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having a black dude as the main character in a movie with themes of isolation & class in american society could be cool, but holy poo poo that trailer looks horrible. And this is coming from someone that really liked the TCM remake and its sequel. Too bad platinum dunes didn't get the rights to this one
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I'm kinda glad I did not like the TCM remake so I can just file this as another in a long line of bad Texas Chainsaw Massacre sequels. edit: also, is that dude even the main character? The clip really tells us nothing. He could get immediately killed right after that.
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Nov 16, 2012 06:18
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Soylent Green posted:That felt like what you would get if you asked someone who'd never seen TCSM, but claimed that they had, to do a remake. America, and the rest of the western world to a lesser extent, has really weird views on the relative severity of varying social taboos.
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Nov 16, 2012 06:23
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You just can't swear in a trailer, guys. She probably shouts "Fffffffucker" really loudly in the actual movie.
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Nov 16, 2012 06:26
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:I'm kinda glad I did not like the TCM remake so I can just file this as another in a long line of bad Texas Chainsaw Massacre sequels. The first TCM movie is the only good one.  Strontosaurus posted:You just can't swear in a trailer, guys. She probably shouts "Fffffffucker" really loudly in the actual movie. That doesn't make it right.
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Nov 16, 2012 06:28
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Coffee And Pie posted:The first TCM movie is the only good one. This is how I've felt for years, except I'm in the process of reading Men, Women and Chainsaws: Gender in the American Horror Film by Carol Clover and it made me really feel like I owe TCM2 a reevaluation.
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Nov 16, 2012 06:34
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Am I wrong in thinking that if you take "massacre" out of the title you're just naming a movie after a basic power tool? So dumb.
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Nov 16, 2012 14:18
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Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 is brilliant.
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Nov 16, 2012 15:26
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I saw TCM3D preview and it is not something I plan on seeing (Or paying to see) but it still looked better than The Collection. The grinder thingee (I dunno it looked like some farm tool) in the club made me laugh though. I still have not seen the first TCM. Or any of them really.
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Nov 16, 2012 15:27
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Pendergast posted:I saw TCM3D preview and it is not something I plan on seeing (Or paying to see) but it still looked better than The Collection. The grinder thingee (I dunno it looked like some farm tool) in the club made me laugh though. Watch the original.
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Nov 16, 2012 15:54
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Pendergast posted:I saw TCM3D preview and it is not something I plan on seeing (Or paying to see) but it still looked better than The Collection. The grinder thingee (I dunno it looked like some farm tool) in the club made me laugh though. Get out of this thread!:P
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Nov 16, 2012 16:02
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Danger posted:Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 is brilliant. Eh, it tries really hard to do something, but didn't quite reach it. The Devils Rejects (which ripped it off, just like House of 1000 ripped of the first) is a better followup to the original TCM than TCM2, with pretty much the same basic point. I also liked the remake - it didn't live up to the original, but was still an entertaining horror film, and better than any of the sequels (and most horror of the 2000s in general). This 3D remake - thing, is...I have no idea.
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Nov 16, 2012 16:40
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Darko posted:Eh, it tries really hard to do something, but didn't quite reach it. The Devils Rejects (which ripped it off, just like House of 1000 ripped of the first) is a better followup to the original TCM than TCM2, with pretty much the same basic point Rob Zombie's entire film career is arguably an exercise in him wanting to remake TCM2. TCM2 is a great movie, not nearly as good as the original, but it's pure 80s horror craziness.
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Nov 16, 2012 16:59
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Darko posted:Eh, it tries really hard to do something, but didn't quite reach it. The Devils Rejects (which ripped it off, just like House of 1000 ripped of the first) is a better followup to the original TCM than TCM2, with pretty much the same basic point. While I love TCM2, I never really thought of The Devil's Rejects as a sequel to TCM and it totally is.
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Nov 16, 2012 17:14
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Slasherfan posted:Get out of this thread!:P Slasherfan and I may not see eye to eye on much but you really need to hand in your badge if you haven't seen Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
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Nov 16, 2012 17:18
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:While I love TCM2, I never really thought of The Devil's Rejects as a sequel to TCM and it totally is. It's more of a remake, but yeah.
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Nov 16, 2012 17:32
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It's really neither a remake or a sequel but just another hicksploitation movie. Gotta love that subgenre.
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Nov 16, 2012 17:35
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I like TCM2 because I feel that after TCM, there was nowhere to go but down. Seems like the creators realized that, too, and just threw themselves whole-heartedly into making an awesome, cheesy, 80s horror-comedy. Chop-Top is one of my favorite horror characters of all time.
