Our petrol is roughly $7.85 a gallon. That's why euro cars tend to be a lot more efficiently than US ones as it's a good selling point.

Sort of. Diesel engine cars there can be a lot more efficient, at least in terms of getting mileage per amount of fuel consumed (diesel itself contains more energy (at least in terms of volumetric density) than gasoline). Diesel in the States has had some issues, though, in terms of regulation and such (it's taxed higher than gas, iirc), some of which have kept cars with diesel engines down, aside from big trucks. Also, British MPG is about 20% higher than American MPG, I think, so that accounts for some of the discrepancies when that measurement is used. And Europeans in general prefer small cars, which helps.

Still, though, it's true that on the whole, European cars are more fuel efficient. Outside of these small turbodiesels, though, I bet that number is generally a lot closer today (our non-hybrid Focus hatch scored 40MPG on a recent road trip).

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...

Its funny but are the kind of people that eat at a place like that in Times Square going to give a poo poo about some snarky review or even the quality of food?

Dumb tourist trap for dumb tourists. They get what they deserve.

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


This one's (mostly) for you, dino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa3eC02delM

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


dino. posted:

Seriously, you don't realise how much of a hulking brute that city is until you've had to live, work, and socialise there.

Shopping-wise, does the city not have internet shopping? I hardly do any shopping in person these days. We're looking to live in San Marco and get the bus and cycle everywhere... That may be a pipe-dream!

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!
Is that captain picard narrating?

Happy Hat
Aug 11, 2008

He just wants someone to shake his corks, is that too much to ask??
Happy about the proliferation of chicken cheese...

Wahad
May 19, 2011

There is no escape.

Yawgmoth posted:

Is that captain picard narrating?

Even if it turns out not to be, I'm going to pretend it is.

7 Bowls of Wrath
Mar 30, 2007
Thats so metal.

some pretty funny twitter stuff making fun of this out and about with faux Guy food offerings.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
So in about 3 days we will be moved into the hippy farmhouse I mentioned before. Very excited.

The woman and I are using this move as a chance to kinda reset some of the ways we live our lives and one of the things is to stop buying meat unless we know where it comes from. We have been doing this for the most part for a few years now but the temptation of cheap meat does sometimes lure us back. We are fortunate to live somewhere where this is not going to be too hard, there are some good grocery stores around and a few farmers markets. I also suspect our new landlords can point us to somewhere we can buy half pigs and lambs and I have a small upright freezer we can use to store stuff.

My main concern at this point is deli meats. I am a great lover of sandwiches and have no idea where to find "good" deli meats. The Whole Foods near us doesn't have much and what they have is pretty bland, crappy stuff. I know I can drive to some places I found in southern PA but I am not sure the Amish are to be trusted and am also not sure how well like shaved ham is going to freeze.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
Find good deli meats by getting a slicer. Then you can slice roasts and hams all day long and have really great stuff to eat. This is the best way.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

You're just going to have to start buying your prosciutto by the side.

M42
Nov 12, 2012


I expect lots of pictures.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
I was afraid "get a slicer" would be the answer. A friend had one and I found it to be a huge pain to clean and was in constant fear of taking part of my hand off. Maybe I can find a butcher that makes their own but I am not going to hold my breath.

I am also trying to convince the woman that we should get a small kegarator to reduce the number of beer cans we have to deal with. Having to drive all of your trash and recycling 1.5 miles out to the main road is going to be a pain I bet. Fortunately landlady told us that we can give her pigs any and all food scraps so hopefully our trash will not be too stinky.

I really would like to have a small draft set up, it seems like more beers are being sold in 5g kegs these days. That is about the perfect size and cost. Now if I can just get someone to sell me wine by the keg we will be all set.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

bunnielab posted:

I was afraid "get a slicer" would be the answer. A friend had one and I found it to be a huge pain to clean and was in constant fear of taking part of my hand off. Maybe I can find a butcher that makes their own but I am not going to hold my breath.

I am also trying to convince the woman that we should get a small kegarator to reduce the number of beer cans we have to deal with. Having to drive all of your trash and recycling 1.5 miles out to the main road is going to be a pain I bet. Fortunately landlady told us that we can give her pigs any and all food scraps so hopefully our trash will not be too stinky.

I really would like to have a small draft set up, it seems like more beers are being sold in 5g kegs these days. That is about the perfect size and cost. Now if I can just get someone to sell me wine by the keg we will be all set.

Brew your own!

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

mediaphage posted:

Brew your own!

Wiggles transition: 37% complete.

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

bunnielab posted:

I was afraid "get a slicer" would be the answer. A friend had one and I found it to be a huge pain to clean and was in constant fear of taking part of my hand off. Maybe I can find a butcher that makes their own but I am not going to hold my breath.


