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Anyone have any tips on applying the pre-order skin? I never used a screen protector before and I don't' want to mess it up.
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Nov 20, 2012 20:13
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Speaking of that hiimdaisy dub, is there any place to just look at the original comics? The dub is great and all, but I'd just like to see the originals without the editing work, and livejournal is telling me I need an account there. I don't plan on ever using livejournal, so gently caress that. EDIT: Also the link on the page given by a google search leads to a blank album for some reason. gameface fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Nov 20, 2012 |
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Nov 20, 2012 20:17
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Started playing earlier, stuff's already different right out the gate. Took a walk to clear my head after we stopped for gas, got an early look around the southern Shopping District. ... There were two students, a boy and a girl, arguing about her eating his snacks. 
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Nov 20, 2012 20:20
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DrManiac posted:Anyone have any tips on applying the pre-order skin? I never used a screen protector before and I don't' want to mess it up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-84oUL8uqQo Here's a handy video Atlus sent out a while back that shows how to do it. The most important thing to remember is to make sure the unit is clean and free of dust and dirt specks.
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Nov 20, 2012 20:25
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W.T. Fits posted:Started playing earlier, stuff's already different right out the gate. Oh yeah, I saw that. Quite the  moment for past P4 players like myself.
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Nov 20, 2012 20:45
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Dehry posted:It turns out the P4G wallpapers have been online for ages. They're just Jpegs. http://p-atlus.jp/p4g/v/ir5xpJYzDd08/ Thanks for the link! drat these look slick on the Vita's screen.
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Nov 20, 2012 21:59
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:Poor Brosuke Yosuke's homophobia made me hate his character.
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Nov 20, 2012 22:11
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Uuuggggghhh.... I wish I could just set Chie to mute, or something. I've taken to just covering the speakers with my thumbs every time she talks. The change in voice actress made her go from best character to worst character for me. 
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Nov 20, 2012 22:22
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Sigh, I blew the process of putting the cover onto my Vita. 
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gameface posted:Speaking of that hiimdaisy dub, is there any place to just look at the original comics? The dub is great and all, but I'd just like to see the originals without the editing work, and livejournal is telling me I need an account there. I don't plan on ever using livejournal, so gently caress that. Click "Show albums and stories" on the left, and then click "hiimdaisy"; some options will appear.
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Nov 20, 2012 23:01
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Crossposting from the Vita thread to say that Persona 4 is live on the PSN!
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Nov 20, 2012 23:19
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Azure_Horizon posted:Yosuke's homophobia made me hate his character. It wasn't just that, Yosuke was just an rear end in a top hat in general. I get it, the girls made some bad curry, shut up about it already.
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Nov 20, 2012 23:21
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But that's part of what made him entertaining. He was a giant jackass, and then the universe punished him for it.
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Azure_Horizon posted:Yosuke's homophobia made me hate his character.
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Nov 20, 2012 23:25
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Samurai Sanders posted:Unfortunately I think he has the majority opinion in Japan. I liken the situation with homosexuality in Japan to the way it was in the early 80s in the US. Clearly lots of people still think gay sex only happens in public restrooms and that AIDS is a gay only disease, and so on. And I think that sorta ruined the take on Kanji's character that they were going for. It would have been pretty groundbreaking if they made him bisexual. Instead, they made him straight, but confused, and ultimately straight again. There was so much talk about Kanji's character that I was let down by the path that was taken instead.
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Dr Pepper posted:But that's part of what made him entertaining. ...when?
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I doubt it was intentional, but it always felt like Yosuke was overcompensating for his  relationship with the MC. DeathBySpoon posted:Crossposting from the Vita thread to say that Persona 4 is live on the PSN!  Only an incredibly long download away. Also, is anybody making a thread for Golden? I've been keeping myself blind, but if no one else does I'll do some research and make a thread.