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Nov 16, 2012 18:52
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The remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre is the best Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Followed, of course, by the sequel to the remake.
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Keanu Grieves posted:The remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre is the best Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Well, it's certainly the best remake of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
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Nov 16, 2012 19:13
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:Well, it's certainly the best remake of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
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Nov 16, 2012 19:20
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Continuing my trend of watching movies I inexplicably never have sat all the way through, finally got around to watching The Thing. Dear god, the defibrillator scene legit made me go "What the gently caress" out loud. Bravo, movie. Bravo.
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Nov 16, 2012 19:34
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Hey man, being the best remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre is nothing to sneeze at. That puts the 2005 remake just ahead of the other two remakes, Leatherface: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre III and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation. Excuse me a moment, I have to go laugh hysterically now.
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Nov 16, 2012 19:35
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DeathChicken posted:Continuing my trend of watching movies I inexplicably never have sat all the way through, finally got around to watching The Thing. Dear god, the defibrillator scene legit made me go "What the gently caress" out loud. Bravo, movie. Bravo. It's still probably the most visceral reaction I have had to a single horror scene. I remember actually yelling out loud when it happened.
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Nov 16, 2012 20:28
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Keanu Grieves posted:The remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre is the best Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Followed, of course, by the sequel to the remake. There is something sudden and real about the first TCM that the remake, and other horror films don't capture. The best example of this is Leatherface's first kill. The guy just walks into the house, a door opens, he's immediately hit on the head with a sledgehammer, twitches realistically, and is dragged away with the door shutting. No overblown scoring or tension buildup - just death, out of nowhere. Fully lit, flat shooting with everything centered - bam, death. Each death is pretty much shot exactly like this - even Leatherface's surprise ambushing of Franklin. I find this far more interesting and frightening than the slow-build, dramatic-tension-strings, that the remake(s) (and most other horror films) use. It makes the film look like you're actually looking in a window of what happened to an unfortunate group of teens as opposed to feeling like you're looking at a well crafted film meant to entertain you. That's why the original TCM is in my top 5 horror films by default. I think the remake is about as good as you can do with making the original a well-crafted entertainment piece, but it's still missing what made the original great. LtKenFrankenstein posted:Hey man, being the best remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre is nothing to sneeze at. That puts the 2005 remake just ahead of the other two remakes, Leatherface: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre III and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation. I'd put the remake sequel in that category as well - it was pretty much the same movie as the first remake, outside of automatically knowing the heroes would die in the end. You had that weird Vietnam sub-plot/text that didn't go anywhere; that was practically the only real difference that mattered.
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DeathChicken posted:Continuing my trend of watching movies I inexplicably never have sat all the way through, finally got around to watching The Thing. Dear god, the defibrillator scene legit made me go "What the gently caress" out loud. Bravo, movie. Bravo. Oh man that was such an amazing scene. It's tense, it's suspenseful, you're worried for the patient and then all that tension turns into an amazing payoff. It was the first scene of the movie that I genuinely screamed at and it just keeps building for the rest of the scene with the head melting off and trying to escape
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Nov 16, 2012 20:47
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Keanu Grieves posted:No, it's the best Texas Chainsaw Massacre. All you loyalists are living in denial. Eh, I have a lot of nostalgia attached to TCM, which might be the main reason it will always be my favorite. I kind of want to marathon through all of them again, seeing as how I have never watched 3, and watched that low-budget documentary about TCM semi-recently as well - the name escapes me but it was on Netflix Instant for a while.
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Nov 17, 2012 01:26
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:Hey man, being the best remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre is nothing to sneeze at. That puts the 2005 remake just ahead of the other two remakes, Leatherface: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre III and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation. Oh come on, TCM 3 is a fine time! It's loving horrible in reality, but I love it and it features Viggo Mortenson somehow ending up in a briefly mind boggling fight with Ken Foree. Texas Chainsaw 3 is one of my all time guilty pleasures. I mean it features the line "I will gently caress YOU IN HELLLLLLL" for God's sake. Oh yeah, the remake of TCM is really silly(while trying to be deadly serious) and so paint by numbers that it really doesn't warrant much attention. Strangely enough, I do find "The Beginning" entry pretty fun just for how stupidly violent it is. The end scene where Leatherface slams the chainsaw through the backseat, into Jordana Brewster and through her chest, causing her to swerve and plow into 2 cops has brought me far too much joy.
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I really enjoyed the remake at the time when it came out but I haven't rewatched it since. However I loving hated the sequel to the remake. That movie was the worst. It is pretty hard to be interested in what is happening to these people when by the very nature of the movie they all must die.