If you're really that paranoid about using a slicer, just get a chainmail glove to go with it.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

bunnielab posted:

was in constant fear of taking part of my hand off

That's not the cowboy way.

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


Surely you keep slicing until you don't feel safe, then eat the remainder? Preferably while chuckling triumphantly, happy in the knowledge that you are eating surreptitious meat.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

Mr. Wiggles posted:

Find good deli meats by getting a slicer. Then you can slice roasts and hams all day long and have really great stuff to eat. This is the best way.
Or just a sharp knife and don't fret over not having identical slices. When I'm making a sandwich out of leftovers I actually like that everything isn't in perfect little deli slices.

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

Is there such thing as an affordable deli slicer for the home cook?

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

GrAviTy84 posted:

Is there such thing as an affordable deli slicer for the home cook?

Find a failing restaurant?

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.

GrAviTy84 posted:

Is there such thing as an affordable deli slicer for the home cook?

http://www.amazon.com/EdgeCraft-610-Choice-Premium-Electric/dp/B0002AKCOC/ref=pd_sim_sbs_k_4

I'd call $120 affordable, but you can find decent commercial models ~2-400 at restaurant liquidations, maybe even less.

e: it won't be a hobart or anything like that though, even used those things are ~$3k.

Just ordered a new 3qt robot coupe for work. 1800bux. Equipment budgets are awesome!

Chef De Cuisinart fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Nov 14, 2012

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

SubG posted:

Or just a sharp knife and don't fret over not having identical slices. When I'm making a sandwich out of leftovers I actually like that everything isn't in perfect little deli slices.

Yeah, if I am cutting up leftovers sure, but sometimes I want paper thin ham, turnkey and roast beef. I guess people who are into decent meats are not really into eating huge dagwoods.

And even if I did brew my own beer I would keg rather then bottle it. My friend who brews started doing this and it seems so much better and easier then dicking around with cleaning and sterilizing bottles.

Toast
Dec 7, 2002

GoonsWithSpoons.com :chef:Generalissimo:chef:
Plenty of the cheaper slicers work perfectly fine unless you're somehow using it every day.

Wroughtirony
May 14, 2007



Chef De Cuisinart posted:

If you're really that paranoid about using a slicer, just get a chainmail glove to go with it.


You should only use chainmail/kevlar when the slicer is turned off and you're cleaning it. Gloves can get caught in the spinning blade and the resulting injury is much more gruesome than it would be otherwise.

I know they're scary, but if you're using the slicer correctly your hands never go near the blade.


Kegerators only ever result in alcoholism, diabetes and loneliness.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

bunnielab posted:

Yeah, if I am cutting up leftovers sure, but sometimes I want paper thin ham, turnkey and roast beef. I guess people who are into decent meats are not really into eating huge dagwoods.
Yeah that explains it I'm not into decent meats good call.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Wroughtirony posted:

Kegerators only ever result in alcoholism, diabetes and loneliness.
I got all of those without getting the kegerator. I feel slighted!

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

SubG posted:

Yeah that explains it I'm not into decent meats good call.

What? I was referring to the seeming lack of high quality, ethically sourced deli meats and was humorously suggesting that maybe the reason for this was a lack of dagwood love among the decent meat market segment.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

Wroughtirony posted:

I know they're scary, but if you're using the slicer correctly your hands never go near the blade.

Yeah, same thing with table saws but I know a whole lot of nine-fingered carpenters.


Wroughtirony posted:

Kegerators only ever result in alcoholism, diabetes and loneliness.

Yes but the money and trash trips I will save! Also the beer styles I like the most really are better on draft anyway.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

bunnielab posted:

What? I was referring to the seeming lack of high quality, ethically sourced deli meats and was humorously suggesting that maybe the reason for this was a lack of dagwood love among the decent meat market segment.
Eh, I thought you were being snarky because I was arguing against getting a deli slicer. I see now that the rear end in a top hat is me. I'm comfortable with this.

I blame creeping chickencheesism.

Toast
Dec 7, 2002

GoonsWithSpoons.com :chef:Generalissimo:chef:
Soup's on!
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3517430

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NosmoKing
Nov 12, 2004

I have a rifle and a frying pan and I know how to use them

SubG posted:

Or just a sharp knife and don't fret over not having identical slices. When I'm making a sandwich out of leftovers I actually like that everything isn't in perfect little deli slices.

Knives are nice, but I like several varieties of lunch meats shaved. I especially like my roast beef to be very thin and piled high. Must be all the beef on weck I've eaten.

Slicers aren't that scary, but the non-commercial home use ones tend to be very disappointing. I lucked into an ancient Hobart deli slicer when a local restaurant closed and they were selling off the assets at auction. New, they are too expensive to consider. Cheap low volume refurb units start at $1,500 and they skyrocket from there.

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