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Azure_Horizon posted:And I think that sorta ruined the take on Kanji's character that they were going for. It would have been pretty groundbreaking if they made him bisexual. Instead, they made him straight, but confused, and ultimately straight again. There was so much talk about Kanji's character that I was let down by the path that was taken instead. edit: either that or they believe that homosexuality is a choice and that Kanji eventually chose to be straight, since he found a girl he liked. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Nov 20, 2012 |
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Nov 20, 2012 23:29
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The whole point of the game was that despite people having different tendencies, it was ok to have them. Kanji being made fun of because he was gay shows the exact opposite of that, that keeping it inside was the "right" thing to do. Funny enough, Yosuke is much better about this in the anime, but Kanji himself is worse and Naoto is plain old insulted.Dr Pepper posted:But that's part of what made him entertaining. I don't remember Yosuke getting punished in any real way.
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Azure_Horizon posted:And I think that sorta ruined the take on Kanji's character that they were going for. It would have been pretty groundbreaking if they made him bisexual. Instead, they made him straight, but confused, and ultimately straight again. There was so much talk about Kanji's character that I was let down by the path that was taken instead. I never considered Kanji to be straight. It makes more sense to me for him to swing both ways. After all, his feelings for Naoto don't seem to change when her true gender was revealed. Nessa fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Nov 21, 2012 |
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Nov 20, 2012 23:33
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Nessa posted:I never considered Kanji to be straight. It makes more sense to me for him to swing both ways. Yeah, this is I thought an old and buried discussion--Kanji's sexuality was always meant to be left ambiguous, and it's really up to you to decide what you feel he best is (unless they confirm it in later games). Interesting that everybody dogpiles on Yosuke. He's 16 and acts like it--hating him for that seems a bit harsh, especially since his "homophobia" boils down to three or four cracks at Kanji's expense, and one situation where he's uncomfortable sharing a tent with him (which is also something I think a teenage boy would be hesitant about, especially a sheltered rich-kid like Yosuke.). I feel a little silly defending him, but it seems that there's a bit unfair levels of criticism leveled at him at times. Also Cake Attack's prolly on the right of it, I always felt Yosuke had a bit too strong a broship with the main character. :P
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Honestly, I think his homophobia is over-exaggerated by his detractors. I'm not saying it's not there, but I do think he actually gets a bit better as the year goes by. During the camp out, he was pretty bad, I'll give you that. Though for the record, when it looked like Kanji was going to do something that could get himself into trouble, he made an earnest effort to calm him down and keep him from running off. After Teddie gets a human form, Yosuke lightly teases Kanji, but then drops it after Kanji tells him to knock that poo poo off (more or less). During the school festival, if you choose to sit on the girls' side of the table at the group date cafe and hit on him, he's still squicked out by it... but he also mentions that he's a bit flattered. And while staying at the inn after it's all over, he's able to be completely civil about bathing with and sharing a room with Kanji without any of the "oh please don't violate me in my sleep" crap that he was doing during the camp out. So yeah, I'd say he starts off bad with the homophobia, but he does make an effort to get over it, and he doesn't really give Kanji any more grief about it than he gives other people about the things that get under their skin. Edit: Spoiler tags added at the request of the post below this one. W.T. Fits fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Nov 20, 2012 |
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Hey guys, since P4 Golden just came out and a lot of people are probably playing it for the first time, shouldn't should probably start using spoiler tags for P4?Momomo posted:I don't remember Yosuke getting punished in any real way. Well, Saki DOES bite it in the first hour of the game. Relevant. DeathBySpoon fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Nov 20, 2012 |
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Nov 20, 2012 23:42
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^^^ If I'm not mistaken, he also approves of you not having any porn under your bed, stating that he was right pegging you a man's man. But yeah, he gets a lot of undeserved crap for being pretty much a stupid teenager that runs his mouth too much. Doesn't mean the game isn't lacking a "Shut up, man" option, more often than not. I considered him to be less annoying than Junpei, even though they share the same role, considering he wasn't compromising the whole mission just out of jealousy.