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Glamorama26 posted:Oh come on, TCM 3 is a fine time! It's loving horrible in reality, but I love it and it features Viggo Mortenson somehow ending up in a briefly mind boggling fight with Ken Foree. I actually have to be honest now and admit that I haven't seen TCM3 all the way through, but I'm very willing to believe that its actually better than TCM2003. Interestingly enough, I'm pretty sure TCM3 and TCM The Beginning were both written by horror author David J Schow, who's actually pretty good from the little of his that I've read. Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Nov 17, 2012 |
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:I actually have to be honest now and admit that I haven't seen TCM3 all the way through, but I'm very willing to believe that its actually better than TCM2005. Nope. What were your problems with TCM 2005, anyway? The cinematography was good, the score was appropriate, at least, R. lee Ermy was as interesting a horror villain as we've had recently, the comeuppance was crowd pleasing, the pacing was well paced, and the killings were hard-hitting. Why is it so bad compared to other similar films in its genre?
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Darko posted:Nope. I feel like I've gone through how much I hate that movie on these forums a million times. I'm too lazy to type it all up again but I'm sure I talked about it in this thread at least once before. I guess the quick summary would be "grossly tonally inconsistent." I have, however, come to regard it as a necessary trial run for the Friday the 13th remake, which owns owns owns and strikes the perfect tone pretty much the whole way through. Edit: Found it LtKenFrankenstein posted:I couldn't stand the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake mostly just because I found its visual aesthetic way too glossy, shiny and pretty for the subject matter (I do like that they got Daniel C. Pearl back to do the cinematography, but his work on the original blows it out of the water) and I found its overreliance on mean-spirited gore to be kinda misplaced. Uncle Boogeyman fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Nov 17, 2012 |
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Ermy's performance in a vaccuum is decent. In the context of that film, I think it really takes things off the rails and seems like it's from a totally different movie and not in the good way. I do think we should all just call a truce on Halloween and TCM remake discussion because there is nothing left to be said. Some of us hated em, some of us loved em. Let's get back to what's really important: The films of Linnea Quigley.
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Nov 17, 2012 04:18
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The remake came out in 2003, not 2005.
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Slasherfan posted:The remake came out in 2003, not 2005. That is correct, thank you. I forgot that it was notable at least as being ahead of the curve in terms of both remakes of '70s horror movies and torture porn.
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I got a soft spot for Leatherface: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3 and Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation, the second entirely for Matthew McConaughey who gives an absolutely batshit crazy performance in it.
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Nov 17, 2012 05:14
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Glamorama26 posted:Let's get back to what's really important: The films of Linnea Quigley. I had to look up what she did beyond RotLD, and I'm most surprised to see that John Landis made Innocent Blood and Renny Harlin did Dream Master. Well, thinking about it those actually kind of make sense, I just had no idea. It seems a lot less weird now that I know it was Landis who did this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMTLvL5IPr4
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Linnea's in Night of the Demons and Silent Night, Deadly Night AKA the 2 films I probably put on too much when incredibly drunk on Old Style beer and cheap bourbon. Jesus Christ, looking at her IMDB. Pumpkinhead 2! It is a total insult to horror fans everywhere that she somehow wasn't in a Sleepaway Camp movie as an oversexed female counselor who inevitably gets smashed in the face with a boat oar or something while topless.
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:I feel like I've gone through how much I hate that movie on these forums a million times. I'm too lazy to type it all up again but I'm sure I talked about it in this thread at least once before. I guess the quick summary would be "grossly tonally inconsistent." It's funny - as someone who felt that, on the surface, the Friday remake "got" the point of the older movies (by compressing the base script of 1-3), I felt -that- missed the point more than the Chainsaw remake. I feel like TCM was lightning in a bottle. You can't repeat that "looking into reality" feel, ever, so there's no real reason to bother. On the other hand, the appeal to the Friday films was the mix of the somewhat Italian look, the flat direction, and the weird screeching string Harry Manfredini score. You actually can duplicate most of that now with some slight updates, in my opinion. So I'm slightly more critical of Friday as compared to TCM for that reason (as I said, though, I didn't really mind the Friday remake at all).
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Glamorama26 posted:Oh come on, TCM 3 is a fine time! It's loving horrible in reality, but I love it and it features Viggo Mortenson somehow ending up in a briefly mind boggling fight with Ken Foree. There are a lot of horror films out there that stretch the reality of the situation, which is already strained by the nature of the horror genre itself, but drat this movie and specifically the scene you mention always drive me crazy. Jason Goes to Manhattan has teleporting Jason, and this movie has a hulking man of a killer with a giant loving chainsaw hiding in a small pocket universe in a backseat and able to wield and operate the hardware at ease.
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