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Azure_Horizon posted:And I think that sorta ruined the take on Kanji's character that they were going for. It would have been pretty groundbreaking if they made him bisexual. Instead, they made him straight, but confused, and ultimately straight again. There was so much talk about Kanji's character that I was let down by the path that was taken instead. Kanji's sexuality is never confirmed in any meaningful way. This is pretty intentionally so. Any argument you can make is specifically coached in such a way that there is a counterargument for it. If you are reading him as straight, that is your own takeaway of intentional ambiguity.
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DeathBySpoon posted:Well, Saki DOES bite it in the first hour of the game. Relevant. I think that's a punishment for Saki.
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Momomo posted:I think that's a punishment for Saki. The punishement part is also the thing about learning that one of the few people that actually seemed to like him in Inaba was just brown-nosing to him and loathing him in his back. But yeah, Yosuke usually get some karmic payback for most of his wrongdoings: the camp has him wasting his night hauling Kanji out of troubles, then getting pushed into freezing water (in which Mooroka puked in), the date cafe is a failure, the pageant has him getting pressganged as well. He never really gets away for free.
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Momomo posted:I don't remember Yosuke getting punished in any real way. Pretty much all the game's comedic violence either happened to Yosuke or is caused by Yosuke and gets dropped on the group he's with.
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Nov 20, 2012 23:58
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Yousuke's introduction is him being trapped in a trashcan and him being kicked directly in the balls. They literally put him in a trashcan in the OP.
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Nov 20, 2012 23:59
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God I remember being put off a bit by Chie's original VA, but the new one just seems to dramatically oversell every word of almost every single line she has which is even worse. Well I got used to it the first time, maybe it'll happen twice.
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I just can't take Chie seriously when I feel like she's about to ask me if I'm infected with Radical-6 or if I've seen her grandpa. drat you, Quark! 
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Nov 21, 2012 00:39
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"Hey MC-kun, have you heard about the witches' curse?"
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Iceclaw posted:The punishement part is also the thing about learning that one of the few people that actually seemed to like him in Inaba was just brown-nosing to him and loathing him in his back. But yeah, Yosuke usually get some karmic payback for most of his wrongdoings: the camp has him wasting his night hauling Kanji out of troubles, then getting pushed into freezing water (in which Mooroka puked in), the date cafe is a failure, the pageant has him getting pressganged as well. He never really gets away for free. I think the thing with Saki is even worse for him since the Shadows show the deepest repressed side of a person. So it's completely possible that Saki actually liked Yosuke, but he'll never know for sure.
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I don't think so, that would mean her true feelings are the exact opposite of what the shadow said. Also, I don't think comic relief really counts as Yosuke getting punished. It doesn't seem like he learned from any of those things.
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Momomo posted:I don't think so, that would mean her true feelings are the exact opposite of what the shadow said. It doesn't have to be the complete opposite. Everyone else who had a Shadow came to to terms that what their other side was saying had some form of truth behind it. A part of Saki did resent Yosuke, but that doesn't mean that's all she felt for him.
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Policenaut posted:I just can't take Chie seriously when I feel like she's about to ask me if I'm infected with Radical-6 or if I've seen her grandpa. drat you, Quark! It's a good thing I played Virtue's Last Reward in japanese only then, I really wish P4:THE GOLDEN had the japanese audio option but it's not bad so far.
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Nov 21, 2012 01:17
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Yosuke and Main not ending up as gay lovers afterward is Yosuke's punishment, he could have had it all.
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Nov 21, 2012 01:23
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Yeah, having a separate thread for newcomers might be a good idea. I think the majority of the people in here have already played it, and while having discussions about things that span the entirety of the game is fun, it seems like it'd be a minefield for people looking for help in the game without any other thread options.
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Momomo posted:I don't think so, that would mean her true feelings are the exact opposite of what the shadow said. It does when that's the same tone he fuckups in, while it is pretty bad that the homophobia is treated as a joke, it makes sense considering he doesn't do these things not out of spite.
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